skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Another theory of mine is that survival instincts is (or is part of or is strongly linked to) consciousness.

Take an AI for example, like say gpt4, and picture it being tought or being able of survival instincts. How would one differentiate such a beast from life?

I know it's imprecise at best but still, Id bet the key is there. Maybe the question should not be "what is consciousness?" but rather "what is survival instincts?".
Right you are correct. But true talent on any random team is easily worth 3x the average salary on that team. Im speaking about programmers here
2006: Facebook is made available to the general public

2007: iPhone launches

hence, Peak Desktop Internet = 2007ish, (a little under) twentyish years ago
My takeaway was similar — the problem is one of how we define "vehicle". Is it anything that moves, anything that carries a person, is it a toy model of a vehicle, etc., etc., etc..

Without that definition, almost anything resembling an edge case becomes an argument.

Similarly, without specifying the intent, it becomes impossible to decide the argument, because easily two people can have legitimately different views; e.g., the rule is to prevent anything putting more pressure on the ground than a footfall (so basically anything w/wheels is a problem, including emergency vehicles, but a sled might be is OK), to anything fast-moving and massive (so toys, airplanes, & spacecraft are OK), to some arbitrary rule from a psycho-dictator owner...

I.e., if you want people to make sense of the rules, they need to start with a simple clear definition (this does OK in that dept.), specify the extent (what to include and exclude) specify the intent, and maybe provide examples of how to decide edge cases so that others can reason about them.
Well, I'm glad I won't run into the author while traveling. They sound miserable and bitter.
Can we define talent. Also context matters. Some companies have lower "talent density" because their size requires some level of operational headcount.
Except the high end will actually be the majority of the US population who don't have issues affording healthcare.

Would I like to make things better for the bottom third? Absolutely. Am I happy about progress made that will improve the life of the rest of us? Also yes.
The BBC did a good piece on this a few weeks ago that includes multiple interviews with people in NK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiviOdWDl9o
what does stalin have to do with this article
The reasons where I reach for VSCode are mostly due to lack of alternatives, like several Microsoft tools for Azure that only exist as VSCode plugins.

Or PowerShell IDE, equally replaced by VSCode.

It is definitely being forced in some cases.
I still like visiting Chinatown when I get back that way. When I was a kid, dad always took me to the Golden Gate Fortune Cookie Factory, and I still stop there every time. Haven't lived in the Bay Area for almost 10 years now, though.
Ha. Just tried to upvote your comment and opened your profile instead. Still appreciate the information density, but I can see how it’s a pain for people who are more active here than I.
> I'm not the one cheerleading over any mass Twitter migrations to Mastodon with normal users

Again you keep rambling, obsessed about this thing that's irrelevant to the linked article and the comments here.

> as much as your are or using anecdotes and fantasies which can be easily dismissed.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

> we both know that logicprog didn't show the whole timeline since 2016.

Yes, logicprog gave the link https://mastodon-analytics.com/ that has stats from Oct 22 to June 23, which is not the full history of Mastodon. But so what? logicprog didn't make any historical claims. I'm guessing that logicprog perhaps just googled for that link, and it came up in the search results. I have no insight into the design of that website.

> You just don't like the fact that what I said is true.

I don't even understand what I'm supposed to not like? I've already stated clearly, several times that I like the fact that Mastodon is much smaller than Twitter.

> Mastodon users (and its die hards) know that it has been there for 7 - 8 years.

Yes, this is an indisputable empirical fact. So what?

> Then 'finally' other users took a look at it in November 2022, left and didn't look back hence the 'slump' in users.

I personally joined in late 2022 and stayed.

> It is still unimpressive. In comparison, Nostr has 3M total signed up in less than a year. [0]

I don't quite understand how nostr defines "users", but in any case, from your own link:

Users: 318,981

Trusted users: 82,323

Daily active users: between 7000 and 9000

Weekly active users: between 18,000 and 20,000

And the retention of users, 30 days after signup is pretty close to 0%. So I'm at a total loss about what you're celebrating.

