skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
If Reddit is that unimportant, it should be easy to take those communities and move them elsewhere, but that isn’t happening. The reality is that without Reddit a large part of those communities wouldn’t exist, and they only exist because of Reddit.

For the long term survival of Reddit it is essential they become profitable, otherwise they’ll go bankrupt. And seeing that these communities depend on the existence of Reddit it’s also in the interest of these communities that Reddit turns a profit.

They seem to have serious revenue, about 500M in 2021 (https://businessmodelanalyst.com/reddit-business-model/), you’d think they could make a profit based on that. They had 2000 employees in June 2023 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reddit), assuming average of 100K cost per employee, that already adds up to 200M.

That may seem excessive for running some community website, but they get 400M+ from ads. Just running an organization to handle a 400M+ business for ads will require lots of people, infra, marketing, etc.

I can see the reasoning behind the thought that if you’ve created all this to enable these communities, someone doing less than 1% of the work, by simply putting an app on top of your APIs and infra and starting to make a profit seems unfair.

What i don’t understand is why they can’t outcompete these apps by providing a better app.
"nothing was gained"

I see the irony (gain of function)
And how would you know what, exactly? Have you actually taken the time to read any of the man's writing? Because I've been picking my way through his manifesto off and on this evening and so far what I'm encountering is calm, lucid, internally consistent, and a fairly accurate critique. Something about this exchange is reminding me of all of the decades of inarticulate hyperventilating about "communism" by individuals who hadn't bothered to so much as read the manifesto, much less examine Marx's writings.
>Everyone has seen the consequences of pilot lights going out while owners are on vacation. House fills with natural gas, fridge compressor kicks on, ignites gas, house explodes. A house filled with hydrogen would not only destroy the house containing it, but the houses next to it as well, and it would be much more likely to ignite due to its much lower ignition energy.

So Its molecule is so tiny it's hard to contain even in specially constructed containers, but in a house leak it'll hang around and build up enough in a house to level a suburb block?

You can't have it both ways.
While true, the idea in this case would be to deliberately keep things small.
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You’ll get false positives and negatives with any email gateway - even ML or “AI” backed ones. The offerings from both Google and Microsoft, while adequate, are someways off the efficacy of other solutions.
Related:

The curious death of Oppenheimer’s mistress (2015) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27757473 - July 2021 (24 comments)
The (relatively small) percentage of people that generate the bulk of the content on Reddit do rely on third party apps (and therefore indirectly on the API). A lot of the mods crucial to the site also rely heavily on the API or tools which are built on the API. Reddit has shown no signs of improving the mod tools, and without the ability to moderate NSFW content using the new API, Reddit will get objectively worse. It doesn’t matter if leadership remods subreddits and forces them open; mods and content creators now objectively have a worse experience and will produce worse content/decisions.
Of course it could be a scientific to estimate the probability that ...
How undebated findings undermine scientific institutions
Surveillance tech is usually a derivative of other technological advancements which would still result in a net benefit.

The middle ground between infinite optimism and doomerism seems to be regulation which more often than not results in very subpar conditions. I feel there's really no other position to hold.
Ye, this "it is non of your business as a pleb consumer to complain about companies, use another one" trope is getting old. If Reddit's lusers don't like Reddit they should complain, threaten to leave, then leave.

It is like this "Karen"-meme where the protagonist and antagonist are mixed up. The nominal protagonist blames Karen for the employer's fault. If you make money as being a firewall between the Karen and your boss, you are the problem, not Karen.
yeah, but - guess what? - nobody is even talking about it, just inventing new ways to punish the car owners offering no improved options.
Most times I found out that one of my articles was on the HN frontpage was because I got a spike in traffic and news.ycombinator.com was the most common referrer; now it's "spike in traffic, maybe it's HN?" which isn't really an improvement. This applies even more to other authors who won't think "maybe it's HN?" and will never show up here as a result, which would be a loss IMO.

The Asahi people still won't be able to "soft block" HN, so nothing changes for them. It's punishing everyone because some people threw a hissy fit.

Lobsters has a "compromise approach", where it sends referrers for the first hour after posting and then stops sending them [1] (not sure if it really helps to "disincentivize content marketers" as the comment says; they generally don't seem to care as long as they can spam out their links), but that may be a more complex change to make. This is how I discovered that Lobsters exists a few years ago: somone people posted my article and I "found" it in the refers, so I asked for an invite and replied to some comments.

[1]: https://github.com/lobsters/lobsters/blob/2981689c26a1bd2461...
Shameless plug - https://github.com/kesor/chatgpt-code-plugin - also does a very good job of telling you anything you'd like about your code. Shared it on ShowHN as well here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36099507
You'll get no argument from me on any point here. Arguably the greatest single travesty in recorded human history.
An ISP can run a Usenet node and many did, but that's in no way necessary or inherent to Usenet. It is entirely peer to peer distributed. You can run your own with multiple unrelated peers for redundancy. I used to do that for most of the early 90s, it works great. There is no central repository anywhere.

