skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
The ACES project for green hydrogen and electricity production is currently under construction in Utah:

https://www.deseret.com/2022/5/9/23046910/green-hydrogen-ene...

The project will take that excess solar and wind capacity and through a process called alkaline electrolysis it will separate oxygen and hydrogen from water through 220 megawatt electrolyzers, producing up to 110 tons of hydrogen a day.

It is called green hydrogen because it is derived from renewable power sources.

...

The other “wow” factor of the project is the salt cavern storage reservoirs.

“Those salt caverns will be the largest single storage site for hydrogen, globally,” Ducker said.

He pointed out that the battery storage capacity across the United States sits at two gigawatt hours via lithium ion batteries. The Utah project will have storage for 300 gigawatt hours of energy.

...

The salt domes for storing the hydrogen will be 3,500 feet underground and will be as deep as the Empire State building is tall — about 1,500 feet.

Ducker said the caverns will enable long duration storage of energy and prevent monthly curtailments of solar and wind energy.

Mitsubishi delivered the gas turbine generators for the project a few days ago:

https://power.mhi.com/regions/amer/news/20230727
I hear you! Some of my favourite games, but there's nothing available these days =(
When they do pass you will have plenty of room to move to the side, unlike if you were already on the side and they run you off the road.
While I agree on the withdrawal symptoms, the main differentiating point for me is that drinking coffee doesn't waste time. Marijuana consumption is one of the most unproductive things to do for leisure. I don't do alcohol for the same reason, it's a massive waste of time. Both render the consumer functionally useless for hours, and, if you're older, assures that the next day will be extremely unpleasant.

There's also a big difference on a social level. Have you ever had a pothead as a roommate? The entire house smells like a garbage dump 24/7. Whereas freshly ground coffee actually smells good. Coffee addicts only bothered me with their unwashed V60s lying around in the sink.
Do you see both sides of this issue?
More remodel railroad than practical, but I guess why not ?

But seriously there are ways to extract a bit more power from this with less complications and a simpler design. But, this does make a nice video, which I am sure is the real reason for this project.
Maybe if you're going to go down the road of buying illegal substances you're not going to pick the one that is highly addictive, gives you lung cancer and makes you smell like a chimney in exchange for almost no discernable difference in how you feel? Maybe there are better trade-offs at that point, such as cocaine, mdma, ketamine, lsd, etc?
When evaluating these policies, it's worth keeping in mind that it may not be a choice between "Drug Sickness versus Normal Productive Citizen", but instead a balance of "Drug Sickness versus Prison Inmate".

Sure, a person imprisoned for drug-use may be "out of sight, out of mind", but--even ignoring ethical/moral issues--the raw financial cost of that incarceration is still there, and could be might higher than whatever was being spent before in trash-removal or patrols or whatever.
The reality is also that the "holy shit" moment around LLMs seems to have largely passed. Models are incrementally improving, sure, but the fundamental limitations are here to stay (at least for now). That means a long tail of adding guard rails, etc.

At the end of the day, the value add is also around integration and implementation and that is very difficult to generalize.
Amen.

Even an LLM enabled senior engineer was 100x better, the situation has to be the right one where all 100x can be applied productively.

An analogy -- if I am an athlete who runs a mile 100x faster than my competition, does that mean that my country will win 100x more medals at the Olympics? Not unless I compete in every competition.

Now, if you can make a system that consistently creates or recruits (or even just prevents your competition from finding) more productive developers you can get a real advantage. And, as soon as you do it you will have people imitating your strategy and tactics and poaching the people who are most important to building the system. It is way more complex than providing an LLM.
Beavers build dams when they hear running water. The civil engineers can just play the sounds of running water where they want the dams built.
As a pioneer banker hell bent on decimating the entire population of bison on the Oregon Trail, and yet only being allowed to take 100 pounds of meat and leave the rest as a warning to the other animals, I and my Apple II approve this message.
That's nothing compared to Tokyo and Osaka. The train arrives within 20 seconds of its scheduled time, the doors open for about 10 seconds, and 3 seconds after the doors close the train starts moving again.
As long as the stock goes up, no-fin-body cares.
I am quite sure that e.g. heroin/opium gives mental health problems.

