skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Maybe the term "engineer" did the concept a disservice, but prompt engineering has a lot of parallels to the field of UX.

Currently there's a lot intuition involved so it can come across as made up, but there are novel concepts which meaningfully affect the end quality of what you make, and it takes time to learn and/or discover them.

As time goes I expect our understanding of what underlies "good prompts" will start to bridge the gap from intuition to science much like how UX bridged into neuroscience and psychology. If you understand things like attention and logits that's already kind of happening: you can use that knowledge to identify gaps in the abilities of LLMs and start to bridge those gaps.

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People are convinced that future LLMs will obsolete prompt engineering. To me that'd be like people from the 90s thinking computers are going to obsolete UX because more powerful computers will be better at making user interfaces, and in turn anyone will be able to do it.

In some ways they'd be right: Today you don't need a UX expert at PARC to integrate a WYSIWYG interface into your product. Computers got so powerful that in milliseconds we can download libraries that implement the interface and render it across any form factor you can imagine. So now a WYSIWYG on your contact form is nothing.

But as computers got more powerful they could do new things, so UX advanced onto improving how we interface with those new things. Things like the Vision Pro will unlock new areas of UX based on novel capabilities they posses.

I think people are making a similar mistake with LLMs: they're focused on this idea that we'll just do the current things but better with more powerful models. But the more powerful models will be something we can "prompt engineer" into usecases we haven't even considered yet. (I also built notionsmith.ai and I'd argue it fits into that bucket a bit)
I remember thinking this about Tesla too. They built a fairly massive automaker while everyone kept saying their whole approach was fundamentally doomed.
Which you've said already, multiple times.

But what Gorby said above is much more important than the simple lack of a written agreement.
Which desert sands album was that? Asking for a friend. ;)
RIP Nitter
Red Hat is adhering to the letter of Open Source and Free Software. If this makes you unhappy, we need better definitions and licenses.
An opposite case of this is "nah, yeah" "yeah no" "nah yeah nah" etc, which is English slang in maybe 200 different places, all of which claim they're the only ones who say it.
Actually done? No. However, one use-case that i couild think of - beyond testing - would be to modularize some dev work. For example, maybe i have a junior dev who knows some http, but not experienced enough to be a lead dev, or something like that. I could give the junior dev a task like draft up some tech spec...Or, i could have them use their basic http skills and craft Hurl files...one for each function that will inevitably be a function in code...either to be done by a more senior dev, or who knows, maybe this same junior dev could eventually learn to code based on their own hurl files...which someone else might call pseudo-code (or pseudo-code in tech docs)...which eventually gets turned into production code...and those same hurl files can also be turned into test cases.

Anyway, for me, hurl looks like an evolution of curl...which makes sense since its built off of curl (https://hurl.dev/#powered-by-curl). So, for uses-cases that might reach beyond curl, that's when i might reach for hurl as well. No doubt, there could be other use-cases for hurl.
So I've been producing ads for a couple of decades, and I agree that they're basically psychological warfare. I justify it to myself because I usually get to make ads for products that help people, but the war over mindshare is absolutely depraved. That said, there does need to be a place for people to access information about products and services. I'd just prefer it be a place that people go to intentionally learn about products and services, rather than something ingrained in every aspect of modern life.
I don't run that site myself, but a quick search on sec.gov shows it's a registered hedge fund:

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1653903/000165390318...

I can't say any more about its validity. Ask your financial planner if techtrader is right for you :)
I know for dogs baby talk can be useful to separate your communications, ensuring dogs only react when you're directly addressing them, and not when you bring up keywords in idle conversation on unrelated topics.

Not sure if this kind of compartmentalising is in any way useful for human babies, probably not in any beneficial way I guess.
I'm not buying your premise. You seem to be implying that the cost of running the paper could have been sustained by subscription only foregoing any ad sales. I'm saying the exact opposite in that even if 100,000 people paid full price for the paper every day, that would not raise enough money to run the paper. This is why it is said subscriptions were subsidized by the ads. To eliminate ads, the subscription price would have to increase significantly beyond what people would accept.

