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But the underlying information - your social interactions and personal communications - are not new. An employer could ask for your email history, banking information, etc. Should that be illegal as well? What about background checks, credit history check, etc?

My only point is that I don't see why there needs to be a special exemption for social networking data, if the predatory behavior is already illegal b
Please, don't mix up the "French" with their (our) president ...

Many French people disagree with the "always-in-the-moment" laws of the president. So please, don't try to see a cultural thing where it is not.
I suppose the largest things I've done is a meme website in PHP which displays an image, forward and back, and a random button, and an upload script; all integrated into MySQL. A football game in Pascal which uses 1 2 3 as user input, and a goal keeper which generates 1 2 or 3, if the input is the same as the goal keeper, then the ball is saved, else you score. And I did a text based adventure game in Python.
Anecdote: I rewrote an operating system (back when people did things like that) to repackage it as a library of modules (kernel, drivers, services) that self-configured on each boot.

It took 19(!) tries to get past the 1st line of code in the entry point module.

There is no such thing as a trivial change (tho that was sure not trivial). My mantra is: "If you haven't tried it, it doesn't work" We all know that, deep down. We tell stories over dinner of the time something worked on the first try. Why? Because that hardly ever happens.
I fail to see anything wrong with targeting perceived likes of a segment of the population

Right, that's the crux of it (and I should have pointed out that I meant a "bad thing in tech", rather than a bad thing overall). The problem is that this "segment of the population" excludes women.

Now, it's true that tech is very heavily male-dominated, but if we want to change that then we have to make anticipatory changes, rather than reactionary ones. We should have advertising that includes a larger segment of the population, rather than the one we have now.
It wasn't offensive for girls featured in the video (or why did they?), yet it's immediately offensive for some random stranger on the net who then proceeds to command its removal. If something is gross here, this is.

P.S. Objectification is a kind of strange word. Human body is an object. It's physical, materialistic.
Now, if there would be objectification of human soul (or whatever other thin layer) that where we would start to worry, but there isn't.
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I have always considered that when I hit this point of frustration that I'm talking about. It feels like it's the only variable I've not taken into account.
Those poor objectified men. It must be horrible to be portrayed as powerful, capable, and striving for dominance.

Edit: which is not to mean that the entire gender stereotyping thing doesn't hurt men — of course it does — but there's a world of difference between what it does to men and women.
You gave them access to your account, and were surprised they used it?
Those are two very different arguments.

Are you saying that they simply made the wrong ad for their tech audience(easier to agree with for a moment) or that they made some huge moral blunder(more difficult to agree with, also the argument by the lady who started the conv).
How is he "throwing around" this term? He's specifically talking about the iPad 3. Apple uses this marketing term to signal to the purchaser that they are going to get a certain pixel density. I see retina display, I know I will get a "good looking" display by Apple's standards. If I trust Apple, it means something. That's the purpose of marketing and branding. So what if your phone also has the same pixel density?

Do you have a problem with marketing in general? Is it a problem that Audi makes quattro cars or that Volkswagens have 4motion or BMWs have cars with 'x' in the model number? They only signify 4WD after all.

BTW, iPhone 4 is a 3.5 inch 640×960 resolution (326 ppi). N900 is 3.5 inch 800 × 480 resolution (267 ppi). Not that it matters either way.
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You can go around looking to be offended or you can take charge and lead. It's easier to be offended.
The post-WW2 West German constitution was written at the behest of the Americans, the British and the French. That should serve as to some hint of why it came out looking so American and French.
Is it only the fact that they're scantily clad?

Do women also find the fact that only women actors are used in cleaning commercials "fucking gross"?
FIWI, I have personally not heard of a single one of those companies.

To continue the OP's concept, these are likely companies with employee counts in the single or double digits, whereas closed source companies have employees in the 5-6 digit ranges, reinforcing the "I'm not smart enough to get paid writing open source" concept the OP presented.
There is a higher moral ground than just what is legal, and what people are willing to do for money.
> The actual root sexism isn't the story here. It's a story about PR, or about making- and dealing with- complaints.

Agreed. I'm kind of amazed how far it went. Regardless of if you think she was in the right or wrong in her arguments, Kane stayed reasonably on target with her comments while Sanz & co hung themselves.

