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I hate my iPhone 3GS, because after my PC died I couldn't sync it any more without losing my media, couldn't update the OS because I had jailbroken it (never installed pirated apps either), and because the battery life is horrible on 3G - it heats up, drops a few percentage points in a few minutes, and I often have to power off the phone.

I told myself I was running off to Android where I wouldn't have to deal with a walled garden any more, so I'm kind of like the reverse of you - going to get a non-iPhone after my bad experience with Apple.

What I'd like to know is whether Android is still worth going to. Will I be able to sync without worries, install apps as I like, and root the device easily? I keep seeing mention of CyanogenMod and I don't know if that's what I'll have to install to get the full control I want. Is installing CM what rooting (mostly) involves?

I've been meaning to pick up the Galaxy Nexus, but bad press about its camera and uncertainties about the degree of freedom it allows have been keeping me back. I was even considering getting a Galaxy S II and installing ICS. I appreciate any advice from the Android users among you.
But I would give at least 10:1 odds
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have more people alive in 20 years, for example.

There are 2 problems with this statement:

(1) many people sick with cancer or malaria are going to die anyway and bringing a little happiness into their lives is worth the trouble, even if those people won't count towards your "alive" statistics.

"Making the world a better place" is not necessarily about keeping people alive. It's also about literally making the world a nicer place to live in.

(2) When it comes to research, $250.000 is basically the salary of a good researcher or two for a year. That still counts for something, but it's peanuts.
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Doesn't have to be a new OS feature directly. I'd like to run the new Chrome browser but can't. In any case, I'd like to decide "meh" or not for myself.

You're right that most changes have very little impact, so this is largely psychological. It hits in two ways for me: 1) the delay between the product's "release" and when I can get it, 2) the uncertainty of whether an upgrade will even come at all for my phone.
"variety of manufacturers devices with varying feature sets that gives consumers the added benefit of choosing exactly what product suits their specific needs."

Basically the recipe for a disaster.
I think we have yet another example of someone just not getting it.

The OP repeatedly laments the fate of people less technically minded than himself, how hideous the experience must be for them if someone do clued up is having such a terrible time... The fact is that those users to whom he is referring exist in a realm of blissful ignorance.

I wonder what proportion Android users out there even know what ICS is. I'm willing to bet it's a tiny fraction and I'm willing to bet that Google knows that. That's what makes the whole Android story such a cynical one IMO-the platform was (still is to a large degree) touted as the ultimate geek device. Something beautiful that google was goig to give to the techies out there... What it is is a shallow, lowest common denominator.

I had such high hopes for the 'Google phone' of 2006 but I have never owned and Android device and really do not care to.
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I've found the android phone and apple tablet is a good combination.

The ipad is good for things I want comfort for (reading, web-browsing, etc.) and they are reasonably price competitive (assuming you get the wifi only version, not a plan), but the android phone is much more versitile (if sometimes annoying to use) and generally cheaper than a tie-in iphone plan.

Plus then you get to use applications for either OS.
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The interview was focused on just the US and China. I'm not sure you can conclude that Clarke wasn't pissed about the French spying as well.
> I certainly think [...] that the quality of your staff is more important than your process.

I don't think those are independent variables.

In my experience, one of the properties of a good development team is that if a project lacks clear guidelines so the developers can work effectively together, the team will naturally tend to self-organise. They will establish enough ground rules among themselves to collaborate effectively, and they will adopt or create any tools necessary to support that basic process. A good team that does already have a decent process and competent leadership will still naturally review and update that process over time based on their experiences using it.

This also explains why one or two substandard developers on an otherwise competent team are so damaging: they are sufficient to disrupt any reasonable attempt at self-organisation, and the team now requires strong leadership rather than merely collaboration among peers. Unless the leader is capable of both instilling discpline in the rogue elements and simultaneously accepting and promoting good ideas from the remainder of the group, which is a very difficult thing to do even for an experienced manager with good intentions, the result will still be lower performance than a team without the negative elements.
This is the same hardware as the XO stylus in a different case. Same OEM for both. They look great, the demos are wonderful, but user reviews say that they don't work well in the upper third of the screen and require frequent recalibration.
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> (Granted, Google's complicit to the carrier's requests here too -- however, I'm still perfectly able to install anything I want on my phone.)