You seem to only be coming from the expense of layout which is just not true. The world has increased in size from only paying attention to the local news with maybe a few specialty sources. Now, you can have access to news from any country at any time. Expecting people to pay for subscriptions to that is not realistic either. So since people are not paying for subscriptions, each company is depending on income for other places which has always been ads. The key difference today for me is that ads can now be malicious beyond their original purpose. Seeing an ad in print or tv or hearing one on the radio was never able to drain you of resources whether that be compute power or something much more nefarious. Because they cannot (or will not) control that, they have lost all sympathy from me about ads.
I was a hobbyist contributor for 10 years before joining Red Hat and still do occasional contributions to random projects I use.
If you mean "how can I get good at prompting and do it in my existing job" - then check the prompting section I put together here: https://llm-utils.org/AI+Learning+Curation#Software%20Engine...

But if you mean "how can I get a full time job where I just do prompt writing" - Unfortunately I'm not quite convinced it's a real role yet. It was more of a marketing thing that newspapers and others wanted to hype up. For example this https://jobs.lever.co/Anthropic/e3cde481-d446-460f-b576-93ca... was the main job posting most news articles about 'prompt engineering' referred to when talking about the big salaries, but if you actually look at what it involves:

> Discover, test, and document best practices for a wide range of tasks relevant to our customers.

(This is largely a customer success role)

> Build up a library of high quality prompts or prompt chains to accomplish a variety of tasks, with an easy guide to help users search for the one that meets their needs.

(Prompt engineering and writing)

> Build a set of tutorials and interactive tools that teach the art of prompt engineering to our customers.

(This is largely a software engineering role)

> Work with large enterprise customers on their prompting strategies.

(This is largely an enterprise customer success role)

It's more of a software engineering + enterprise customer success role, from what I can see.

That said, I've seen $25/hr freelance jobs that are pure prompt writing, though not 40/hrs a week.

If you want to do it because you love writing prompts, I expect that the job roles that'll spend the most time of their day writing prompts will be software engineers at companies that use GPT-4 in production (so Notion, Mem, Speak, Descript, Retool, Quora, Zapier, Stripe).
> many people feel it is an attack on the spirit of copyleft.

What exactly is the spirit of copyleft? I see this said a number of times, but it doesn't appear to be fully articulated.
It is in the spirit, and here it is straight from the horse's mouth:

> Many people believe that the spirit of the GNU Project is that you should not charge money for distributing copies of software, or that you should charge as little as possible—just enough to cover the cost. This is a misunderstanding.

> Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can. If a license does not permit users to make copies and sell them, it is a nonfree license. If this seems surprising to you, please read on.

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.en.html
> It is a complete mistake to suppose that common people make our towns commonplace, with unsightly things like advertisements.

In other words, the average person isn't advertising; at least, not in an intrusive way.

Indeed, the best at any particular job probably are not advertising, because the effort they spent on advertising is effort that was not spent on the job. After buying expensive medication in the United States, I come home and the TV is showing a 90 second commercial from a pharmaceutical company with a catchy song and is overall very well made--guess I know why my medication was expensive. Do we even need advertisements for prescription medication?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos_phone_hacking_incid...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_Project_(investigation...

This wasnt an iCloud hack, this was Pegasus exploiting 0 click.
> I’m happy to help these people

Then do it. And show us how you do it.

Nothing prevents you from setting the example, using some criteria to find a target for your charity and paying off some or all of their student loan. Maybe you can take over the payments?

In fact, you could start a foundation of like-minded people and help hundreds, or thousands, of people.

Here's the difference: You get to do whatever you want with your money. Including finding people who think like you and want to join you.

The other approach is forcing everyone to jump on your bandwagon. And that is wrong.

I paid every dime back. So did my wife. We did without lots of things for a very long time while meeting the obligations we entered into to go to school. We both worked full time jobs while we were in school. We didn't take vacations for a long time while we evolved financially and in our respective careers.

That's what commitment and honoring responsibilities looks like.

People with student loans whining about not being bailed out is the pinnacle of adults behaving as petulant children. Grow the fuck up! They bought something that will benefit them for the rest of their lives. The government facilitated that by guaranteeing that loan. No sane lender would have ever provided these loans without this guarantee. Time to behave as an adult and pay for it.

Bullshit degree?