But ye more effort should be put into making peoples' lifes better rather than going after the symptoms.
that's sad :(
It's a movie about changing the world by calculating equations and understanding how they describe reality.

Of course it is empowering for STEM people.
> And it's a stimulant.

It's not even that. It's just blocking the receptors that tell your brain that it's tired.

You are still exactly as tired as you were, you just don't feel it.

It's marginally less dumb than nicotine when ingested routinely.
I’ve built out an end to end automated fix pipeline, it’s getting the bug fixes right, but been having trouble with line number errors.

Looking forward to reading through your docs and repo later tonight to see how you’re addressing issues like this.
Australia doesn't have any close neighbours they are literally an island
Modern Python programming is highly reliable on all sorts of tricks that don't involve interpreting Python code -- all sorts of strap-on JIT compilations, interpreting code in some other interpreter (not Python)... or just compiling Python ahead of time.

Python library functions evolved from being simple and somewhat transparent into hugely complicated environments, possibly with their own interpreters that can be programmed by the same programmer who writes the Python program.

While this is an unguided, hugely inefficient ad hoc process, it is this whole mess. Thus, people who write "Python programs" are actually writing programs in Python + a bunch of crappy unter-languages that operate at or even cross different layers of abstraction. And we still call this "mess" a Python program. Eg. Jinja templates or Nuitka decorators or IPython "magic" or Cython etc.

So, in practical terms, there's a lot of what's going on in a Python program, because often a lot and sometimes most of it isn't written in Python proper, Python is just a kind of entry point to that mess, and is used as a label for a thing that nobody cared to give a proper name.
You are absolutely correct, thank you. I think I was aware of this but didn't account for it in the comment you replied to. I think the point I was making still stands in terms of describing the incremental friction from all these things.
> Strict moderation isn't toxic

SO's toxic moderation isn't strict.

strict
/strɪkt/
adjective
demanding that rules concerning behaviour are obeyed and observed.

Proper moderation for rules can be no more strict than are the rules themselves, and SO's are appallingly slack.

E.g. try and find the rule prohibiting duplicates. Mods have fabricated their own definition: "Questions may be duplicates if they have the same (potential) answers" (verbatim). By which 1+1 is a duplicate of how many does it take to tango.

Using that bogus grounds to close a question that fully follows the delared rules is, yes, toxic.
There's no reason why it couldn't be both: helping some people while harming others, and perhaps having little effect at all on a third group.
I see you have www.atlas.scoutflo.com in your profile. Note that two of your colleagues got warned today about their postings https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36942161 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36944703 I see you follow the same behaviour: account 7 days old, lots of Ask HN submissions. If your goal, or if you are paid, to gain karma to promote that website then you should stop.
You make very interesting points, but I'm having some trouble understanding exactly what you mean.

When you say that at some point in time there will be a shortage, what do you mean, exactly? A shortage of what?

The way I understand capitalism is that shortages, in a sense, don't actually exist in free markets (except temporarily if there are unexpected disruptions), because capitalism is mostly a system of allocating the resources that are available, in the most efficient way that we know of.

Or another way of thinking about it, is that there is always a shortage of almost everything, because we could always take advantage of more resources if they were available.

So what do you mean exactly?
An internet-connected fridge might use a tiny amount of additional electricity (probably a couple watts when active, and much less when idle, which should be most of the time).

