skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
A point that has gotten lost in the discussion; The CEO is saying the "average" user would only cost $1 a month and therefore the pricing is fair. But users of apps like Apollo are not average, they are super users (and include a high percentage of mods). The Apollo app developer says he would have to pay $2.50 a month per user.

https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_ca...

If he was able to pass through $1 a month to users and given a reasonable time to do so, Apollo would likely still be alive. Or better yet, require a $10-12 a year subscription on each Reddit user account, paid directly to Reddit, to use 3rd party apps.
So it now uses the GPU after some help, but it is not that much faster on my Vega VII than on my 5950x 16 core cpu :/
Personal swipes will get you banned here, so would you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and make your substantive points without any of that?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
The main problem with finishing projects is that the fun 90% of the project takes 90% of the time spent on it, and the un-fun 10% required to actually polish and release it takes at least the other 90% of the time spent on it.

And then come the issues and PRs and people requesting your attention and time that they're entitled to because they found a project on GitHub that seems to fulfill 90% of their needs, and they only require you to implement or review the other 90%.

Keeping stuff unfinished is actually not a bad idea.
Product market fit.
Liability is the big one now, for sure. The closest you get is usually some quasi-private (but basically open to anyone with a dollar) pool.

Even the fully-owned city public pools often have an entrance fee (at least based on one near me).

In many parts of the country the swimming areas are provided by lakes and rivers.

Fun fact: most hotels that have a pool will let you use it for free or a small charge even if you're not staying there; ask at the desk.
I'm obviously not using "kid" in the legal sense. I cannot believe I'm having to write this. I'm referring to maturity and wisdom, experience.

If I want to call my 20 year old self a kid, I'm going to do so without any concern for your input.
> Take a break every 45 minutes.

Perhaps things are different at the top of the tower, but in my experience if your meetings are regularly longer than an hour I'd say you're doing it wrong, or you're holding a workshop and not a meeting.

Get the right people in the room, have a clear agenda and someone to lead the meeting if needed, and it's rare that more than an hour is needed. Often far less. At least in my world. My most productive meetings are around 15-20 minutes.

If you're holding a workshop then I agree, take breaks.
Thank-you. Your other submission offers some solutions:

The Rebellious Child Abnormal Personality - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36314641 - 1 hour ago
As others have mentioned in this thread, the Nicaraguan Sign Language shows it can happen in years, not even generations.
If all you use in AWS is static EC2 instances you would have to go back a looooong time to find an outage which affected their availability. Even in us-east-1.
And not just that- 10% of Dutch traffic deaths are by drowning.

I did notice when I lived there that people found swimming lessons very important, to the extent that cards to congratulate children on passing their swimming test are commonly sold.
“Once there were brook trout in the streams in the mountains. You could see them standing in the amber current where the white edges of their fins wimpled softly in the flow. They smelled of moss in your hand. Polished and muscular and torsional. On their backs were vermiculate patterns that were maps of the world in its becoming. Maps and mazes. Of a thing which could not be put back. Not be made right again. In the deep glens where they lived all things were older than man and they hummed of mystery.”

Cormac McCarthy's writing affected me on such a deep level as a young adult. I had never realized prose could have that affect on me. He will be missed.
Probably if you're using AWS, you do, but it would be much more convenient if they just used UTC by default with an option to localize.
> PE usually doesn't have any special connection to your sector or community.

I know you said usually, but it really does depend. Thoma Bravo would be an example of one that is tech sector focused. Not that I like TB, just saying that doesn't always apply.
> Apollo averages ~345 calls per-user per-day

The mobile front end does about 345 calls/user/day

The push notification server does 8640 calls/user/day (one call every 10 seconds).

In https://youtu.be/Ypwgu1BpaO0?t=1772 he describes how that works.

> I guess there's an analogy um the way Reddit notifications work just for your inbox like you got a message or something um they work in so far as if I the developer of the app want to um say make sure that you get that notification within 10 seconds I have to be checking Reddit every 10 seconds to go like is there anything new is there anything new? is there anything new? is there anything new? okay. There is okay I'll tell is there anything new and then just repeating that at nauseam so you can imagine if you get a message once a week I'm checking every 10 seconds and then once during that whole week I get that message and then I can send it to you um so 99.99 of those API calls were wasted so we've talked to Reddit like that my friend who works on my server um and myself and I've said like what would be so much better is if we could just kind of keep like a port open with Reddit and say like you just tell us when there's a notification ready and we'll beam it off we don't have to bug you all the time and it's logical right and that's how a lot of services do it it's like an event-based API and um that's just not something reddit's ever uh given us
>you note 3 things that LLMs are known for, but not all the things they are known for. Instead you conveniently leave out the positive benefits of these models that are causing people to promote them.

When talking about the pitfalls of bringing GPT-4 as a tool for government officials, the positive features are outside of the scope.