An analogy is to say email is centralized because may people use gmail. Yes many people do but that's in no way necessary. Everyone can run their own if they like. For the entire decade of the 90s through several employers, I never was part of an organization which even had a central email server! Everyone sent and received email directly to/from their personal workstation.
I see what you meant now. Fair enough.

The other part of my prediction is that some of the (real, non-bot) engagement that the giant generic subreddits get are from users that are anchored to Reddit by more specialized subreddits, like those for specific games, hobbies, that sort of thing. If those special interest subreddits die out, I think the large generic subreddits will become more hollowed out than they are already, and not worth much.
From the article,

> You infect the mice, wait a week or so, and then recover the virus from the sickest mice. Then you repeat.

From The Hardware Hacker (2017) by "bunnie" Huang:

> So, a single base-pair change--simply flipping two bits--might be all you'd need to turn the H1N1 swine flu virus into a deadlier variant... for just over $1,000.

> [Influenza] packs a deadly punch in 3.2 KB... and we [still] haven't eradicated it. Could influenza do hacks like the one I just described on its own already? The short answer is yes.

> ... on average, every copy of an influenza virus has one random mutation.

> [H1N1] was probably just a couple of mutations away from being a bigger health problem.

> ... novel H1N1 acquired a mix of RNA snippets that gave it high transmission rates and made it something humans weren't innately immune to. That's the perfect storm for a pandemic.

> If there were a computer analogy to this RNA-shuffling model, [random relinking of virus "files" at runtime]... would also proliferate a diverse set of viruses in the wild...

Fortunately for swine flu at least,

> ... a patient [had] a novel antibody... to confer immunity to all 16 subtypes of influenza A.

Against Covid, research by Dr. Weismann and Dr. Karikó led to the development of the mRNA vaccine:

https://www.bu.edu/articles/2021/how-drew-weissman-and-katal...
The biggest problem is almost always not the hosting costs but the content moderation.

Not many people like removing CP when growing past a certain size.
Sounds ominous but also completely devoid of useful explanations, blame, or actionable knowledge.
As long as Tesla keeps the real data secret it's reasonable for us to speculate. And it's reasonable to infer there's a reason they won't disclose it.

> It is unclear which of the systems was in use in the fatal crashes: Tesla has asked NHTSA not to disclose that information. In the section of the NHTSA data specifying the software version, Tesla’s incidents read — in all capital letters — “redacted, may contain confidential business information.”
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> Witnesses are said to have told the US investigation that Zhou fell from the roof of the Wuhan institute, although this has not been verified.

This guy who published a suspiciously early patent on a covid 19 vaccine fell off a roof three months later?

That’s kind of buried in the article a bit but was this claim been made anywhere else?

Also, the section on activity at the lab at the time of the outbreak does not mention analysis of private app data.

IIRC, one of the early discredited reports suggesting lab origin had relied, in-part, on commercially available app data. The kind of adware built into “free” apps that violate user privacy.

This data supposedly showed clear activity supporting a temporary shutdown of the Wuhan lab.

This information always seemed the easiest to latch on to. Not to prove origin but at least offer an important fact for a pattern.

US military bases have had their locations and perimeters out on the public web thanks to fitness apps.

Was the WIV associated app data not real? If it was, why isn’t it included in this article?

The article relates a study “by academics at Wuhan University located the hotspots in Wuhan where people were reporting on social media that they needed treatment for Covid.”

How would this be more compelling than raw app data showing movement of employees or security workers in and around WIV?
Thank you so much! Even for a fairly obsessive Japanese culture otaku, there was so much to learn in this article. Please keep them coming.
That’s what their staff called it - https://reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/144ho2x/join_our_ceo_to...

“ Reddit CEO, u/spez, will be here tomorrow to host an AMA about the latest API updates, including accessibility, mod bots, and third-party mod tools. “
Rejection out of hand is bankrupt regardless of what motivation one cares to use as a hood ornament. If one can't be assed to even examine the claims in question, one certainly isn't qualified to field a critique thereof. At minimum, one should know one's enemy.
There would have been a huge uproar if they did that too. Most Apollo users don't pay. I'd be surprised if they would get even a 2% conversion rate. The other 98% of users would be angry about losing access. Reddit would still be accused of effectively killing off 3rd party apps.

The economics are basically the same. Apollo could charge their users $0.25 per thousand requests and continue to operate. They don't want to do so.

It is a burden for the app developers to implement payment processing. And one month was not enough notice. But fundamentally, this is killing apps because most users won't be willing to pay.

