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You touch in an important topic here, how our understanding of AI/ML/LLMs will influence our "understanding" of the human brain and intelligence.

My fear is that we will ascribe too much human behaviour to that we see in and understand of our AI inventions, and that this will result in the dehumanisation of people.

So essentially my fear is what we justify doing to each other due to AI, rather than what "AGI" could do to us.
I hated to see that. One of the few forums that's still around from my youth is one of the original MMA forums that was almost like "Facebook for MMA". People like Dana White, Bas Rutten, Joe Rogan, Enson Inoue and many more posted there on a somewhat regular basis until the social media takeover. The forum is still around but barely active.
Rather than post a top-level comment, I'll just tell you here that your content is _so good_ and I really appreciate what you're doing.
Any kind of company that starts out as a managed service and then moves to a self-serve platform/SaaS (my company right now)
For me, it basically represents going back to the days of telnet and X Windows with a development server shared by the whole team, only with another set of tools for the same purpose.
There should be a way to submit to those 70 in one click, that would be worth it
Imagine a molecule that can create identical copies of itself from some other molecules floating around; not by any "factory" but just by "lego mechanics". This is more or less what prions do.

At some point a slightly different molecule appears which is better at converting the molecules, or perhaps they can convert other types of molecules for replication: the first evolutionary step. Perhaps some other mutation allows molecules to "harvest" the other molecules to replicate themselves: the first predators.

Over time this becomes more complex; from singular molecules and proteins to lots of molecules and proteins.

I don't know what Von Neumann "showed us", but IMHO it's not hard to imagine life starting from very simple and humble origins given the enormous timeframes involved (IMO the biggest challenge in understanding these sort of things is understanding just how long a million or 10 million years is, insofar we're even able to do that in the first place).
I'm pretty much certain the cost of training and running large LLMs is going to come down, because it's only a matter of time before truly customized chips come out for these.

GPUs really aren't that. They're massively parallel vector processors that turn out to be generally better than CPUs at running these models, but they're still not the ideal chip for running LLMs. That would be a large even more specialized parallel processor where almost all the silicon is dedicated to running exactly the types of operations used in large LLMs and that natively supports quantization formats such as those found in the ggml/llama.cpp world. Being able to natively run and train on those formats would allow gigantic 100B+ models to be run with more reasonable amounts of RAM and at a higher speed due to memory bandwidth constraints.

These chips, when they arrive, will be a lot cheaper than GPUs when compared in dollars per LLM performance. They'll be available for rent in the cloud and for purchase as accelerators.

I'd be utterly shocked if lots of chip companies don't have projects working on these chips, since at this point it's clear that LLMs are going to become a permanent fixture of computing.
I'd be interested in seeing this if anyone could link me.

Speaking of other invoicing software, does anyone know what generates those ASCII invoices you'll receive occasionally? The 80-column ones that look like a shell script that got piped to lpr? Just wondering if there was a common piece of software that was getting used for these or if everyone's IT dept hacked something together that produced approximately the same output.
Thanks to the bridge between the countries, it's only like a one hour car ride between the two universities. Both of them are also part of the region Øresund/Öresund which has lots of collaboration between the two countries, because of the proximity between the two. Jokingly called "Greater Copenhagen Region" sometimes as the pull on the region from Copenhagen is stronger than the pull from the Swedish counterpart Stockholm.
> At the end of the day, users will just see that a website works in Chrome and not in Firefox. Firefox will decide that there is no point in apposing it if there is a real cost in potential market-share.

Remind me, how has that strategy worked out for their market share? Perhaps the market for I-Can't-Believe-It's-Not-Chrome isn't actually that big since those users don't have a problem with just using Chrome.
FTA: Why does the StopTheMadness extension want to disable input field max length? That’s a very useful feature for developers to give instant feedback to the users. I get it: a minority of people have 64+ char email addresses, but if you know the server is going to reject the POST, why not stop it before the submit?
No one needs to play video games but people ultimately do need to pass time in many cases. Doing something that challenges you or engages with an artist's ideas is rewarding. You need to eat. You don't need to eat with the intention to experience the food.

Again, I don't think dark souls is the emblematic, archetypal, or only direction for artistic video game design by any means. But it's at least something. From the lens of challenging yourself or exploring art, diablo has nothing for the majority of it's playtime in end game where you've seen everything and are just thinking about the numbers imo.

