skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
After thinking it over, I'm persuaded by the users who argued that this story is intellectually and historically interesting and therefore deserves a thread on HN – as long as it can stay out of flamewar. If you're going to comment, please make sure you're posting in the intended spirit of intellectual curiosity, and please avoid the shallow, tropey, flamebaity style.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: I know that (as of this moment) the story may have passed its sensational peak - if so, that's a good thing on HN. We're trying for reflective, not reflexive, conversation here: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor....
Pretty well because we produce a lot of food, some of which we don’t even bother eating.
the way a program works isn't actually how a human would work, and those (false) equivalences, don't make the way a program works to be excusable. anyway, it doesn't matter, it's just distracting bullshit ultimately.

meanwhile, a program operates in a series of very concrete tangible operations over bytes.

was data of original works downloaded? yep. was that data processed? yep. was some kind of output based on that data created? yep. so what is that data, if not a derivative? and then, if some other data was created based on that derivative data - damn, that's a derivative of a derivative. is it not?
Link to noyb's site, with a template to request whether your number is processed by TeleSign:

https://noyb.eu/en/telesign-profiles-half-worlds-phone-users
The cause is simple: Extreme turnovers are a consequence of inequality. Wage growth has not kept up with workers' productivity and employees aren't stupid enough not to notice this.

If the employee feels like he's being taken for a fool, he'll try his luck somewhere else. If they see the CEO announcing record profits but his salary is stagnating you can bet your ass he'll try to leave. If the CEO and execs are getting a platinum trim on their yachts but you can't afford a new car, you bet it'll ruffle some feathers.

The fix is simple: have workers' pay track increases in profits and productivity but companies don't want to do it, they want the increases in productivity to go to investors instead of workers
Medvedev fears nuclear weapons ending up in “bandits' hands”
Billionaires have a whole novel extra layer above this, as their taxable income and investment preferences can be significant for local (and sometimes national) governments.

What's described here affects everyone, and is a reason to something something Gini coefficient.

Someone on $1k/year can't afford for their $50 smartphone to get damaged or stolen; on $10k/year they can't afford for their fridge to break and their food to spoil; most of us are close enough to $100k/year to not need an example; $1M/year I can't imagine, as despite my close (logarithmically) to $100k income, my expenses are closer to $10k but without the stress of low earnings.
They already made peace: https://nitter.lacontrevoie.fr/RWApodcast/status/16726544795...
Awesome, exactly the function that I talked about.
Nitpick: It is not inflation itself, but unexpected change of inflation rate. Expected inflation rate is neutral, because everyone accounted for it in interest rates.
This is excessive. It is high-school level (in the worst case scenario 1 or 2 college/uni years).

Yeah, a bit higher than the minimum wage.

It seems to be inflated wages not based on skills but on technical fashion trends.

Mafia?
How so, you still have to keep track of the overrun, but this time even twice. First when doing 10000 - 4583 and second when adding? I don't see how that would be easier?
Prigozhin, or someone who sounds like him, declared the end to the "March of Justice"
very apt metaphor
So predatory pricing?
overpaying is going to attract the wrong people
For people not living there but curious about trying it out: What's a reasonable range for "very well paid job in France"? Is it all cash or is there equity?
Title should be changed to “Russian Paramilitary Chief Says His Forces Will Turn Around”.
A signing bonus the size of an average software engineer salary here...and I'm in a very wealthy country
Can everyone please avoid the shallow/flamebait style in this thread? Otherwise we're going to end up with something nasty and boring.

edit: I originally posted this as a reply to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36460954 but that was a dumb idea (sorry pmarreck). I don't want to single out a particular user and didn't mean to shame anyone.
The other part that everyone is getting wrong is that OpenAI's future profits are already priced in to the PPUs so employees can sell them today to unlock that value. They don't have to wait.
When I first played paperclip I didn't know it was based on that thought experiment. I felt silly a year+ later when someone made the connection for me.
Wagner have stood down, their telegram confirms -

https://t.me/s/apwagner

That was the most intense war played out over cyber channels I've seen.

Telegram, Twitter, some idiot on LinkedIn. OSINT everywhere. Lots of blocked sites in Russia. Possible attacks on Google maps. A shame HN opted out. You get this sort of thing once a decade. I guess with the internet exploding it might happen again sooner.
We are not the audience. The VCs they are trying to raise the next megaround from are
Here's an above board gift link instead: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/06/24/world/russia-ukraine...
Prigozhin: "I have not agreed to any proposals from President Lukashenko of Belarus." - https://twitter.com/ResearcherTiger/status/16726581343039283...
By exit do they mean NEET-ification (Not in Education, Employment or Training) or is this solely about job market participation?