> Now when tested in November 2022, normal users tried it, weren't impressed and left

It's not clear that "normal" users even tried it. Mastodon never had 200 million accounts at any time, or anywhere close to that number.

By the way, lots of people also try Twitter and abandon it. That's par for the course on any social network.

> In principle, it is a failure. Even Eugen knows this paradox. Following the UX failure of being unable to onboard normal users from Twitter to Mastodon, they chose a 'default instance' to sign up in the official mobile app.

I wouldn't say that's an in principle failure. It's an issue, to be sure, and as I said, Mastodon "could use some improvements". But the goal was never to migrate and onboard every Twitter user, so the onboarding difficulties don't make the project a failure. It's a thriving community nonetheless.

> The problem is however, whilst everyone was too focused on Twitter's death which didn't happen last year

I would replace "everyone" with "you". ;-)
Is it? At some companies that’s the baseline title for engineers, data scientists etc.
> Even if you did get it working, there is a very good chance that only Adobe Reader/Acrobat would support it.

I'm not sure about this. At least on Linux, where I just tested - I have in-document jump links working across Chromium, Firefox, Evince, Okular, and even KOReader. Tested on a random arxiv PDF[0]. Chromium and KOReader don't highlight links, but clicking them still works.

[0]: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2305.06424.pdf
Is it interesting?

I am that person for myself, for my first year in the workforce.

I am also that person for myself when I was studying in college.

I think it is only interesting in the case when you are performing the exact same job, and yet the compensation varies by an order of magnitude or more.
> Skill issue

Presumably you're talking about the HN developers' skills?
It's often used in scientific publishing where it is preferred over executable code.
Im a grad student in philosophy, and this one unfortunately risks perpetuating the annoying myth that philosophers are somehow in competition with the natural sciences — usually believed by people who have literally never taken any courses in philosophy. Quine said that philosophical inquiry is continuous with empirical inquiry, but I think it’d be fine to say that it’s just complementary.
Was it you who flagged my post? Can you please argue to the moderators that my expression should go uncensored?
There are many kinds of Intel server CPUs with E-cores, with up to 24 E-cores, which are branded Atom, not Xeon, and which are less known, because they are mainly intended to be integrated in various telecommunication systems, e.g. in mobile phone infrastructure.

Intel server CPUs with E-cores that will use the Xeon brand, because they will have much more cores (6-times more, i.e. 144 vs. 24) than the current models, are announced for 2024.
You are making a rational argument against an irrational and faceless adversary who wrote and continues to defend the guidelines which proscribe political discussion as being contemptuous.

It's simply not the proper venue because the policy admits so much distain and misunderstanding of politics that it can't effectively carve out a proper space for such discussion.

And further, the policy admits it cannot trust either participants or the voting system in place to manage such conversations. As soon as one person with power to flag, that's it.

These conversations inevitably make HN management nervous. Since they can't cope with it, no one else is allowed to.
> mediocre and unaccomplished men

This is so, so much to extrapolate from simply missing a college degree.
The problem is there is not standard way to test, everyone’s mode is beating OpenAI but then it was found to be a subset. They all deserve not to be trusted till they allow people to try it in real world
> You can't just purchase a "deluxe cybersecurity firewall appliance" and plug it into your network, even if it costs $50,000

Those cost a quarter of a million per year nowadays...
You can do this with all nominal types too. Imagine types Parent and Child. Child has more properties, yet satisfies the contract of Parent. If you enumerate all the properties of some arbitrary Parent p, you may get some extra properties.
I think this is a significant reason why authoritarian figures like Xi and Putin have strong support from the populace.
No. Nobody tells me anything about general strategies, tech or otherwise, so if/wherever such things exist, they're a no-op on HN.
I rather suspect, they'll know you.
Based on what I've seen/heard, they seem to follow a similar comp philosophy to Netflix -- pay top of market to get the best people.