This is not a valid argument for the average Android user, since they would have to root their device first. Jailbreaking an iPhone would also allow you to install anything you like.
There is kind of interesting project out there:
http://www.kickstarter.com/profile/ipen

They seem to use totally different approach - an external motion detector, proximity sensors which gives this tool much better precision. It's this kind of technology as used in kindle touch. Although it's still early for them, idea behind this is quite interesting.
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At least they have the decency to not rip off the UI entirely... I wonder how it will work out for the Chinese language, probably breaking characters down to strokes?
Yes, it's interesting to me how (as with so many things), Apple frames the debate in which other things are judged. iOS screen resolution way lower than other phones? Doesn't matter. Retina display arrives -> screen resolution is everything, major selling point! iOS has no built in voice recognition? Doesn't matter. Siri - major selling point, when is Google going to respond?! And the same with the OS updates; if Apple wasn't delivering updates so well, would we even have this question at all?

I have a feeling it is primarily a geek obsession and for all the ranting of geeks it isn't going to make much difference. Android will always have the latest and greatest and simultaneously the oldest and cruftiest stuff going around, and by and large consumers won't care because all of them play Angry Birds.
Not by how much money you make.

Former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker in 2009 said, "I wish someone would give me one shred of neutral evidence that financial innovation has led to economic growth - one shred of evidence… [U.S. Financial services increased its share of value-added from 2 percent to 6.5 percent] Is that a reflection of your financial innovation, or just a reflection of what you're paid?" The only financial innovation over the past 20 years that impressed Volcker was the automated teller machine.
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You're absolutely right. Not having a distinction between required permissions (e.g. a music player is pretty useless without the permission to read the SD card) and optional ones (e.g. a Twitter app can attach your location to your tweets if you want it to, but it doesn't have to) is the biggest problem with Android's permissions system.

Ironically, it is more of a social problem than a technical one. If people were expected to gracefully handle the exceptions thrown when permissions are denied, we'd be 80% of the way there, I think.
Yep - there is a reason Wacom tablets are still so expansive. You wouldn't be able to get that resolution at an iPad size for cheap enough - but it is only a matter of time (now that there is a higher scale of demand from Apple and other tablets)
This price model will motivate the developers to create products that exactly tailor all the needs of their users, and the users could potentially (and probably will) save money buying a subset of the products they deem necessary. A flat fee will make the developers focus on top X priorities, leaving a segment of the user base possibly out of luck.
You don't have to root a device to install anything, you just have to enable "Unknown sources" (Android will prompt you to enable it when you try to install an APK). A non-negligible amount of people do this -- it's how the Amazon Appstore works on everything (save for the Kindle Fire): http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&ref=mas_gs...
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Just downloaded it and gave it a spin with my Bamboo stylus. Here are my impressions, FWIW:

* First impression: Nice tutorial, nice animations when picking a notebook. Great idea to do your app planning sketches as its own notebook.

* First impression while writing: Nice inky strokes, I like the colors.

* Second impression: Hmmm...this seems a bit laggy compared to Noteshelf or Penultimate. <flip over to those programs> Yup, definitely laggier (I have an iPad 2). Probably only a few milliseconds lag, but noticeable.

* Third impression: I like the rewind interface instead of an undo button. Very cool.

* Fourth impression: No zoom or magnifying glass? bummer.

* Final decision: Nice, impressive, innovative UI but unfortunately especially the lagginess will cause this to not replace Noteshelf as my default go-to notebook. The lack of zoom is also a bummer, since with a magnifying glass you could add so much more detail, it makes up for the iPad's lack of pinpoint accuracy.