Apocryphally, there seems to be greater support for non-traditional students now so a subset might be retraining.
Economic growth would slow down, but overall the US would function just fine as we are self sufficient in most economic inputs that really matter. We also have the military force to break any conceivable blockade and take what we need, so no one would be stupid enough to even try blockading us in the first place.
Some niche communities are pay-to-play, especially around Patreon. Though I'm not sure how scalable it is. People self select into these communities and there may not be enough diversity to sustain interesting conversations.
Does anywhere in the world have a marginal property tax?

LA introduced a mansion sales tax.

Anywhere else?

My main issue with a marginal property tax is that the areas with high property values already have enough taxes generally for the things property tax covers.

Not sure at least in the US how feasible it would be to have a marginal property tax and the revenue go to the state and the Fed (or even the county's general fund in most places).

My guess is there's a 0% chance the marginal property tax could go to the Fed to reduce Federal income tax, and in most states, a low chance it could even go to the state, or even in most counties that it could go to the general fund instead of mostly to the local school district and local fire department (which are usually already funded adequately).
Debt, not bankruptcy.
If it is “equity” in a private company, any employees can certainly sell that stock to a venture buyer on the secondary market. However the share price will likely be discounted.
I'm not quite sure what to do here because the OP is currently being updated by the minute.

Edit: ok, I've changed the title from "Putin vows to put down rebellion by Wagner chief Prigozhin".
I proceed to propose a scheme in which private insurance providers,
with access to government as a lender of last resort

LOL another "heads we win, tails the taxpayers lose" scheme where the insurers can rake in profits if they make good bets but dump the losses when they don't
They have stopped based on a preliminary deal brokered by Belarus.
It's both things. Offering more money increases the inbound applicants dramatically. You want this because top talent is disproportionately likely to have better options and may have a high floor. This does, however, create a non-trivial filtering problem, and one that is hard to scale because recruiters can't reliably differentiate real talent from good talkers. The key here is to make sure your best people are active engaged in recruiting and to minimize the type 1 and type 2 errors in hiring. This is hard to sustain at scale, and I think places like Google and Facebook have been losing the battle on this for many years—also due to engineering brand dilution because they don't actually have that much impactful work relative to the headcount—but OpenAI is small and focused enough that they ought to be able to manage pretty effectively.
Not the right angle: "open source" was corpo corrupted with grotesquely and absurdely massive and complex software (look at the web engines, no salvation here).

We need _LEAN_ open source with their corresponding protocols and including the _LEAN_ SDKs.
That channel is fake.

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2020/10/07/wag...

Gray zone that’s linked here confirms the stop.
> fact is NH on mobile web is not optimized for unknown reasons

It’s literally the only site I use zoomed-in on desktop as well, 150%.
next, it was all a ruse for something
I would take it. There are some interesting things to work on.
read this for more in depth analysis on Office Politics:
https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/07/yin-and-yang-oil-an...
he already ordered his troops back to their bases https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/ukraine-russia-...
I don't get this line of questioning. There's like thousands of more realistic and down to earth scenarios to emerge from this situation.

The only thing "nuclear" I'm currently somewhat expecting is a false flag nuclear catastrophe at Zaporizhzhia in Ukraine by one of the many actors in play right now where everyone may have an angle to profit from that happening.
My philosophy professor had a multi-volume (non-English-language) textbook called “Introduction to the science of philosophy”, so, uh, I dunno.

Claiming it’s complementary is also not benign—it brings along the burden of pointing out some holes in the scientific enterprise, a general conception of how to fill them, and at least some practical success in doing so. I don’t believe that to be impossible and have some things I could suggest there, but I also carry the common scepticism caused by philosophers not getting literally anything right about the 20th-century-physics picture of the world right ahead of time, so I don’t believe it trivial either.

(Yeah, quantum computing and microscopic, low-energy quantum physics in general is kind of an exception to my provocative assertion above, though one could argue that the people who started that were from a counterculture of physics first and philosophers only as a consequence of that. I don’t really want to throw shade on philosophers here, only to express my bewilderment that people who made it their life’s work to speculate what the stuff of the world could be got it so wrong so many times. People in other fields also got it all wrong, of course, but then they didn’t claim to be particularly serious about their speculation.)
I'm taking the "just following orders" perspective of an engineer in a large organization. I've heard that in FAANG, giving interviews was an unspoken prerequisite to promotion -- that's at least incentive to _do_ interviews.

In the places where I've worked, I'm not sure there was much incentive to do interviews, and there was _no_ incentive to do them well. So, few interviews were done well.

Maybe somebody further up the ownership ladder would recognize that a company is just a group of people, and hiring well makes the company. But those owners do not participate in the interviews.

edit: Those owners delegate hiring to others, reasonably, but every layer of delegation changes the incentives.
Nor Big Ag, Big Supplement, or Big Restaurant shareholders (and don't forget the many livelihoods dependant upon same.)
There was absolute radio silence from the Kremlin until the afternoon. I am sure he made good use of this time to flee the sinking ship like a rat.
Under current law FDIC member banks pay assessments on their total liabilities, which include uninsured deposits. Account holders do not directly pay anything for deposit insurance, and what they do pay is largely in the form of lower interest.

