skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
The same story it always is.

Reddit, like so many other places, believes it has a right to extract the value the community creates.

But it doesn't. It didn't create the value, the community did. It convinces itself it has a right to profit here, but it really created almost none of the value.

It is then surprised when it can't just sit and extract value from the community without pushback.

This kind of value extraction only works (If at all), when the value being provided by the company is somewhere near that being provided by the community.

Then people are a little more willing to feel like you deserve something.

In reddit's case, it's very uneven. Despite providing the website and bandwidth, Reddit feels to most of its community like a large scale freeloader, as funny as that may sound.

That sort of relationship eventually goes south, though it takes a while sometimes.

All of these places eventually discover that they are not the thing driving real value.

Those that are smart realize this early on, try to make as much as they can while they can, and diversify before it all goes to shit.

Reddit is not one of those.
I’m other words “I want to impose a certain political morality in the office and I don’t see why this man can’t simply just go along with it”

You don’t seem to get it. Being told to do this is itself a political statement - one they openly admit to.
Ask HN: Most productive rapid web app dev stack in JavaScript/Python
Hello,

I'm looking for a good dev stack to write web based apps with decent looking UI rapidly - sort of the promise of what bootstrap was. I'd like to limit the languages to JS/Python (let's pretend backend is API, so nevermind [No]SQL).

Currently overwhelmed by choices.
The various alternative reddits that have popped up in the past prove the tech stack isn't complex. Their lack of user adoption shows that the secret sauce is the userbase, not the tech.
I hope you're getting downloaded only for your editorialization in the last paragraph and not the logic that precedes it...
>That would be a disaster for them. It would be "Mods are asleep, post X" taken to extreme.

They wouldn't be forced open with zero mods, obviously. They'll find volunteers.

I would expect that if mass demoddings happen though you would see some sort of weird civil war on Reddit emerge though where outraged users would support spamming these subs in the way you describe specifically to ensure that their prophecy is fulfilled. You can even see people hoping for it in this thread already.
The M2 Ultra comes on a $7000 workstation; it's not exactly consumer-level hardware. What you're saying is absolutely true - they could just double it up (like they do from the normal to the Pro, and from the Pro to the Ultra). And I hope they do, for an M3 Ultra. It'd be great if they pushed it even harder and showed Intel/AMD that they can beat them at both the low end and the high end, with plenty of power consumption to spare.

As you said though, it's a very niche thing, so even without beating Intel at the top end they're not going to be losing much. It's just a bit of a shame. The i9-13900K is only $500, it's not like it's some wildly out-of-reach thing.
Flying cars already exist, they are called helicopters.

What you really want is the TCO of a car in a helicopter.
Q: How do you address the concerns of users who feel that Reddit has become
increasingly profit-driven and less focused on community engagement?

Spez: We’ll continue to be profit-driven until profits arrive.
Unlike some of the 3P apps, we are not profitable.
Self driving fleets will be driving around to avoid parking while staying in the high use areas, and contributing a lot to traffic, perhaps more than if everyone just had their own car.
While the recent A4A seems like an obvious tactical mistake, I've yet to see anyone make a strong argument that the API changes are bad for the site's bottom line. And if no one can do this, then why would spez get fired? I guess maybe just for optics?
Not here, and the majority of ISPs have no real interest in IPv6 unfortunately.
I wouldn't use Elm anymore even if there were alternatives to kernel code for everything I wanted to do. I don't want anything to do wit a language that imposes pseudo-DRM on me.
I, for one, really hope that on June 30 Apollo goes dark and so does my use of Reddit.

It would be an ethical thing to do on my part. At least Covid-19 days taught me to stick to ethical decisions.
Are they joking or is it really so common to spend nights at the office that convenience stores actually sell underwear?!
The app isn't the secret sauce. The moderation team is. Moderation is the hard part of running a site like reddit, otherwise it will turn into a big steaming pile of porn, botspam, crypto poop and probably a whole bunch of other illegal stuff.
Did you read TA? It summarizes existing known info, but it also includes new, original research.
Just off the cuff saying things like this makes it seem you are the one that doesn’t understand consequences. The American economy is unfortunately driven by car ownership. So unless you also have a way to change almost every facet of American life in the next 20 years, you’re just blowing smoke.

That being said, I would love it if car reliance was drastically reduced. But it’s not going to happen.
Spez... then Yishan Wong... then Ellen Pao... Then Spez.

Not sure if I recall Wong or Pao did things that seemed overtly business / investor motivated? I know there was the controversial firing of Victoria Taylor by Pao that eventually led to her demise.
Someone here in HN suggested that what Reddit should have done is to make API acccess a benefit of a Reddit premium account. That way Reddit would directly collect money from app users and would not have to rely on app developers to do it, and app developers would not have to shoulder risk in the same way. It seems so clear to me that that would have been a better approach.
> Some of us prefer it over the suburbs. You don’t have to. No one is forcing you.