(Also, 1000 API requests isn't that little. For example, getting the top 25 posts of a subreddit is just 1 API request. Posting a comment is 1 request.)

Unpaid users are important to these apps because it's what drives adoption. You can release a new paid app to browse Reddit and get maybe 1000 users, or release a free app and get 1 million users, of which 1% convert to paying customers (i.e. 10,000 customers. These numbers are just made up for illustrative purposes).
Why are you asking me? I am not Woodmac. Furthermore, their projections only go to 2027.

I’m sure they will commission a custom report for you if you compensate them enough.

Either way, 2030 grid storage projections are highly speculative. Projections for the next five years are based on announced and planned projects. Nobody is announcing or even planning 2030 deployments yet.

Besides that, what’s your point? Are you trying to say that the previously touted exponential growth is only going to start after 2027? In 2030 perhaps?

As an aside I find it amusing that you or somebody else downvoted me for quoting a report and asking where the exponential growth that contradicts the report findings are going to come from.
You think Hex Rays is going to support Vision Pro? They barely support two dimensions lol
They do sell underwear and other essentials. There are lots of reasons people might need them, not just all-nighters at offices. Especially since lots of convenience stores aren't near office buildings.
Why do you think Reddit wants to monetize via the API and not simply kill third party apps? They'd make a lot more money from ads à la Facebook than via subscriptions.

> But I definitely can say that there will be lasting consequences. This is a negative inflection point for Reddit as a community and as a community, especially if they forcibly remod communities that go dark.

No, there won't be lasting (negative) consequences. I've been a reddit user for a long time, almost since they started. There have been any number of controversies, from jailbait, to fatpeoplehate, to watchpeopledie, to incels, to the fappening, to thedonald, to finding the Boston bomber, to Ellen Pao, to the firing of Victoria, to gamergate, to wallstreetbets, and so on.

They had all been covered in the media but to the average user, they simply don't know nor care about these incidents. So many power users don't understand that the average user simply does not care about any of this. They just want to browse Reddit on their phone for the next 5 minutes.
Amazing work by FAIR! With tools like these, AI-enhanced creativity is going to give us hyper specialized output and thankfully further us even more from mainstream, one-size-fits-all art. We are living in the future!
> His “joke” is the least of our issues. His behavior and communications with us has been all over the place—saying one thing to us while saying something completely different externally; recording and leaking a private phone call—to the point where I don’t know how we could do business with him.

Talk about trying to rewrite history.
> but there is no way they are going to overcome the ecosystem deficiencies to make it worth while in any unbiased cost benefit calculation

Is there a concrete reason for that? A lot of the approach in Elixir is to not go the route of other languages and merely slap an adapter interface on Python libraries. The approach is to approach things from a very Elixir and BEAM specific point of view. This is how Livebook was developed and how the machine learning libraries are being developed.

In fact, one could view it as Python being the one that's going to struggle to overcome the limitations set forth by its own language design. Elixir comes with very tightly integrated tooling (projects, testing, type analysis, static analysis, notebooks, scripting, etc.) that basically has 100% adoption rate without a plethora of third-party competitors and lack of integration with the language such as Python has. With immutability and concurrency built into the language, Elixir has a leg up, and there is active research into bringing static typing to Elixir and also binding Elixir to faster runtime environments, such as Rust.

Python simply cannot make the jump to Elixir, Erlang, and BEAM's language and VM capabilities like they can to a machine learning ecosystem akin to Python's.
Thank you so much for this comment. It means a lot!

Were you able to read both parts?
I am going to take a different stance here but these platforms do provide HUGE value. Hosting is a massive cost and so is moderating the volunteer moderators. These 3rd party apps were free loading, some getting billions of requests in a single month and acting like victims, while reddit bears the burden of OpEx costs. On a CPM basis reddit API fees are actually quite cheap and fair for 3rd party devs. 3rd party apps can turn a profit with app redesign, but, from their comments seems like something they were not willing to do.

Reddit has just laid off employees and is probably paying 4-5x it was before for financing due to interest rates and has to find new sources of revenue, and quickly, IPO or not. Users are great for building communities but they can just as easily turn into a non-rational mob like is being done here.
I don't know why everyone is fixated on running Linux on iPad, what's the problem with the idea of not trashing completely iOS? Opening iPad's bootloader would only result in a bunch of buggy distros with custom 6 years old kernels, which only support 70% of the hw, while having 10% of the original battery life.

