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Here is a Python3 packages listing on PyPI: http://pypi.python.org/pypi?:action=browse&c=533&sho...
There's some interesting stuff for web developers in there: Pyramid, Bottle, SQLAlchemy, pymongo3, Mako, Jinja2, nose, etc. It seems that the whole web development stack is pretty much covered. Although it's not listed there, Tornado should also run on Python3. I considered starting my new project with Python3 but eventually sticked with Django because of the time-saving reusable apps available, but it's interesting to note that building web apps with Python3 should already be feasible.
It sure looks good, but c'mon: 1600 bucks for a notebook with average components?
I see more and more of these exodus posts from various companies. The one static thing I seem to be able to pinpoint between them, is that as companies grow larger - more management is needed. As the management grows in a company the modus operandi shifts from product to bottom line. While interesting, it seems that this is just inevitable with most companies growth.
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> If there's prior art then indeed the patent should be invalidated.

Yes, but we know that doesn't always happen (and demonstrably isn't happening in some of Apple's lawsuits).

> It's worth noting that Apple suing over superficial things is more about preventing direct imitation. They aren't trying to kill their competitors by claiming fundamental technologies. I think this is actually evidence of a moderate approach.

That's not true. Apple is suing over plenty of fundamental, ridiculously broad patents as well, but (with the exception of the "clickable-actions-in-text" patent) we happen to not be talking about them here (in part because Apple lost on some of the more fundamental patents they've asserted).

Here's an article from two months ago that describes some of what Apple is suing over:
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/12/apples-first-major...

Quoting the article we have:

- "one on layering an object oriented application on top of a procedural operating system (i.e. Mac OS X on top of UNIX)"

- "a method for dynamic object message passing translation"

- "automatically recognizing certain data structures and offering actions for that data (i.e. "Data Detectors")" (what I've described as "clickable-actions-in-text")

- "a method for performing realtime signal processing within a non-realtime OS"

Apple happened to lose at the ITC on 3 of these 4 (the only one still standing is "Data Detectors"/"clickable-actions-in-text"), but this is clear evidence that Apple is suing over fundamental technologies (I'd say fundamental ideas, which is even worse) as well as superficial ones. Given that "Data Detectors" dates back to the Power Macintosh help system, I suspect Apple is using every bit of patent ammunition they have. I certainly don't see any evidence here that Apple is showing restraint.

I'll emphasize again that "Data Detectors" is something that virtually every email client since the mid-to-late 90s does when they make URLs and email addresses clickable, specifically because the idea is so obvious and obviously useful. Should they all have to stop because Apple took an obvious idea to the patent office first? Even when Netscape did it months before Apple in Netscape Navigator 2.0b1?

Oh, I almost forgot. HN just infringed on Apple's "Data Detectors" patent here. Should they stop?
The M icon in the Markdown Mark was created out of a modified version of the M from Gill Sans Bold (you probably should not try to recreate the mark using Gill Sans because of the modifications to the crotch on the M).
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That's interesting and informative, thanks.

The list you've given looks like a good start - is there a definitive list you'd recommend anywhere?
I don't understand it as "Markdown bellow", but rather "M(ark) down".
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I guess it could be done, but is our PSU beefy enough to power a couple of HDD's?
No, it simply hints that pricing wasn't always an issue, not that it isn't an issue.

The quick way to find out is - if they could make a good profit selling the entire set for $x where $x < $current, would they still be doing it? The answer is yes.

The reason the price used to work and doesn't now is that digital equivilents are not only (subjectively) better/easier/etc. - they're also cheaper.
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Whilst I think he was a bit confrontational you didn't address his points at all.
I am slightly bothered whenever someone dismisses a problem as "first world." For some problems such as "My parents won't buy me a new iPhone" I can see where the person is coming from. However when someone has a legitimate problem dismissing it as "first world," is unhelpful and potentially harmful.

"Don't complain about having difficulty at work, at least you aren't starving!" We all have problems, some worse than others. That doesn't mean you can just dismiss any problem someone has just because they aren't in the worst situation possible.
I'm describing how trademark works. And yes, it does a lot of that.