At some point in time you have to throw a bucket of water on the situation instead of letting it turn into a wildfire. Even if it didn't necessarily start as a PR or customer support issue, it quickly became one, and you kind of have to recognize when that happens. Especially when you're talking about issues relating your company to people on something like twitter (i.e., a super public place where your words have some permanence and reach).
The French (and I'd say Europe in general) have a very different view on what "free speech" entails compared to the USA.
Excellent points. At the company that I work for, rigorous testing is an absolute necessity. Our web applications are critical to our users' business and any significant bugs in production is not acceptable. We have unit tests, selenium tests AND manual testing that goes on before any release.

As you mentioned, in the early stages of a product, bugs in production may be tolerable especially when you're not sure you have a viable product. However, once you hit a significant user base that is paying for the service, service disruptions from bugs can really hurt business.

Obviously we're not trying to be NASA, but I would say we spend 25-30% of our development time writing tests.
Many people can't see any difference between a snippet of code from the Linux kernel allocator and a MySQL SELECT statement. That doesn't mean there isn't a difference, just that they aren't educated on the matter. Same deal here. Studies have shown substantial and harmful differences in how people respond to the two scenarios above.
I think it might be instructive to think of what the world was like before the idea of letting people who create intellectual products maintain some ownership of (and therefore be more able to make a living from) their work:

- Serfdom was still legal in most of Western Europe.

- Professional artists occupied the same social rung as prostitutes.

- An intellectual professional's primary option for making a living off his (that pronoun being sufficient for the era) work was patronage.

- The vast bulk of intellectual output served the primary purpose of glorifying the political and religious Powers that Be.

Of course that doesn't imply that the current copyright and patent law isn't enormously out of hand, or that it doesn't largely function to the detriment of creative professionals thanks to the grotesque ways in which it has been amended over the past three or so centuries. But the basic idea is admirable, and it can and should be salvaged.
"They're paid for it, there is nothing illegal about it"

Ah, Hacker News, where all ethical questions boil down to "were they paid?" and "is it illegal?".
Particularly right now. I can see using your service for the convenience factor, but I can't imagine a lot of companies or contractors being willing to accept a 10% surcharge on everything.

I'd consider making your costs more fixed if possible.
If you want to code more than anything...find code you are passionate about. Think of a small project you want to work on and learn what it takes as you go along. Just reading text books won't really teach you how to program. Finding something you are passionate about will allow you to fight through the challenges you run through.

When I was in elementary/high school, I got into programming purely through an interest in reverse engineering and writing hacks and bots for online games. My interest in it allowed me to get through reading assembly and complex C++ memory injection code that was way beyond me at the time and learn from it.

Reading and understanding large code bases is not an easy thing. When I started my first job at a very large enterprise software company working on a 20+ year old massive code base, I had some serious anxiety when I first looked through the code. But take your time exploring it and trying to understand it, look things up as you go along, and you will eventually start to understand it.

Write some code with a purpose!
When people talk about 'the objectification of women,' they're not talking about the dictionary definition of the word objectification. It's shorthand for sexual objectification.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_objectification
I've watched the video ... if that is sexist, then what about this perfume commercial with a half naked Matthew M McConaughey? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL83sQG8fFA

Or all those commercials with half naked men aimed at selling male underwear to women (so their man will look just as good).

Is that sexism too? Why does nobody cry about that type of sexism?

Guess what I'm asking, in general, why is sexism towards women so horrible and sexism towards men is simply accepted as the way things are?
That is a detail needing cultural adjustment, but the concept is universal.

For example, here in Israel most high-tech jobs include ZeroCater-esque food plans, so (without significant spending) buying food for your team would probably result in a worse meal for everyone. However, buying your team snacks and drinks on special events was standard practice at my last job.
> The police are not going to risk their necks climbing up a power line to take out a ~$30 transmitter

But the power company might want to knock down a device that's stealing their service.
"Do women also find the fact that only women actors are used in cleaning commercials "fucking gross"?"

It's not gross in the same way, but yeah, that is a great example of sexism!
Drama on twitter? Surely not!
are you in a city with PHP/python /ruby usergroups/Meetups or hackerspaces or maybe coffee shops where people hang out and code? It's hard to code for extended periods in isolation
Jacques is stating the obvious here. I see testing code and running code in an organic relationship, like the flesh and the shell of a lobster, wrote more about it in here http://www.douban.com/note/205412385/
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Morally, I don't know what a good argument against using scantily clad women as advertising objects is - historically, scantily clad women have been used in advertising for thousands of years, and I think that's kind of the object of that particular advertising, and in some instances (Axe body spray), it probably works.