The only thing worth paying for would be paying a bank custodial fees so they do not lend out your deposits to anyone. Otherwise it is the banks responsibility to insure funds that they are allowed to legally lend to others, to make good on the very idea of a deposit (as opposed to a loan) in the first place.
> Lawyers certainly seem to think you can, as they always have a huge legal blob at the bottom of their emails

The Economist doesn't seem to share your view:
https://archive.is/1ahEz (https://www.economist.com/business/2011/04/07/spare-us-the-e...)

"Spare us the e-mail yada-yada"

"Automatic e-mail footers are not just annoying. They are legally useless"

Looking at / searching around this with a wider lens, in some cases the footers seem to serve a function in clarifying the intent of the mail (e.g. "this mail does not establish an attorney-client relationship") when the remainder of the mail may be unclear. But that's not a license or contract, that's a clarification of intent.

And with this I'll take my leave from this discussion as it no longer feels fruitful. But Thanks for the interesting thought exercise!
And that is (thankfully) solved by the undown/unvote buttons
Google Might Owe You Money. Here’s How to Get It
> Such a strict interpretation of copyright would kill Open Source, as any attempt at reverse engineering would be disallowed by that.

Not at all, for multiple reasons. Reverse-engineering already has that problem: if any of the people who do the reverse engineering also work on the code, it's entirely possible for some of the reverse-engineered code to end up in the new code, making the new code a derivative work of the original. There are standard ways to carefully avoid that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_room_design

(Also, reverse engineering is a small fraction of Open Source.)

> Furthermore it would mean that only big and rich companies would have AI, as they can do behind closest doors whatever they want with AI, Open Source licenses only cover redistribution after all, which internal use doesn't fall under.

The moment they distribute anything written by the model, the same problem applies. And if they don't redistribute anything written by the model, then sure, they can do anything they like, just as you're free to internally combine GPLed and proprietary code if you never ship the result. (Note, though, that many companies have figured out it's a bad idea to do this, because it creates a combination you cannot ever distribute, and circumstances might change in the future to lead you to want to distribute it.)

> Meanwhile any attempt at publicly available open AI models would instantly get killed by copyright claims.

No, they just need to actually pay attention to the licenses of work they train on. Train on permissively licensed code, document every codebase trained on, and record the licenses and copyright notices.
Unpopular opinion: OpenAI is severely underpaying these folks at 900k considering so many asset managers / PMs in finance basically hug S&P 500 and get 1.5m+
Nobody here is asking to be excused.
https://archive.ph/4khhN
There's a Telegram post supposedly from Prigozhin saying the negotiations failed. I think it's too early for us to know what's really going on.
Microsoft achieves first milestone towards a quantum supercomputer
Write a Ruby C Extension to Use Clips from Ruby: Part 2
This is the second part in a series for writing Ruby extensions in C. This article focuses on converting Ruby VALUEs into CLIPSValues so that you can assert values from a Ruby program into a CLIPS Rules Engine.
To be realistic ... 300K in the bay is barely livable if you're targeting a middle class life with kids and targeting retiring at 65.

First, ~46% of it is gone in taxes including federal tax (~25%), state tax (~8%), FICA (~4%), and sales tax on everything you eventually use the money for (~9%).

So that's 162K left. Not a lot to pay sky-high rents, car payments, insane medical bills despite insurance, lawyers to fight said bills, save up money for parental elderly care, save up money for yourself for retirement, etc.

And yeah, having kids on that money? Very difficult.

If you're not in the bay area, different story, it's a very nice income. But they probably won't give you that package if you're remote.

And if you're in the bay and not planning on having kids, it's an okay salary.
Calling "Object.freeze()" and then asking for the keys/values/entries of a frozen object should be able to return a properly-typed value.

But it doesn't do this =(
I find it more interesting that the sole proprietor landscaper doesn’t just become a developer and make $900k a year.

Extrapolate this to literally anyone making less than a developer.
And also understand that JD makes all of its money from traditional auto manufacturers and has no legal obligation or accountability for accuracy or lack of bias
Engineers at Google aren't supposed to be designing new products, they ostensibly have separate people for that.
Famines are primarily a political problem, not a technological problem. Our technology has improved agricultural productivity and distribution efficiency, but that doesn't matter when men with guns are stealing food from starving people.
There certainly are. The Google Developer Documentation Style Guide includes some (imo, non-exhaustive) examples of when to use the passive voice[1]:

> To emphasize an object over an action.
> To de-emphasize a subject or actor.
> If your readers don't need to know who's responsible for the action.