3.5/5 (edit: just realized i'm not on the app store so I can give decimal ratings :P)

P.S. Also, a "hand guard" area to ignore touches as in Noteshelf would REALLY be nice to be able to draw without having to make sure you never touch the screen with your hand while drawing.
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"If Facebook wants a team so badly that its very busy CEO who is about to take his company public is spending his time personally courting them, maybe it’s worth keeping."

Or maybe its simply that Yahoo! doesn't know how/isn't organizational able to utilize this resource.

Which then begs the question, why have these research folks stuck around all this time given the fluidity of the job market?
If they had gone with the traditional free lite version / paid premium version model, you would lose all of your drawings when you upgraded. This is just a free trial for the real product which can be unlocked at any time with minimal friction. Personally, I prefer this to having to hunt in the app store for the "premium" version if I decide to make the switch.

Doing this also gives the developers the option to introduce paid updates in the future, which is potentially good or bad.
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well......... chinese are good at copying aren't they?
can you even think of a thing that come from China originally?

but the speed...i give them credit for that
Agreed. Increasingly I want to focus my work experience down to the exchange: "get things done (well) -> get paid (well)".
you know i hate to admit it, but i like the look of that landing page much better than the facebook landing page for the real app.
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Autodesk Sketchbook pro is, though: http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/pc/item?siteID=123112&#...

Works great, and has more features; pen /brush editing, layers, export to .psd...
Interesting, I hadn't seen the XO before. It's too bad these ultrasonic styluses don't live up to the hype. I would love to take notes on a new iPad and ditch the paper notebooks completely. It'd be sweet if Apple shipped a solution, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
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This is part of the reason why I really appreciate m2clipse (Maven Eclipse IDE) ability to download the source code (when available in the repository, which, in Java land, almost always) when I tried to navigate to the Class definition, method implementation, interface or whatnot.

It's very empowering to read the source code because one can learn a lot.

A few more things to add from your points:

To work-around a software, sometime I have to understand how it works internally and given the source code, I don't have to spend a lot of time to reverse-engineer it.

Having said that, sometime the customers do care if it's my fault or IBM faults if we stated clearly in the deliverable that "hey, we're using IBM WebSphere for this...". They would give IBM some time to fix it, or ask us if we can work-around it, or they would bend certain requirements (i.e.: work-around the requirements, not the code).

This is why sometimes, probably a dying trend given the quality of open source software, an outsource project chose software based on the company behind it.
When I read this I wasn't sure whether this was really meant (those steps sound awful, especially if you have to do it over and over) or a parody/sarcastic. Poe's law is getting to me.
True, but sometimes perceptions are becoming self-fullfilling profecies :-(
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I'd say there are two key things to pay attention to:

1. Does the device have an officially unlockable bootloader?

Many Android devices do (e.g. Nexus devices, most HTC devices, most Sony Ericsson phones (though that may change as they are absorbed into Sony, the Asus Transformer Prime, ...), some do not (most Motorola phones, Sony's Android tablets and Google TV devices, etc.) and then there are some in the middle (they're relatively easy to unlock, but the unlock isn't official - e.g. most Samsung and LG devices).

2. Is the device getting an official version of ICS?

As I and others have noted elsewhere in this thread, ICS is a technically demanding upgrade (particularly at the kernel and driver level). If your device has gotten or is getting official ICS, then any custom ICS ROMs will have an official kernel (with source) and a full set of third-party drivers to build on, which is big leg up on devices that don't have that.
Thing is that these "vendors" don't have the same level of hardware bias that Android has. Unlike "something Nexus something", people can't (usually?) run a vanilla Android.

PS: if you pine for those days of manually fixing things, there's always LFS that has all the knobs and switches. I guess it's even more hardc0re than an old RH9.
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Everybody is copying this game as far as I'm concerned. I remember playing it like 10 years ago.
It's very well done, in a style that's a rarity for Chinese pages (which tend to be very cluttered to international eyes). These guys have a modern aesthetic - kudos to them for that.

