skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
In the US, small trucks disappeared because of the EPA mandates for fuel mileage. The idea that there is no market for them is plain wrong. Even small trucks like the ranger got much larger because the engines are not efficient enough to meet the EPA mileage and emissions requirements for small wheel base vehicles.

The idea that the move to larger vehicles is due to an arms race or due to insecurities is simply wrong. It may appear this way but the truth is that mileage requirements drive design including wheelbase. The EPA requirements are frequently revised and are too aggressive to allow any of our beloved small cars and trucks to exist on the road today in any form.
This is awful. The fact that they wouldn’t at least offer some nominal fee is immoral and beyond the pale.

I hope they’re able to raise funds to litigate a settlement.
With this technology flourishing I wouldn’t be surprised seeing more and more hawks as ‘pets’ though. Don’t underestimate the reaction to any abusive tech, the achilles heel may be even easier than that to strike
The main issue with OCR of anything with math in it is always that it has to be not 99.99% but 100% correct. Which is probably not possible.
They seem to define cynicism as very, very different than what i was taught in school. I always understood the term to be a unconditional and holistic critique of human society arising from the belief that humans are capable of better behavior than we observe. the definition presented just seems to be a very specific type of pessimism.

i identify as a cynic, so i'm a little sore.
There are no shortages in a free market.
the legendary NIMBYs are the ones funding this
I know nothing of them but a quick perusal of their website makes them look like not much more than a fancy real estate developer.

In fact the imagery on the website furthers my point. Looks like modern apartment buildings and malls, very similar in feel to those in Demolition Man.
The same crops can be grown cheaply elsewhere. Artificially subsidizing California agriculture with unsustainably cheap water undercuts growers in other markets.

Stop giving insanely cheap water to large growers with inefficient water usage practices, and the market will quickly right itself and move production elsewhere. At a more sustainable price, with less ecological imbalance.
> Subject: Free News Servers Listing

Web interfaces:

https://www.rocksolidbbs.com/rocksolid/article-flat.php?id=8...

https://www.novabbs.com/rocksolid/article-flat.php?id=715&gr...

Check the alternative hierarchies and connection options while you're at it.

The difference, I suppose, is that Google Groups are run by autopilot with nobody in the cockpit, Eternal September doesn't ask the average user too many questions (it is as accepting as its name suggests), but those small server admins will ask you questions if you start posting crap, and will delete it, and ban the account.
I assume Noah's Ark/great flood and ???. I can't pin down the second.
For me, and I assume others, the act of writing is an important part of the learning process. Writing on paper even more-so than typing on a keyboard.

Writing forces me to organize my thoughts, summarize, elaborate, reference other parts of the text, iterate until the pure essence is clear, remove redundancies, and this cements the concepts in my mind.

Merely reading, or worse, hearing, or worse copy/pasting something is only the first part of learning.

It's similar with programming but I would take it even further. I never really understand complicated code until I've written tests and run the debugger and been very close to it.

An AI chat bot is a powerful tool, but if you just use it to generate assignments you won't learn much. Inevitably it will be used both well and poorly and the results will be mixed.
How to Become Wise
Agreed. High end cafeterias, run by Bon Appetit Management Co (et al) are also part of the appeal.

Don't want to have to cook all the time, nor go to fast food, et al. Having a default place on site is crucial.
So he could have literally earned “FU money”!
I think the current precedent is that you can, as long as it's not wholly machine generated work. Whatever modicum of creativity you put in as an editor is what's got legal protection.
I was lucky enough to take two IBL courses from Dr. Michael Starbird at UT Austin. Both were wonderful courses, very engaging and very fun. I never collaborated so much with other math students as I did in those courses. In particular this was my intro to topology and I’ve been hooked on it ever since.
My years doing hardware development and driver programming in college taught me about the evils and endless frustration of invisible, un-resettable state. "Why did my driver worked the first time but exactly same code fails now? Which of hundreds of hardware registers did I forget to reset _this time_?"