Mind you, the trademark owner can authorize things. And I think there is even some analog of fair use for trademarks, but you should consult with a lawyer if you ever have more than an academic interest in such things.
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I propose this unicode version:【M↓】(graphics aren't always appropriate)
I actually much prefer your logo, the arrow being part of the 'M' is (for me) more aseptically pleasing, too bad you didn't put yours forward as universal mark down symbol.

Edit: Having said that, I think Dustin's is probably easier to understand without explanation.
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I keep thinking about this article and the recent Google one as well. And I wonder, is this sort of moral decay necessarily part of the current corporate world? Is it possible, over the long run, to have a tech firm, or any other firm, that empowers employees to do what is best for everyone and to hell with the rules? Or is this merely a matter of a few good leaders who get it, and everyone else eventually overcoming them?

When I worked at Microsoft in Product Support Services, our general director "got it" and encouraged us to break any rule if it helped the customer out, so long as we did so reasonably responsibly, something I took him up on to the point it seriously annoyed my direct manager. He left, and the group I worked with ended up getting shipped off to India. And given more recent discussions with Microsoft customer service, the question of "how do we deliver quality customer service" has become far less important.

I guess my musings lead me to the thinking that being good requires a level of confidence that is easy to lose as an organization, and that as it is lost, the organization can turn toxic fast. But we can't succeed all the time. We will face huge challenges. So how do we resist the urge to turn and focus only on the immediate challenge, whether a competitor or the bottom line?
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Sorry for being "rantish", but most of the "negative" comments I'm reading around here are from people who didn't spend a single second reading the manual.

Yes, I'm not partial, I'm invested on Play, but I am because it has a wonderful documentation that makes life really easy (that plus StackOverflow).

Most of the complains in here come from people with almost no experience in it. No, a small side project of 6 hours is not "experience". You just toyed around. You can't know about the real issues or benefits related to a framework.

Please, I know this is "the internet", but in a site like Hacker News, couldn't you try to talk only about things you know?
> Just imagine the sort of arguments one could get yourself into.

> Also how will order be enforced?

This all too easily lends itself to some pirate jokes, perhaps revolving around vim users being forced to walk the plank.
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The numpy and scipy core may have been ported, but many of the Scikits (add on libraries to scipy), third party libraries and surrounding tools haven't. So most people will still go with python2 just in case they might need to use one of those tools or libraries later down the road.
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If this thread proves anything, it's that independent research is needed when picking a language. There are many inaccuracies, anecdotes and personal opinions that in my and many others' opinions don't matter once you've actually built something useful in Go.
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If I may ask

>specifically for tech jobs

Which kind of tech jobs? For banks, or something unrelated?
Rich claims that most of this cash will have to go to fulfilling the orders from Kickstarter, postage, and ordering reprints of all the books he's written, many of which have long been out of print. I've been reading OotS for a long time now and I don't think this is going to cause him any problems.

If anything causes a problem for him, it will be trying to keep the comic updated while shipping out all this stuff out to people. If he has any weakness, it's keeping a regular update schedule.
> Should we also have builtins to add to a collection?

No, because each collection type (mapping, sequence, set, ...) has very different addition semantics (and potentially arguments as well). On the other hand, there is a builtin to iterate over stuff.
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I think its important for frameworks like Rails / Django to always support the latest and greatest and at the same time give people time to upgrade for example how the rails team have done it now which is in rails 4 move to 1.9.x exclusively but in rails 3.2 still support ruby 1.8.7

developers have choice. when they're starting new app / new project they can opt for the older version or if they're feeling lucky adopt the new stack.

the important thing is developers should have a choice, because i firmly believe more choice leads to more innovation.

its not like when rails 4.0 come out they're going to force everyone to upgrade, you can upgrade at your own pace.
One hypothesis could be that all organizations go through waves of growth and success which then impact the subsequent talent they attract.

In other words, the most recent wave of talent that Greg Smith talks about is more interested in being associated with the Goldman brand, rather than the genuinely possessing the underlying desire to be world class bankers.