That's not an objective view, but man it sure seems underwhelming otherwise.
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Even weirder, https://anpost.ie redirects to https://www.anpost.com/

So apparently the Irish Post Office wants to be seen as an international player?
RISC-V Lichee Pi 4A vs. VisionFive 2 vs. HiFive Unmatched vs. Raspberry Pi 4B
lol, now who’s demented? Everyone I know uses it. It even diagnosed a problem with my pool filter among dozens of other uses I find for it. I like it and use it more than Google and stack overflow now. Losing the school crowd for the summer isn’t the beginning of the end, it just means there’s a cohort that doesn’t need it as much for a few months while they’re out having fun instead of stuck inside writing papers and doing math problems.
I never really liked StackOverflow. The only questions they seem to allow are “How do I get the length of a string in Python?”. Most of the problems where I am scratching my head and really need the benefit of somebody’s experience are software selection problems that aren’t allowed.

The competing answers paradigm is also fundamentally broken, I don’t want to see 15 answers to “How do I get the length of a string in Python?” I just need to see

len(x)

Programming splogs do better than SO does in this respect. In fact, even the Q/A paradigm is bad because the average SO post requires scrolling past at least one extensive code example that does not work,

For more than 10 years I thought the world needed a search engine for programmers. You really ought to be able to upload your POM file or equivalent and have the system automatically search the correct version of documentations. (Any attempt to look up things in the Java manual has to be written like “JDK17 javadoc {className}”; Javascript libraries like reactstrap, react-router and such often have a few wildly incompatible versions and I don’t want to waste a millisecond with the wrong version doc, …)

I wouldn’t mind searching answers from stackoverflow but I only want the best correct answer and I don’t want to read a long confused question, etc. As this would clearly save coders time maybe they’d pay for a subscription as they do for Jetbrains tools.
Oh, that's quite nice, thank you. Definitely an improvement and an excellent basis for further tweaking to get it Just Right.
And they weren't distracted by/staring at screens all day long.
> I ran a local NNTP relay on my home phone back in the day. I recall spending quite a bit of time filtering out a lot of the binary groups.

There was a very nice, easy-to-use NNTP server that was intended for small sites with few users, called leafnode. It is in a mature but still-maintained state. https://www.leafnode.org/status.shtml

I ran it on a laptop so I could slurp up my newsgroups and read them on the train with tin.
Those are outrageous requests. The very effective sanctions are a large part of their non-military punishment.
And yet, you still don't understand a single thing, and just want to argue. Which seems to be common for you, based on your comment history.

So here, in elementary bulletpoint recaps of this conversation.

A) all USB-C ports are physically capable of handling Thunderbolt. There's no such thing as a Thunderbolt USB-C.

B) the most recent Framework laptop is Thunderbolt certified and tested, so your USB-C ports will support Thunderbolt.

If that simplification isn't enough for you, maybe avoid more technical communities. Just stick to TomsHardware.
Wouldn't that make things more expensive so that only the rich can continue to be better off?
I absolutely believe I should be able to own a bazooka, and that the second and first amendments are equally critical for a free state.

People use exactly the same arguments you’re making to justify speech restrictions.

It’s my belief that there’s an underlying social pathology wherein some people are happy to hand power to the state in order to feel safe, regardless of the ultimate consequences, whether we’re discussing arms or speech or any other fundamental right.
I wonder if Google should make their SEO prevention worse but simpler. Everyone has always wanted to SEO for Google, as long as Google has been around. It has seemed like only recently that good sites predictably lose.

Perhaps 10 years ago Stack Overflow was able to do some minimal SEO and then get by on content strength. Perhaps nowadays Google is doing a good job preventing basic stuff from working, so the only people to get good results are SEO-ologists that only know about exploiting SEO, and have nothing interesting to say on any other topic.
Mozilla relented when EME made its way into browsers. Important websites didn't work on Firefox and users were unhappy.

If the same happens now with remote attestation (and I can totally see that happening on streaming websites), Mozilla will have to risk losing even more of their small user base or relent and make some version of the protocol.
Hi, I'm Alex the founder of actuated. Han from our team wrote up a guide on how to use Packer and nested virt within a GitHub Action (something you can't do with the standard hosted runners, and which is questionable with K8s-based runners)

Feel free to tweet to @selfactuated or @alexellisuk with questions and comments.
Ask HN: When is it appropriate to fork a project?
I've been thinking a lot about what leads to forking a project these days. I used to think it was a terrible idea, that it takes away valuable dev knowledge and man power from an existing project but having run things that are now close to a decade old I'm starting to revisit my past assumptions. It seems as though at a certain point in time it might make more sense that a project is forked and the two paths are divergent. I've seen this more and more where communities cannot agree on the path forward but also where a project reaches certain limitations and the only way to make progress is by stripping away much of the tech debt and starting again.

What are people's experiences with forks? What are some of the most successful forks? When is it appropriate to fork?
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>This is more or less what prions do.

