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That seems to be an inaccurate title, on the account of a misplaced comma: "Apple Admits iTunes Download Cloud Error, Restricting Some Content Downloads" seems to mean "Apple admits that there is an error, and in response is restricting downloads"; you probably meant "Apple Admits iTunes Download Cloud Error Restricting Some Content Downloads" - "Apple admits there is an error which is the cause of restricting downloads".

The story itself is interesting, though.
I think it is a reference to the similarities in site layout. Same thin sidebar. Same minimalistic style.
> From a UX perspective the simcard is a pretty weak solution.

Actually from a UX perspective sim cards are a pretty strong solution because there is a clear and simple 1:1 mapping between a physical object and a carrier. That's as simple an UX as can be: if I want to use carrier A I use SIM A, if I want to use carrier B I use SIM B.

> For a starter, why do I have to reboot my phone to switch carriers?

I don't know, do you? I don't. I just take out the iPhone's SIM tray, replace the SIM and put the tray back in.
interesting point, not sure; on the social web its community adoption over technology every time
EM cloaking at near absolute zero has always been possible, just waiting for the day when one of these stories involves EM within the visible light band rather than a simple magnetic field!
I think you should aim for this kind of look to make it clear that you're doing something different:

http://bobcargill.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/geocities-izer...
But the whole svbtle article was very much about workflow and, at the end, community building via invites.

My blog has a similar minimal design and its just a stock Tubmlr one.
Piracy is quite common in India (both Businesses and consumers). I think piracy in other Third World countries as well (anecdotal).
> We believe that people with passion can change the world for the better

Like putting nets in front of their manufacturing buildings so workers don't resort to suicide:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1357833/Apple-respon...
I can't understand about your clearTax site. Is it similar to http://80g.in/ ?
While the concept is solid, getting carriers to go along with this is going to be impossible I would imagine. The other issue at hand is hardware pricing, especially for US consumers.

In the US, carriers love to lock their customers in by SIM locking their subsidized hardware and customers have come to expect this low cost subsidized hardware.

If you suddenly switched to a system where hardware was sold at retail cost, there would be a lot of confusion. I am guessing that if you ask the typical US consumer if they would like to buy their iPhone at $199 and commit to a contract or pay $649 for the ability to switch to another carrier at will, they will choose the contract option. It's what they have come to expect.

This type of system seems more suited to work in countries where subscribers already purchase unlocked hardware at full retail prices.
I find it very strange to see no reference to Minix3 http://www.minix3.org/

Tanenbaum is putting his money where is mouth is with the project(Or at least other peoples money he acquired) and yes the traction is slow and it it might fail but I would really enjoy the day running a operating system based on a micro-kernel, that does everything Tanenbaum promises with Minix3.
Is there actually any benefit to CDMA?
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Well piracy is a problem for s/w industry in general.

'Borrowing' is a neat little alternative to the word 'piracy' :)
The startup ecosystem in India is schizopherenic
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I am not so sure. I see two problems in the current situation here.

1. Pricing. The cost of most software is comparable to its cost in U.S. A windows 7 professional edition costs around 8000 bucks, which I think is pretty high. I am sure most people would gladly pay if they thought it was reasonable. Same with books.

2. Convenience. Most people are wary of using their credit cards or debit cards online. For physical goods, there is Cash On Delivery which is working out pretty well for a lot of companies. Not sure what the alternative is for software thought.

For example, look at Flipkart. They are killing it.

Also could not make much out of the article.
It looks good, but it would be much better if you used the right font for the text.
Is it? (Looks again.) Oh, I see what you mean, but is it "impossible"? It looks like a falling tall skyscrapper from the ground point perspective.
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Have you tried to hire one in the Boston area lately? Our second Senior rails dev position has has been open for about 5 months.
> As to writing it.. you made a fairly big splashy announcement about this great new concept in blogging, and then made it invitation only. That's guaranteed to get push back from the community, especially one that considers ideas only good for execution!

I think you've captured the essence of why some HN readers think Dustin had this coming, so to speak. The act of making the system exclusive is abrasive to so many hackers, where information is free to all, and the modifiers of this information are those with the recognizable merit to affect it. Dustin released his project in a Bizarro world version of the open source process, where information is chained and those granted access are selected in private, with no transparency of the criteria.