Also, perhaps this happened years ago and now its too late because those B players are now running the show.
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If this works out, can we expect thousands of equivalent boats offshore of every desirable country in 10 years? What are the (legal or otherwise) limits?
Personally the only reason that I am not using Python 3 right now is that Django doesn't support it, as that is the main library that I am supporting and using everyday.

Other libraries I use are smaller, can be replaced, or I could rewrite them.

I am quite sure that I am not in a minority.
Somewhat ironically, Goldman Sachs primary business principle / mission statement is:

Our Clients' Interests Always Come First

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Way to leave in style, good for him. I hope it gives the firm the wake up call it needs.

I left a couple of years ago after a three year stint. It was partly out of the boredom of babysitting a legacy platform that had little future, but mostly because the department's role devolved into getting away with doing the minimum for clients to justify our fees.

No matter how well GS pays, despite the relatively poor bonuses, it's not going to be possible to attract and retain the kind of staff they need. I wonder how many other nerds sit at their desks and catch a minute's respite by daydreaming of building something great? If they're lucky enough to have the freedom and enough of a financial cushion to take the leap I highly recommend it. I've not been happier since.
>Forcing one brace style

This has been discussed numerous times on the mailing list. The answer, for good reasons, is too bad. As you note in your conclusion, consistency is prioritized above configuration.

There's reasons for this, they were meticulously debated and chose by the designers to help people out. If you have a pure Go project, you can install it anywhere Go is available in a single command. No autotools, no makefiles, no build-essentials, nothing. Just a single `go get` command.

If you ever work on a decent sized project in Go, you will quickly come to appreciate the enforced consistency across the project.

>To use the Go tool you are required to have your directories set up in a specific way

Not with the binary distribution. And "have a source directory on GoPath" is too restrictive... set `GOPATH=~` and for 90%+ of users, their existing dir structure is perfectly fine.

>No support for using user defined types as map keys

This is no longer true IIRC.

>Two initialization functions, new and make. One returns a pointer, the other a struct.

I don't understand why this is a negative?
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The lead programmer just fell overboard during a storm, what happens?

That's not really how large ships work.
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Interest is the key word there.
I did find this, soon after posting.

https://gephi.org/toolkit/

"The toolkit is just a single JAR that anyone could reuse in new Java applications and achieve tasks that can be done in Gephi automatically, from a command-line program for instance"

Haven't installed it yet, but a work colleague is investigating this and a bunch of like products.
Startups (widely varied) or grad school. These were tech people who worked in various tech/quant roles.

I think sample size is 4 at GS, maybe 10 elsewhere.
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Wonder how many times you got asked how long you are going to hang on to Python 2.5 or even whether you/Django core devs get asked why can't they have Python 2.4 support.

Not that I care that much for environments stuck in 2.4 land, its last update was 7 years ago.
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I guarantee this won't work properly with respect to touch so you won't get anywhere useful with respect to evaluation.

Touch doesn't work with VMware workstation and my Sony touchscreen so adding a web browser in the mix isn't going to help.
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No, I understood (also the Appel misspelling).
More than weekly (but fairly randomly) I used to find installd would peg my CPU to 100% and just stay there for hours. It doesn't make my machine flakey, but it makes it slow and I have other things to do.

In the end I just reinstalled my OS, restored files from Time Machine, and everything was fine. I never did figure out why it was misbehaving. I have had (once) a similar problem with spotlight. Fortunately there I knew enough to run lsof to find it had got snuck in an infinite loop on one particular mp3 file, which I just deleted.

However, my point (which I should probably have been clearer about) is that bits of OSes are known to just start going wild for no reason, and often killing them, and eventually reinstalling, is the only option.
Was it that bad? I only sorta skimmed that thing. All I got was that life is short so don't waste it.

So I quit reading.
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So he thinks Goldman was honorable back when he was young and had no idea what was going on. Bullshit. I happen to know of some shady Goldman credit swaps from the 90s that my municipality has been trying to get out of. I'm sure there is plenty of other garbage that went on back then too. You don't hire a bunch of mostly young male type-A personalities and wave million dollar bonuses in their faces and not expect questionable deals.
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> how will order by enforced? medical emergency?