But it's also important to note that only $300K of that is in cash. The other $600K is in profit participation, which could take years (maybe even a decade!) to be realized. It could also be worth $6M a year when it's realized.

But ultimately it's an investment of your time. Or to think of it another way, you're getting paid $900K a year but you're also investing $600K a year in OpenAI, which may end up being an amazing return or nothing at all, just like any startup investment.

Although with Sam at the helm, my guess is it will probably be worth more than $600K a year.
jaybrendansmith made a good response. I would say more broadly, COVID happened, and could happen again. We need to understand how.

If it was natural in origin, we need to identify risk factors that we can minimize going forward.

And if it was lab-bourne somehow... Well ditto! Maybe we shut down this kind of research. Maybe we need better safety protocols. I don't know.

I know people are dead and won't undie if we understand this. But it seems to me to be totally against the essence of science to say, let's not investigate because it doesn't matter. It massively does. Just as understanding of the origin of the Universe, or our Solar System matters, or the human evolution, even though there too, at face value, such information has no use.
OpenAI PPUs are no different than stock in a growing-but-unprofitable company like old Amazon. You don't have to wait for dividends; you can sell your PPUs to speculators who expect returns in the future.
Does it catch if you attempt to use a more complex type as a key? (In which case, you should use a Map instead of an object.) I wonder if you should be using `T extends string | number`
Do the PPU's create an alignment issue? I mean, theoretically these folks are supposed to be working towards AGI, but doing it safely... but I can imagine that an extra 500K+ is a pretty big incentive to hurry up and create something that can help you make a profit so that they can get their payout. Of course, with the outside investment from Microsoft, maybe this is somewhat moot anyways as MSFT definitely has a very strong incentive to get OpenAI to build fast.
Because the PPU equity isn’t worth anything until they’re profitable.
> It was paid out of unrelated bank-funded insurance.

Every insurance system on the planet works like that, or is intended to, and FDIC insurance is no exception. Insurable risks covered by a large customer base. Institutions that present a higher risk pay higher rates.

The FDIC cannot actually go bankrupt under any conceivable conditions because by law FDIC member banks are required to cover the costs, even extraordinary costs as might be presented by a major financial crisis. And fortunately the sector as a whole has ample resources to do so even under conditions as severe as the Great Depression. The $128 billion that the FDIC has on hand is nothing compared to the ~$7 trillion in bank assets in excess of liabilities that are backing it up.
> The real question is, why do people look to random web pages prior to having digested everything in the manual?

Easy! It is a reference manual. It documents every feature, even those that you should not use, does not discuss pitfalls, and does not discuss the best practice. Even worse, there is sometimes a disagreement whether using a particular feature is a good practice. Often there is a factor of adjusting your code style to something that is not too advanced for other people to review.
Their pay has also collapsed, unlike women in a similar position.
Since Phobos isnt areostationary, the base of your tether on mars would have to move around for this to work. Additionally, you would have to constantly adjust its length. Therefore, boarding the elevator would be more difficult.
> Barter economies never had inflationary periods.

Barter economies have also never existed in human societies. They have either been gift economies (esp. with smaller tribes) or credit economies (records dating back to the earliest tables from Mesopotamia and Ancient Egypt). See:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt:_The_First_5000_Years

For a more recent example of a society becoming pure credit, see:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_bank_strikes_(1966–1976)

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFIQWWt4UaA
I like this but I think it's generally preferable to have something like "unsafe" in the name, e.g. objectKeysUnsafe.

Reason being it's very easy for a new developer to come along and see "objectKeys" being used all over the place, and then assume it's safe to use everywhere without realizing the problem it could cause. Putting "unsafe" in the name (unsafe actually feels a little strong for me, maybe something like "lax" or something else would be better?) makes it a lot more likely that a new dev is at least going to look up the doc on the function to see why it's unsafe.
This is a site where I have seen people say that light grey text on a tan-grey(?) background is actually a good thing, which reminds me of two relevant bits of history.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norrmalmstorg_robbery

and

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_von_Sacher-Masoch
>The Intel Xeons don’t have E-cores.

