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I am failing to understand what exactly happened.

The user who was affected by the incident quoted an email from linode that stated "Our investigation has revealed a customer support interface was used to access your account.", based on that and all the information of that post you get the impression that through the 'interface' the attacker was able to change the vps root password.

Now a reply from linode comes and says "The portal does not have access to credit card information or Linode Manager user passwords". So if the portal doesn't have access to Linode Manager how the attacker gained ability to change the root passwords ?

Thy should give more details on the incident, i do have a certain trust in the ability of linode to have a secure environment & i can understand that things like that will happen at some point to everyone. However its one thing for someone to get access in your system because you had your roots password to 'password' and another if there was a bug that got exploited.(yea this is an extreme example)
An Erlang crash is of an Erlang process, which is a tiny green-thread with shared-nothing. That's very different from a C program segfaulting.
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Why has it always got to be this direction though? Next time you watch a film try tracking the wastage, the unnecessary cuts, the plethora of extras, the ridiculous quantity of explosions and/or CGI.

IMO the future is about more films with lower budgets. At present the amount of money that film studios piss away with their bloated budgets is utterly unsustainable.
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It is public yes, this is it: http://manager.linode.com/
And that makes the HN comments interesting, which I will agree with. It's the initial creation of the article I'm questioning, is all.

I am absolutely not questioning that the resultant dialog isn't interesting; as I have read it, and that is interesting. I'm questioning the original article, which does not look like this dialog was the intended result.

[edit: addendum]
I also have nothing against Notch. If this were about where Page's, or Zuckerberg's, or any of the All Stars of our time's money was going, I imagine I'd have a similar response
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Is there another data-specific conference you know of that has a stronger technical grounding?
> So if the portal doesn't have access to Linode Manager

They didn't say that, they said it doesn't have access to the passwords. They have an interface to change details, they just can't read them. So they can reset your password to "hunter2" but they can't see if it's "hunter2".
For my time spent, I'd rather improve debugability over most any other aspect of quality in software.

I dream of never needing to get something reproduced because when something goes wrong there is a real useful data and execution trace, no matter whether the bug manifested as a crash or incorrect behavior. IMO the compilation/execution strategy of chicken scheme is a big step towards enabling this.
It sounds like Linode's user system is different from their server management system. They probably have some administration tools for resetting VPS passwords, but don't have access to sensitive user details.
There is a bunch of violent people who would disagree.
It's worth noting here the Starz isn't making these movies - they're paying for to access the content from the creators just like Netflix is.

(Starz produces a few tv shows but obviously none of the titles in the title here)
Full details? It's as few details as they can possibly report. I guess thats the actual underlying problem here. They don't want to give all the details because then it would quickly become apparent that their security system and protocols for managing hundreds of servers was extremely lackluster.
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Thanks, I probably should have done that earlier.
Netflix says they stream up to 5MB/s for their video quality, which looks great to me. Not as good as a blu-ray I'm sure, but still looks better than standard definition.
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I've always wondered why there isn't a crowdsourcing entity that pays out rewards for finding infringement (patent, copyright, whatever).
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I worked at NASA in a past life. Whole-disk encryption was banned at our center because it caused "problems" for the IT contractors. If you had ITAR/SBU data, you were to encrypt and decrypt it manually using Entrust, which is the biggest pile of dogshit PKI I've ever seen. So of course people forgot, or got lazy.

Another center was forced to keep using LEAP for years after it was broken, due to contract requirements.

I am completely unsurprised by this. Saddened, but unsurprised.
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Boardgames have replaced movies and TV in our house. There are some great games out there. Good ones can run anywhere from $20-80 (though usually around $40-50) but the value for your money is far greater. We get some quality time together as a family and the kid gets some strategic and problem-solving skills.

Of course... they take up a lot more space. :)
I think there is some confusion here. That's the link to the customer portal, which needs to be pretty public.

I have no idea how Linode's support team access accounts, but I would hope it is less public.
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No mention of liability. So they are fixing it, but someone is out of $12k of bitcoins. Linode says, tough luck for trusting us with your valuables.
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"So when an attacker gets access through some really trivial method that they really should be protected against, that's their fault"

A good point but keep in mind that courts don't have the level of expertise to judge what in terms of security is trivial and what is not.

The person trying the case and/or the jury may very well be someone who uses "football" as a password.

Also there are multiple cases of the very best companies with supposedly the highest levels of security getting hacked on a regular basis (might be a small percentage but it always makes the news). Consequently any company defending could make an argument that "this stuff happens even with the best and brightest" and it might be believed. (Well anyway that's what I would argue if I was a lawyer..)