There's a wide margin between booth babes and sexual harassment, and conflating the two leads to people getting the wrong idea about sexuality, where to draw the line, and modern feminism.

I don't think you'll ever be able to take the objectification of women out of society, and I don't know if it's necessary to try - we've seen women begin objectifying men in some capacity in the last seventy-five years or so, and I don't know if that's necessarily an unhealthy thing. Better to let that objectification be out in the open than keep it locked up in your head.
Everyone certainly isn't, but feminists tend to feel that stereotypically gendered depictions of men are as wrong as those of women, if not always as damaging. It gets passed over in mainstream discussions, but it's definitely a good thing to talk about.
Definitely agree with the non-native UI point. I've been using Photoshop for years on my Macbooks, and the interface has always had a clunky, slow, unnatural, and Flash-era feel to it. I wonder what the reasoning behind using this terrible UI vs Cocoa is?
my boss, the owner of the company, had me explain my job to him at least 3 times during my time there. He was the one that hired me and still didn't know exactly what I did.

It was extremely frustrating when he asking me to do graphic design work and he didn't understand why it wasn't part of my job (I was hired as a developer, I wrote their entire e-commerce system which ran their business for 4 years).
This is not a legitimate counter-argument. The use of women in advertising, and our social treatment of women in general, has negatively affected most women's ability to be treated professionally and respectfully. The use of fit, shirtless men in advertising does little to hold men back in general.
I appreciate rational talks on sexism and discussions -- but if I wanted to read articles with juvenile titles like "OH HAI SEXISM" and that deal with drama on twitter, I would go read TMZ.
Releases will be fixed in 2.1 (awaiting app store review right now). Cedar console is supported. The console basically runs `bundle exec rails console`. Is the app you're running console on a rails app? If it's not a rails app you will need to use the run command to run your platform specific console command.
overdramafication because of overbitchiness? boring..
I think that moral judgements are inherently difficult to make on an objective level, because everyone has different morals. It's why I said that her demanding they take it down wasn't actually a great move- clearly, it offends her, but that doesn't actually give her the right to demand them to take it down.

But imagine, for instance, that she tweeted something similar to @playboy. She'd be very unlikely to get a positive response, or really any support from others. But the tech world is not Playboy, we're supposed to be an inclusive community that wants to encourage more women to be involved.

So I guess my answer is somewhere between your two options- they made a moral blunder in the context of the tech community.
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I understand that it sucks, but it's targeted marketing. Same reason the use kids in toy commercials and sports in beer commercials.
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Are you trying to assert that a couple of half-naked women in an advertisement for no reason is analogous to a shirtless man in the context of a masculine activity during a film? I would love to see your reasoning because I believe the context dictates the offensiveness of the message.

Also I can detect the implication that somebody is a hypocrite if they do not sit there and correctly judge every single case of sexism that comes their way. Do you believe that ethical decisions are black-or-white and that you cannot judge one ethical decision unless you have the ability and time to judge them all?
> The rules are not only changing, the entire game is different.

I don't buy it. There have always been revolutions, there have always been ways to offload a lot of work (millennia before machines and computers humanity had slaves).

The most important part of any society hasn't changed -- people haven't changed. We're still pretty much the same animal that roamed the Africa and, unless we start radically modifying our own genome or come up with implants that can actually change our very personalities, the same motives and patterns that permeated our history will remain recognizable in the future. High tech love (or greed, or kindness, or lust...) is not that dissimilar to low tech love. Which is why we can look at Rome or Greece and see our own republics.

BTW we can really look at Rome now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrIEwjgfbYs
> Do women also find the fact that only women actors are used in cleaning commercials "fucking gross"?

I can't speak for women, but I do. I'm tired of men being portrayed in those commercials as buffoons who can't possibly manage household tasks, as well.
If anything I'd say it's grosser.
IANAL, but I don't think it's illegal per say. It's just illegal for the company to consider protected things (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_discrimination_law_i...).

However, if it's a civil matter (i.e. you sue), then you just need "balance of evidence", not "proof beyond reasonable doubt". You'll try to prove that it was a factor, and they'll try to prove that it wasn't. You might argue that at this stage you're be neck and neck with the other candidates (having passed the previous filters), and it's just going to come down to a "gut feeling" from the hiring manager - so they will almost certainly be swayed by anything which they might dislike on your Facebook page. I've a feeling it would be a horrible case to try to defend against.

