skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
The iPhone is capable of playing plenty of mobile games downloaded through the app store, but can't play a mobile game that came through some other channel, so the closer analogy is "my Ferrari has 600hp and can go 200mph down interstate A/B/C, since they were inspected by Ferrari, but is prevented from driving on interstates D through Z because they didn't jump through the hoops to get inspected by Ferrari".
Oh is it? Your mind isn't part of your body? In civilized society, people can't even touch you without your consent. Why do they have complete freedom to inject disinformation and spam into your mind with complete impunity? I won't accept it.

I don't know about you but I consider my mind even more sacred than my body. It's not some advertiser's playground for them to spam their bullshit with complete impunity. I will resist that abuse. I don't need to "deserve" it. I'm not alone either. It's hard enough to cope with attention deficit without these spammers around.
Related from the last 12 months

"Ask HN: What is the best password manager available today?" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35845612

"Ask HN: Password manager with user-defined cloud storage" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34143852

"Ask HN: Which password manager do you use?" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31848243
I think thats what's so unnerving about this stuff and driving all the "yeah but it actually sucks" type of articles.

The possibility that we really are just stochastic parrots is too much for people.
You forgot "round it up the next order of magnitude"
If they destroy the sustainable part of their business right as they go into IPO, that won't look good at all. Also they would need to currate tens of thousands of communities, many about niche subjects, in a variety of languages. Reddit simply does not function without the community moderating itself. Even Twitter relies on the community to add warnings under tweets at scale.
Same here, phpBB and vBulletin are basically what kick started my career, though I had built a ton of small static html sites before when I was in HS. I built a small but still pretty big community. I think the board ended with ~30k users, not all active, but still. I only just shut it down a few years ago. Reddit essentially killed it, and once I actually got a job it was harder to maintain my presence there and keep up with the personalities. Never made a dime from it, but it ended up being a solid investment.

I still have all of the files, etc, the database is a monster. So, I could theoretically put it back up. Took it from phpBB to vBulletin 3.6 to 4 to 5, so it was an older and long lasting. I remember setting it up my freshman year in college ('06) taking advantage of a protest of moderators on a different board (they were reading user's PMs). Some of my favorite internet memories came from internet forums. The thing I always hated about vB though is that even a minor update could cause part of a custom theme to break, and the CP felt dated, even in the early 2000s. Finding a theme template or option was so overly complicated.
If it were the text they would put it after the recipe instead of before. That the recipe comes last means they want you to scroll past the text.
That's true. However the solution solves both problems. If I can delete my post by invalidating the proof, then no one can "undelete" it.
I know it feels like the entire medical and scientific establishments are against you, but please know that you're not alone, not by a long shot.
Louis Rossmann did a video with his take on this specific topic if anyone's interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nXVljRUnoc
AI Weekly Digest – Eddie on AI
I would say Wikipedia has been overly aggressive in their fundraising

But it hasn't enshittified

I would be really happy if Reddit ended up like Wikipedia. You can argue that Wikipedia could make better use of their funds (you can always argue that), but look at what Reddit did with their funds

They basically dug a big hole and are ruining the product to get out of it. I'd rather Wikipedia have extra cash than be in the hole, and desperate
> 6. Not accounting for seasonality

Doesn't the online nature of an A/B automatically account for this?
Massachusetts could probably double down and say “no car can be registered in the state of Massachusetts not in compliance with right-to-repair by 202X”.

Then, even with federal preemption, the auto manufacturers would be forced to comply.
If you're talking about the ginormous default subs, then yeah -- the landed gentry analogy is kind of apt. You can't just make your own alternative to r/pics or whatever and expect to gain traction without some unique angle and a lot of work.

(Although, again, this is how open source works as well. You can't just fork Debian or ffmpeg or Rails and expect a community on Day 1...)

If you're talking about the "long tail" of smaller subs, those get forked/replaced all of the time if there are mod issues or if somebody just has an idea to cover a specific topic from a different angle.

For an example, a lot of people didn't like the moderation tactics of r/audiophile, nor their refusal to look at affordable gear, so some of us made r/budgetaudiophile. We serve different parts of the audience and we cooperate with eachother. And both of us refer headphone-related questions to r/headphones. That is an example of things actually working Extremely Well.