In fact, I would say Dustin did have it coming. That's what open source tends to do, like it or not. You only have to look back at the most popular proprietary systems of note to see that hackers love to imitate these products, if not downright replace them. Unix? Linux. Microsoft Office? LibreOffice. TiVo? MythTv. Hell, there's even a SimCity imitation called LinCity! The jackals, as Nolan Bushnell called them, are out in force--and if you haven't noticed, that's the way things have been for the last 30 years. It was inevitable that Svbtle would be "liberated". What's actually amazing is that this time it only took ten hours.

Now, if I were Dustin, I would likely be offended that my code had been reverse-engineered so closely. If I presented my code with the attitude that it is better than sliced bread, yeah, I would definitely feel wronged by my design being copied. I can sympathize with that. But I can't sympathize with the bubble in which Svbtle was presented. It came off as pretentious. There's no room for that in this day and age. And I'm not saying that Dustin Curtis deserved to have his design imitated because he was pretentious, oh no. I'm saying that he should not be so surprised that it happened. Curtis's attitude led to an imitation surfacing in such short time. Dustin's attitude affected Nate on an emotional level--and that's what brings out the jackal in open source hackers.
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The most important thing was your initial reaction, and you failed to handle this.
> does the CDMA module only work if you bought the phone from a CDMA network operator

Yes. They program it with your subscriber number at purchase. Technically they could reprogram phones not sold by them with your subscriber number, but they don't (to force you to give them more money).

There does exist a CDMA version of the SIM (RUIM? something like that). China Mobile uses it, and I think au/kddi do too. American carriers do not.
It's @dcurtis "concept" and let him decide, no matter how ethically wrong his decision is, its his' anyway. Copying the concept and releasing it is definitely not the right way of showing your discontent with his decision of not releasing his work to public.

I have an app that is closed source (the kind of thing that you would expect to be opensource but i decided not to). If someone thought that it was better if it was open and copied the concept, UI/UX and released it, i would not be very happy. Community and open is all good and i am all for it but i intend to make a living out if it [my app] and won't be happy seeing it being released. I don't know how much of a work the platform really was but my app was alot of work. more than enough that i would enforce it's closed-source status.
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> Now almost every digital device I own is made by Apple, not because its perfect or the best on the market, but because it represents the virtues of craftsmanship in a world of mediocre, mass-produced products.

Err... their products are mostly mass-produced (not crafted) in the same places most of the other products are mass-produced.
When Jesus Diaz posted it on Gizmodo, the immediate response from commenter's was suspicion. Diaz responded by lambasting the critical readers. Here's a choice quote:

"It is doable and he did it. It's not fake. It's been covered by the euro press and it's real."

Have a read of some of his other less thoughtful comments: http://gizmodo.com/people/jesusdiaz/comments
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Yes, I've noticed this quite a lot recently, that somebody posts an article that become popular, soon after there appear 'secondary' articles which seem to be trying to ride the same wave. It could be genuine, but I also suspect people just quickly knock up 'follow up' articles to get the traffic. This almost always seems to happen when a new PG essay is posted.

How could the quality of HN be measured? (very Robert Persig!)
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Can you show us some references to this law?
In Europe you can apply for design patents. Afaik doing so costs a four digit sum in EUR plus the patent lawyer that writes the legalese for you.

However, to get such a patent the design must clearly be novel. Really, really novel. My uncle happens to be a patent lawyer a.d. who fought a lot of cases about product design for a big telco in the European patents court in his time. Knowing a few of his cases, I strongly doubt dcurtis design would be eligible for a design patent in Europe.

The blog itself (it's functionality) would fail an attempt to patented for similar reasons.
Apart from that, yes there is copyright everywhere but where this starts in cases like the one at hand is a gray area at best.
Yes, back up for me now, too. You might want to advise users to change the default password and login, since it's publicly viewable on github.
I think that wing design might work well within a massive air-filled structure on the moon.
- Cash on Delivery has a lot of issues. I won't elaborate but, customers refuse the sale later on (impulse buy regrets), delayed booking of revenue, costs around collecting and cash reconciliation.

My post is mostly about

- Indian Businesses and consumers don't pay for Technology Products.

- If they want to pay, they don't have mechanisms to pay you online.

- Most people aren't online. They are offline.
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> Actually from a UX perspective sim cards are a pretty strong solution because there is a clear and simple 1:1 mapping between a physical object and a carrier. That's as simple an UX as can be: if I want to use carrier A I use SIM A, if I want to use carrier B I use SIM B.