But this is dwarfed by the massive improvements in refrigerator efficiency over the last 70 years. A modern refrigerator uses less than a third of the energy of a 1960's-era fridge while also having considerably more space for food.
Important question! I plan to keep the core product free forever because I think it's important in a world of profiteering healthcare. My minimal wish is to make enough to keep it running forever. It costs about $3k a year right now, but I expect I could get these costs down with a couple infra changes. I'm fortunate to have Startup School credits covering a large part of it for the next 10 months. I have ideas for a premium plan that will give extra insights, the ability for users to make money by adding their own affiliate links to things they use, and perhaps adding over a certain number of therapies or adding things in certain categories like test results to their stack. I welcome any ideas as well.
Makes sense. All the old people in my family are buying gummies now.
Khoj provides exactly that; it runs on your machine, none of your data leaves your machine and it has a web interface to chat
I have not found a drink equivalent to a coffee to drink in the morning. This is my psychologic addition.

All these fake coffees (I’m looking at you, chicory root) taste like ash-trays from the grimiest bar in town.
Slightly related: There used to be a DNS server that you could query a TXT record and the response would include the IP of the server that submitted the query. You could use it to debug DNS issues. I thought it was from DNS-OARC but I can't find it anywhere. Does anyone know a way to accomplish this?
Recommended brands? I bought some Blue Bottle decaf and I still didn't like it, but of course there are a lot of variables.
We will turn into AI (or will be killed by AI) way before we run out of resources.
100%. Weed made my life so much better because it helped me be able to enjoy myself in the present.
You don't get flu-like symptoms from quitting gambling. Is gambling not addictive?

Addiction has nothing to do with physical symptoms. It is an urge to engage in a behavior that is damaging.

I think you need to get your definitions straight.
Thank you, I appreciate you sharing some code :)
Tbf, that quote gets thrown around wikimedia every 10 seconds. I wouldn't take the quote too literally.
There are lots of ways to build a monolith that runs great and needs little maintenance and has only a few moving parts. See PHP with Symfony or Laravel for example…
> You sound like my uncle.

Your comment was so much better before that point.
Exactly, OP very clearly didn't live through the Reagan administration and DARE.
Indeed! I'll pile on some of mine just in case:

https://www.youtube.com/@HyperspacePirate

https://www.youtube.com/@AirCommandRockets

https://www.youtube.com/@LesLaboratory

https://www.youtube.com/@harrisonlow

https://www.youtube.com/@michaelrechtin

https://www.youtube.com/@HuygensOptics

https://www.youtube.com/@jdflyback

Not builders per se but really informative still:

https://www.youtube.com/@Lantertronics (great electronics vids, especially analog guitar pedal stuff)

https://www.youtube.com/@machinethinking (machining history)

https://www.youtube.com/@AgentJayZ (in-depth about jet engines)
Whats the energy->hydrogen conversion efficiency these days of processes that don't dump CO2? (aka ones that aren't using Natural gas as the feed-stock).
To be fair it's more like 12 cents per kWh for actual electricity and the other 30 cents for delivery.
I love being left alone with my thoughts, but I'd probably push the button anyway, not out of boredom, but because it's a rare opportunity to see what the infamous psych lab electric shocks are like.
Same here. It's so inscrutable, I'd also assume it was just a weird-looking bench. It honestly looks goofy chained-off, like some kind of modern art installation.
Thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated.

I responded in the issue, but I'll paste here as well for those also curious:

Khoj does not collect any search or chat queries. As mentioned in the docs, you can see our telemetry server[1]. If you see anything amiss, point it out to me and I'll hotfix it right away. You can see all the telemetry metadata right here[2].

[1]: https://github.com/khoj-ai/khoj/tree/master/src/telemetry

[2]: https://github.com/khoj-ai/khoj/blob/master/src/khoj/routers...

Configuration with the `docker-compose` setup is a little bit particular, see the issue^ for details.

Thanks for the reference points for GPU integration! Just to clarify, we do use GPU optimization for indexing, but not for local chat with Llama. We're looking into getting that working.
So they don't have a simulator they run these commands on first?
> If caffeine was illegal you and I wouldn't have acquired such addiction, so there is a very big + to prohibition

This is true, but this argument can be made for anything with downsides.

