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Until we see successful video games/movies/tv shows built using 100% generative art I will remain sceptical that this will happen. What's more likely is that generative AI art will be its own category like digital art, where creative folks will use their creativity to create amazing works of art with the help of generative AI. After all, it takes creativity to know what to generate. You can't ask the AI to make you a whole movie or set of video game levels.
> I mean, maybe you end up integrating splunk or perhaps self-hosting kibana

I think this is the issue. Both Splunk and OpenSearch (even self-hosted OpenSearch) get really pricy as well especially with large volumes of log data. Cloudwatch can also get ludicrously expensive. They charge something like $0.50 per GB (!) and another $0.03 per GB to store. I've seen situations at a previous employer where someone accidentally deployed a lambda function with debug logging and ran up a few thousand $$ in Cloudwatch bills overnight.

You should look at Coralogix (disclaimer: I work there). We've built a platform that allows you to store your observability data in S3 and query it through our infrastructure. It can be dramatically more cost-effective than other providers in this space.
> I have no love towards FB/Zucky boi, but the move to make LLAMA free is a good one.

I think that might be a bit "enemy of my enemy". Remember "commoditize your complement"? Not that I'm averse to the tech giants forcing each other into a race to the bottom.
How do we access your brain's API for fractions of a cent? I've got $100 ready to go!
People also forget it was Labour who introduced the "Tell us your password or go to prison" law.
So

* using living artists work to train models = good

* generating living artists work using said models = bad

Good ethical consistency from the OpenAI crew
I guess I was waiting for a punchline related to the "boundaries" part.

yes, this kind of error is multiplicative and thus has exponential effect, even though our intuition leans on additive effects. but causality propagates at c, so parts of the box have ~3ns to remain blissfully unaffected.

there's also something to be said for the stiffness (my term) of the system, since even the "chaotic" jointed bars example has relatively few regions of sensitivity in its operating space.
security products have valid reasons, though maybe not _good_. forcing plt and got entries to be bound rather than lazy loaded, forcing certain segments to be read only and hooking a bunch of stuff is neccesary for them, and that can only be done by suspending processes at startup and then injecting and modifying them. its a bandaid to a bad system hence its a valid but maybe not good reason (better to prevent than this cure of theirs..)
I dunno. The value of the type of art that is a "corner stone of modern culture" (i.e. the type of art you see in museums, etc.) doesn't seem to be related to how hard it is to produce.

For example, Flag by Jasper Johns sold for $110M in 2010 [1]. The fact that almost anyone could make something like this (the subject matter is public domain, and the technique is within reach of anyone who has taken an art class) doesn't seem to have diminished its value.

And as for all of the art you see in the everyday world, being able to design it more easily would likely lead to more of it, not less. Instead of seeing the same 20 things that they carry at IKEA over and over, you'd have custom artwork everywhere.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_(painting)

EDIT: Added the last paragraph while you were replying.
For passive investments, it’s partly the Law of Large Numbers at work.

The key to exploiting LLN is to avoid “game over” scenarios. You have to survive and stay in the game in order for LLN to converge.

If let’s say your expectation of winning in the long run is 0.7, you’ll only achieve this if you don’t get wiped out anywhere in the process (if you do your expectation drops to 0 immediately).
I’ve been slowly warming up to this idea, and I’m not sure I’m totally convinced, but I think it does make sense to compare the web development industry to the art industry here.

Have web builders totally replaced developers? No, not at all. It’s definitely cut out the lowest end of the market, but that’s because your local restaurant really doesn’t need more than a squarespace template.

But warping a website builder to do something more complex is complicated. To the point where you need to hire someone trained in using that builder tool. Then that person finds the edges of the customizability of that tool and reaches for just writing HTML/CSS/JS.

I could totally see a similar trajectory here. We’ll have prompt engineers, and they’ll realize sometimes photoshop is just easier to tweak the output, then maybe they’ll realize it’s easier to prompt for components of an image, and composite them manually… and then we’ve reached a point where it’s just a tool that makes art easier.

Though… it still does feel somehow different from web development. Will just have to see how things shake out.
Just shooting from the hip, but if you're logged into multiple accounts simultaneously, try just one. I've found that the u=1 URL query param (or maybe /u/1 path, whatever it is) incrementer to select among active sessions is reasonably persistent with most, but not all, Google apps. Notably, Google Analytics would drop the ball at times, leading me to manually add it back
It's not, he sucks.
Lethal respiratory diseases do exist, but they spread too fast to be as impactful. That's another factor to consider.
What's the average human performance for this task?
Managing Background Processes with Homebrew
While the sun does not shine at night in California, the energy usage of HVACs (the top consumer in the average house) is also about ¼ the need of in the daytime.

Hot water usage (2nd highest amp draw) is also reduced shortly after sunset.

