skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
ChatGPT was announced November, 2022 - 8 months ago. Time flies.

Question for HN: Where are we in the hype cycle on this?

We can run shitty clones slowly on Raspberry Pi's and your phone. The educational implementations demonstrate the basics in under a thousand lines of brisk C. Great. At some point you have to wonder... well, so what?

Not one killer app has emerged. I for one am eager to be all hip and open minded and pretend like I use LLMs all the time for everything and they are "the future" but novelty aside it seems like so far we have a demented clippy and some sophomoric arguments about alignment and wrong think.

It did generate a whole lot of breathless click-bait-y articles and gave people something to blab about. Ironically it also accelerated the value of that sort of gab and clicks towards zero.

As I am not a VC, politician, or opportunist, hand waving and telling me this is Frankenstein's monster about to come alive and therefore I need billions of dollars or "regulations" just makes folks sound like the crypto scammers.

Please HN, say something actually insightful, I beg you.
Off topic: Mother Theresa wasn't a particularly great person.
>> If aiding religions disappeared, nothing would fill the vacuum - because the vacuum is far from filled now.

>that's a strong claim and and I don't think your reasoning adequately supports it.

This puzzles me. My claim is self-evident. The vacuum of human need exists; only a tiny portion is filled.

Anyone who wants to supplant a religious outreach effort can form up now and achieve the good they seek. In other words, if you want to compete and put religions out of the service game, please do.
CUTE! Easy to use, definitely like it. Asked for a song about a region known for its beautiful seaside escapes. Got a beautiful seaside escape song.
Company finance income streams are rarely ringfenced like that.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis

"The prevailing scientific hypothesis is that the transition from non-living to living entities on Earth was not a single event, but a process of increasing complexity involving the formation of a habitable planet, the prebiotic synthesis of organic molecules, molecular self-replication, self-assembly, autocatalysis, and the emergence of cell membranes. Many proposals have been made for different stages of the process."

You can always start your search on matters like this on Wikipedia.
Ask HN: Seeking Advice on Automating Homesteading for Efficiency
As a full-time IT engineer who embarked on a journey to run a small homestead spanning 2 acres, I've been exploring the rewarding world of self-sufficiency. While my homestead is working out relatively well, I find myself struggling with the scarcity of time. Many homesteading blogs I've come across emphasize investing more time in daily farming routines to achieve greater self-sufficiency. However, I believe that automation might be the key to optimizing my efforts.

I'm interested in exploring automation solutions for various tasks on the homestead, such as setting up watering systems, using drones for monitoring purposes, an automated chicken door. By implementing automation, I hope to free up more time to focus on essential aspects like planning, planting, and harvesting.

If any of you have experience with homestead automation or know of valuable resources, I'd greatly appreciate your insights. I'm particularly interested in the automation-side of homesteading and how it can enhance efficiency and productivity while maintaining sustainability.

Thanks!
Wrong submission about attention.
"From posts here and elsewhere, I have some idea what a 'life' might be, and how I might get one. But, what is this 'offline'?"
> Not one killer app has emerged

ChatGPT itself is a killer app.
Encountered a nonsensical bug that projected my fiance and I would go bankrupt in a year, was not easy to convince my money-anxious partner that it was just the software...
I'm borrowing (pun intended) Rust syntax so that I can skip the parsing phase and focus on the interesting stuff, like type inference and code generation.

So even if it (currently) looks like Rust, it doesn't have any lifetimes nor borrow checking. It's just syntax, but I understand it can be confusing.

I could type an entire essay on "Why not Haskell". I've used it professionally for a few years and came to the conclusion that sticking to a tiny subset of the language (what I used to call Simple Haskell, I even wrote a book about it :D) is the only way to make it work in a large codebase in a team setting.

I've become weary of type astronauts and I don't want to use a language that allows or even promote certain (ab)use of type system features. In this sense, OCaml or even Elm are more inline with what I think is the sweet spot.

Borgo isn't too far off Ocaml to be fair if you squint a bit. Unfortunately OCaml suffers from years (decades?) of cruft that has accumulated over, to the point that even before you get started you have to pick an stdlib implementation. I know things are improving, but you get my point.

Ultimately I think that if a new language wants to be succesful and see some adoption, it has to integrate in an established ecosystem. See Typescript, but also Swift, Clojure, Scala and others.

I'd wish Borgo could do to Go what Typescript did to JS, bringing in additional type safety and modern features that people are starting to get used to from other less popular languages. Admittedly, TS is a bad comparison because of the madness you can encode at the type level, but the fact that it's been compatible with JS from day one is it's biggest selling point imo.
Fun fact: Login spoofing like this is why, from Windows NT on, users have had to first enter a security context with Ctrl+Alt+Del.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control-Alt-Delete
I just had the same thing happen last week.