Xeons with E-cores are planned: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierra_Forest

And even if they weren't, it would still be a cheap PR win.

>Also, you know AMD has recent consumer chips without AVX-512, right?

All the current generation processors (Zen4) support AVX-512, both mobile and desktop. It may be confusing because AMD's numbering scheme is intentionally misleading and they sell previous gen chips with new model numbers.
Yes and the doctype is "<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final//EN">", and there's inline style at "<body bgcolor=white>". Even though the footer says "last updated 2021" and there are links dated 2015, I suspect the page is otherwise unchanged from its initial late-90s/early 2000s design.
Small note: @dang doesn’t do anything, if you were expecting that. Messaging hn@ycombinator.com will work, though.
Everyone is a member of technical staff.
MTS is usually what a recent college graduate gets promoted to, once they've passed their sort of 1 year trial period. You can +/- that timeline about a year, but more or less that's what it is, at least from what I've seen in SF.
Precisely, the story of the Titanic is nearly ubiquitous. A fair amount of Americans probably couldn’t even locate the Mediterranean on a map.
I guess the first part of that is like netflix, but as you know the second part is not since netflix is 100% cash unless you want to participate some portion of that in the employee stock plan.
You don't even need Nightly since February, version 110 added it :)
I see your point (and said something similar in a different comment) but at the same time, the two stories differ in ways that touch the core of what HN is about—so this isn't just an arbitrary call.

For example, that story was less likely to degrade into flamewar; this one is highly likely to. That story, although morbid, had more entry points for intellectually interesting conversation than this one. That story was closer to HN's sweet spot topic-wise; this one is far from it. That story was likely to be accurately reported because it wasn't high-stakes politically; precisely the opposite for this one. That story was less likely to get dominated by predictable talking points and pre-existing opinions [1]; this story is likely to get little else. And so on.

There's a higher-level consideration too: it isn't a good idea for HN to be too consistent. That would be predictable, predictability is uninteresting, and we're trying to optimize for the opposite [2]. The best strategy is the other way around: try to be unpredictable from any sequence [3]. So any time you see $foo-story-1, $foo-story-2, for any value of $foo, it's best to steer away from $foo-story-3. I know this is frustrating for people who prefer formal, predictable rules, but it's good for curiosity.

Unfortunately, it's also frustrating for people who have legit reasons to care deeply about $foo-story-3, and that's a different phenomenon—I empathize with that feeling and it's not something we're doing on purpose. All I can say is that such topics exist for every reader, so everyone ends up getting frustrated in this way. Hopefully it evens out in the long run.

Edit: all that said, I reread the comments and found your and others' argument more persuasive than my own, so https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36460937 is currently on the front page.

[1] (we did get predictable raging against corner-cutting billionaires, but that was about it)

[2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

[3] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
Social media can, though.
In that case you can use Firefox Mobile and Tampermonkey addon to inject custom CSS.
I wonder how long this was going on, and how widespread it was too. Because it seems difficult to pull this off. I don't know what "Freightliner" is, some kind of OBD-II software that queries the truck's computer for a second opinion? Anyway, anyone who knows about trucks, and knows FedEx, should be able to do some back-of-the-envelope math and estimate that if they're selling a truck too old to use in service, it must have multiple hundreds of thousands of miles on it, and surely at least a few would suspect something's up if that odometer is off by another few hundred thousands of miles. Because really, you're purchasing a used truck at auction, did you really expect it to be driven by a Little Old Lady from Pasadena to church every Sunday?
The unfortunate reality is that those elite circles usually do have the best among them. And having worked in FAANGs, there is some aspect of meritocracy, the code doesnt lie
So do you gotta grind leetcode for this or what
sort of. ambiguity is a nice feature of language. it wouldn't confuse anyone to say you were digging into your computer's consciousness.
(2022)

Abstract of the actual paper: (https://www.bostonfed.org/publications/research-department-w...)