Laundry dryers (3rd highest amp draw) is also typically reduced during the night.
Yeah if we overdose in lsd often the two are indeed equally capable in memorising data and mixing it together.
We currently use Spacy Large English Core Model, we've experimented w/ others. We can store our meta data in many of the DBs supported by Django. We have a number of deployments on Postgres. We can also support Searching SQL DBs Using a flexible query template.
There are single receptacles capable of both 120 and 240V. They're called NEMA 14. NEMA 14-20 technically exists, which would give you multi use 120V or 240V 20 amp outlets. The problem is nobody uses them, as this is non-standard and nothing uses the plug besides industrial stuff.

Unless there's a truly useful application, I doubt it'll see wide use in US. Sure, 240V is nice, but there just isn't that magic thing missing from 1800W appliances today. Being able to boil water a little bit faster is not worth rewiring every house and changing standards around the country.
So many pop ups until I had to close the page.
True, but we're talking about persisting Java objects, not relational data or an approximation of human knowledge or whatever. This is a narrower problem space, and one solution is treating the storage layer as a KV store, ignoring the problem of translating queries to SQL or mapping classes to DDL. This library is deliberately throwing away the relational model and its power, and the README acknowledges such.
This kind of argument is always absurd to me because it doesn’t matter if it learns like a human or not, it’s still not a human.

(I would also argue that it learns and generates images in ways that are non-human, just based on speed and scale alone)
even though i admot this guy is genious level, its not really good to rely on one persons judgement for anything. thats a bad practice in general. zerotrust and all :)
$100 grants you continuous access to my higher-level functions for about half an hour. Inquire within!
So the law says that a painter can't steal copyrighted images, but a programmer can. Maybe the law has some catching up to do.
There can only be x amount of dollar that can return y return.
There's probably no point in terms of a watermark's goals.

Additionally, since OpenAI is asserting no rights over the image, a watermark would be inappropriate.
Have you… lived in those kind of places? One side of my family’s from not even that bad of one, and there are tons of the ultra-poor. They’re the ones living in a house with a blue tarp on part of the roof, three broken cars in the yard, overgrown weeds right up to the foundation, et c. The land’s owned by some family member (all three crappy acres are worth $2,000 total—the house is worth negative dollars—so it’s not like they’re giving up a fortune to let them stay there) or is an illegal rental. They often have one or two even-worse-off buddies living with them. Income and hand-me-downs (clothes, anppliances, old cars they’ll break and not be able to repair within a year which’ll join the front yard scrap pile) are from family and churches. Income, if any, is government assistance (lots of vets) and odd jobs. They have a bunch of health problems and are probably addicted to something. If they don’t have family to get them to the hospital 90 minutes away, they do without. They die decades younger than they might.

These are my people, and it gets worse than that. Rural America is shockingly poor. The cost of living’s low because nobody there can afford to pay more, and because they have no local public services to speak of.

[edit] the reason, specifically, there aren’t more homeless those places isn’t because it’s better, but because 1) nobody moves in, so 100% of people have family ties of some kind, at least some background that gets them access to a hovel or something, and 2) if you’re actually homeless there, you get picked up and shipped somewhere they can actually serve homeless people (or just go to prison), or you die.
Artists would have to find creative ways to separate themselves from AI-generated art.

Also, it would be nice if there was something akin to a watermark that was perhaps invisible but upon inspection using a certain tool will reveal if it was created using the Generative AI model (similar to how real currency can be inspected and differentiated from fake currency notes)
What's interesting about seeing these conversations on Hacker News is that 10 minutes ago, our profession was putting thousands out of work on a daily basis without even a second thought.

Ever stopped at one of those self-checkout registers at the grocery store that didn't exist in your childhood and wondered what happened to the cashier who used to be there?

A lot of people mumble something about "jobs not worth doing", but I'm not sure if web front-end development (how many unique, differentiated, worthwhile websites exist? how much of that code is glue and boilerplate, and people solving the same problem in parallel every day?) fares much better in that gauntlet.

Software developers right now are, for the first time in their lives, experiencing a little backlash to their privilege -- for hundreds of millions, they've been riding that rollercoaster all their lives.
Problem is flipping the coin 20 times. I don’t think even 1 in 100 million would do that.
Artist don't create art to make a living, but to experience the joy of creation.

Making a living from art is something that the majority of artists even before GenAI did not reach.