Reddit is in an interesting position. I think its only real value is that long tail. That is where the actual valuable content+community is. The ginormous generalist subs get huge traffic but are utterly disposable - there's no real reason to get your memes or whatever from Reddit vs ICanHazCheezeburger vs random meme-based Facebook group etc etc etc etc etc.
Maybe they should replace all comments and posts with something like

"This content was removed by the user in protest of Reddit's draconian actions toward third party developers."
The shittiest thing is to think that "devops" is a team or profession or group of people or some practices for admins. DevOps is the paradigm which have to be followed by the company which generates revenue online.
Not really, it's not like Apollo has 90% of the 3rd party app users, there are tons of other apps, and this would have happened regardless. Apollo just gave them a martyr to make it a bit easier
It's not that everybody wants the API to be free. Like couple it with Reddit Premium and rate-limit the hell out of free usage.

Even the Apollo dev said that he might have been able to pass down the ridiculous price tag down to his users. But not on such short notice, especially after been told earlier this year that no change in API usage would coming this year.

This is just bad management and now really bad PR. I can't see that this is good for the IPO. Who in their right mind will throw money at this site now?
We're both being downvoted but you're absolutely right. These are core issues and spez finally seems to be addressing them.

I wonder if the crowd going to Lemmy is the Merari set - if so that's a huge potential improvement for Reddit and a curse for Lemmy.

"Y'all can't behave" is such a weird meme, it's so patronizing.
Yeah, I just tend to give one star and a review along the lines of "was pretty good, but popped up a marketing window that interfered with using the app." At least with the required Apple UI for the popup the app can't filter that out before it goes to Apple, although I assume this kind of review gets filtered out without consequence somewhere in the pipeline.
On-Cloud Licensing
I gave up on twitter because of musk, and will now give up on Reddit.

What’s left ? I like hacker news for tech and went back to Facebook for city groups, which are way better than all the doom in reddit city subs anyways
You know who else feeds their output back into their own input?

People who develop delusions that eventually lead to a psychotic break.

I literally watched a friend do this over the course a few days before his family got him into a mental hospital. It started through an exploration of narratives and then generating arbitrary narratives, then a short hop to seeing every narrative as arbitrarily generated ...
>As a side note, screaming "It's too late: hurry up!" is really an idiot way to advocate your cause, whatever your cause may be.

“It is too late to save your foot. It has been damaged beyond saving by your inaction. But with aggressive action on your part, you could save some of your legs and delay the loss of your other foot. It's too late: hurry up!”
You're right, of course.

The video amused me. I got to thinking - what if the first communication was just spam!
Your failure to distinguish memory errors from logic errors does not mean that rust didn't succeed at eliminating the former.
I think what kevinwang is getting at, is that if you A/B test with a static version A and enough versions of B, at some point you will get statistically significant results if you repeat it often enough.

Having a control doesn't mean you can't fall victim to this.
I can see "Don't worry kiddo, someone else is gonna die for all your emissions" fitting really well in christian gospel, too.
Dude stop gatekeeping what people can say on here and go find something better to do with your day.
It's been shown that people are able to rip headlights out of vehicles, plug into diagnostic ports behind them, unlock the doors and start the car. [1]

If criminals are able to figure out and exploit a relatively simple compromise, what other exploitable secrets are auto manufacturers hiding using obscurity that right to repair would expose to the public?

Any US residents know if the NHTSA is captured by corporate interests, or are they relatively free of corruption?

[1]https://www.thedrive.com/news/shadetree-hackers-are-stealing...
How does Machine Learning work? A conceptual overview for anyone
Reminds me a bit of Closh: https://github.com/dundalek/closh
which is now on hiatus. babashka: https://babashka.org
however, is in full bloom for scripting thanks to a relentless Borkdude and the GraalVM project.
As best I can tell, the application of modern AI techniques is a shallow attempt to monetize corporate interest in "efficiency." Small caps outside <anything>aaS are "highly motivated" to increase profits because they're in industries who must deliver financial results to be considered successful. Our industry has sold them mostly a bill of goods (though not completely) by saying "hey. replace those unpredictable and expensive humans with a chat bot." That the chat bot is wholly non-functional for the proposed application is beside the point. The company purchasing the bot gets to tell their investors they're taking actionable steps to reduce expenses and the company selling the bot gets cash (or factorizable debt.) No one will understand the bot did not do what it was supposed to do for at least 18 months, by that time the people purchasing the bot and the people selling the bot will be gone, having already collected their commission or quarterly bonus.

This is not to say there aren't real applications for LLMs and <foo>NNs. But I hope we're at the peak of the hype curve because I've heard some people say some pretty ridiculous things about what ChatGPT can do.

My best case scenario is we have about 6 months of hype left before the marks start wising up. Then two business cycles before people read up on what the tech was actually capable of and a smaller market emerges servicing niche requirements where there is demonstratable benefit.