Too bad. Not my problem. I am not responsible for someone paying $150K for a Masters in Underwater Basket Weaving. Tough shit. You fucked up.

Want to blame someone for that expensive Ms in Basket Weaving that can only make you $35K/year? Blame yourself. Stop voting for snake oil salesmen who promise the world and end-up damaging everyone who voted for them. If government was out of the student loan business that degree would not be worth more than $15K to $30K, if that. Your voting decisions have consequences. You have to pay for those just as well.

How about paying off everyone's cars? And then, we don't take them away. They keep using their car for free, just like a student loan bailout would allow someone to use their degree for profit forever.

Of course, some will have bought sensibly-priced cars, while others will have spent $150K for a car to drive the kids to school.

Lets force everyone in the nation who paid-off their vehicles through hard work and responsible behavior to pay for the cars bought by others who are now whining about their loans. Brilliant.

If you want to pay-off people's cars, be my guest. Again, private money and private decisions, you are free to do this...and more.

Let us know if you pay off someone's loan or start a private foundation to do just that. I'm sure many on HN who share your way of thinking will gladly donate tens of thousands of dollars (or more) to demonstrate these are not just empty words and the truly get behind what they say with non-trivial financial commitments for the benefit of others.
One of my clients make really good products. I would say the best you can get (this is a mobility product) It has ergonomic properties that blows away any competition, and build quality is second to none.

However, it’s expensive. It has been a really tough uphill climb to connect to our audience and convince them the money is worth it here. In a market with marked up shitty quality products it has been a journey to position ourselves, especially since our budgets are maybe 1/10th of that of aforementioned shitty producers who outmarket us.

I honestly feel the work I am doing is near to a community service. Although still advertising our ads are honest of what the products can do.
I was confused for decades by the americanism "lucked out" which always seems to me to imply an unfortunate situation.

Also "could care less" actually means "couldn't care less" which is just as easy to say so why make the change? And how?
What is the fail rate compared to Gmail?
I was confused at first on why a random dude posted a link to a screenshot hosted on Celso Azevedo's website (the Google Camera port index creator).

Then I realized... hello there! (:
I can imagine that that is potentially a result of Apple’s dominant podcast directory. Podcasters submit their feeds to Apple’s Podcast Connect, which I think flags warnings and errors. Other forms of feed don’t have that big motivation to validate.
A language should be considered with its ecosystem, which is why the author started delegating parts to Python by the end.

Therefore the title was actually on point.
Partnership with American Express could lead to Apple Card being available in more countries.
You can take investment without doing the full seed, a, b, c, d, f rounds. Outside of the hyped startup worlds there are other ways. Or just do an a if you have half of a decent company.
And they would be able to acquire that hardware wallet and get money into it how exactly?
Your first study is testing three different diets only specifically for high triglycerides and the second doesn't mention honey.
Walk-Through: Prefix Ranges in Rust, a Surprisingly Deep Dive
By comparison, here's the top 50 country songs on Spotify, where users pick for themselves what they want to listen to instead of having radio stations pick for them. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DX7aUUBCKwo4Y

A quick scan shows me about 10% female singers.
You’re actually not too far off. I use to browse the App Store regularly to see what was new and interesting.

The App Store is such a shit show now, I only go there when someone links to an interesting app from a website or podcast notes.
I'd say Lowtax was more of a hindrance than their business model; especially in retrospect. I always thought the edgy dirtbag thing was a bit of a put-on (which I enjoyed), but I was quite wrong on that, and it's a mistake I've learned not to make again.
I see where you are coming from, but I've found it beneficial to my business to trade the minor inconvenience of free subscription management for the stability and long-term support for RHEL.

I get that others may not like that trade-off, but I was mostly curious if there were any specific reasons that would tip my personal scales. Sounds like there aren't.
In the attached article

> After hovering around record lows for much of the pandemic, consumer delinquencies are rising across the industry.

> It lost slightly more than $1 billion in 2021 and $783 million in 2020, after accounting for operating expenses and money set aside to cover possible losses on loans

That seems like an enormous amount of money to support buy now and pay later
That's a great observation. There's prior art in authorization (and also in the Kubernetes domain) with folks using Open Policy Agent -- specifically, Rego [0], a derivative of Datalog.

