> If they were fighting for a Palestinian state they would have collaborated on the Oslo accord which was leading there. Or they would have waited for the state to form and then taken over that state.

Hamas took over Gaza in 2007. Osolo accords was in 1993. That's 20 years of Israel not doing anything to actually give Palestinians a state after they sign the accords. Not only that but literally they build many settlements inside the Palestinian territories, and it is still expanding until today [1] and recently as this year they expand new settlements [2] . Not to mention the violence and terror that the armed settlers are spreading (i.e [[3] [4]).

> They want the entire country. Not a separate state of their own. They know they can't get to their goal with a direct conflict against a far superior fighting force, so they use this approach.

They believe the entire land is theirs and there is an argument that they were stolen from them. We can argue about that, but there are people in Israel who also think that this is their entire land (And it is a fact that the vast majority of Israeli people came from other places). Also, they displaced Arab population and keep doing that to expand settlements. But lets pass this point and move to another important thing.

> I didn't say that. I said the Hamas is hoping for that or at least something they can present as war crimes. It's actually pretty easy to incite violence and rage. Just burning families with their babies alive pretty much does that to people.

Aren't we past the point of explaining that burning people and beheading people are false claims that even Biden spread? [5]
But ironically, this is actually happened to Palestinian family by Israeli settlers in west bank in 2015 [6] and here is another one [7] . Which city in Israel would you suggest gets flattened as a price of that? (Rhetorical question, if that is not obvious enough)

> Sane? Have you seen the pictures and read the stories of what they did?

I have seen a lot of fake photos and claims. I'm not saying that there were no civilians in Israeli side were killed, and I'm against that. But the Israeli war crime and carpet bombing of Gaza where hundreds of children are dead and thousands are killed is much worse, and what's crazy is that the world is letting this continue on a daily basis.

> They are now surrounded by a lot of soldiers who read these things and are furious. That's no excuse for war crimes but all it takes are a few soldiers who go a bit too far.

Can't we say the same things about Palestinian fighters. Well their people are killed, homes takes and bombed for decades. Can this logic extend to them, and some of them will not act according to what should happen. Or it is just easy to just extend that to all people. Isn't that what happened with every resistance movement in the world?

Again, to be clear, I'm against these actions. And even don't like Hamas for many reasons. But I just try to follow your logic. If you consider actions are terror. Apply these criteria to all sides. Don't say "takes are a few soldiers who go a bit too far" to describe war crimes by one side.

> There's justified grievances to have against Israel (especially the current administration which is downright criminal), but this should be a footnote after the blame on the Hamas.

A footnote, why? Because Arab blood is much cheaper for you than Israeli one? Specially that civilian's death toll is much higher on their side.

That's a barbaric statement.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement

[2] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/29/world/middleeast/israel-w...

[3]https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israeli-crowds-chant-raci...

[4] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/3/3/israeli-settler-atta...

[5] https://agrdailynews.com/2023/10/12/white-house-backtracks-o...

[6] https://imemc.org/article/israeli-court-rules-to-dismiss-con...