If cars hadn't been made legal, maybe commutes wouldn't be so bad. If TV hadn't been made legal, maybe people would get out and get more exercise. If the internet hadn't been made legal, maybe fraud would be less widespread.
That's all they're doing, too. They're just hiding it behind a paywall and a bunch of needless abstraction.
My suggestion is: don't worry about karma points. They're useless.
Maybe curl ought to support STUN (if it doesn't already). It's becoming a very common technology now that NAT is so prevalent.
Only if it is accurate. And the vast majority of SO dupe marking fails to accord with any meaning of the word duplicate found outside SO.
I believe it's something to do with a way to self-soothe your pain. A lot of these substances give you a little vacation away from your true self. Marijuana and psychedelics seem to amplify these issues, but people still use them to escape. I think people that use a substance just because they are interested in how it feels, they tend to not fall into the addiction, because they are merely following a curiosity rather than trying to cover up some kind of mental pain.
Even then, that's not too bad. In California, electricity is closer to 30-40 cents per kWh. They're nowhere near hitting anything that could be called "high cost."
This is a euphemistic way of describing what happened when the customer's home country started the "political action" of bombing cities Namecheap staff were based in.

HN discussion including contributions from the Namecheap CEO is here

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30504812
Again batteries smooth over instantaneous demand.

If you really want to model things you need to consider the vast drop off between midnight and 5 am in which that steady state I talked about would be wasted. Batteries don’t really care about when the peak is just the total demand minus power production. And again steady state like nuclear looks terrible by comparison.

Running summer numbers you see an extension in the number of hours the panels are producing which then reduced the gap you need to fill with batteries. Winter sees the reverse as average output drops but conversely batteries are storing a higher percentage of total energy produced. Sizing is further adjusted based on expectations for daily output not hypothetical maximums.

Which of those is more critical depends on local conditions but the grid is always sized for absolute worst case not the average one. There’s lots of micro optimization such as aiming panels East or West to shift production, local hydropower and wind resources etc etc.

None of which is that important compared to the overall effect I was describing where batteries are sized to the daily output not the peak output. The important number is the cost which is running 60$/MWh vs the daily demand not whatsoever the nameplate numbers people love to talk about to make projects seem more important.
I am not worried about logging/lumber. Lumber is a fully renewable resource so really that problem is just a matter of missing regulation in concerned geographic regions. I would be far more worried about over harvesting from the oceans which are far less renewable. Prior models have suggested humans are nowhere near over consumption of land based resources.

I would be far more concerned with decadence. Economic decline that follows the consumption of social capital greater than what a given consumer contributes in return, which typically follows wealth inequality and faulty expectations among the wealth/poverty extremes.

Fortunately, humans have gone through societal collapse a few times, even since eras of written history. It almost always occurs due to many factors occurring simultaneously. It has happened enough that the patterns are identifiable and predictable. Those that survive such periods of instability after accounting for natural disaster, military conflict, and disease tend to be biologically stronger for austere conditions and better at primitive innovation than peers who struggle to survive such. Sometimes the stresses are enough to modify human DNA.
That's 'net load', so the graph doesn't show rooftop or grid solar or wind's contribution.

You can see the difference here for today (choose a previous day if it's near the start of the day in California):

https://www.caiso.com/TodaysOutlook/Pages/default.aspx#secti...

The non-grid PV and wind peak is lowered, and shifted a couple of hours later.

And that graph still doesn't show consumer and behind the meter commercial PV impact. Historically there was a double peak, one of which has been wiped out entirely.
I like ifconfig.me because it returns the IP along with some other little bits of useful information, and works great with curl
Help themselves into smaller vehicles or EV's?
Just thought I would add that Modern != Better. You can still write shite in 'modern' languages and a well written program is that regardless of its language
This will return the wrong results when used behind a load balancer
Yahoo Pipes (or NodeRed) are what I consider “data flow pipelines” editors. These tools have very distinct characteristics: (A) usually a single piece of data or message that (B) flows through a system in one direction with (C) distinct start and end points.