Data indicate that more frequent labor force exit among men without a four-year college degree has been driving the decline in the US prime-age (25 to 54) men’s labor force participation rate over the last 40 years. At the same time, non-college men’s earnings measured as a share of the average earnings of all prime-age workers have fallen by more than 30 percent since 1980. In light of these parallel trends, this paper investigates whether prime-age noncollege men are more inclined to leave the labor force when their expected earnings fall relative to the earnings of other workers in their labor market. The empirical model takes into account that a job not only provides economic security but also affirms a worker’s social status, which is tied to their position relative to their age-range peers. The sample consists of state-occupation-level panel data on labor force exit rates, occupation earnings, and job loss risk matched with information on the state-level earnings distribution and a set of state socioeconomic controls over the period 1980 through 2019.
If OpenAI has a monopoly on AGI within the current neoliberal capitalist framework they'll make trillions before the system collapses. It's like Aramco but bigger.
Their job postings are (were?) certainly...a thing. I can't find the page (maybe I hallucinated it), but I remember reading a line that was essentially "we only want famous ML/AI researchers and engineers, others need not apply". When I read it a few months ago I said "yeah, that makes sense, everyone wants to work for you right now" and closed the page. It looks like they are casting a wider net now, though.
How do we trust the firmware from a company that had backdoors in their product open to the world? The first time there was a lot of 'well any multi-team product devs could screw up..'

but the second time it was exposed they knew of the open exploit for quite some time and chose not to patch it right?
Tampermonkey is available in the stable Firefox app too, btw.

Though I wish Stylus supported Firefox mobile, it's better for CSS as it only does CSS.
I think it's also related to this https://time.com/6287012/why-finding-job-is-difficult/

There are so many hurdles, especially for 'average' people without exceptional, sought skills or talents or infinite patience, that they just say 'fuck it' and either move in with parents or other family, move in with friends, go on disability, or drop out of society in other ways.

Companies keep saying there is a labor shortage, or that they need work, or that people do not want to work, yet at the same time make it so hard to actually get hired. so much pre-employment screening.
Yes, the first part of the philosophy, pay top of market. Not the second part, where they employee gets to choose their level of exposure to investment risk. But Netflix is a public company, and OpenAI is not.
The part about paying top of market to get the best talent is the same. The breakdown of comp is not.
There is actually simple explanation for both.

Submarine got lot of undeserved attention. In my country it is called "cucumber season", when basically non-event will get lot of coverage because lack of other events, usually during summer.

The migrant trawler has cynical, but simple explanation too. Refugee are coming to Europe since 2014. They are often behaving entitled towards Europeans, assaulting them, especially women and girls. Thus few of them drowning in the sea does not create any compassion in Europeans. It is ugly truth, but when my neighbor will be making my life living hell for years and then his house catches fire, I am not going to feel compassion either.
> To me, the answer to all of the questions was crystal-clear.

isn't that the exact thing this points attention to? When you have power, everything is clear. But _your_ clear isn't necessarily same as anyone else's clear

thus percentages aren't 100%, as shown
I think the point is people earning $8/hr 40 hrs/wk 40 years = $665k total for a lifetime's work. Of course most people in the world earn much less than this.
I find it interesting too. Also interesting to see how I measure with regard to my parents.
> The question is also 'why does a human form a single consciousness?'.

It doesn't seem to. When dreaming, it's possible to carry out conversations with other "people" in the dream which are indistinguishable from conscious beings you meet when awake. There's usually a single "self" in dreams, but the brain certainly seems to form extra consciousnesses on demand which react as though they had a sense of "self".
Also, what sign? GP made that up too.