Worst case scenario is we continue on the "let's use ChatGPT for everything without having a fundamental understanding of what it is" course and blindly trust poorly trained models. At night the ice weasels come.

Reality will probably be somewhere in the middle: we'll lose 5 years of productivity while everyone stops and spends cash on "repositioning" their organizations to maximize the benefit of AI. When we realize we were shoveling money into the bank accounts of kids who simply learned to repeat words like "convolutional" and "radiance" in sentences that sounded impressive to people unfamiliar with the technology... then we'll fire everyone who recommended using AI. And then a few organizations will realize modern AI does have some benefits, but it still requires work to extract their value (i.e.- as an exec, you have to read up on what the tech can reasonably be expected to do consistently.)

In other words... it's the sili valley business cycle.

Anyone want to buy my FTX, WeWork or Theranos stock?
My question is why can't reddit provide multiple tiers of api access for different audiences.

* Want to scrape all of reddit for your fucking ML nightmare, that will be 1 billion dollars.

* Want to write a reddit 3rd party app without serving reddit's ads? Thats some price point.

* Want to write a reddit 3rd party app and display within some parameters the ads they place into the api feed? Thats cheaper than no ad serving.

* Just a personal api project maybe to help admin your sub or help you in some other way. Free under some kind of reasonable rate limit.
Come on the length of the index into Pi is anywhere between 0 and infinity. I don't think anyone feels defrauded. If anything this is a gambler's dream!
Top down management is limited, but they set the criteria for promotions and bonuses, and the layers underneath at least pay lip service to the criteria, and employees respond to incentives for the most part.

If you reward new products and don't reward continuing support on products without enough revenue/growth, that looks a lot like Google.
> and people who dig up these funny examples of people bemoaning imminent decline from thousands of years ago don't usually bring up this part or the dark ages that followed.

Because of confirmation bias. When doomsday prophets are wrong, they're rarely remembered. When doomsday prophets are right, was it because they had insight that others lacked or was it simple chance?
Working on expanding SocialsDetox[0] functionality to overcome possible blocking limitations due to OS[1][2][3] behaviour.

[0] https://socialsdetox.com/r/sdh
[1] https://blog.disconnect.me/ios-vpn-leak-advisory/
[2] https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/19/apple_ios_vpn/
[3] https://vpnoverview.com/news/apples-ios-16-1-allows-certain-...
Both are inferior to reddit.com/r/.../.compact, which they nixed a few months ago, on mobile.
put signs up, edit your Twitter bio lol.
If we could harness the power from all this outrage we could probably supply the world’s energy needs!
I think that as long as actual human beings continue to contribute content, AI would eventually "refine" that out and incorporate that into newer models. Even if say, 95% of the content in the dataset is AI generated, it will still capture the remainder.

Of course, I don't know if scaling AI with more data will work to improve it or not, and I'm sure that anyone really knows right now.
The paper doesn't say, but I would imagine it was very high. Googling the statistic says 1/3 of Americans have pre-diabetes.
You're right but unfortunately it rarely gets used this way. People who say mid end up saying it so often that it seems like everything they don't like is middling instead of bad or poor.
I don't actually see that as something I should care about. My interest in chatting online on a forum isn't that my convo is available to everyone for eternity.

I wouldn't even grant that access to old posts is a particularly useful part of a community. Even on HN it doesn't impact my day to day except to laugh at that dropbox rsync guy once a year.
Why not shut down the whole site then? They already have an archive of everything from before then. The question is what you do about future content? If it can no longer be trusted then it’s worthless as a dataset for training.
A recent conversation here [^0] reminded me of this. Thought it was a good read.

[^0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36256236
Yes. Enlightened capability lifecycles include 'disposal' at the end. There may be fairly obvious costs such as disposal of e-waste, but other activities such as thinking about how to reuse infrastructure, resources and people who are associated with the thing being disposed of.
leapfrogged by what though? one of the problems right now is that there is no real alternative, and the federated platforms are mostly memes / hangouts for power-users.
This is really going to be hardware- and OS-dependent. Most schedulers try to avoid changing CPU affinity for active processes, so you're likely looking at the delta for the worst-case scenario rather than the average case. But yes, affinity definitely helps!
>Never realized I was so predictable

"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world"

Our entire personality and sense of identity is nothing but the reflection of ourselves in relation to eachother. The summation of all cultural input. A man in a void is no more than a beast.
> But posting publicly moves into very different realms (also not illegal) outside of just recording discussions.