Pay for some private military contractors, doctors, and a standby helicopter. Split the cost.

EDIT: If PMC are too militant, just any lenient security company would do. I don't really see how this is a problem. Think of it as a big festival with less alcohol and run for a longer time period.
For a long time finance has been the place where the most interesting tech was going on (not to say there isn't a lot of boring bog standard stuff as well).

It's an industry where many firms have had to develop their own network transport layers, database engines, languages, etc. Where machine learning and big data have been standard practice for over a decade. Where understanding complexity and concurrency theory are important, and designing lock-free algorithms can be a daily activity. There's very few areas of core CS that aren't used in investment banks.
I was an esoteric derivatives trader at an investment bank making money off clueless clients. We actualy prided ourselves, as a prop desk, on not being client facing. I went in expecting to parse global markets for inefficiency while pioneering the frontiers of 21st century finance. As time went on I found that the firm was content with mediocrity (as it could survive by simply existing in its role) and had no time for risky business like thinking.

You delude yourself into thinking you're inherently superior, a "Master of the Universe", even as you have never been able to explain to your mother what you do. Sooner or later you realise your colleagues are smart but terrifically insecure human beings, valuing their roles for who association with the firm's name makes them rather than what they actually do. Thus hierarchy is strictly enforced and innovation rages furiously in quaint, safe areas, e.g. introducing "new" leveraged/inverse hedged swaps, while ignoring fundamental assumptions, e.g. the trading floor should be siloed by product.

The bureaucracy and technical debt, combined with constant turnover in the under-paid operations and IT staff, mean that gaining understanding of the firm's as a whole as of no less than a quarter ago is a Herculean undertaking. And it's worse when you talk about the sales traders - none of them understand their product (they don't need to - the client's the one taking the risk), it's a miracle if they know a few shortcuts in Excel, and every one of them has an opinion on how xyz company (or country) should re-structure without having read a single term sheet or prospectus.

Luckily, there are start-ups that are raging equally furiously but with un-paralleled agility towards the financial sector. Alas, we'll have to find a new slot-in role a la consulting, investment banking, and sales & trading for insecure college graduates without hard skill sets to plump.

Note on recruiting

I've seen some comments tacitly saying Messr Smith should have known what he was getting into when he signed up for the job.

I was recruited by a very charismatic and values-driven MD when I was 19. Our desk merged with the rest of the firm's shitty culture when he was fired for being too ambitious. I didn't join for the six-figure salary - I turned down other offers that paid more at the time. There are lots of other people I know, brighter than I am, who were similarly drawn to the thought of a dynamic work-day filled with brilliant, ambitious people all working to solve difficult problems (that could be a tech company's recruiting ad...). Maybe I should have been more clairvoyant, but in the end what drives people to finance and what drives people to tech isn't all that dissimilar - the unique cultures change like to unlike from there.
It's not going to duplicate SV, but it does make the world a lot smaller. You could organize regular visits from local digeratii and VC's, surely better than being on the other side of the world in a different timezone where your most useful interaction is with the local grocer.
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But if you lift the curtain behind that statement, what they really care about is their own success.

>"... if we serve our clients well, our own success will follow."

Then a few lines below, they essentially define what success looks like for them and say that profitability critical to achieve those goals. It seems like that profits are a more direct way to achieve "success" for them.

> "Profitability is critical to achieving superior returns, building our capital, and attracting and keeping our best people"

This should serve as a reminder that you can talk, talk, and talk some more, but ultimately, you need to "walk the walk" for your words to carry a significant impact.
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On the contrary, it is vitally important.

Go 1 was a stabilization of what we already had, not an occasion to introduce new features.

If Go gets generics it will have a profound effect on the language and its libraries. better to introduce them in Go 2 once we know what they are and have a wealth of experience with them.
It's probably all true, but the piece reads like an extended resume. If only I could get NY Times to let me rant about how ethical I am and what trillion-dollar clients I advised.
This is definitely a change in the startup scene. If successful, other incubator will start copying it, making the whole experience better for founders. Good stuff.