Same thoughts appear when I look at Smalltalks... Ok, I can edit any function or variable, including a system one; and the changes would be saved automatically in opaque persistent "image". So if you mess a system function, your whole system is unusable and you have restore from snapshot; and even something as simple as a program which continuously pops up message boxes can make system unusable (and again, require restoring from snapshots). It's like Windows 98 but with no reboot option!
> A different situation is you read a copyrighted news article and write the facts from it in your essay.

This is fine for actual facts(with some caveats) but how should it apply for creative works like a novel ?
And they are slowing down, or stopping entirely in the case of San Jose, when it comes to building new housing: https://www.axios.com/local/san-diego/2023/08/22/new-apartme... - at this point just about anything is better than the status quo
Wanna talk about this?

Lots of discussion on this from the numerous news stories about it in the last week

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37266398

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37279521

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37269147
> Founders and venture capitalists who flocked to artificial-intelligence startups are learning that turning the chatbot buzz into successful businesses is harder than it seems.
To be fair, that same argument could be made against any new programming language designed to replace an old, firmly entrenched one.
I used to think that liberalism taken to its logical end would result in a "Start Trek" society. Little did I expect that at the end of that hike just lay Canada.
> Here's a question for anyone with this perspective: What should a fully tested, fully qualified, car do in this situation?

Okay, fine: it should deploy an embedded all-purpose maintenance drone to exit the vehicle and move the cone to a safe and out-of-the-way location.

It's a good thought experiment, and I think goes to show that we can't really have Level 5 Autonomous Vehicles without an embedded all-purpose maintenance drone. I mean the dream is for humanless robotaxis to drive themselves to their next fare, right? They shouldn't need a human to come out in order to remove a harmless 5-pound object. I mean how about any number of other things that might happen onto its hood? A plastic bag, or a half-eaten happy meal? These are routine urban annoyances that require 15 seconds of attention and an eyeroll at most.
>They translate at state of the art levels

They are actually much better than previous state of the art. For the couple dozen languages with enough representation in the training set, GPT-4 is by far the best translator you can get your hands on, even without the whole "ask for context" etc
Ghosts as silent echoes of a person's past is not original, but the only ghosts I remember from LoTR weren't like that. A magic item that spammed the echoes might be original.
> * Motorbiking

Which itself can be drilled down to drunk motorbiking, first timers on 200hp bikes, idiots without helmets etc.
An average motorcyclist dies 14x as often per km driven as car drivers, however it seems to just attract idiots.

That said, if drunk/distracted/too old drivers switch to self-driving cars that could be a positive change for everyone earlier than general population.
What's the transit story? The commute from Solano to the Bay is already miserable. While this seeks to keep jobs in Solano, people are going to want/need to get to SF. There's already train lines, but they're slow and underfunded.

I really hope they expand the transit story
Totally hear you on the static typing benefits, but let's zoom out a bit. As I mentioned before, I've got experience with both dynamic and static languages, and I think we're missing some nuance here. Specifically, I wanna bring functional vs. imperative and strong vs. weak typing into the mix.

JavaScript's weak typing does it no favors, agreed. But that's not a universal dynamic language issue. Ruby, for example, doesn't have those type coercion headaches.

Now, about Haskell and Standard ML—these guys offer a different flavor of static typing. It's not the Java-esque rigidity; it's more flexible and, dare I say, enjoyable.

On the tooling front, I've seen dynamic languages with solid IDE support and go-to-definition features. It's not a static-only perk; it's about the ecosystem's maturity.

That study is a neat data point, but it's not the whole picture. We should consider multiple variables like paradigms and type strengths, not just the static vs. dynamic lens.

I do also want to say in the defense of Elixir (and Erlang), with the advent of the dialyzer lib, it's a gradually typed language, and soon to be (fingers crossed,) a lang with a pretty unique type system. It will be both dynamic but have the same guarantees as a statically typed lang.

https://elixir-lang.org/blog/2023/06/22/type-system-updates-...