A lot of people say suburbs are bad and that we need to get rid of them.
The valuable users are the mods that rely on third party apps lol.

I don’t think yall realize how much free labor the mods are doing.
Over time, though, this approach leads to massive model/manager files with dozens of groupable methods. Sometimes a service is a useful abstraction as a way to encourage placing related functionality in a dedicated file. The one-minute learning curve for telling new team members what that services directory does, may save hours that would have otherwise been necessary to grok a thousand-line model file.
HTC is one of the current market leaders and the vive pro 2 is by far the highest resolution device available among the big companies.
You can most definitely post/vote on other instances.
Unfortunate for.. Reddit? They’re immediately instituting pricing that will kill off the 3rd party apps. How does that help profits exactly? They could have given more notice, they could have started at a lower price point, they could have not lied and accused Apollo dev of extortion.

This is their own fault and they’re refusing any self reflection as a company.
> I don’t see why requiring more specific experimental evidence is more scientific.

Even if you don’t understand why there’s plenty of examples showing this is how “theoretical sciences” operate.

Prior to discovering the Higgs Boson the underlying verbiage was all some variation on “we don’t know, but…” Only after the experiment is that default changed.

The Higgs is a great example because there were several competing theories suggesting various energies for the particle most of which failed when actual data showed up. Which you always get for such open questions, thus the lack of consensus and the default “we don’t know.”
My guess is that they see themselves as potentially one of the companies which might not be able to attract sufficient investor money now that capital isn't essentially free.
I rarely see performance problems that are show stoppers, especially in the cloud, where you can always just buy a bigger node. Usually if something is going to be rewritten C++/Rust/$performant_lang it's that high velocity iteration on the codebase has mostly stopped and we could save 50-60% in infrastructure costs by running it on nodes with less resources. Then naturally you start to factor in the engineering manhours for the rewrite vs the potential savings.
They’re sick of running Reddit and want a pay out. Then then bounce.
Dude, I'm pretty familiar with sox/play. I first used it 30 years ago.

99% of the time you really did just use it to play a file, but sure, it was nice to trim and equalize and concatenate things occasionally.
I’ve worked in tech long enough to tell you that leadership being completely inept isn’t as far-fetched as you think.
The main reason to have a personal vehicle now is that there's an ongoing pandemic and there are no mitigations. If people would do something about that, it would make more sense to reinvest in higher density environmentally friendly transit options.
Major subreddits I’ve seen run polls show that less than 3% of users are using third party apps.
The first one is for Software Engineer, and the second one is for Senior Software Engineer. The difference is in level.
What lie? He didn’t say that. He didn’t imply that.
Discord should put out a quick Reddit clone. I imagine they already share a lot of the same users. How much would it take? Make the forum feature more like a subreddit for the server, improve discoverability of discord servers, make a “front page” that aggregates threads from popular servers...
What Tesla has deployed and continues to develop is absolutely an L2 DAS in its current incarnation.

One day, if they are successful, you will see them rollout L3 operation. I would expect this to happen on highways first, and then off-highway. It would be a truly crowning achievement of software engineering and AI, a moonshot realized. I hope they get there.

I think their approach is sound and has proven merit. In the worst case they will have an L2 system that makes commutes more relaxing, and saves lives both inside and outside the vehicle.

But they are uniquely positioned with the massive amount of operational data they collect to solve this problem in a generic / worldwide fashion, and their iterative approach has put them years ahead of the competition.

Their solution is truly scalable, in that it doesn’t require geofencing nor extensive and constant local mapping of the world state in order for the vehicle to safely navigate through it.

Now, Elon openly and readily admits that the same optimism that leads him to try to tackle these moonshots in the first place is what also leads him to over-estimate how quickly they will surmount the challenges they face.

But, he has an extraordinary amount of capital, and an equal level of determination to reach his goals, and frankly no one else on the planet has a better track record for problem solving at this level.
The alternative would be unworkable. Turning a subreddit public without mods just creates a new 4chan. Reddit it’s highly dependent on the free labor provided by the mods.
Sure, but since these changes aren't affecting many users I'm not sure why this would happen. It seems to mostly be wishful thinking on the hopes of activists that this will cause some sort of massive brand damage, or even the sort of advertiser revolt that Twitter has faced. But that would require a lot more mismanagement from spez, I'd guess.
We’re experimenting with this, and the answer is yes and no.

GPT4 is the only model that can just about run the agent execution, mainly due to context length and quality.

We use our own model for the embedding based code retrieval, and will be replacing some of the GPT3.5 calls with fine tuned models over the coming months.
I think it was from the client.
perhaps you had difficulty understanding the question -- how is what the computer is doing, different from what a human does?
> "So, we have a 24TB coming out soon, next few months, you will see it," said Romano. "That is the last PMR product. So I would say [higher] capacity point above 24TB PMR, that is probably 28TB SMR."