Obviously they exist, otherwise it wouldn't be proposed. But it's not our job to do a sales pitch for GPT-4.

>Further, the narrative you paint suggests that no one in government is competent in anything and can only follow directions.

No. The OP suggests that the primary users of the tool would be low-level, underpaid officials, who are mostly following directions.

Not because it's their fault as human beings - but because their positions require them to do so, and perhaps for good reasons.

In any case, direction-followers (of questionable competence and low pay grade) make up the bulk of large organizations in general as a consequence of growth. Which is why the tool is being pitched in the first place: to streamline work of people who would rather not do it in the first place.

>Finally, you combine the heavily biased perspectives you took and proposed that it would lead to a massive scandal in the government, b

As if the governments aren't prone to massive scandals even without GPT-4 in place. Try checking the news today, you may be surprised.

>not just any scandal, one that is actually a coordinated attack BY MICROSOFT to screw the government, their largest customer.

"By Microsoft" wasn't in OP's statement. Manipulating data and statistics to get the desired outcome from seemingly impartial algorithms is something our government has been engaging in for a very, very long time.

Redlining[1] and gerrymandering[2] are just two prime examples.

We don't have to make any assumptions or apply biased perspectives to say that we expect:

1)Training data to be manipulated by entities with interest in influencing the outcome;

2)Lives of countless people being adversely affected, and

3)There being a massive scandal as a result.

The government has a long track history of 1, 2, and 3 happening any time a system is introduced which lacks transparency, and large language models are the epitome of that.

The only unrealistic thing about OP's statement is that a scandal will actually happen, instead of people getting away with it.

>It's always interesting to see how people engage with new technologies on HN.

And it is even more interesting to see how people here engage with ethics.

[1]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/17/realestate/what-is-redlin...

[2]https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/gerr...
A bleak Byzantine future, of endless bureaucracy.

Government reports continue to balloon in size, because of technological advancements (especially copy/paste).

In the age of typewriters, anything not important, or duplicate, was cut. With word processors, document sizes unnecessarily grew.
Totally! I referenced that near the end:

> Sometimes finishing is just the beginning: You release the library, the package, the SaaS product, and your work is really just beginning. Users have issues, customers have feedback, and dependencies need upgrading. In some sense, there is no finished software; there is only released software.
The original claim was that some people are "not sensitive to status" and have no biochemical changes from it. It is an incredibly broad claim. I would readily agree that many people are happy on their own, go against the majority, do not care much for society, aloof from social opinion, etc.

But the claim that some people are literally immune to status strikes me as implausible. It would imply, for example, that people on the spectrum are literally unbothered by being mocked, insulted, berated, laughed at, rejected, abandoned and so on.

Is that truly what you're claiming?

I took this broad definition of status from Improv. This is the actual status one would be sensitive to or not on a biochemical level, because it addresses our feelings and actions as they exist, rather than what our title or formal status says.

"Keith Johnstone understands status as something one does, independent of the social status one has. Social status represents one's rank in a social order. At the upper end are secular and spiritual leaders (kings, priests), at the bottom end, dependents and outcasts. Social rank is approximately demonstrated through offices, titles, awards, and status symbols. Johnstone's "status", on the other hand, comes from the behavior of the characters in a specific encounter. He stresses that there is no neutral status; rather, some sort of difference is always present. A good actor is always conscious of the relative status of the portrayed characters and can playfully vary it."

https://improwiki.com/en/wiki/improv/status#:~:text=In%20imp....
A friend of mine is a Vet at a place recently sold to a PE firm. If your wait times are crazy long, if you can't get through on a phone, if you realize your vet's office has parted ways with the great vet you used to see -- that's the PE firm counting beans and destroying the service for customers in an effort to squeeze every dollar out of the system.

As a specific obviously bad example -- Vet services in California are kinda seasonal. More visits in summer than winter, due to more time outdoors, etc. A PE firm looked at visits on a weekly basis and saw a downward trend in the winter and decided to re-set staffing based on that. Now that summer has arrived they are severely short staffed, have parted ways with great vets, and now wait times are horrific.

Thanks PE!
The largest DRAM dies are 24 gigabit.
Agreed.

Had a family member receive an LOI at 10x EBITDA so they decided to sell (not sure where they closed).

They mentioned that if a doctor would have purchased the practice, it would be 1x or 2x at best.

Related: they would have been interested to scale up, but didn't know how and were afraid of the complexity of trying to manage a 3rd location.
I'm running stable diffusion on my 7900xtx and it's working fine. I had to screw around a little bit to get the newest ROCm and torch libraries since they aren't packed on my OS, but it wasn't that bad. I made a docker image if anybody is struggling to get it working: https://hub.docker.com/r/delusional/sd-rx7900xtx
It was the Quality Inn in Kill Devil Hills, Outer Banks, NC. Typical mediocre beach hotel in that area.
It's not always like this.