Couple of core differences with what we are building:

(1) Instead of directional data flow, we have reactive data flow. For example, in the simple utility color example, [RGB Sliders] <> [Conversion] <> [HEX Color Wheel] have data flowing bi-directionally where any modules can trigger a change. Users still have the option to decide how data flows, so data flow pipelines are just a subset of what our system can do.

(2) Beyond just data or automation, we focus heavily on UI modules, allowing users to easily express interactive creations.
Imagine biting this same bullet for benzos and opioids.
Other comment chains have explained the storage scale you claim is needed, isn't a great estimate.

Energy conservation is probably a better payback than either nuclear or renewables and better resilience for people infrastructure. For example, better insulation reduces energy costs in both cold winters and heat waves, and reduces the impact if there are grid/source failures by any technology. It also doesn't have a big crossover on the logistics tail of either nuclear or renewables, and so is a great thing to do in parallel to address climate change in general.

"Conservation is an admission of failure" is a purely ridiculous position.
That would be awesome. Let me know when it's out and I'd love to try it out.
Around these parts, true landscapers appear to be a thing of the past, and landscapers are increasingly people coming over from construction, and /construct/ the garden: pour concrete under tiled surface, build wall, stone beams around border, fill with gravel. No biology appears to be entering the equation anymore.
This would be impossible to ban, and even small businesses do it. Imagine if the corner store charged you to park in the car park, charged you to stand in the store, charged you for every staff interaction, if you open the fridge they charge you a small amount for the power you consumed, etc.

IPv4 addressees were once as insignificant as any of these costs, now they aren't, so they are charging for it.
AI manipulation of Assassin's Creed character's voice stokes actors' concerns
In the past, Meta had restricted use of its LLMs to research purposes, but with Llama 2, Meta opened it up; the only restriction is that it can’t be used for commercial purposes. Only a handful of companies have the computational horsepower to deploy it at scale (Google, Amazon, and very, very few others).

If the author can't even get this right, no point engaging with the rest
> Definitely tech corporations. I'd be careful placing my hopes on copyright.

Yes, I expect you're right.

> [...] Think it's unlikely?

The part of your scenario I'm most skeptical of is the part where artists freely contribute their work to AI training sets en masse. Even putting aside the current (admittedly somewhat reactionary) trend of artists being loudly contemptuous of AI tools and (to a large extent) the people who use them, I don't think the incentives for artists to post their work online are quite the same incentives that drive programmers to open-source their work, and I really don't think having your work subsumed into a vast training set where it completely loses its identity is nearly as satisfying (or professionally enabling, for that matter) as being able to show e.g. that your open-source library gets 100k downloads every day and is a critical component of X, Y, and Z popular software packages. Art—especially art created for non-commercial reasons, which is what we're talking about here—is often very personal, and as a result artists crave direct engagement from the people looking at it.

If the hypothetical "community initiatives" you're proposing can make such contributions more rewarding, either by drastically improving attribution on the output side of the model (seems unlikely) or by offering some other incredible value proposition distinct from the "opportunity" to have one's works blended into the AI slurry, maybe. But if the AI industry and community ever do actually start listening to artists and respecting their intellectual property to the point that they are no longer simply taking what they want just because they can, I think it will be an uphill battle to convince artists to freely give the same without compensation.

It seems more likely to me that large AI companies would need to pay artists to contribute to training sets, making themselves and their peers partially or wholly redundant. I don't think that's great either, but at least it isn't bald-faced theft of intellectual property.
> This also can't be patched unless browsers stop allowing websites to style links

This sounds sensible. Color is perhaps the only thing that browsers should be able to control.