(Small tutorial on Set theoretical types, most of this is above my understanding though)
https://pnwamk.github.io/sst-tutorial/
Folx oppressed by unhoming
> AGPL "virility" is just like GPL virility.

The usual somewhat pejorative figurative term used to describe the requirement for using the same license on derivative works is “virality”, in reference to being like a virus, not “virility”—“the quality of having strength, energy, and a strong sex drive; manliness”.
Looks cool. What do you mean by cursor-style insertions/edits?
Driverless cars will NEVER ever be safer than human drivers in the big picture. But it doesn't matter because safety is just the sales pitch, the real goal is of course control.
Can you share details about your Rust port?

Do you have direct experience with other parsers that you can recommend? I like MOO because it feels very understandable. The documentation was great.
They might never read it, they might just use it to train "AI".

Like Google scanning peoples' email. "We do not read anyone's mail. It's all done by computer."
My childhood phone number in Brooklyn was a BU (28) number, though even when I was a child (1970s) the use of letter exchanges was basically a holdover of a more or less dead practice. (But the use of letter exchanges in phone numbers persisted for decades after that in New York City in store signs - I think there are still some in use today.) In Brooklyn, BU stood for "BUckminster". I had this idea that this was connected to there being a "Buckingham Road" and a "Westminster Road" in the area I grew up in (Ditmas Park West and environs) but I'm not sure if that was something I or someone I knew made up. I'm sure it had nothing to do with Buckminster Fuller.
Im not willing to do so but someone will, and an ingenious person could use a silncer or something that obfuscates their location. While Im impressed with the development of drone tech I don’t think suddently they’re invincible in any way…
Quite nice up in NorCal by the ocean, you should check it out sometime.
> that's actually not a criticism of the guy at all!"

> that's hardly a criticism of swyx, is it?

"Ironically, that's not at all what I wrote"

The most extreme idea in this thread is thinking anyone would consider your feedback based on the level of coherence you've shown: maybe give it a rest?
They're not convinced, they convince themselves. To avoid mental dissonance. We all do all kinds of mental gymnastics in order to live with ourselves.
Thanks! Macroexpanded:

A company backed by SV has purchased 52,000 acres to build a new city - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37285804 - Aug 2023 (20 comments)

Silicon Valley elites revealed as investors behind $800M Bay Area land grab - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37279521 - Aug 2023 (118 comments)

A mystery company has purchased thousands of acres to build a new city near SF - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37279223 - Aug 2023 (2 comments)

The Silicon Valley elite who want to build a city from scratch - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37266398 - Aug 2023 (205 comments)

Shadowy Company Buys Land Near Travis AFB - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37146306 - Aug 2023 (4 comments)

'Mystery company' buys land worth $800M near Travis AFB, raising concerns - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36816387 - July 2023 (170 comments)
The next California City!
Yeah, we got $2 mil for our startup, and I cringe to think how much went to our collective rents and the office rent. Probably a good 80% of that.
I want operator overloading in JS or perhaps TS. :(
> the union gets you a 7% raise (which you could have also gotten by switching jobs

Fun fact: netting yourself a little associational bargaining power doesn't negate your job marketplace bargaining power! More leverage is more leverage. This becomes much clearer when we define a few terms:

> Contentions about the state of world labor are based on assumptions about the impact of contemporary globalization on workers' bargaining power. A useful starting point for differentiating types of workers' bargaining power is Erik Olin Wright's (2000: 962) distinction between associational and structural power. Associational power consists of "the various forms of power that result from the formation of collective organization of workers" (most importantly, trade unions and political parties). Structural power, in, contrast, consists of the power that accrues to workers "simply from their location... in the economic system." Wright further divides "structural" power into two subtypes. The first subtype of structural power (which we shall call marketplace bargaining power) is the power that "results directly from labor markets." The second subtype of structural power (which we shall call workplace bargaining power) is the power that results "from the strategic location of a particular group of workers within a key industrial sector."