That must be why it's so common and popular to use physical tokens for the address list too. I really live to sift through the little plastic cards I keep in my pant pocket (careful not to lose one!) to find John Doe, insert it into the phone and reboot, just to make a phone call.

Or not.
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http://sdfaxdds.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_replace.asp

That looks like wildcard DNS to me. The question is where the linkbacks are coming from. It is possible w3schools is creating those themselves, in which case that does seem like unethical SEO tricks. But if not, well, they can't be responsible for how people link to them.
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You may not mean to, but this is a perfect example of a trolling comment. It has high emotional leverage, but is not actually on-topic for this particular post about Apple. Think of it this way: Is there something about this comment that can only make sense to this post? Or could it really be made on practically any post abaout Apple?

I suspect you could say this whenever Apple comes up. iPad 3 retina display? "Amazing because you can clearly see the individual ropes in the nets on buildings..."

This comment could easily end up generating 50% of the comments here, while adding nothing new that hasn't been said before, just the same old accusations and defences. Would that really be signal? Or noise?

There could be something here, perhaps instead of trotting out a sound bite, you could present a theory of how ideals become corrupted by money, or how idealism is blind to consequences. I'm still waiting for someone to unify the way Google and Apple behave with a common narrative.
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Yep, a SIM card gives freedom from networks and the ability to change numbers easily and use pay as you go services when travelling.

There's no way killing SIM cards would be a good thing.
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"Production" refers to design as well as the assembly of atoms. In that context, a company that produces a few models of thngs is craftsmanlike when contrasted with companies that put out dozens of slight variations on the same thing, almost as if shipping twelve handsets is a/b testing...
I think what inspired the push back most isn't just that he went for a closed system, but that he went for an elitest sounding system.

I agree with your third paragraph; I sympathise with Dustin's viewpoint (though I don't entirely agree with it). I don't think he deserved the imitation, but his approach pretty much guaranteed it.

But I can't bring myself to criticise Nate either, because, as you say, he followed the typical hacker ethics - which is that if something good isn't accessible, make it so. I like that social structure; it adds competition and forces products to be the very best they can. It avoids the situation where one person can control an idea by virtue of being the first mover.

Nate misfired by being similar to the original design, I for one (and I can understand Dustin feeling differently) can forgive that mistake partly as a "hacked together in a night" job and partly because the design elements (only in my opinion) are not revolutionary. Provided he works to fix that issue (some of which he has done) then I see no problem.

I was thinking about this over coffee... I am sure that a lot of thought and effort went into Svbtle and its design; both thought and coding (no idea how much of a coder Dustin is). It's tempting to see Nate's work as hurried and with less value - but he put his skill as a coder into cloning it in a night, and he seems to want to pursue the idea further. Many of the best projects in the world started as hacked up examples, clones or tests. And, again, I am a sucker for "released early, accepting patches" :)

Which is why, morally, I'm with Nate - because his whole approach seems "nicer" than Dustin's. If this platform goes the distance, who would I want to see at the helm? Perhaps the wrong measure, but I'm only human :)
Flipkart & other ecomm portals are not offering any technology. They are using a fairly simple website to let people order everyday goods.

The concept of ecommerce is pretty old in itself. The fact that Indian consumers have woken up so late to it re-emphasizes that Indians resist technological intervention. It is not as if internet penetration, credit card penetration and logistics infrastructure has changed radically in the past year in India. It is the only the investment scenario that has changed. Archit's article in some sense calls for more such investments in other technology and technology enabled products.
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> As a designer, I find it somewhat perplexing that people here demand that code be directly copied for something like this be wrong. Design is more abstract than code, yes, but it's just as fundamental a part of the resulting product.

Design is a fundamental part of the product - no body is contesting it. Personally I am taking exception to your exclusivity expectations. I have given it a lot of thought, and I believe the current optimum is he can rip off your design and only thing you can do about it is feel outraged. The alternative is scary - if this sort of exclusivity requirements are enforced, Apple would shutdown MS over supposedly copying windows and Android over copying "swipe to unlock".

> Copying design, especially when the original source is so obvious, has damaging effects that are hard to quantify. Poor clones can directly damage the creation of a strong original brand and can preempt future creative product positioning.