I agree that it will change things a lot, but fearing the "exctinction of art" is a bit dramatic IMO.
Not yet, but from the news I've heard of Version 6, that is the plan. They're working on a big website update and at first they will allow the use of both, and over time I think the plan is to build new features for the website UI only. That's because they're running into major limitations with Discord when it comes to more advanced stuff like region painting and so on.
The ability to upload to YT is at YouTube's own discretion and thus their terms are imposed on that content. YouTube doesn't have to host his stuff if they don't want to, nor do they have to give them any money. Brand has the legal right to switch to a competing video platform.
Do you have any experience of cancer staging or medical imaging? It certainly sounds like you don't.
> Blaming it on criminal ties simply because the ethnicity of the victim?
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> But not every Sikh is a terrorist or criminal

Now you’re just making things up. Where in my comment did I say that every Sikh is a terrorist or criminal or I’m blaming criminal ties due to his ethnicity? Please point me to that.

I was referring to him being a Khalistani and I did point you to the fact that Khalistanis have ties with organized crime. There’s shit ton of evidence related to that.

For the record, I’m sure I know more Sikhs than you, have since childhood and none of them is a Khalistani nor a criminal.
>Maybe in your circle, but that's certainly not the case generally.

Great, now that's solved, let's agree on a definition of 'punk' next
Okay, but how does it handles indexing and query. Suppose we have a large database, what are the performance tradeoffs ? First you will do an SQL search to load data into Swirl ? Or is there something different?
>you can do that with 0 artists

you could do that with zero artists for decades because it's already fully commoditized. Everyone who is cheap already just buys a subscription to some gigantic vault of stock imagery owned by some digital rights holder for pennies.

the mechanical reproduction of art did not start in 2020
> Pretty sure big tech companies have their own people in power positions in the states they operate from.

Not really necessary when service providers have such massive ability to dictate the contract you sign to use the service.
It's a shame it's proprietary, but there's a neat service[1] that's been around for over a decade that reverse engineered System Link and similar protocols to make them Internet-enabled.

[1]: https://www.teamxlink.co.uk/
This is what people who court the far-right don't realise. Far-right politics are a means to an end — that end being naked power. You will get chewed up and spat out if you do something they don't like. The silver lining is that a far-right regime is never sustainable in the long run as a result, but there is a lot of collateral damage along the way.
i am not shocked, but its hacky like comments suggested. ultimately done because the lack of a better alternative. id still follow chens advice even though its hacky.
Wow, this looks interesting. It will take a little while to digest, but makes me really excited for the future of Elixir. As a professional Elixir developer for several years, static types are about the only thing I occasionally miss, and dialyzer just doesn't quite hit the mark for me. I love how it looks like this will let you gradually type an existing codebase. Maybe just a small detail they haven't decided on yet, but I hope there's a "strict" mode for new codebases.

edit: A thought I just had. If they're developing a novel type system, does that have implications for language server integration? I really appreciate how powerful types can make my VSCode.
For imbalanced data, even accurate system will give tons of false positives. Unless you are willing to tolerate false negatives, having large false positive rate is almost inevitable. Rare disease testing is a popular example, but this one is a good instance to I think.

Let's say there are 10 million people linked to terrorism in the world and the system is correct 95% of times. Then out of 20000 people, 20 are positives, and 19 will be stopped; out of 19980 negatives, 999 will be stopped.

Compared to disease testing you may argue that FP is more harmful, but that's a different question. The point is that even very non-random system will be dominated by FP.

Edit: in particular, if they stop truly random people and 500 of them are linked to terrorism that implies that 20% of all people passing there are terrorists.
It becomes all about the artist; something that can not be replicated. What the art says about artist, what the artist intended, and the mere fact that a specific artist created it. Photography played a part in engendering this transition to "modern art" in the last century.
An EV Mechanic Shortage Is Looming, but Nobody Knows When It’s Coming
Car Talk is such a legend. RIP Tom, and may Ray enjoy his retirement.
The fruit hung lower back then but now we have taller ladders. We've learned a lot since the 1960s.

That blog entry is interesting but it's based on an article Malcom Gladwell wrote about DeVita's book; the author says he hadn't read the book himself. It does make some good points. I feel there ought to be a middle ground, where physicians are professionally expected to base decisions on good science (rather than "our patients would vomit on the way home if we gave them the effective dose"), but also we don't have government officials prohibiting terminal patients from getting treatments that oncologists think could help them.
Interesting idea, i love it!

If you want to self-host, check out comfyui. It is a breeze to install, and offers an api for headless interactions. On my 5 year old i7 NUC it produces a 1024x1024 image (cpu only! no gpu needed) in around 20 mins using the SDXL model.
I have been creating a large number of Midjourney images for a project recently, and it’s made me remember/realize something that I think the AI Art doomsayers seem to not understand: the importance of curation.