A PE bought a majority stake in the company I work for which for 40 years was a family owned company.

They said they were financial partners only, non-operational and they bought because they liked how we were.

It's been years since and things have only gotten better as far as I am concerned. I mean they were pretty great originally when the family owned it and I had no complaints, but the culture and engagement and such has only gotten better, and the company is growing faster and becoming even more profitable than ever before as well.
What's interesting is that I can still access my EKS cluster, but none of the deployments are "ready" that have LBs attached to them. Pods can create fine though!
If the business is (seemingly) on the path to death and current owners are done with it, but employees still want to stay, then the obvious best outcome for the business is to be handed over to the employees. The downside is that there's less money in that for the shareholders and the PE fund, but let's not try to change the narrative to "PE buyouts are best for the business" when they clearly aren't. They are a way to squeeze out as much capital as possible from a company before tossing its carcass, nothing more.
Copilot is designed for code, but it can still be used for whatever you want. I found it useful when writing latex files, even for the text explanation portions as opposed to the text markup 'code'. There was a y combinator thread on this earlier.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29920035
Consistently I see this advice from everyone who I consider has achieved outside success in their field.

Greg Brockman (OpenAI Cofounder) : Developer Speed is the most important thing I care about: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqiL5QQnN64). I believe he said more about this topic but I can't find it now.

Frank Slootman (Snowflake CEO): In his book Amp It Up, he stresses why pushing people to move fast is extremely important

Elon Musk (Let's not get into a debate about Elon and just agree that he has helped setup 2 100bn+ companies) : "I believe in maniacal sense of urgency, if you can implement something right after the meeting, do that", upon his work philosophy when taking over twitter.

In my personal experience one of the most impressive coders I met, worked extremely fast while also being very accurate, almost indicating that no tradeoff even exists.
An AWS outage means we can’t update the front page, but we’re still here
> 5 bytes? In what encoding?

I believe UTF-8 reserved up to six bytes for a single character.
Ask HN: How is it likely for Hacker News to block its public API in the future?
Following the "Reddit Vs. Apollo" saga, Reddit just joined the club of giants.. I mean locked-gates which includes: The Metas, YouTube and recently, Twitter.

Reddit's decision to end the free API access to its data marks the end of the 3rd-party frontends as we know them.

As far as I can tell, the only remaining player in the city is "Hacker News", with its free Firebase API [0].

With their statement as "we're making the public Hacker News data available in near real time", I am wondering for how long this will remain true? What do you think?

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0. https://github.com/HackerNews/API
It's not mandatory but as far as I know it's pretty much a given that you send your kids to swimming lessons. People that can't pay for swimming lessons for their kids can request government help to pay. Generally when kids are about five years old they'll start with "Zwemdiploma A" ("swimming diploma A"), which you often need to even be allowed to enter the deeper pools.

When you don't send your kids to swimming lessons you potentially deprive them of fun days away with their classmates because they need that swimming diploma to be allowed to come.
Yeah, I'm using the definition of status from improv, which I think actually captures how people act and feel. The discussion started based on what people feel biochemically and that's based on our daily actions and actual status, rather than our formal social rank.

I would be surprised to learn anyone is truly immune from status in this sense.

"Keith Johnstone understands status as something one does, independent of the social status one has. Social status represents one's rank in a social order. At the upper end are secular and spiritual leaders (kings, priests), at the bottom end, dependents and outcasts. Social rank is approximately demonstrated through offices, titles, awards, and status symbols. Johnstone's "status", on the other hand, comes from the behavior of the characters in a specific encounter. He stresses that there is no neutral status; rather, some sort of difference is always present. A good actor is always conscious of the relative status of the portrayed characters and can playfully vary it."

https://improwiki.com/en/wiki/improv/status#:~:text=In%20imp....
This is awesome, and I'd add that in doing safe streets advocacy in SF I have learned that to make changes like these it's helpful to record the entire signal timing for all phases to make more concrete recommendations for changing timing. In other words you'll have to take time from other signal phases to increase ped timing and without that data it's hard to advocate for change. Here is one example of a full phase visualization:
https://glitch.com/edit/#!/aframe-ped-signals?path=README.md...
Eyeballing it with Google areal view (I appreciate what it looks like today may not be what it looked like at the time), I think you'd have to demolish several entire streets of houses and/or some bridges to do that.

And these are London streets, not American ones, so it might still not fit: https://maps.app.goo.gl/eerQMHDv2gXLdu5D7?g_st=ic
Everyone knows "Mountain Time". It is when you go to the mountains on vacation, and don't spend much time adhering to a strict schedule, instead taking leisurely strolls around the fields and promising vague things like "I'll try to be back for dinner".
Who has standing to object? How about the people that get ripped off.