I feel this is a bad example to use because prions only do so due to the existence of plenty of things as complex as prions. We would need an example that creates more complex structures out of simpler building blocks, not equally complex building blocks.
Probably just human nature, right? The normal person version of this is getting excited about a Raspberry Pi, buying one, failing to do your project on the first try, and then shoving the thing into a drawer you never open. If you're the richest person in the world, you have the unique ability to tack on 9 zeroes for your "it could be good" speculative projects.
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Google, Alphabet, Facebook, Meta, etc., mostly the same hubris.

It's like if Dunder Mifflin wanted to become Walmart.
We self-hosted invoiceninja for a few years. I liked it enough, but it wasn't perfect by any means.
> the Supreme Court's decision that Harvard's use of affirmative-action criteria in admissions was unconstitutional.

No such decision exists. Harvard's discrimination cannot be unconstitutional because it isn't a government entity. Instead, it violated Title VI of the Civil Rights Act.

The confusion is caused by the fact that the Supreme Court, in SFFA v. Harvard, analyzed Harvard's actions in line with the Equal Protection Clause. But that is because the Supreme Court previously "ha[d] explained that discrimination that violates the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment committed by an institution that accepts federal funds also constitutes a violation of Title VI." Students for Fair Admission, Inc. v. President and Fellows of Harvard College, No. 20–1199, Slip. Op. at 6, n. 2 (citing Gratz v. Bollinger, 539 U. S. 244, 276, n. 23 (2003), internal quotation marks omitted).
I've found just the opposite to be true. I spent some time writing conservative comments, and some time writing liberal comments. My experience is that at least mildly conservative comments are far less likely to get down voted than liberal comments.
I was involved in SEO related projects some time ago. Not that I’m an expert. I’ve heard google understands that the site is a search engine and does not index it. However it should be smarter, like do not index SO’s search pages, but do index question pages - because the original content is there. SO might have ran out of crawl budget which Google assigns to each site, and/or Google prioritises fresh content. But I agree with the sentiment, what we know as SEO is nothing more than playing games with Google indexing algorithms, based on rumours about the recent changes in it, or improving page performance beyond reasonable boundaries. The other day I was looking at apple.com internals and spotted a few things which we were “fixing” on our pages. I asked SEO experts “what is the point of doing X, since there are examples of a well indexed page having that same problem?”. And the answer was like “when we will be as big as Apple…”
Are you implying that the only viable theory is that of a creator god to you or do I not understand your post?
It would be hilarious, if 100% unlikely, if jack@ reclaimed the Twitter brand and renamed Bluesky into Twitter.
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There is definitely interesting and high-potential technology here. I do not think the current crop of "wrap ChatGPT in an API for XYZ business-case" startups will succeed - they will be total fails across the board. There is also an issue where anyone with an iota of experience or degree in something tangential to AI or ML can be the "genius" behind a new startup for funding - a telltale sign of bubble mentality to me.

If LLMs in their current form as human-replacement agents are cheaper versions of Fiver / mechanical turks, and we all know there are very limited, bottom-of-the-barrel use cases for those cheap labor technologies, then why would LLMs be a radical improvement? It's nonsensical.
I know that Quorn also has a reputation for causing allergic reactions. However, I don't know if that reputation is deserved or just misinformation.
The statement about isolation guarantees is in general, doesn't relate to the OP.
you have to click on the corresponding message where the thread continues/forks from. Sometimes it's the last message, sometimes you have to go back a few messages.

It continues again from here: https://mastodon.sdf.org/@cfenollosa/103470433583276145
Also as a slight but important aside, the article mentions end-to-end encryption technology that existed prior to Signal in its opening sentence. It may be that Signal pioneered E2EE chat, but it didn't pioneer E2EE itself. It built upon it in a way that was perhaps more accessible or appealing to a mass audience.

That prior technology, by the way, PGP, is not and was never universally hated. Many businesses continue to use PGP today to exchange encrypted communications with suppliers and customers. It's mostly file transfers, but some businesses even support secure email via PGP, and it's been integrated into a modern secure email product from a Swiss company, Proton, targeted at both consumers and businesses.
The exploit will leak more or less random data (data which was accessed recently by the CPU). You cannot target a specific part of the memory, but you can keep fetching data until you get something interesting.
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If you follow the Gartner model, there is usually a surge of high expectations right before a "trough of disillusionment" - but eventually the real applications do emerge. Humans are just impatient.
For police and moderators, having a false positive rate that equals 0 seems impossible.

There are lots of ways to respond to a positive indicator that could reflect a aelf-awareness of your own false positive rate. Being trigger happy probably isn't the correct response.