Sounds like the only uncertainty is in what the next capacity past 24TB will be, but it'll definitely be SMR rather than PMR.
> The Reddit CEO's negative karma (-111,199 at this time) during the recent Ask Me Anything (AMA) session indicates an overwhelmingly negative response from the community.

The really impressive thing is... if you follow a user profile link to a comment and vote, the vote doesn't count.

And it was really hard to see spez's comments without following them from his profile, because they were so downvoted.

So I don't even know how you get down to -1000 on comments.
I am not convinced that community revolts have staying power. Reddit the community has fought management a few times and besides trading Pao for Huffman, which was not really a win for them in that case, when has anything ever changed?

So, does the heat matter?
When all evidence points to the contrary, yes you can assume that the leadership is inept.

Benefit of the doubt only stretches so far.
This isn’t a weird thing if you live in a place with lots of taxis. Beijing, for example, 25% of the cars are taxis, and if it isn’t really busy, you’ll be able to get one just by raising your hand on a minorly busy street.

Taxis are too expensive in most of the developed world to be that ubiquitous. But they aren’t uncommon in countries where labor is cheaper, which makes me wonder if robo-taxis in the developed world will be as common as human taxis in the developing world.
> Think about owning horses back in the day, which you could simply breed to get more of. You could travel freely pretty much anywhere, no roads required.

Ok A) I don’t know much about the past but I’m pretty sure trying to travel unmapped backcountry terrain was super dangerous and hard and slow, horse or no, unless you were in the Great Plains or smtn.

B) saying that all it takes to get horses is “simply breed some” is like saying all you need to get a car is “simply build one”. Do you think the untold millions who died (and continue to die) of starvation in subsistence-farming based society were just dumb? It’s hard, dangerous, luck-driven work, assuming you don’t get killed by animals or other humans.

> We are quickly losing the skills required to adapt to a "lower" level of technology, meaning any quick disruption in the system could be catastrophical.

Disregarding the fact that modern population densities in most of the western world would make subsistence farming impossible, why is self-sufficiency an unquestioned virtue, so much so it gets to be up there with heavyweights like Autonomy and Freedom?

To illustrate my concerns more explicitly: If I invented a machine that could make any material or object appear instantly, would you destroy it, under the logic that it’s better to remember how to struggle? Or more near term, are you strongly against the prospect of interstellar travel?
No, you are completely right, and I think that's the direction the original question/comment leads to: there is already a known preference (in the browser settings, OS settings, account history) to have a better prediction of what the user wants - and the possibility of adding settings to override/change that if needed!

Instead, every site/service/app is just trying to guess, and often enough guesses wrongly.
Does Spez thinks this makes them look good?

And then you "blame" the 3rd party apps?

Sounds like a basic failure of housekeeping. But, but let's blame "remote work" or something like that, yeah
German Finance Minister rules out extra funds for Intel chip plant
https://archive.is/MOIjK
The question that is unknown is what percent of reddit's userbase uses exclusively third party clients vs those who use reddit's official client. And then, what portion of the third party userbase will migrate to the official client after those third party clients go away.

I'm sure spez knows at least the first set of numbers, and they find the amount of expected loss to be an acceptable risk.
Bugs Around the World
I found this very cool map by Sentry – I guess there are many bugs in the world :)

Seeing this made want to do the same map for Infisical – to see how different API-keys are accessed across the world. Will post in the comments when it's done.
I felt it was a fair reaction to suggesting that we undo years of work in transitioning to https
I don't read that as the implication at all. He's saying that Reddit needs to make changes to become profitable, while making a jab at the fact that some of the 3P apps have a financial interest in preserving the status quo.
The last comment on that issue says the slur filter was made optional.
partly optics, but mainly loss of confidence, not just by the users, but Reddit's employees.

It may be an OK business decision (though I personally think they didn't think it through), but he handled the aftermath in an extraordinarily bad way.

Either he doesn't have good lieutenants around him to advise and support him, or he is too stubborn to listen to them.
For a long time, Apple kept the option to receive plain text emails when almost everyone else had moved to HTML.

Why? Because there was a crucial slice of unix-y developers who liked it that way, who were an important segment.

Even though third party apps might be 3% of users, I'm guessing that the users that are passionate enough about Reddit to find/seek out the best app/pay for app subscriptions/etc are much more likely to be those critical 2% of prolific contributors.
I'm quite surprised that he's still the Reddit CEO after he admittedly edited comments on production database.

Sometimes I feel the current situation is exactly what we (reddit users) deserve. Like, we chose to continue using this website even when we knew the leadership is piece of shit. What else did we expect?
Maybe, but then these have to be a lot cheaper for a triple redundant setup to be cost effective.
the odds are way worse than that. think how many emails his producer gets from people wanting to be on his show
The question that should come up in a pitch like that is "if Reddit couldn't make money doing that, why would we?"