Sometimes you end up twisting yourself into knottier linguistic pretzels trying to make something active (for active's sake) instead of just using the passive voice deliberately.

https://developers.google.com/style/voice#exceptions
> my main point of departure from you is really just the apparent characterisation of the Wrights contemporaries as not following the scientific method and approaching the whole problem in a haphazard and isolated way.

It's not about the scientific method. It's about a directed research and development program. I just don't see any of the other experimenters doing that. I didn't say they were isolated, either, but they were haphazard. They tried to leap right from an unproven theory to a working airplane. Their airplanes were not even close to flying, which is evidence of their haphazardness. The other evidence is the lack of a trail of documentation - notes, calculations, drawings, etc. Disorganized and haphazard, absolutely.

Which one of them identified control as a crucial element of flight, for example? Which one did the calculations to show they had enough power? Heck, which ones did the calculations to make the airframe strong enough? The Langley Aerodrome fell apart on launch, Pilcher died because his glider broke up in flight. Many copied bird designs rather than trying to figure out what the right shape should be.

An airplane is not like inventing a car, where you can just attach an engine to some wheels, eyeball the whole thing, and it'll work. You have to do the math and the engineering. Eyeballing something that looks like a bird and sticking an engine on it will NEVER WORK.

> with incomplete but growing knowledge of the science behind what they were trying to do.

One of them would have eventually succeeded, just like the Japanese eventually figured out how to make a Samurai sword after centuries of trial and error, but no knowledge of metallurgy.

And that is why the Wrights were different.

You can see the Wrights' notebooks in the Smithsonian. Take a look at that, and you'll see they are not mere bicycle mechanics. We still have the 1903 Flyer, too, and people have built exacting replicas of it - that fly, and fly the way the Wrights described how it flew.

The only rival with some documentation is the Aerodrome, and we know it does not fly for many reasons. The other rivals left next to nothing behind, and nobody has successfully gotten a replica (built from guesswork) to fly at all.
> 97% of the Russian Army

3% is not enough to keep the lights in a country this big.

It's no question where are the most but 3%? Doubt it.
People are different, it shows up in how they eat too. Someone may be uncomfortable doing IF but it may feel completely fine to another. I don't think passing a judgment of "eating disorder" is necessary.
This article is also essentially available as a podcast. https://oxide.computer/podcasts/on-the-metal/kenneth-finnega...
It all depend on what analogies we use. If we see the algorithmic compression to be similar to converting a 4k video to a lower resolution, the legal system seems to view it as a copy despite it being a lossy compression.

If we take the input data of a average website and look at the data inside a search engine indexing, it will likely contain more bits from the original than converting a 4k video down to a 144p, youtubes smallest video format. We do however view the index to be fair use while the 144p video to be similar enough to the original to be considered a copy.

Those kinds of discussion always reminds me of early discussions around freenet. A file get encrypted and then split into 32KiB files. Multiple files can share identical 32KiB blocks, which means no single block can be definitively owned by a single file. The argument was then that this bypassed copyright law, since just copying blocks would not be proof of copying. This question is also unresolved, but given the outcome of all file sharing sites in the past, it is doubtful that it would succeed in convincing a judge.

In the end that is what this is coming down to. What would a judge/jury say. All I know for certain is that the film and music industry will never accept an model that is trained on their products and that directly competes with their products by producing substitutes that are close or seemingly identical to the originals. They will not care a second if its similar to a search engine indexing. Unstable Diffusion is also a perfect example where politicians will likely do something if large companies start to generate money by producing porn that is trained on famous politicians, actors and celebrates.
What’s your point?

Just because you don’t know how to analyze an iOS application doesn’t mean it’s not possible.

I understand that some people want to fully control their smartphone. But lack of root isn’t something that prevents E2EE communication.

And if you don’t trust neither Google nor Apple, fine. You can still run Signal on Linux. (Or Matrix, OMEMO, etc.)
You can do that, but it comes at the cost of no wage increases. If you can’t leave, you have no leverage.
Five key dimensions of post-growth business: Putting the pieces together (2021)
UBI will just be everyone getting paid dividends from OpenAI stock
Are you here to just brag? Also the dollar sign goes on the other side.
Only if your company allows you to sell your shares and only if you work for a company where there is and interest and even then you’re going to be required to sell at a discount.

I know exactly how much my shares are worth on my spreadsheet -

=GOOGLEFINANCE("AMZN", "price") * number of shares
You can never prove that there are others. Neither can you prove that there is a self. There is just consciousness, overlaid by various experiences, which we tend to attribute to a substantial self. So it doesn't make sense to ask for a proof that others have consciousness, until you can define self/others properly.
This is a strange take that seems best described as "raciphobia". It's not "bs" to ask whether or suggest that a creative work was inspired by a stereotype.

There's the creator's intent which can't really be known. Then there's the observer's interpretation which is equally valid.