You shouldn't use moral arguments because there is no dispute there. Wat in general and extrajudicial killings are immoral yet that's how civilizations exist. The US at least attempts to avoid war and conflict by using its fear as a deterrent, which is why i commenter about the world fearing the US.

> So how about repairing the US reputation, cause you don't like terrorists flying airplanes into buildings? The violence of terrorists attacks is not justified, but it is entirely expected for when a country acts like this.

Again with the "justified". You don't see much terrorism after afghanistan's invasion right? My sticking point there is that the US shouldn't have helped them rebuild. This is a conflict between horrifically violent parties who have no chance of sorting things out diplomatically. The US will never stop supporting israel and abandon an ally, Israel is there to stay, they're not abandoning their historical homeland which is no longer historical because Israel has been a country for almost 80 years now. Violence is all that's left. And wouldn't you prefer violence that involved minimal civilian casualties?

If that means the CIA playing "dirty" decimating one country and leaving them in shambles as a lesson to the rest, is it not worth it? In a world where other countries think the US is nice and docile more civilians die. In a world where countries are terrified at the thought of the US military or IC thinking about them, much less civilians die and suffer.

The violent understand only violence as a language of negotiation.

> Imperialism will always face opposition and struggle

Oh please with that b.s., did the US colonize any arabic country? What was colonized for al-qaeda who were besties with the CIA to do 9/11? You think becoming a coward and abandoning your allies who are surrounded by genocidan enemies will satiate the murderous terrorists.

Do you even undersrand that according to their extremist views, they have no desire to co-exist with you in this world? If they had the power, they would invade the whole world and decapitate all unbelievers. Why do you think ISIS was invading Iraq and Syria? America already pulled out! Their propaganda was to take over the levant and the world.

You think these terrorists are misunderstood freedom fighters! That's not the case.

Their intifada against the US is not because they are oppressed but because people who have the same faith as them are oppressed in palestine. Neither palestinians nor most of Israel's neighbors have an interest in a two state solution. Victory in these terrorists minds is not liberation of palestine but the genocide of jews and christians in the middle east.

They have no interest in accepting their former land has been give away to the jews, not because the jews kicked them out but because their ancestors kept getting invaded by the ottomans then the british. It was not palestinian land that was given away, it was british land. It was as much palestine land then as it is today. Like it or not, this is not imerialism but a country being created as a result if an occupation, much like how america was created after native american land was invaded. Just about every country in the world is a result of one group invading a land that does not belong to them, countries are built on blood and ill-gotten gains. I suggest you cede native american land (if you are american, canadian, australian) before you ask israel to give up their only home.

The palestinian people are oppressed because generations of hatred and raising their kids to dream of murdering their neighboring jews has put them in a corner where they either get oppressed or there is another jewish holocaust.

If they were willing to accept history and move on to negotiate their own free and peaceful country that accepts the right of Israel to exist and if the muslim world as a whole decided to stop dreaming of genocide the palestine would be free.

Put it a bit differently: I would prefer another 9/11 and invading another middle eastern country than not support Israel's right to existence. I don't support their incursions into the westbank or treatment of palestinians in general though. If any of Israel's neighbors could, they would have killed them off. Even Iran taunts israel with a nuclear holocaust all the time.

So I suggest you pick a side, terrorists who kill babies for fun or not so nice Israelis who are willing to negotiate coexistence with their neighbors.

I suggest you think long and hard about the outcomes to civilians and how much pain and suffering results in the side you pick.