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> You first reply was littered with immaturity and insults.

Sorry, I tried to verify that, but it looks like it is your comment, the one mentioning an immature brat, that sounds at least very arrogant and condescending, if not rude. I honestly fail to notice such qualities or insults in batista's comments down the thread after yours (although complaints about being downvoted he certainly could omit). Though it might be my insufficient understanding of language or culture, so I'd be grateful if you point out the offending parts.
Same with kids in the developed world - the uk riots were organized by BBM last summer.
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Reviews of my peers are great inputs to validate my interest with add-ons!
6 months ago, there were 250 million iOS devices had been sold - that's iOS only, no Macs. I make that one for every 28 human beings on this planet. What number would tip this so that you considered Apple devices to be common?
I am amazed by how, you, in one sentance have succeed to capture the exact essence of what I imagine Tesla would be like. :-)
That may be true, but the same democratization smackfu is talking about has also taken place on the distribution & marketing end. It's easier now to "market" & distribute your movie without help from the gatekeepers. Mostly online, but it's cheaper to make DVDs too.

Pointing to Kevin Smith again, he is now promoting a movie independently using his internet celebrity, blog, podcast, tours, film festivals (this used to be the only channel) and distributing it via netflix, itunes & such.

Both points are probably true at the same time. A lot of the biggest stuff is going on inside the castle. The Gatekeepers are stricter than ever about what they let in. But, times are pretty good in the town outside the castle too, you might not have to care as much about the gatekeepers. If news of your juggling prowess reaches the King, the gatekeepers will let you in. If not, you can still entertain the masses.

The analogy to startups is good. But, you don't have to blame the investors/studios. What they are doing might make sense. They want less risky investments because they are putting a lot of money into them. It's not necessarily a bad thing that longer shots get less money. It's nice that they can still take the shot without it.
> most of their applications are NOT being coded in Obj-C

Yeah I'm going to call bullshit on that.

Bullshit.
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107 views, doesn't anyone have anything to say? :P
Do you have a source for that (iOS mostly
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Is Objective-C really popular now? I mean would people volunteer to use it, if they weren't forced by Apple?

One indicator would be that there would be ports of Objective-C to many platforms, is that the case?
That's not even close to giving a practical algorithm because (1) the set of words is huge, the powerset of words is huger (2) you didn't describe how to find the optimal counter strategy. And actually I don't think it's necessary to consider any subset of words.

The usual way to find a Nash equilibrium is with linear programming. But for that you have to construct a matrix of size #(deterministic strategies for player 1) * #(deterministic strategies for player 2). Player 1 does not have so many stategies (just the number of words in the dictionary) but player 2 has an enormous number of strategies.

So something else is needed. We can try to write an algorithm for finding expected value of the the optimal counter strategy to when player 1 is playing a mixed strategy, let's call it ev(s) where `s` is a game state. Then we would have ev(s) = max_{s' in successors of s} ev(s'). Perhaps this can be done using dynamic programming, but it could lead to far too many states being evaluated. If you could give an approximated upper bound then perhaps some of the paths could be discarded early. Anyway then the Nash equilibrium is to minimize this ev over all mixed stategies of player 1, i.e. all probability distributions over the words. How one would do that is another tricky question.

One positive news is that we can consider each word length separately, as the final Nash equilibrium would always choose a word of the same length for player 1, i.e. the optimal strategy for hangman would always choose a word of size n (but we don't know n yet, and n will depend on the dictionary).
We're miscommunicating, because I don't see how that invalidates what I said.

Roughly speaking, the original guy to whom I replied said "YC doesn't provide enough money, so I can't solve hospital care through them." I suggested that this wasn't the point of YC, that the money was appropriate for three months, and that if the idea was really so good, YC would help him get subsequent funding (with which he could pay himself properly).
Since you acknowledge that this is not the prevailing view, do you have any data or sources to support it?
I think that sohn's point is not that PhoneGap/Titanium/etc are more popular than they really are, but that most iOS apps are really written in C/C++ with only thin shim to interface with iOS where necessary (think games portable to other platforms).
No, "best" means that one is more effective than the other, it does in no way mean that only one method should be used.
You could make the same argument for other languages - I've never used Java out of preference, but have written 100,000s of lines of it because it was what was required to get the job done in the context.