There's valid reasons for demanding Facebook login details, but if I were an employer I'd use a trusted third party to look for me, and only report things which have been cleared by a legal team. When the Australian government does security vetting, this is how it works - security personal do all the vetting, keep everything private except the "security clearance passed / failed", and can get thrown in prison if they let the wrong information out.
I usually turn mine off, not because the plane will crash, but because it'll waste it's battery looking for a signal from a tower that it can't find. That's actually part of the reason that there's so much variation in cell phone battery life is that if you're in an area of lower reception it'll take more power to transmit back to the tower. If there's no towers to respond a lot of phones (used to anyway, can't confirm 100% if they still do) would try to transmit at maximum power to get a ping back from the tower and start getting a connection to the network.
The difference is the societal context. Women are judged by and valued for their appearance (to the exclusion of other attributes) to an extent that men are not.
So has anyone successfully deployed this on Heroku?
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"Objectification is an attitude that regards a person as a commodity or as an object for use, with little or no regard for a person's personality or sentience."
If you're a model, that's what you do for a living. I mean, they use their body to demonstrate clothing. Where could they get the space to display their personality and sentience here?

If it's okay for them it should also be okay for everyone else, don't see why not.
Nothing is perfect, but there are very different conceptions of citizenship at work.

The proposed one, to which I object, is the capitalist/neoliberal conception of a citizen: a pseudo-"rational" actor in a political and economic war of all against all for the sake of individual and incorporated self-interest in the form of money and property, restrained only by statutory and Constitutional law from attacking their competitors.

I counterpropose the traditional social-democratic vision of citizenship: a partly-emotional actor who participates in collective decision-making to pursue their values and their collective interests, thus enhancing their private life by placing it in a more secure public matrix.

>The other classic that Friedman and co used to point out is the minimum wage.

Funny how everyone listens to Friedman et al when they propose eliminating the minimum wage, collective ownership of commons property, or most social services, but not when they suggested a citizen's income or a negative income tax.
I never intended it to be a counter-argument. I was just pointing out how hypocritical it would be if you don't agree that half-naked men in advertising is as equally sexist and offensive.
Just start an experiment, not a damn startup
I'm going to try Pixelmator again. There's absolutely no reason why this app should need an installer.
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Maybe it's my cynism's speaking but I think this is done on purpose. They know it will be easier to pass some nasty laws after these kind of awful events so they take advantage of the situation and bring up these laws they were maybe already thinking about for some times but wouldn't dare to expose. And boummm security++; democracy--; Job well done.
Reddit couldn't monetize its way out of a wet paper bag full of money.

It's like every effort to try and introduce revenue is taken timidly, like some nervous kid trying to ask out a girl on a first date only to shy away before saying anything. Seriously? You have billions of page views. Figure it out.
Ah that explains it, it's a Python app. Would be cool to get into an interactive Python shell but I'm not sure if Heroku supports that.
You could just slice it into multiple JPGs. It's probably even better for parallel download.
This is almost the best article I have read about Ember.js which is not a compliment in this case because there are so few of them. I dont even mind images for code parts, because of rarity of this content type. I like Ember a lot but it still has a long road ahead, until community matures around it and helps out with more blog posts, examples, tutorials. Best of luck because its cool stuff.
It was also fairly naive. For example, the Founders of America knew nothing about Duverger's Law or Arrow's Impossibility Theorem or most of the rest of modern political science.
Yeah, but the further we take this into the grey area the smaller the leap will be to adding anti-personnel defense capabilities!
Completely agree. People tend to dismiss testing rather than balance the depth of testing that they do. 100% code coverage doesn't mean you've tested every conceivable combination of parameters to a method.

One of the biggest benefits of testing in my mind is improving the design of code. If you have code that is very difficult to test, there is likely something wrong in your design.

Any way you cut it, you need to become knowledgeable about testing to be able to apply it effectively.
Have you talked to women? They're even more concerned with what men look like than we are about them!

The things women talk about in regards to men would put even the manliest of construction workers whistling after every woman on the street to shame.
keymone said:
"overdramafication because of overbitchiness? boring.."

Quoted for posterity.
Very interesting and useful. Thanks!!