It really does not, even if it hurts spez's (and your) feelings.

> Ive been much more critical of reddit.

You literally pretend things they did didn't happen. You can say you've been critical, but you have pretty much shifted the blame entirely on Christian the whole time.
Apple had multiple money printers. Disney with parks in addition to movies. Netflix switched from dominating with envelopes to pioneering streaming. Intel famously switched from memory to CPUs.

I agree though that returning cash to shareholders should be more common when there are no good investment opportunities for the company. The book The Outsiders goes into several super successful CEOs who have the common thread of treating their business like an investment portfolio. I'd strongly suggest stock buybacks over dividends though because that gives control to the shareholders about when the taxable event occurs and will typically lead to lower taxes. It's somehow frowned upon by the general public, but it's very similar in what it does to dividends but more efficient at it.
Didn’t stop us from using fission for energy production. But weapons production might have played a relevant role here.
I don't think that the ability to fuck something implies that there's an ability to unfuck something. I don't think there's any necessity to think that there will be an continually increasing ability to distinguish faked from real in past data.

The analogy would be how we can't distinguish fantasy, parable, and propaganda in histories written in the past, even though we have a lot more technology than they had 2500 years ago. We rule out most things that seem fantastic, like dragons or people rising from the dead (maybe the equivalent of finding extreme statistical improbabilities), while also entertaining the possibility that the past could have been radically different than we see it now, and some of the things we ruled out may have been real. We make suppositions based on the political alignments of the historians, and whether they could have had access to the information that they claim to record. We use geological and anthropological records to check credibility, and use confirmations found as sources for priors when judging other, maybe unrelated, things that said by that same scholar.

We've seen what current AI does when confronted by a situation like that, it fills in the gaps with plausible fantasy and hallucinates.

edit: not that there isn't low hanging fruit in detecting AI creations, but that's just a sign of early AI. AIs can't even draw hands.
Search engines refer people to those old threads. Users who care enough and are tech savvy enough to delete their post histories are more likely to have made higher quality comments in the past answering tech support questions, reviewing products, etc. Those are the old threads that appear in search results and potentially draw in new users.
Maybe circa/before 2020, I'd have agreed, but something changed with Reddit in 2021. Before that the site was your average "moderately functional trainwreck" that you can call pretty much every social media site out there.

In 2020, for some reason Reddit went hard on just... loony shit. Things like pushing the redesign even though it was blatantly not ready for use, switching their mobile site for some completely dogshit PWA that doesn't even function properly 75% of the time. In terms of community, they started putting people older Reddit had pretty much exiled for being horrible on the emergency mod reserve list (which notably led to them putting a thrice accused rapist on the mod list for /r/rape, who only deleted their account after completely different drama linked them back to their old identity). They also hired a convicted pedophile as an admin, mentioned her by name and surname in the announcement of her joining and then tried to double down when people expressed discomfort when they found the conviction (and even banned people for pointing it out).

Similarly, things like April Fools went from "niche fun tech thing" to "next marketing campaign". Older Reddit had things like The Button - simple in premise, utterly byzantine, entire community was user-invented. Newer reddit just has completely given up on doing anything like that, the closest it came was trying to redo /r/place, and it failed completely (since e-celebs knew it was coming and began mobilizing their userbase to hijack it).

They also completely gave up on trying to moderate spam when COVID-19 began; it's now all up to the mods of individual subs to get rid of it. Reddits admins don't bother banning spam accounts anymore, so mods have resorted again to using shared banlists just to get around repost karmafarm bots.

The company is completely floundering when it comes to community management and it's hard to keep presuming it's not malice when it's this consistently bad. Buying 5 star reviews for their apps is genuinely not out of the managements ballpark.
>besides the fact that he's kept away from the public so he can't commit more crimes.

Even this part is a failure. Prisoners can and do commit crimes that victimize other prisoners, guards, and sometimes the outside public.
There is already a new version of the Occam IDE available, which you can download from the Occam website. It includes improvements around the grammars as well as a new Unicode picker.
Then don't put the disclosure at all, it's just weird to do the "distracting" part but not give the information.
That seems like a distinction that doesn't matter to this conversation. The point is that it's done through the oil company. Either way, you expect to fill up at a PG&E station in 10 years, not a Tesla one.
I've used the official Reddit app for a few years. I don't find it that bad. Can someone enlighten me as to why it is terrible?
Me too - particularly when the story proof was more concise than the algebraic proof, or hinted at the deeper reason as to why something must be true. I remember them better too.