It isn't clear how SO moderates the moderators, do they have an IA team that investigates corruption?
You do know that organic chemistry will quickly degrade right? And they have no memory, correct?

So you're telling me that compounds floating around self-assemble into a factory and the information necessary for the factory, including error correcting code, in a short amount of time, randomly?

I don't think you've thought this through.
Which means they're this close in being able to reach out to an algebra system and run the steps and return you the result. I was just talking about this problem with someone the other day - how can it recognize that it doesn't have the answer but knows where it can get data so that it can form an answer. This seems to be the path Google is taking.
You can use https://www.hnreplies.com/ for that :)
Nice effort, this is my feedback:

* On a short invoice (let's say, 4 invoice lines) Font used for rendering invoice lines is way too big and space between invoice lines too large. I understand the font size and base line are adaptive to the number of lines but invoices with low number of lines are then not rendered very nicely

* Size for the description field is way too limited. Most of the description lines we used are larger than what is accepted in this field.

* Missing a "product reference id" column

* Probably not intended for B2B EU users as a few important pieces of information are missing like company number (the one of the invoicing company and the one of the company being invoiced, payment conditions, bank account, payment reference to be used with the bank transfer and, most importantly, no automatic computation and display of the VAT.

Best of luck with your project !
Please don't change the subject like this. It's annoying.

<https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23117242>

There's no reason your question couldn't have been posted in a relevant (sub)thread, instead of here, where it's (i) not on topic for the current subject, but (ii) looks like it could be, and therefore (iii) has the same effect as moving the goalposts.
I'm seeing only the one tweet, not the intended thread. Is this another artefact of Twitter being broken?
> Understandably, people don't want to give up their existing comforts and habits.

Sure.

> Understandably, people that don't have these comforts feel its only fair that they too get access to them.

Yep.

> Understandably, people don't want to see wind or solar parks or other intrusive installations in their backyard.

...Sorry, you lost me.

Particularly with repeating the basically-propaganda that industrial-scale wind or solar installations would be literally in people's backyards.

Now, I can't speak for you, but every wind or solar farm I've seen people opposing—and I live in the middle of farm country, which means both lots of wide-open spaces for such things, and lots of conservative people who think they're (sometimes literally) the Devil's work—were well away from their actual houses. They were solar farms on the neighboring farmer's land (so, nearly a mile from their house), or windmills Anywhere Within Their Sight Lines.

I'm sure there are some places where someone wants to install an industrial wind turbine that would be close enough to someone's house that they would, say, be concerned it might fall on it—those things are tall. But that's an incredibly rare case.

And frankly, I can't see any legitimate reason to object to someone else building a wind farm on their property. I have zero sympathy for people who are more concerned with their own "pristine views" or property values than they are with sustainable energy generation.

So it seems to me that your apparent insoluble dilemma falls apart as soon as you take away the entitlement and short-sightedness of some of the richest and most arrogant among us.
> Training new models? Copy pasting front ends on ChatGPT? Fine tuning models?

The stable diffusion community is probably 2 years more mature than the GPT, there we see gui tools of a kind (in colab notebooks) to abstract away from code and thenlots of fine tuning.

On the professional side, adobe have plugged these tools into their products. https://www.adobe.com/sensei/generative-ai/firefly.html
This is nice. Actually a lot nicer than my hacked together 'invoice-generator.js' NodeJS-Tool I have used before. I think I am switching!
Yeah, I've been using chatGPT quite intensively. And while pure LLM output is relatively easy to spot, human edited LLM output is almost impossible to detect. Most of my message above has actually been written by GPT4 (3 prompts + some light editing).
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From an XEmacs user during its glory days, where VSCode wins over plain old Emacs, is not only the JavaScript (more appealing to the masses than Elisp), it embraces graphics mode, and since the Browser is the new X Windows terminal, the experience feels much better.

However due to Electron, I feel we need to update the Emacs jokes to something more akin to Electron.
I feel like it took practically no time for custom ASICs for bitcoin mining to show up, as soon as it was determined there was real money involved.

Given that there's already definitely real money involved here, I wonder what's holding up the custom AI ASICs?
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Canva works surprisingly well for small enough invoices for a solo consulting gig.
You can also just use a Windows VM and forward the already-working TPM to it. With tools like Cassowary you can use Windows browsers through an app-only RDP connection, integrating the VM seamlessly. Hardware acceleration will be a bit more difficult, but for things like encoding or decoding video you can already forward virtual GPUs on most platforms if you get the configuration right.

I don't think you'll need to buy an SBC for this. A weekend of messing with virtual machines will be enough.
What ML tooling is better in Python?