> Marketplace bargaining power can take several forms including (1) the possession of scarce skills that are in demand by employers, (2) low levels of general unemployment, and (3) the ability of workers to pull out of the labor market entirely and survive on nonwage sources of income. Workplace bargaining power, on the other hand, accrues to workers who are enmeshed in tightly integrated production processes, where a localized work stoppage in a key node can cause disruptions on a much wider scale than the stoppage itself. Such bargaining power has been in evidence when entire assembly lines have been shut down by a stoppage in one segment of the line, and when entire corporations relying on the just-in-time delivery of parts have, been brought to a standstill by railway workers' strikes.

-- Beverly J. Silver, Forces of Labor
I imagine that part will be hard given that it will require the surrounding region bureaucracies to play ball, and we know how well that went when it was attempted for CA's High-speed rail.
They got 4 out of 20 correct on the quiz
It is not, in fact, on their property. The airspace belongs to the public. It is ironic that they would deprive others of their property rights in the name of perceived property rights. I would certainly hope for a felony conviction in such a case. I have no sympathy for people who would use weapons to illegally enrich themselves at the expense of others.

And by the way, as has been decided this year (though it might yet be appealed) in the Wyoming border crossing case, even using a ladder to cross through the airspace above private lands is not trespassing.
This seems to be highly dependent on rhetoric, not the fundamental viewpoint. Just my observation. For instance, most people don't like the attitude that voting is not a very effective form of political action. However, they are likely to agree with the idea that voting rarely leads to adequate representation. (This is an observation of the liberals and conservatives re national electoral politics.) Merely centering the personal experience is likely to resonate with people more than dry observation.
Chrome, Opera, and Edge all now use the same engine.

The mobile world has a strong showing from Mobile Safari, but the desktop world is far more… homogeneous.

Desktop Safari made a run from 10% to 14% in the last year. Firefox went from 9% to 7% in the same timeframe.

Chrome is around 65%. Edge is around 10%. Opera is about 6%. So the desktop Blink engines combined are close to 80%.

That's pretty damn close to ubiquitous if you're on a desktop or laptop.
Is that one of the subsequent Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy books (satirical scifi)? Like we're all descendants of lawyers and other undesirables (iirc a civilization put all the lawyers on a ship to go to the sun, but it went off course and landed on earth?)
Like command-K on the Cursor code editor.

A bubble overlay would appear where you can type a prompt to either add text at any point, or edit the currently-selected text.
How do you suppose this is enforced now ? Lol
I love my XT2. What do you hack on? Is it shared publicly?
Having spent time in both: yeah sounds good.
The ideal housing is an overpriced community of highly aspirational young people that effectively violates federal housings laws by pretending elderly people and families with young children don't exist?

I dont see how it scales outside of a college community.
Agreed, suburban US lifestyle really aggravates that sense of isolation.

You go from your two car garage to Costco and back on an SUV with nothing in between but roads, gas stations and the occasional McDonald's drive-through.

A college campus and smaller European towns are the polar opposite of that, with mixed zoning, everything being walkable/bikeable, and everybody intermingling in the same space.
I'm struck that many of the comments here are reactions founded in lack of hope and shallow cynicism.

Something has killed enthusiasm and ambition for a better future in many of us. We did it to ourselves.

It is our own responsibility to imagine a better future and to find in ourselves the ambition and commitment to make it real. Seize the moment.
> Kafka

Same. Though, I forget what it is since I heard about it. Now I think it's funny that it could refer to either cruel bureaucracy or turning into a bug.
I live in Austin TX. Cruise cars circle our neighborhood ever night in fleets at low speeds, repeating the same basic traffic patterns over and over and over. Statistics about distance and time traveled are flawed, because the vast majority of autonomous driving time is spent in essentially closed-course conditions.

