skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
What is the chat context length? Or, to be precise:

1. How long can a single chat input be?
2. If I am using a chat notebook with several previous inputs, when entering some new input below all of those, is it just appending all previous inputs together and sending the entire thing to the LLM? If so, how long can this be? Will it summarize if it exceeds that length?
3. What model is this using? GPT-3.5 or GPT-4 or something else?
4. What plans do you have next to integrate AI into Wolfram products?
Another reason a lot of users like to use third-party apps and old.reddit.com is to avoid all of the "Coins"/"rewards" and NFT avatars that litter the page these days and make it a distracting experience to try and read comments and posts (which should be front-and-center).
Exactly. Have you seen how many WWII or Civil War books there are. Do I need to read them all before I am allowed a valid opinion? All history gets condensed and interpreted. This thread isn't really do a very good job arguing that Jared is wrong, it seems much more like they disagree with some particular point politically, thus he must be wrong.
The 2003 invasion of Iraq wasn't the same group as NATO. France and Germany opposed the US's "coalition of the willing". [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_of_the_willing_(Iraq...
I just don't understand why the big app devs are so against making their apps subscription based. The Apollo dev even said they'd have to charge like $2.50pm for each user. Do it then? If you lose users, you pay less for the API anyway. Maybe less users means less income and less time to spend on the app, but I'm pretty sure most Apollo users would be willing to subscribe to it.

It seems like all the 3rd party apps took this stance and are now just giving up at the first hurdle instead of adapting their business plan. Reddit's own site and app is so bad that people are boycotting them over losing third party apps, and third party app devs don't think they have any way of charging for their apps? Like, are they even listening.
That's the big reason for the chip ban. They're worried about war in the next 5 years and are trying to prevent it. Probably it will help Chinese develop their own technology but thats the tradeoff they're willing to make to try to avoid conflict in the next few years.
Ok how do they work then?
Netflix Conductor Version 3.13.7
They're still pretty squirrelly about the specifics of their commitment, though. In particular, it's not clear if it's hourly accounting (but the fact that they don't say so suggests to me that it isn't), and there doesn't seem to be any discussion of additionality. In other words: it might be that exactly the same amount of renewable generation, and exactly the same amount of fossil-fuel generation, are going to occur with this pledge as would have without, and this is just shuffling some numbers between columns in a spreadsheet.
a beautiful retirement home is still a retirement home.

you either grow your own economy or become a vassal to someone else who does.

if europe keeps stagnating and america keeps posting 4% gdp growth, a day will come when the EU can pass as many laws as they like and it won't matter. it'll be like some shitpoor latin american country against united fruit.
With populists like Johnson and Trump they know that claiming persecution only solidifies support for them.
Emacs Lisp is waay to hard for ChatGPT
Honestly with the amount of charity fundraising that reddit does, I bet they could pull it off. Just recently someone accidentally gave $15k to charity and in response, a bunch of users raised an additional $55k [1]. If they did intentional, annual fundraising with clear goals I wouldn't be surprised if reddit the non-profit organization could be self-sustaining.

But I'm just some guy on the internet who doesn't actually know anything about non-profits.

[1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/1456...
Wasn’t YC an early investor in Reddit? Pretty sure Steve and Alexis were in one of the early batches, right?
Spez, editing comments? He would never.
I'd go so far as to say the free moderation labor is the only thing worth anything.

Acquiring users is relatively easy. Retention is hard.
now that its clear there's a need for an alternative they will show up. It's not that hard to spin up an old pre-shittification version of reddit.
That might be true but this isn't related to that.
This would assume that spez is not doing exactly what the Board of directors want.

I think is he, I think they think this will be better for the long term, users will be upset for a little while, but will not actually leave.

He has already said 3rd party apps make up a small amount of "traffic" and "90% fall in to the free plan" anyway.

So they are betting this is a tempest in a tea pot...

Sadly they are probably right because people are sheep and creatures of habit, for me I am going to archive my data before the 30th and purge all of my accounts. I personally am done with reddit, but I am likely the minority
Intel Details PowerVia Chipmaking Tech: Backside Power Performing Well
Whippersnapper, at one point HN was full of jolly, good fun, and filled with cracks and quips.

I quite like noduerme‘s writings, because it’s novel, raw, and most of all original. Pedantism for its own sake is not discussion — but noise. And most of all… he’s been here longer than you and still retains the original ethos of this platform (punk, create, disrupt — not curmudgeon, consume, and conform).
I got reprimanded for going to urinate at unscheduled times.
Ads are Reddit are a notoriously poor investments compared to other social media sites. Maybe it's an intractable problem given the nature of the site or again maybe they just aren't engaging enough with the communities to target ads more specifically.
I liked the old encyclopedias so much more than the modern ones, as a kid it was fun to look up articles that were significantly outdated. "Here's an artist's rendering of life on Venus may look like"
Little Star does not hold a candle to Zachary's. IMHO :)
Retired Air Force officer gets 3 years in prison for having classified documents
Yes, scrambled eggs works wonderfully in a cast iron skillet but it needs to be well worn in. On a new pan you'll end up with an awful mess. But feel free to go to town on that with washing up liquid, steel wool and a sandblaster if you want. There isn't some magical pixie dust on it you need to worry about rubbing off. Just dry it properly after and oil it before you put it away. Keep frying in it regularly and it'll be fine. A brief hiccup in your skillet's breaking-in process.