That's how free market works.

> Please steal my ideas. Take them, manipulate them, and build them into something that is your own. I wouldn't have publicized my new platform if I didn't expect the ideas to be used. Just don't copy my implementation or designs.

I can choose to play nice, or I can rip you off wholesale. As long as I am within the realms of law, it's fair game. You might not like it, but it's better than the alternatives where you can dictate what I can and can not do just because you did something first.
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"Why isn’t Apple fighting to kill the SIM cards?"

They tried: http://blogs.wsj.com/tech-europe/2011/05/24/apple-wanted-to-...

Personally I'm a big supporter of SIM cards. While competing network systems (CDMA, iDEN) were designed to lock in networks and users to a single vendor, GSM was designed by a consortium of european national telecoms at every single layer to ensure that all the stakeholders (users, telecoms, regulators) had as much interoperability and freedom as possible, and SIM cards are the user's end of that plan.

If Apple implemented his proposal, you can bet iPhone users would only be able to pick special overpriced iPhone plans, instead of just using whatever prepaid plan they want.
I agree that Apple's stuff looks classy, has a nice aesthetic, and has a lot of design work that goes into it, but it's also important to see some of the marketing hype for what it is. It's not hand-crafted by gnomes steeped in the crafts of wafer etching, working from little cabins high in the Tirolean Alps.
It doesn't interfere with your speakers when transmitting? I'm not sure if this is still the case, but my old AT&T phone would cause my speakers to go haywire when I was about to receive a phone call. Never experienced that with Verizon or Sprint.
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I love the design, but shrug at the idea of vetted bloggers. I have HN and twitter and reddit and FB and many other ways to filter content for me. I don't want or need a curated brand.

I especially don't want writers on the network hesitating about whether to write low-quality material. Insay, wcatter your ideas and let "the market" decide.
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When it comes to interface design, Lotus vs Borland has "you" covered:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_v._Borland
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Look, I don't have a single Apple device, and I'm closer to a GNU fundie than an Apple lover, but:

1. Foxconn is not Apple

2. The suicide rate at Foxconn is lower than both the average in China and the average in the US: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2010-05-26/tech/30097107...
Heh :) I was playing devils advocate, mostly to highlight how even that thought process could be construed in the same way as my overt actions.

I agree, with the action you mention in the last paragraph - that is the action I should have taken.

What I was questioning was the thought process behind that action, and arguing it was little different to my own, could also be seen as sexist, and is only "OK" by virtue of being not-overt :)

Mostly I was thinking aloud.

Now, coffee break.
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ah common, it's the internet trashiest sites, run by a bunch of hipsters, who never really seem to know what they are talking about. Okay maybe that's to harsh, but it doesn't really surprise me they fell for that.
But then there is this: http://www.dustincurtis.com/dear_american_airlines.html
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Nope. That's part of the risk assumed by investors.

Plus "you can't get blood from a stone"---how much of that money exists that they could pull it out? And whose money is it exactly when you have multiple investors? At best they would only be entitled to a fraction of a fraction.

It would also set a bad precedent for companies they've invested in if startsup are not allowed to adapt because they'd lose funding, making it more likely that investments fail due to stagnation.
On a batch of 17 new phones rolled out about 30 days ago, we have had 3 iPhone users report problems that were tracked down to faulty/failed SIMs and one 'regular' SIM has failed in another phone - so I'm rather wishing SIM cards wouldn't keep dying!
When you go to select the list of carriers on your phone as you propose, your phone will only be able to show carriers for which it can tranceive. It's not like they all share the same spectrum.

Furthermore, switching numbers and accounts, and transferring them to other phones could be made more complex.
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I willingly admit that, not being a designer, I may well have miss the subtlety in the basic layout that is important. Is there really that much in the column sizing?

With that said; you are right about font/colors (I hadn't noticed).

I give credit to Nate for taking steps to address those similarities following feedback, and I hope he goes further with that.
Perhaps I overreacted.

Takes a lot to admit this, especially publicly. Hopefully if I find myself in a similar situation, I'll do the same thing, and in less than an hour after my initial reaction.

If HN had Kudos buttons, I'd hover my mouse over yours for a few seconds.
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Yeah... Being ancient technology, the carriers have had more time to put towers everywhere, thus giving better coverage.

However, you still can't do data and voice at the same time.