This is my anecdotal take.
I vaguely recall there was a Twilight Zone episode that might have used “Klondike” - anybody happen to know which one? I think they picked up the phone, the operator was either already on the line, or they might’ve dialed zero, then requested the number they wanted to call. I just remember it wasn’t completely numeric.

I always had wondered what was going on with that phone number, and I think these comments have pretty much solved the larger mystery, now I’d just like to re-watch that scene again with this new (to me) context.
> * Drugged driving

> * Driving very late at night

> * Sleep deprived driving

The above look to me like things of life that you would have preferred to avoid, but you'll end up doing anyway.

Driving a kid/spouse to an hospital in the middle of the night while you're also under your flu medications is a thing that happens. You could call a doctor/cab/ambulance but more often than not it's either not an affordable option, or you're too tired to have thought about it.

> * young, dumb and reckless

Could be a guaranteed Nobel price if you find the cure to this.
From 1963: the all digit dialing protest song, "Let's All Call Up AT & T and Protest to the President March" by Allan Sherman. Lyrics:

https://mojim.com/usy129446x2x37.htm

Audio:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCFLanFgUPI (and many others)
I kind of tend to agree with your skepticism / consternation broadly, but it does give _some_ indication as towards the types of jobs:

> This project can bring new employers to Solano, and independently create thousands of permanent, good-paying local jobs in construction, energy, services, and other industries. We are also interested in building trade schools and other educational paths that help Solano residents learn the skills they need to get those new jobs and build long-lasting careers
SF and Phoenix are representative of areas that contain markets for this. And that's enough of a start.

You don't need to begin by solving the universe.
I absolutely think that treating data piped from or to another process as JSON by default, and treating data going back to the terminal as text (by transforming the JSON to tabular data etc.) is the way to go (also because it's backwards-compatible). To the point that I wanted to write some wrappers for the standard commands that automatically did all this via `jq`. I know commands can detect whether they're being piped to another command or to a terminal, since certain commands will automatically skip ANSI coloring when being piped elsewhere...
One thing their website looks rather short of is discussion of transport links other than roads.

I know that public transport is currently considered a scary hellhole by the Bay Area HN crowd, but it seems to me that train links to the rest of the Bay Area are a no brainer for a major new community not that far from it.
Honestly, that's kind of the best reason to want self driving cars. They're never drunk, texting, hitting their kids, watching Instagram videos, etc. Upgrade all of those drivers to "boring and competent" and viola, you've saved 10,000 lives a year or more.
Everyone being descended from Adam and Eve
This is the current setup I have at my current day job and it's pretty awesome. Wouldn't change it for anything else.
a lot of it was standardized until individual companies decided to try to divvy up a market and segment it.

so many electric vehicles are running their own version of the Benjamin Vedder VESC as the primary motor controller. They change a minor feature, stop providing source, and then pretend that it's their own design.

But, even so, it's all still pretty inter-changable. Nearly all BLDCs are controlled similarly. Nearly all PEVs are running hall encoders, and if they're not it's trivial to switch between hall/sin-cos/foc/whatever with nearly any modern controller, just as nearly any controller can be programmed for just about any kind of voltage source, be it lead-acid/lipo/liion/lifepo4/whatever.

Things seem a lot more friendly for tinkerers now than ever in the whole PEV sphere. Improvements can always be hoped for, but same as with every industry : you should probably expect to exchange interoperability and freedom for closely-knit support and homogeneity.
If I remember correctly it actually depends on if the system is in standby or not. If you plug in a Wii it starts off with no power (red light) so Wii Remotes won't turn it on. Once you turn it on however, turning it off kicks it into standby mode (yellow light), where paired Wiimotes will turn it on.

I can't verify this with my Wii right now because it's standby behavior is... strange. I don't know if it's because I have bootmii/boot2 on it or what, but when it's supposed to be in standby, it instead constantly runs the fan as if it were still on. At some point in the past it worked as I described above though.
Or tar