On a different note, my e-waste iPad 4 has 1GB of RAM, it still can't open about 50% of the websites anymore, and I can't install a calculator on it anymore - while some capabilities are restricted by hw, most of the restrictions are from sw...
They're already not worth much, that's why I never go on /r/all in the first place.
Anyone been to Buc-ee's? Think gas station convenience store but huge.

https://buc-ees.com/locations/
Ah that old thing again ;)

C isn't a subset of C++ (and never was). But there's still a common subset of both the C and C++ languages which compiles both in a C compiler and a C++ compiler (and behaves the same at runtime despite slightly different C vs C++ semantics), and that common subset is what I call C/C++: the pidgin dialect that's neither quite C nor quite C++ but compiles as both.
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> technical depth

I think this was supposed to be technical debt.
Isn't reddit source code open? Don't we already have an archive of its content? Aren't there even other open source alternatives (lemmy).

Sorry, I really don't get why people are so concerned. If reddid wants to shoot themselves in the foot, nothing is stopping people from self hosting alternatives.
People also get blackout drunk on the street fairly often (at least, in certain areas like Shinjuku for example). That sort of thing can lead to a need for a quick replacement pair…
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It's this perception that assumes that CEOs can do no right by the people if there is a financial interest in not doing so.

Whether you believe this is the case or not, you have to agree that all nuance goes out the window and the mob is only satisfied when it gets what it asks for, not what is in its best interests.
Reddit have used VC money to artificially put rent at zero, destroying community driven forums in the progress.

In a landlord analogy, it would be like opening a big mall and lure shops and consumers at a loss, making the city centre a void, then raise prices when the original functional community in the city is lost.
Which actually means: a scientific community.
Related:

UK universities accused of helping to develop Iran's 'suicide drones' -
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36278280 - 1 hour ago (1 comment)
I am surprised there wasn’t a bigger backlash. However, I’m not certain about the permanence of their growth in subscribers. After a few months, will these new subscribers decide the content is not worth the cost? Netflix’s biggest issue is in its inability to produce “sticky” content now.
> They already had it. And they gave up on it voluntarily

You can't say they they gave up eastern Europe voluntarily when they didn't have a choice. They could handle a revolution in a single Warsaw pact country not in all of them at the same time and especially not at a time when the internal situation in the USSR itself was quite precarious.

> made a bad deal

What deal? There was a no deal involving entire Eastern Europe (how could there be?). What they did sign was the Budapest Memorandum which only affected Ukraine, Belarus & Kazakhstan. And they broke every single point of that treaty, except the one prohibiting the usage of nuclear weapons against any of these countries. In contrast the other signatories (US and UK) did not violate a single one.
I actually preferred that because the low-level creatures seemed more appropriate for most of the Cyrodiilic environments. I'd imagine the imperial presence would quickly drive out most of the tough beasts in most areas of the countryside and the less special dungeons.

I guess lore-wise Cyrodiil was supposed to be larger and then tough creatures would make more sense, but in-game, most of it felt like the back yard of the imperial city.
HN. You can't even post a link to Gary Tan's $10k ETH prediction without it being flagged and removed.
Enjoy a couple very similar HN discussions about the iPhone from 2007:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19185

Why I Don't Think The iPhone Will Sell Very Well (mattmaroon.com)
8 points by mattmaroon on May 4, 2007 | 11 comments

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16394

Why iPhone Will Win (kedrosky.com)
15 points by far33d on April 24, 2007 | 7 comments
Oof, okay. Weird.
What does two articles about security flaws have to do with which browser is the fastest - ie “wins benchmarks”? And what does your ranting about the App Store have to do with an article about a web browser? Apple patched the flaw over a year ago are you claiming that Android has no security flaws?

Do you really want to die on the hill of how far back Apple supports devices with security updates compared to Google? (Hint: Apple released a patch for the iPhone 5s that was released in 2013 earlier this year)

The “mafia tactics” is the same percentage that Google takes and the same percentage the same game makers pay on Google.

Again, the article is about “web browsers”. Even if the Firefox engine or a third party engine were allowed on iOS - it would have no effect on the vast majority of App Store revenue since it comes from games.
This is the Reddit announcement about their hosting [0]. At that point in time, Imgur was already redirecting direct image links to the non-direct wrapper page so that they could show banner ads. This made it difficult for Reddit to show images in the site and app well, thus the cooling of relations between both I had mentioned. It's interesting since Imgur started off as "an image hosting service that doesn't suck" according to the creator, on Reddit [1].

[0] https://old.reddit.com/r/changelog/comments/4kuk2j/reddit_ch...

[1] https://old.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/7zlyd/my_gift_t...
You are right, and we know this factually from YouTube premium providing more revenue than free users. I, the end user of Reddit, should be able to pay for the api access directly to Reddit the company without having to impose risk on Apollo to front massive api bill. There’s no need to funnel anywhere since there’s no ads to be sold.

Am I missing something here? It seems like a blatantly obvious compromise.
I said “personal vehicles”, just fyi. Sounds like you’re describing a work truck.
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