I'm only surprised it didn't take longer for a clone to emerge, given how fast clones are made in China.
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Fair enough - I thought the ability was widely available - seems not. I've only owned one android device - a method of rooting it came out about a month after it was released (a Huawai 7" tablet)
Exactly, I played Yahoo Graffiti ages ago. I was actually considering making an iOS version, and then came across Draw Something on the app store. A few weeks later it blew up and had tons of press. This genre just goes back.
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There have been complaints that we have too many bots in the channel now. There have been complaints about it spamming the channel. There were several “Make them shut up!” responses. These are not reactions I have seen the other bots elicit, certainly not with such intensity.

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It's always sad to see once great companies gow down the drain like this, no matter how well deserved it may be.

My theory why they didn't leave: There are companies that can develop some kind of "gravity" (for lack of a better word) that keeps people stuck even if it would be better to get away. It almost seems that's this is a heritage of the glory days gone by. And if the decline is kind of flat, you can end up needing a major wake-up call to realize where au finally arrived.
You are right.
I work in cellphones. When I say the words Ice Cream Sandwich, they laugh. Same goes for the previous versions of android. When they hold the Galaxy Nexus, they want it. Same goes with the iPhones.
It's what the device does and how it looks let's an average customer decide, not the technical mumbo jumbo. And the price.

Leave this guy alone with his rant.
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JavaScript is part of the web now. It's because people like interactive content, not because of some conspiracy to DRM their corporate advertising blog.

Also, proxying works fine for SPDY: http://dev.chromium.org/spdy/spdy-proxy.
Talking about copying... there was a portal called Jippii long time ago, they had "Draw Something" game in year 1995 already. The whole omgpop.com looks like Jippii, only they use flash instead of Java. The reason why I remember it so well is because it was one of the first sites I visited (with Rotten.com)

The portal(s) were owned by Saunalahti, a Finnish mobile Operator. Their Jippii portals very very popular in some parts of Europe.

Unfortunately they don't exist anymore.
The plugin click to enable in chrome is built-in.

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How do you define sexist?

Do you define sexist to mean the belief that one gender should be able to violate the rights of the other? That one gender is better than the other?

That one gender is different from the other?

Under your definition, why is sexism bad?
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1) True. Still, I think I would choose the "malaria" world over the "batmobile" world; and the "malaria" world is probably not optimal.

(Remember, he already has a Batmobile. In the "malaria" world I'm assuming he keeps using it.)

2) Research isn't the only thing money can buy. I was thinking mosquito nets. And again, that's probably not optimal.
Thanks for pointing that out! I don't think I have ever written the word procrastination myself, so wasn't even aware of the spelling mistake I made.
>It's always sad to see once great companies gow down the drain like this, no matter how well deserved it may be.

Well, a company is a just a collection of people. And since these people are moving on, they're going to go on creating cool stuff. Better to have companies dissolve like this than people with good ideas to stagnate in a dying office.
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So if Wacom starts supporting iPad with styluses, will you guys repurchase another iPad if you already had one?
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>Read what he's writing. It's downright rude.

Can you point to the rude parts? Or is that too much to ask?

>Learn to discuss matters like an adult, and you won't have this issue.

Actually most of the discussion on the issue is like that of touchy 20 year olds.

Adults dont "down-vote" on disagreement.
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I had incredible difficulty with the rewind/undo interface. Almost as often as I bring up the rewind UI, it'll do some other action instead, like drawing little dots, or zooming in/out, or bringing up/dismissing the tools palette.

When the dialog is finally brought up, it doesn't respect my finger motions. I'll drag my one finger a full 360 around my other finger but the pie chart moves less than 5 degrees in total, jerkily. Or, it flaps forward and backward rapidly as I smoothly move my finger in one direction. Maybe there's a heuristic that's trying to pick a "pivot" finger and a "rotating" finger, and it's picking wrong each time. I dunno.

Willing to give them the benefit of the doubt because the rest of the app is so well done, but, this brokenness of such a key feature makes a bad initial impression.