So the public could easily be convinced in the case of a technology company something that would never fly as far as a screwup at the self storage - something physical that they can relate to (like leaving a door unlocked which is easy to understand).
It's too bad that this is halfway to the bottom of the page.

That's easily one of the most interesting steganographic techniques I have ever heard of.

It certainly allows for unique password reminders. A tape recording next to your monitor with strange music on it would probably be passed over by...I honestly can't think of anyone who'd make the leap between music and passwords. So lets just say anyone except (potentially) people who've read this post, the user you mentioned, and anyone else who happens to be doing this.
I remember reading a couple of years back on wikipedia that it would be hard to find a snack more dangerous than a twinkie. But today its almost completely in favor, with the "Health Aspects" section reduced to a single line. Nice work by the Hostess Brand PR guys. Wikipedia seems less and less trustworthy.
I have to agree with the inventory, better weapons and armour should auto-equip. Select weapon class (axe vs dual-wield vs bow) and let them auto-equip up in one weapon or armour class.

> Also, I think that any story involving dragons has been told to death.

Agreed, but so has every film plot involving racing cars or stealing cars but people still go to see them. I think the problem is that when you appeal to 90% of people, you're stuck eternally trying to appeal to the same people.
There is a lot more to life than money. For a lot of people, as long as they make enough money to life a comfortable life, they are happy to make less to work on exciting projects. If I was offered $100,000 to do boring work vs. $50,000 to do exciting work I would choose the latter (provided the $50,000 covered my living expenses).

That does not make me a fool. I may not have a family but those rules would still apply. As long as I could provide for my family I would take the more exciting job.
Because then you're the kind of person who concerns themselves with equity and vesting schedules, which Notch doesn't seem to be.
So you're not actually questioning the act of giving away the money either? Your point of contention is "Why is he posting this?" ?

That's actually quite an interesting line of inquiry. I'd suggest it probably helps raise his company's profile, it helps draw potential employees to his company, and, admittedly, it also probably makes him feel good about himself - and it should - he's doing a Good Thing (TM) he should be able to highlight that. It cost him $3MM why shouldn't it buy him some goodwill?
Hollywood is never going to learn; i think Netflix should get themselves in the content creation business by making alliances with indie movie makers.
Australia has a long history of making bad decisions involving the local wildlife, which is why they are now super-cautious when it comes to things like this.
Best thing to do would be for Linode to generously reimburse these people, but they have no obligation to do so.

As a policy, it would neither be good business nor appropriate for Linode to assume all of the risk in a situation like this.

Also, if Linode did put a policy in place to assume some of the risk (some sort of insurance policy) they open themselves up to scams (just get your friend to rob your bitcoins and cash in on Linode's good will insurance policy).
> Linode must host more valuable stuff.

Such as? bitcoins are valuable and easy to run away with. Stolen credit card numbers are such a hassle to monetize that they can be bought with only $2 or $3 of e-currency.
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Yes, that's one of the bigger draws - that your opportunities and compensation are fairly closely correlated with your achievements.

There's still wonkery like facetime and being one of the guys, but compared to many other areas it's pretty good.

How the money is earned is a separate issue.
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Make that 50k Bitcoins, 43k from a single company, Bitcoinica.com. So, approximately $250k

Worthless Bitcoins, hein...
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I'm not really an expert, but my understanding is that the perception from the Apple side is that GCC was basically ok, and they were happy to contribute to it, until the FSF switched to GPL3, which they view as freetard nonsense and totally unacceptable to their needs.

My understanding is that the perception from the GNU side is that everything was great and productive with Red Hat, IBM, Apple, etc. all contributing together to one compiler, and then because of Apple's misguided objections to GPL3 and GNU, Apple decided to take its marbles and go home and start funding and working on a new compiler suite. Now we have some companies contributing to GCC and others to LLVM/Clang and there is a lot of over-the-top criticism of GCC. I assume the GCC people also wish they still had all the resources they used to have.

That's why I get the sense the competition is not so friendly.
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See my reply here http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3655308

Now crawl back under your rock...

Reality must be really harsh to you, hence your username.
One user (slush) lost $12k worth of bitcoins, but another (bitcoinica) lost upwards of [$40k-$50k - wrong].

EDIT: first report from bitcoinica was "over 10k btc". Most recent report is 43,554 BTC, which would be worth almost $200k if liquidated on MtGox at the moment.
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Nope. I'm not a fool and I do have a family, but I ended up in a very well-paid but soul-destroying job in a ReasonablyBigCo. I quit to work for a well-run SmallCo for less money because I am a happier person now. I don't regret it even for a moment.
These bitcoin servers trusted their currency exchange to cloud servers--VPSes, really--and they want Linode to compensate them for the money lost? Insane. I don't claim to know anything about the bitcoin infrastructure hosted here but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that there was no dedicated hardware firewall in front of it, no IDS, no WAF, nothing but some Linux instances running iptables.