I still think it's popular.
Stats on popularity from TIOBE:

http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index....
(Obj-C now the 5th most popular and quickly rising)
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To be fair, many people own multiple iOS devices.
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It is interesting how, any mention of Edison on the internet quickly turns
away from his achievements to an impromptu discussion of how he was a dick and
tried to fuck Tesla over. Every single comment in this thread is about Tesla.
This amuses me greatly.
They want a language that's safe, concurrent, blabla, and good for system programming? Then they should take a look at Ada 2012. But I guess they just want to build something themselves.

They could even make use of Ada's real time capabilities. It was a pleasure when I ran QNX (2005) and everything responded to my actions on spot, even their browser (Voyager). Today I run FF and after a while and with several tabs open it takes (many) seconds until this beast shows some reaction.

BTW I don't use Ada but mostly Haskell since 2001.
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>I don't think it's ever too late in a tech market as long as your company still has enough funds to launch and market one more product.

This is something we see over and over again in this industry. Yet, people still don't believe it.
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I am actually currently using this phone after my iPhone died a few weeks ago, it was supposed to be a stop gap until I got the iPhone sorted but it has become kind of liberating to not have a smart phone. My fiancée is happer about me not bing attached to hackernews on my phone all the time as well!

Does anyone know of an inexpensive phone that has no internet but does sync contacts (possibly calendar too) with a computer and more memory for texts, the E1080 only uses the sim for both?
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Yup! Was a great process trying to cut the thing down (easy when your excited to blabber on). Also died laughing making the video. See what happens next, "IF YOUR GOING TO SAN FRANCISCO..."
Could you? Because there's the Mono project for .Net for example. Which seems pretty popular. Where's the ObjC equivalent?
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I'm guessing it's not against the T&C's, otherwise Amazon would have closed his affiliate account by now. They're quite good at that.

Google probably doesn't see the point. I'm sure there's something in the T&C's that would allow Amazon to close an affiliate account for any reason they want to. If they still get the same amount of traffic from Google either way, they'd close it.
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Granted, this procedure is only helpful for the community if it actually is shown to reduce the risk of HIV transmission, and it's not a cure, but anything that helps reduce the risk is a good thing.
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yea, I would love to see this put up on github once he gets it off the disks
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A Mono-a-like is not required as Apple has fully open sourced it. Instead there's GCC, Clang and http://www.gnustep.org/
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Apple sold around ~133 million iOS devices in 2011. How is that "not common"?
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> I've been warned that if I don't appeal the decision within 4 days, my Google Plus account will be suspended. Other than pressing an 'appeal' button of Google Plus, I couldn't find any way to provide 'further information', as requested in their email.

He did appeal. There's no clear way to provide additional information, making the hopes of actually getting any results from an appeal slim.

Either way, the appeal process is tangential to the problem of google requiring "real names" as if such things actually exist.
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Yes, it sucks that Edison screwed over Tesla, but how about the fact that he had serious BALLS?

And Steve Jobs wasn't a dick at all? C'mon.

Edison was a great entrepreneur. Despite his personal failings, he had the vision and determination to bring a lot of great things into the world.
What Edison >>actually invented<< ( not steal or buy )?
Not an organic growth though.
It sucks we don't have good whuffie (subjective reputation). Sticking to a low-traffic tag is certainly a good way to see more challenging questions, and get more enjoyment from the site; filtering out some of the popular tags (which tend to be low-signal) from the front page also works.
I always wondered if that popularity is tied to Apple devices. I mean... are there projects using Obj-C out of an Apple context?

Other sources:

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https://github.com/languages
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That's really disappointing. It's hard enough trying to get people to trust your app without jokers like this ruining it for the rest of us. I agree with alpb, report it!
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Matz isn't a zealot either, so your argument is obviously flawed.
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A small number of geeks and a fair number of households own more than one iOS device. Most people don't.
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Apple devices may not be the most common devices out there, but they are a very popular target for developers.