If hubris is the only differentiator then it's not a good reason. So, why would Discord take on such a large undertaking?
As I understand since this is phonetically transliterated to a different language (Old Persian) and then converted to cuneiform, it would not be possible to convert e.g. backup security codes with this. It seems from a brief read that it'd a lot more similar to Japanese's Kanji, so unless you just did one of those fake "alphabets" that can be easily googled, you'd be out of luck from a real translation and back.
Sure, there are people with extreme views on any issue.

The existence of those people doesn’t have any bearing on whether or not we should have congestion pricing in one of the densest urban environments in the world.
> A single frame that's 5x too long or 4 frames that are 2x too long have the same impact on the average delta of frame staleness on the total sum.

It's not clear to me: are you saying those two scenarios should be quantified as equally bad? Because it seems pretty obvious to me that the 5x outlier is qualitatively much worse.
Helicopters are outside of reach of an everyday person. You can't drive them when you feel like it nor start your journey on your suburban driveway.
They were pointing out that you jumped from the CEO compensation in general they mentioned, to just pointing at one person, which does not reflect the state of CEO remuneration (and the wealthy in general, which they also referenced), at all.
> welcome advance on the older techniques such as gettext.

I disagree. I think it depends on the use-cases.
I blogged about that recently: https://slint-ui.com/blog/translation-infrastructure

In short, I much prefer having the original (English) in the source code as it makes it easier to maintain and removes level of indirection. Using message identifiers adds boilerplate.
Can confirm. The people at the top in tech are a) primarily driven by personal advancement, b) focus all their attention on getting a promotion (or higher share price), c) if user welfare and personal ambition are in conflict personal ambition comes first.

It’s just normal humanity stupidity and greed, and these aren’t like head of the class intellects, it’s just boring people who love money and status and get no satisfaction from helping others.
Generally the revolts have achieved their ends. Mod revolts have lead to the banning of many subs in the past. The most recent one that comes to mind is the ban on COVID skepticism subs. I can't think of a result that has wholly flopped, really. But I'd say that this one is more likely to fail since it represents a direct attack on a monetization strategy.
I want to do this but I'm scared of the backlash of "you're being exploitative!!!!".

I know the people who say that mean well, but it totally overlooks both how much the culture does (as you say) want to provide their art for projects to use it and create value together, and... reality. Shouting at everyone isn't the way to get them onboard, but shout they do, and it's one country in particular that seems to scream the most.

I'm in the UK and I can't walk down the street without tripping over producers, so maybe the way around the angsty people is finding them in person? Or... we just use AI. The robots solving our social issues is probably a thing.
I mean, yes, if I sincerely believed in his project maybe I’d think that way.
Things are slowly changing now but pulling an all-nighter in the office is fairly common and used to be a mark (scar?) of achievement and loyalty to the company.
We Don't Trade with Ants ...and why hypothetical AI:s won't, either.
Life is a force of nature. Evolution is a force of nature. The development of society (across species, not just human) is a force of nature. The development of technology is an aspect of that. In other words, macro-economic trends such as the development of automation ARE in fact an aspect of evolution, aka, a force of nature.

Doesn't matter if that's not the sense in which the phrase is used, these things are arising out of the collective unconscious, not as the result of mere individual will.
Would be nice if we can as a country move away from car centric transportation. Tolls do nothing but put a tax on the poor. Rich (or well off) people will continue to pay the toll and their lifestyle won’t change.

Now slowly remove highways, reduce street ROWs, invest in bike lanes, bus infra, train infra, shaded areas, and make living in the city more attractive while penalizing suburban people with extremely long commutes.

Over time habits will change. Hopefully a migration back into the city and getting rid of costly suburbs
That would be a valid idea if Reddit wanted to keep 3rd party apps alive.
Singapore MRT actually operates with zero drivers!
Lol. People will definetly leave. Once I cannot use my fav 3rd party app I'm done. That's the end of reddit for me. We'll see if after the purge reddit will still have enough critical mass to keep going but acting like this before an ipo is nuts.
what a stupid endeavor.
I believe it's not often talked about how important intuition is, for everything in life, and this does include productivity. But I think for intuition to flourish you need a special type of freedom of thought and low stress, which might clash with certain work hierarchies and mindsets.

To satisfy my curiosity, have you taken mushrooms again to see if you can get that back? And have you tried microdosing?
You’re consuming for free. Why are you complaining?

Just pay for premium if you don’t like ads.

I agree with you that the ads are frequent and low quality. I’m now paying for premium and it’s worth it.
Isn’t that an indication they should buy the 3rd party apps?

Also pretty damning they can’t make a profit where others can off their data lol
That's the quote that is disputed.