The payment card industry wouldn't certify this hardware to process credit cards for a mom-and-pop online business, yet these guys use it like their bank? Come again?
I'm a sucker for stories about the Titanic, but this story lead me to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fata_Morgana_(mirage) which I found way more interesting.
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Sure but there is legal precedent for that as well as it's an easy concept for the everyday man to understand. (Employee and seeing them makes it a open and shut case.)

As an aside, signs like that are the same as ones that appear in auto shops that say "insurance regulations don't allow you in the shop". I owned a company that did manufacturing and said a similar thing because I didn't want anyone in the machine area. I've dealt with insurance companies for many years they don't dictate things like that at least from my experience.

Your example is correct though the restaurant would be liable in the situation you cited because you actually saw an employee steal the coat. If you saw someone else NOT connected to the restaurant AND the coat was expensive you are probably out of luck. It's your property and there is no assumption that a restaurant protects you from acts of god.

The key is was their negligence on the part of the restaurant.

On the other hand if there was a large party at the restaurant and normally a coat check girl that's a different story (devils in the details with this stuff).
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You might want to take a step back before you start lobbing insults. Exciting work doesn't just mean 'foosball table'.

Perhaps the reason you're insulting those who disagree is because you've chosen exceptionally different definitions of what it means to do interesting and exciting work.
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Would have to meet several tests. 1) Hosting company knew and agreed to the value of the things they had control over. 2) Employee did it and they were negligent in hiring that individual. 3) Reasonable and customary for that type of stuff to be in that situation given pricing and the practices of others.

With respect for #3 it would be reasonable for a bank safe deposit box to contain a $100,000 ring maybe but not to contain a 10,000,000 ring.
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I have so much respect for Notch and Minecraft. It's the dream that pretty much everyone who wanted to build games has had--turning your game into a massive success both financially and artistically. All without the help of publishers or really the entire professional game industry. Amazing.
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Likewise.

Suspicious events prompted an immediate investigation and the compromised credentials used by this intruder were then restricted

Does that mean the credentials were gained outside of Linode and used to change the root passwords of the accounts for the purposes of the theft, or were those credentials used as part of an exploit in Linodes systems?
The title of their blog post is: "Linode Manager Security Incident" and that's exactly the name of the customer website where you can manage your instance, billing, etc.

I think someone found a way to gain access to any Linode customer account through the customer website and from there shut down the instance, changed root password and rebooted (you can do that from there).
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There are certain markets where I feel Microsoft has to be careful in. Making Microsoft brand PCs or phones would get dangerous for their antitrust ruling which only recently ceased. Consoles have a long precedent of having the software directly tied to the hardware, as do MP3 players. PCs and phones, not so much. If Microsoft were to start making their own phones and ended up gaining significant marketshare, there's the chance they could be cited again (though not as strictly if they were not actively anti-competitive). Even Apple has come under federal investigation for potential abuse of their iPod monopoly.

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> Tragically $10 a month for every movie and TV show ever isn't viable.

Why not?

Further, can you explain that in terms an avid Netflix customer can understand?
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They would have to play their hand at behind the scenes knowledge of your actual figures somewhat openly for this to work. That would be disastrous for them.
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Your reply is a non-statement that sounds like it came straight from the marketing/PR department.

What percentage of Fortune 500 companies have at least five users who posted something on Yammer in the last two weeks?
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This sounds like a delusional way of saying "We'll wait until we can replicate the premium cable channel model over the Internet". They clearly don't understand that the concept of a "channel" is what's being disrupted.
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You do know the US Treasury is the safest financial instrument in the known universe, right? I'm sure you also know that French debt is denominated in Euros a currency which may or may not exist in 10 years...
Also, even if it does exist they don't fully control the currency.....you know what? this isn't worth debating. This is like a comic performance.

A long time ago, the French decided that quality of life, and taking an easier path was simply more important than the economic, military, and to a lesser extent cultural dominance of the US. As a result, French people live generally better quality of life, but the very ambitious don't get as rewarded as in the US. You will find French of all stripes in the US who seek to live in the US because they can be rewarded more than in France.

It is a cultural choice. But let's not deny the effect.

In France you have 35 hour work-week, siesta, lots of vacations, health care, bloated government. But there is very little entrepreneur ism. The French fell in love with the large corporation and large government.
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