I’m moving away and selling some of our stuff that we can’t take with us. I have a spare 5G/LTE router that I thought I’d throw up on eBay as well as Facebook Marketplace.

I followed their onboarding process to the letter to create a listing, verify my email and mobile phone, add a bank account, etc.

About an hour later I got an email saying I’ve been “permanently suspended because of activity that we believe was putting the eBay community at risk”.

Apparently doing nothing but following their onboarding process is putting the community at risk. They also tell you that “this decision (that was made 100% by an automated system) was not made lightly”.

Get fucked, eBay.
It has provided me endless entertainment in meat space because I cross my arms to form an "X" every time I talk about X.

Tim Apples even saw this coming and had an emoji in place, Man Crossed Arms.
I’m guessing that he’s asking that they write down/define the definition explicitly that they’re using in articles like this so we have some idea what they’re advocating for or testing/exploring exactly.
That would actually be an amazing thing for a Flordia teacher to do.
At least there's competition, like Mastodon for the Twitter-like approach and Lemmy or Kbin for something more Reddit-like. I'm thinking these are our best way out if Usenet can't be rebooted.
Frédéric covers Azure OpenAI Landing Zone design and service integration for AI workloads. Network security, monitoring, and Azure Landing Zones for AI implementations are covered.
In the US, it's because of federal subsidies. Air travel is federally subsidized, to get airlines to maintain air travel to less populated areas. Otherwise the flyover states would literally just be flown over.

Air travel is subsidized, airlines pay to use but do not pay for airports. Highways and gas are subsidized, drivers pay tolls, but drivers and car manufacturers don't have to directly pay for all road maintenance. Railways are subsidized, but nowhere near to the same extent.

The Federal government has subsidized Amtrak 30 Billion over the last 30 years. It's subsidized freight rail some, and Amtrak and other services can use those rails, but freight trains have priority. It's subsidized air and highway travel by 1.89 trillion, including around 1 trillion to build most of the airports you see today.
Ask HN: Finetune LLMs with data or use RAG?
For AI applications built for businesses that would be enhanced by industry vertical specific knowledge, which would be the better approach - finetuning the model on ground data or using retrieval augmented generation?

Would like to hear the community's thoughts re: benefits and concerns.
I suspect battery life is a big one. Airpods are what, 3-5 hours? Hearing aids can last a few days.
I use e-mail with the invoice attached as a PDF for sending invoices, and I receive all my invoices in this way also.
> currently such Android devices contain Google adware and spyware, which is definitelly not necessary for a trusted device to be used for payments.

That's exactly the thing, this integrity api only means the deviced is controlled, not secure, that's two very different things. You can have a phone riddled with pre-installed malware passing the safety net and you can have EOS, the cleanest rom that I know about which can fail it.
> There was a program that would sort of melt your screen.

This existed for PCs, too. It was called "drip". When idle, individual characters would "drip" down your screen like raindrops, at random times, for random distances.

Another one I remember was "drain". In the very early PC days, you could add this program to the AUTOEXEC.BAT of an unsuspecting victim's computer, so that it would run at startup. It would start flashing "SYSTEM ERROR 0304-B" for a moment, then add "Water detected in disk drive A:". Another moment, then "Now draining", and it would play this gurgling sound out of the speakers (as best you could, on the speakers of the original PC). That would peter out, then "Now starting spin dry cycle", and it would play this whining sound for a bit, ramp that down, and then tell you that it was OK to use the system now.

In those days, there weren't "logins" to PCs. If you saw a PC without the normal user present, you could do anything to it.
It’s in part a philosophical question as well. In part because in the West we have a strong Protestant history we are tied to the myth of bettering through time. This has been expressed starkly by “providence” which eventually minimized (and then abandoned) the Christian aspect and turned into “progress”. This is our defining narrative myth today.

I suspect because the advancements in technology have been so distinct that we’ve generalized into everything. It’s all about getting positive recognition from future people because the people of the past embarrass us. This is why people don’t generally ask “what would the people of yesterday say about us people of today?”. Especially interesting since we owe a gratitude to them.
> random chemical processes

You're begging the question here. How do you know it was random and not inevitable?
So these school districts bought a $250 computer 7 years ago, and are complaining that Google won't continue to support it with free software updates?

I'm sorry but phrasing it as "jeopardizing students’ educations" is dishonest and manipulative. Not even Apple has support periods that long, and they sell $1000+ devices.

Plus you can easily install a Linux distro on Chromebooks and extend the life yourself.
>As unpleasant as these right-wing figures are, do you really think that any of them are truly genocidal or likely to engage in military conquest? (and therefore genuinely worthy of comparison with the Nazis)

Haven't some of them been clamouring for an attack on Mexico recently?