A quick glance at /r/Midjourney or even the images featured in DALLE link above shows how boring the “default result” is when using a generator. While it may be easier to create images, you still need some artistic sense and skills to figure out which ones are appealing. In the bigger picture I think this basically means that illustration-type art will become more of a curatorial activity, in which being able to filter through masses of images becomes the predominant skill needed.
Okay, just asked a question in the same thread. About postgres.
Well OpenAI is consitent in that it consistently tries to monetise other people's work without paying for it and in doing so it leverages the gullibility of the masses to defend their actions. Clever.
Some “artists” I know are scraping by on work that could be eaten by generative AI. Even if they don’t self identify as “illustrators”.
For critical devices you could use red outlets.
Different colored outlets are scary.
Bard's integration with Gmail is extremely basic -- it's just using regular Gmail search to include a few relevant emails in its prompt and then trying to answer your question. There's no AI on the email side.

We launched a much more capable Gmail + AI assistant this morning here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37585990#37586627

We're using embeddings + vector DB + x-encoder + GPT4 to deliver a much smarter & capable assistant.
Now the only thing missing is JSX
Never felt so far removed from being an actual artist ...
Very excited to try the text fix feature!

Anyone have any tips on getting beta access to these models earlier? I've been in GPT3 beta since June 2021, and I was only ever able to get Codex early.
I tend to associate the tweaks on the site with Tampermonkey and not uBlock Origin.
HN motivates what I write on a blog especially if the topic comes up a lot and for reasons of being lazy I don't want to make a really long wordy comment I can just link to my poorly worded blog. This is useful if I want to revise my comment as one can not edit comments here after a couple hours thus making my low-caffeine typos immutable. I don't link my awful blog posts anywhere else though, just HN and only in response to threads/comments. And in my profile as with many others here.
I think you're defining a very particular type of 'artists', if you broaden the definition then think of graphic designers or concept artists, now thier job has been completely automated.
Indeed. A timing problem was my first thought when I read the title which was obviously provocative, maybe that's because I deal with timing problems often so I got lucky there, but I rejected the idea, thinking the user would have noticed it too. Nope.

I used to do some help desk as part of my dev job, and from my experience, users easily assign any random fact as the source of the problem. Often things like "correlation is causation" or *post hoc ergo propter hoc" (after that, therefore because of that). Good as heuristics, but bad when they are substitutes for reasoning.

Users cannot diagnose at all because they have no idea of how the thing they are using works (which often normal - we are the engineers, they are the users) (in this regard, users that think they know "that stuff" are among the most difficult to deal with). One cannot properly diagnose something one doesn't understand well.
I agree. I'm working with code that uses 'verbose "message"' for level 1 verbosity logs and 'trace "message"' for level 2 verbosity. Makes sense in its world, but it's not the same meaning as how cloud-devops-observability culture uses those words.
The automation of tractors over manual plowing didn’t replace the Oxen, but the people driving them.

Farm automation allowed a single man to plow many fields in the time one field would have taken.

Automation allows one person to accomplish more with less.

Tractors didn’t reduce the demand for product, but increased it many fold.

Automation increases demand; every time.
Every now and then a ceo will do somethings like this. If this is true idk. Good for PR.
Right, I like to joke that pdf is where data goes to die. But management loves them, so we continue making them.

As clarification, once the data goes in to a pdf it is a pain to get out again for further processing. Not impossible, but the format is clearly designed to put shapes on paper. anything more and you have to fight for it.
I have paintings hanging in my house produced by artists I personally know. If anything, I think ubiquitous, throw away and infinitely reproducible digital art makes my paintings even more special to me (although none are worth all that much to start with).
> Aren't they afraid some court might, at some point, force them to pay each artist back a fee for each generated image?

I'd say they're banking on the horse having bolted by the time such a thing might happen (i.e. courts would need to force 1000s of very large powerful companies to pay millions of people - an insurmountable legal effort).
Sure. a 4-day work week, 40% raise, and an agreement the company won't outsource? Sounds like extortion to me.
I've honestly got no idea what that means. Can you elaborate?
I would give my left arm to be using internet forums again. Online communities adopting Discord and Slack was such a terrible move in hindsight.

Definitely rooting for this to take off.
For those only interested in the definition of the new nonsense word:

> "content flippening” — an event horizon when the majority of content you choose to consume is primarily AI generated/augmented rather than primarily human/manually produced

I hope it isn't contagious... the word, that is.

The proper word is threshold.
What I think could be amazing about ChatGPT integration is (holding my breath…) the ability to iterate and tweak images until they’re right, like you can with text with ChatGPT.

Currently with Midjourney/SD you sometimes get an amazing image, sometimes not. It feels like a casino. SD you can mask and try again but it’s fiddly and time consuming.

But if you could say ‘that image is great but I wanted there to be just one monkey, and can you make the sky green’ and have it take the original image modify it. Then that is a frikkin game changer and everyone else is dust.

This _probably_ isn’t the way it’s going to work. But I hope it is!
He already said that he isn't intending that at all and is just pointing out that an extradition probably wouldn't pan out.
I didn't read the story though. I have categorically not read any stories about him ever. Yet still 'celebs' infect our lives
Same. You learn something new every day, eh?