Many applications developers will target iOS before they target android etc, even though the sales numbers may be higher simply because the apple store has a reputation for converting paid apps better.

Therefor, any serious mobile developer probably know objective C.

Not sure what you think the applications are being coded in?
Sure, maybe some use cross platform toolkits but I bet the best selling apps are written in obj-C or at least by developers familiar with it.
Not really. Apple can withhold iPhones from carriers if they want.

At best, Google could withhold Nexus phones, they can't withhold Android. Some OEM would always be willing to play ball. I suspect even the compatibility requirements and Google apps agreements wouldn't help. Everything I've heard is that Google certifies phones - not phone/carrier bundles (and, at least in the GSM world, it is hard to see how they could do otherwise).
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Speaking just as a normal user with no expertise in data privacy etc, the things which negatively affect my trust in a service are:

- lack of a visible monetisation plan. If I can't see how you'll make money I will assume that'll it be through selling all my data to advertisers.

- A copy/paste Privacy Policy

- Being based in the US (prejudiced maybe, but not without reason). As a European I don't want my data on US servers and subject to ever seemingly weakening data protection laws.

- Not knowing who is behind the company. If I can't see Linkedin profiles, blogs or similar for the founders I will assume it's shady and walk away.

- Responding to questions about privacy with vague meaningless canned statements that don't address the issue.

- Inability to see exactly what the company stores about me. E.g. I can't see what metrics Google has generated from my GMail account to use for targeted advertising
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Perhaps, but equally most iPad owners seem to also own an iPhone.
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Other than stating that the blog post was highly editorialised, there was absolutely no indication given by whyenot about what Hawks biases might be.

To be honest, your comment reads strongly as though you are projecting.
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Perhaps for J2ME development, but apart from that I'd say thousands of companies have individually decided to use Java. Apple is just one company that has decided to use Objective-C.

Edit: I forgot about Android, but Java was "popular" before that - in fact Android probably uses Java because Java was popular...
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Thanks a lot for these - been looking for a solid set of resources on this for a while.
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Objective-C the language has always been extremely portable. Even pre-NeXT there were compilers/runtimes for Atari, Amiga, Mac, DOS/Windows, Unix, QNX, and probably a bunch of other systems I am not aware of.

When NeXT shared their compiler patches and runtime (after some GPL-prodding), Objective-C became part of gcc and available on pretty much any supported platform, especially after the GNU-runtime delivered a portable messenger ( objc_msg_lookup()() vs. objc_msgSend() ).

That's the language itself, but you also need to consider the frameworks implemented in it.

NeXTSTep itself was, of course, ported to Intel, HP-Precision architecture and SPARC. Compiling for other architectures was as simple as checking a box in Project Builder. Later there were OPENSTEP-compatible implementations on Windows and Solaris.

The grand-daddy of the open-source implementations is, of course, GNUStep, though there are a bunch more that have been around for a while such as libFoundaton and mgstep. My current favorite is Cocotron, it allows cross-compilation for Windows and Linux right out of Xcode.
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> individually decided

Languages aren't used in a vacuum, and the economics of them involve positive network externalities and switching costs, so 'individually' needs some qualification.
When I joined Motorola, I had to fill in some kind of aptitude test that obviously came from the states. This was in Sweden but I'm an Englishman; pity the Swedes.

The English wasn't English English and it frequently used words that sounded like American sitcoms and which, in the context of a test where one answer is write and another wrong, I was quite unsure of the distinctions between.

I guess I scraped through by luck.
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Yes I see the correlation, come to think of it Steve did kind of screw Woz over that breakout game.

Anyway maybe it doesn't suck at all, I believe Tesla needed to learn the customs of the American entrepreneurship if he was about to start his business there. And, um... I am afraid he didn't. :(
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Any specific suggestions as to what reporting method to use?

Is there anything in place for this kind of abuse? Has anyone reported anything like this before and can comment on the efficacy of the complaint?
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The (non)-success of GNUStep speaks volumes about how popular the ObjC library would be if it weren't for the monetary incentive provided by Apple.
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