Anyway, there are worse figures than Tucker Carlson on Twitter. Some are outright nazis. Others can name them if they wish, but I won't amplify them here.
Odd example, only a small handful of states restrict 50 BMG rifles e.g. "high powered sniper rifles", and basically none restrict the normal sort of rifles that would normally be used by snipers. You can even go over 50 calibre with a background check and a tax stamp.

Even with plastic explosives, basically anybody who isn't a fugitive, convicted felon or a drug user is allowed to get a federal license for explosives.
It’s that, but with the efficiency of violent competition to ensure things develop more coherently.
A single customer might not have any effect, but if many of them do the same, it could. Don't give up just because your individual contribution is negligible.
>"Software running on OpenBSD can clearly use AVX, but the kernel and core OS doesn't yet, which security wise seems to be the smart move."

That's not accurate. OpenBSD does use AVX, it's just very minimal.

What's the "smart move" then here? That OpenBSD just never got around to implementing AVX more thoroughly?

If you're implying that OpenBSD had always considered AVX a security issue, then why are they still having to patch for it (and why did they adopt some use of it)?

Skimming through various OpenBSD mail list, I can't find any past threads discussing their concerns about AVX prior to ZenBleed.

https://www.openbsd.org/mail.html
Cool to see Projection Lab on HN! If I recall, I've heard you on the the FI show and read on the MadFientist a while back? I come back to play with it every few months and dropped by just this past Sunday. I haven't dove in yet just because my finances are very simple, but I wouldn't be surprised if I dove in to start planning drawn down strategies in the next few.

I'm constantly amazed by how much detail in each option there are. Really cool work and just wanted you to know you that you've made some really impressive software.

Hopefully I'll be a customer soon when I stop being cheap and need more planning!
They could just be more regulated like the power grid - which isn't perfect, but it's also fine.
EU passes law to blanket highways with fast EV chargers by end of 2025
So? Is using Chrome better? What is your recommendation?
Safari 17 Link Tracking Protection
You think that land would be inhabited if it had commuter trains? You think the large cities which require a dense population for tax collection and often act as the hub for these transportation networks, perhaps have an incentive to fight nationalization and expansion of publicly held lands into housing developments?

Roosevelt set aside hundred of millions of acres of land not for eternal preservation, but for future development by generations that would otherwise not had land considering the industrial barons of his time would have completely demolished it.
I don’t see what you did wrong, it must have been the algorithm change. My parents had a business that was killed by a Facebook algorithm change. My brother took a significant hit from an Amazon algorithm change. Building a business around any of the big tech companies seems very risky.

I think Google search has just declined a lot. I guess they’re losing the constant cat and mouse game with SEO. It seems worse than it has ever been, I’m relying more on ChatGPT and copilot now.

I can only imagine that LLMs will be the end of any content based search ranking. I don’t know how they’ll adapt to that.
Its more like no-man's sky crossed with world of warcraft.

What Medevievia gets right is in the details. For example, they aren't the first game to have interesting and deadly weather that the player has to navigate. They aren't the first game to have the player travel long distances. They aren't the first game to implement hauling goods between far flung outposts.

But in my opinion these 3 mechanics are implemented to intentionally interact and be balanced in such a way as to make the experience of trading goods and traveling in the world feel just right.
Which is why you'd use HttpOnly along with the SameSite=Strict and Secure attributes.

This would prevent an attacker from both sniffing and performing operations on behalf of the user via XSS.
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> My 2010 x86 MBP still receives MacOS updates

Not from Apple it doesn't. The latest MBP to officially run macOS Mojave, which came out in 2018, is a 2012 model: https://support.apple.com/kb/sp777?locale=en_US

macOS High Sierra was the last one to support 2010 MacBook Pros: https://support.apple.com/kb/sp765?locale=en_US
Ask HN: Examples of 'Manual' Start Ups?
In PG's 'Do things that don't scale' essay he talks about manual start ups 'being' the software in the early stages before automating the process once you have a deep knowlege of the process and enough demand. He gives the example of stripe manually adding users to 'instant' merchant accounts. I was wondering if anyone had any other good examples to share?
A reminder that the famous photos of Nazi book burnings were mostly burning Hirshfield's research into the lives of trans people.
> People who want to churn devices should be paying a premium for any and all recycling costs

Not just people who churn, eveybody. If you live in the state of California, you already do.
I would like to think that the likelihood of being able to find a juicy target using one of these specific CPUs and who would have explicitly not updated their microcode for this exploit is much much much higher going after end users on the web than by attacking organized VPS providers.
Yeah, but then they're editorializing.

And not in a generic “this kind of content is bad for our users” but very specifically “site x.com is bad for our users.”
I tried writing code to simulate the "Monkey's typing on a keyboard === Shakespeare" concept.

It was a simple "hello world", and then with only the characters needed for the program. I didn't see it spit out any usable code when I played with it.