I've used it with success in authorization, but the developer experience could be better. I've found the experience to be better when paired with some constraint framework.

The other trade-off as mentioned in another comment is that it's stateless. The pro is that it's stateless, but the con is that someone needs to figure out a way to get input and data into your evaluation runtime so that you can write meaningful policies.

[0] https://www.openpolicyagent.org/docs/latest/policy-language/
It really depends on who you're talking to and where you're talking.

I'd be willing to bet a totally irresponsible amount of money that if I went out to bars in Atlanta tonight, I would hear someone say "bum a cigarette" before closing time rolled around.
You just cannot stop technology progress by fear, the ones that want it to continue will always outnumber the ones fantasizing about doom. But once we get close(when we had a close one with AI), and we are not close that’s when the real debate begins
Umm, I know you’re trying to joke, but your scenario is kind of exactly what has happened..
It'll be fun to look back on these comments in a few years. It will be like looking back on the internet skeptics of the 90s. Most people have forgotten about those.

Of course, there was a big boom and bust cycle back then too, but just like then, this cycle is nowhere near its peak.
I assume that was the intent of the commenter, but no argument for it was made. It's not obvious how the numbers prove moral decline, so I was curious what the argument was.
Maybe. Apple doesn't let you put third-party OSes on iPhones or iPads, it's unclear what would happen if they did.

It would probably start with something niche like a barebones Linux port, but then it might turn into an Asahi-style project that does give the user a perfectly normal user experience. Maybe people start shipping CalyxOS-style hardened iOS distributions for people who want to further neuter Apple's control over their system. Or maybe people reverse-engineer a Vulkan driver onto the hardware and use iPads as low-power ASICs. The sky is really the limit, here.
I understand that you're feeling emotional because your favorite corporation experienced a security issue. It's important to recognize that many people develop a strong sense of identity and attachment to certain corporations or brands. This emotional connection often stems from the marketing strategies and manipulative tactics employed by these companies.

Corporations invest a significant amount of effort and resources into building their brand image and cultivating a loyal customer base. Through clever marketing techniques, they create narratives and associations that resonate with individuals on a personal level. These strategies aim to evoke emotions and forge a sense of identity tied to the corporation's values, products, or services.

By fostering this emotional bond, corporations hope to maintain customer loyalty and influence consumer behavior. They want you to feel personally connected to their success, so when negative events like a security leak occur, it's natural to feel disappointed or upset.

However, it's important to keep in mind that this emotional attachment is often a result of marketing and manipulation rather than a genuine reflection of the company's character or actions. Corporations are primarily profit-driven entities, and their marketing efforts are designed to maximize their bottom line.

In moments like this, it can be helpful to take a step back and evaluate the situation from a more objective perspective. Consider the actions and decisions of the corporation separate from your personal attachment. It's possible that the security leak was a result of internal shortcomings or external factors beyond the company's control.

While it's understandable to feel emotional about such events, it's also essential to remember that the corporation is not an extension of your identity. Your values, beliefs, and self-worth should not be solely determined by your association with any particular corporation. Instead, focus on evaluating the situation critically, demanding accountability, and considering alternative options that align with your values and needs.

By recognizing the influence of marketing and manipulation, you can maintain a healthier perspective, make more informed choices, and develop a more balanced relationship with corporations and brands.
If you let your roof leak so you could pay for college, you graduated, and you eventually fixed the roof, that's strictly worse than fixing the roof immediately and getting a loan instead, graduating, and having your loans forgiven. The person who scrimped and saved had a leaky roof for many years and the person who took out a loan didn't.

(And leaky roofs are just a metonym. College is pretty expensive, and paying for it drastically reduces most people's quality of life in a way that's much bigger than leaky roofs, and much harder to shrug off.)
Google is free-riding on my internet connection.

Add up all their users and that's many billions of dollars of networking they're getting for free, paid for by those users.
Earlier this week I was reading about Hassan-i Sabbah and stumbled upon an interesting, relevant factoid.

Hassan-i Sabbah's militant group was known for taking drugs (hashish) as well as the targeted murdering (assassinations) of key figures during the Crusades. So they were referred to as hashishins (arabic for hashish-smokers) which was eventually turned into assassins and thats where the term comes from.