It’s looting. They’re asset stripping.

They are literally doing this:

https://youtu.be/ZPtjyqgZAUk

It’s not a metaphor what is happening is actually the same as a common organized crime scheme. They are stealing from creditors.
Ok thanks :-)
All the regions are equal, but some regions are more equal than others.
I remember, some time ago, someone (more than one, to be precise) used NN (neuralnets) to resolve some math problems (differential equations, IIRC, i have lost the refs).
Suddently some others stated the death of Mathematics, and in general, of Science as we all know, just pour all data in a NN and solution will appear, no more theory, models, hypothesis, experiments,.. needed.
Nothing of this happened, but from time to time this -hallucination- return, missing the difference between Science and Technology, between a machine that work (or appear to work) and a model/theory that explain how/why.
Not during the Canadian fires
In this case it's because memory scaling has slowed down, so the manufacturers have introduced sizes that are halfway between powers of two. It would simply take too long to wait for 2x before making a new product line.

So the biggest HBM you can get is 24GB, and 8 of them is a reasonable max.
Yeah perhaps that’s causing confusion for science enthusiasts new to this debate - Chomsky is definitely not talking about what a lay person would call “Grammar”. Your point is one of his main (implicit) supports though: on the face of it, it seems absolutely insane that a child could pick up complex linguistic concepts in a few short years, with many orders of magnitude less data than a LLM needs to reach the same capabilities
My position is that for university students, you should start with FP. You have them for 4 years anyway, they'll have plenty of time to learn imperative programming. But FP both distills essential CS concepts, putting them front-and-center, and it puts your freshman on a more even playing field between those with existing programming experience and those who don't.
> I mean, I suppose there are plenty of Russians in America living a totally normal life.

Yep, and vice-versa.
Cormac McCarthy has died
unpaywall archive link : https://archive.is/xVcEF
Excuse me, but I didn’t say anything like “large swaths of the country are just itching to break out the noose.” You’re being hyperbolic and oversensitive.

When I’m talking about “some corners of our country”, I’m talking about corners that I’ve personally seen myself. It’s not subtle when, e.g., the pool attendant lets me in the municipal pool without a second glance but stop the black mother behind me and pointedly demand she prove her residence.
> Even that is a sufficient level of understanding to correctly determine that a motorcycle is not an airplane.

But are we talking about airplanes, or are we talking about "flying"? Airplanes fly, motorcycles don't. Do hot air balloons fly? Or is floating not flying?

Neuroscience tells us about human and similar consciousness. Maybe Ll biological consciousness, but maybe not even that. Are we sure we're not exploring a subset of consciousness though, and other variations exist that were unaware of and will catch us off guard because we haven't encountered them (or recognized when we have)?

I think that's the important question here, and it goes beyond LLMs, because whether they can or can not achieve consciousness doesn't mean something else will follow the same path.
> the current wave of dating apps aren't optimized for long-term relationships

That sentence...

Nothing personal, you're obviously right. It's the sheer technicality of it. I wish young people would find love as they used to, at balls or smth..
Degraded Health in AWS us-east-1
PE acquired us and was a great partner. Allowed us to do larger M&A deals than we otherwise could have. Supportive but mostly stayed out of the way. Never suggested any cuts or anything that would impact culture. Ultimately led to us being acquired by a strategic a few years later in what I think was a good outcome for everyone.

These are all just anecdotes. My experience doesn't override yours, but I'd be careful drawing broad conclusions.

I think sometimes PE gets a bad rap because they can be a "buyer of last resort" for companies that are already struggling.
> I left Reddit back when they decided they don’t care about free speech and banned nonewnormal.

What happened to this new normal btw? Everything has reverted to pre-pandemic life here as it seems. Wasn't the expectation that we're going to have to live suppressed for all time?
Just cross back from the crossing. It’s legal (?not illegal) to jaywalk in NSW if you are more than 20m from the nearest designated crossing, if you are not interfering with traffic (section 234). I’ve never met anyone who has received a fine for crossing at the wrong time?
Anyone know about compatibility with existing notebooks? Presumably stellar, right?

For now, I need jupytext (which is a great extension), so then I stay with v3.6 until jupytext is resolved.

For this announcement - or in the changelog - it would be great to know why it is a major version bump - what is the major compatibility change?
i see. i didn't realize it was a 30 day notice which is pretty short.
Enjoying the moment. The excitement of new experiences. Saying what you want without filters. And literally covering your ears, if there is too much noise, opposed to smiling and accepting all unpleasant things.
This assumes that money is distributed evenly though. Nothing stops restaurants from lowering server pay, increasing prices, and just taking profits to themselves.

I'd prefer no tips, an increase in price, and no hidden bs fees/tips

Edit: evenly meaning an increase in prices proportionally increases employee pay