But even if it had, it still wasn't able to run without my code existing already... (and the environment I coded it in)
So-called "Mother Theresa" should not be used as an example of extreme good. She's more accurately described as an example of extremely good PR.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Mother_Teresa
> There are tribal societies that have been stable for tens of thousands of years.

With which average lifespan and enduring what pain? What was the solution for, say, a tooth going south?

Medicine was ugly back then. Between 1% to 1.5% of all the woman giving birth would die while doing so in 1600. Something insane like that. We've literally gone down at least 30x.

Also back then women couldn't really decide whether they'd become pregnant or not.

At 17 years old or so I got a medical emergency: doctor diagnosed an appendicitis that was missed a few days earlier for I was under strong painkillers. When it was diagnosed a few hours later I was undergoing surgery.

In 1600 I could very well have died of peritonitis / infection without the surgery. I see all those years I lived since then as pure win, thanks to modernity.

It comes at a cost but I live better than any king has ever lived (except for those who live/lived in modern times).
Yes you are correct. In case it isn't clear, I didn't write a GC myself, I'm just transpiling to Go and letting the Go compiler and runtime doing the heavy lifting.

> Rust without lifetimes sounds wonderful

This is the kind of comment I was hoping to see. Borgo is higher level than Rust and can massively benefit from simplifying certain parts of Rust for ease of use and better ergonomics.
About as killer as that twitter clone that was in the news for a minute after forcing people to use it and immediately losing 90% of the captive audience..

They have been losing users. Summer is here, school is out, the kids are back in reality for the moment and apparently when they aren't busy plagiarizing homework the interest is very limited.
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Our recent blog post explains the architecture behind XtraBackup streaming and how the new FIFO enables true data transfer parallelism.
HN is funded as an ad.
Only half a solution without an iOS client.
How can he build an everything app when he fired a good portion of the engineering team? He will need to hire more people which seems antithetical to his original plan. An everything app will cost a lot of money which is going to put Twitter in an even bigger hole.
I think 8 months is a little short for the utility of a new tech to be fully realized and utilized. I'm pretty sure there were still horses on the roads long after 8 months after the Model T first went on sale.
I spent most of the 90s writing Clipper code, used to hang out in comp.lang.clipper lots too. Do still sort of miss it.

https://harbour.github.io/ does exist, although it’s a long while since I last played with that.
This seems like a rite of passage... I did the same thing with the VAX at my school, but decided to come clean and gave the sysadmin all the passwords I gathered after one day (including several with SYSTEM privileges). They gave me my first job :-). I also made sure to grant the necessary permissions to one or two obscure accounts, so that I could regain SYSTEM when it was revoked on my "official" accounts. Fun times, and innocent too -- I never used the privileges to cause havoc.
> add true and false keywords.

Quality of life... !
Migrating Fediverse Servers
This will not age well.
Apple trademark the word Apple.
It would reduce the number of fraudulent clicks and non-human views, but then if you can verify the eyeballs and cursor on the other side are human, presumably that would increase the cost per impression and per click, so it may increase revenue.
> The model's growing size makes it better at guessing the outcome of a reasoning task, but little to no actual reasoning is performed.

If there's no observable difference between the behaviours, why not call it as the post did?

> LLMs will still fail miserably at (larger) math problems

They're neither trained on such problems, nor is that a goal for LLMs. They can however tell you how to convert that problem into steps that can be run in an algebra system.
> How did people become expert in 6 months? I am really curious about this one. Any clue?

It is because they have something to sell you.

> There aren't any significant achievements. The ideas are more or less the same from 2017/2018 only scaled up.

This exactly.

It is by the grifter class who need to push the snake-oil as fast as they can. They are not building improvements on top of the paper, but are just throwing more compute power, tweaking parameters and most are just prompting their way to sell you something.

This is why you have a flurry of so-called 'experts' hyping about LLMs as if they are a new thing, but the hype came from the way it was packaged, like ChatGPT.

> But some write with confidence as if they are the guru? Where does this confidence come from?

Hype and over-promising to unsuspecting users who don't care about how it works or what the limitations or risks are.

These fake gurus and experts pontificating about LLMs are only doing it to kickstart their grift to VCs and sell their snake oil to the desperate. For example, Neeva.ai (founded by ex-Googlers) wanted to beat Google in the search engine race with LLMs but failed, despite being heavily VC funded.
Who really cares what names the glasses in bars have? Canada, Australia and New Zealand all use the metric system, and all sell pints of beer in their pubs. Australia and Canada also sell schooners of beer, which come in 425ml and 946ml sizes respectively (where a schooner is 103ml in the UK).

No matter what system a country uses, there’s nothing stopping a bar from selling 568ml portions of beer, and giving you one of those when you order a pint.
Docker is not a VM. It uses the same kernel as the host