Edit: In fact we had scrambled eggs as part of dinner this evening (with rice, chilli crisp, garlic mushrooms and bak choi) and the pan is currently in the sink full of water, where it will remain until tomorrow morning because it's Friday night, dammit, and it will be fine.
I want "noiwillnot.com" and have it be a very simple site, with a list of offenders, and a I pledge/declaration:

"No, I will host or join OSS communities on closed proprietary platforms. Never again. No, I will not join your Discord. No, I will not participate in your subreddit. No, I will not follow your project updates on Twitter."

Matrix, Discourse, and Mastodon exist are are used very successfully by a number of high profile projects. They don't force me to use proprietary, inaccessible, insecure, Electron-ridden clients. They don't force me into draconian privacy policies. They don't force me to prop up VC-funded money pits that will eventually come back around to extract anything they can. They don't treat the closed edges of their platforms as moats by which they can, ooh yeah, build a user base and then eventually hinder the experience in order to extract their deserved profits.

These things matter but people are so short-sighted and forgetful that they just jump from proprietary platform (cough, password managers are another great example), and then inevitably have to jump ship again in N years. Maybe I'm the odd one, but I'd much rather invest a bit more upfront, and deal with UX growing pains, than keeping throwing my knowledge, time, overall investment into a pit that ends up burned by capitalism.
Using the internet never required becoming a quasiborg.

I like the idea in some cases but it's still absurdly komisch to the vast majority of human beings
Reddit announced the pricing with 30 days for app developers to start being charged. That’s not a realistic timeline.
Ask HN: Best Syslog Server?
Looking for recommendations for the best OS/software combo for setting up a simple syslog server (with web reporting). The options are seemingly endless and opinions all over the place. This is for a small shop not large enterprise.
I mean it's the same with HN. I'm here for the comments. I could get articles on another news aggregator.
Or all mammals
Interesting. Any sources on this?
I can sell to you the Turkish president's address for a small price of $1000. PM for details.
To me this reads like digg.com catastrophe, v2!

Oh well...
I watched A LOT of FSD videos... I even seen Teslas do crazy stuff right in front of me like going 90 degrees on a street.

I wish I was as bold as Musk and get away with it like he does.
Not really. And the options market doesn't open until weeks after the IPO.
I don't know if it's "tone deaf" so much as honest. I wish companies were willing to give the real reason behind changes.
Relevant Penny Arcade, literally 22 frickin' years ago: https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2001/06/22/magic-its-what...
> We have global identities-- IPv4/6 address. v6 moreso than v4.

Nope. My identity, as a concept, doesn't change if I'm at Burger King, Starbucks, at home, or at work, or if I'm using a cell phone, or my Sister's computer.

Emails are the closest thing we have to a proper global identity. But it wasn't enough in practice. Reddit gives us a "Reddit" identity across a huge number of subcommunities.

Tumblr, MySpace, Xanga, Discord, Twitter, Facebook... the primary "killer app" that all of these give us is this identity.

Emails are insufficient, because a spammer can create any email address they want, and there's no way for us to share which email addresses are spam with other "allies" on the internet.
I think for a lot of people, they _want_ to see Reddit not as a "company trying to be profitable" but more as "the de-facto community message board on the internet" where everything is free, open, and equitable. Shutting down third-party APIs makes the site less open in a lot of ways, which is rubbing people the wrong way.

That being said, I do agree that they own the API and have every right to charge for it. I am going to be very disappointed that my preferred way of browsing Reddit is going to stop working, since the official app is not a great experience.
The thing is, I sympathize with them not wanting machine learning companies to make money off the site’s content without any benefit to the contributors, moderators, or the site itself. I worry that gating access won’t really change that and just mean that the site owners also benefit at the expense of the community.
Apple's M2 Ultra Seemingly Can't Beat AMD and Intel Rivals
Yeah, but the thing is, you've broken a lot of trust with your employees once you pull shit like this. Places like Apple and Google, who have been shitty in different ways with their RTO plans, are never getting back that trust, not fully. If they go full-blown cynical like this they'd see really serious attrition in places they didn't want it to happen, and no amount of stock would bring those people back.

I know it's not you personally; not trying to shoot the messenger here. People need to understand that these tactics are bad for the company in the long term.
There's lot of information about this on the open web, and tons of resources for varying levels of skill.
What LLM are you using in the backend? Is this an openAI model or a model trained by wolfram?
Looks like it's time to restart Google Wave
Can't really see how the two would be related. I use ChatGPT and while it definitely makes you more productive, it is basically just a faster, more user-friendly way of tapping into community knowledge compared to stuff like Stack Overflow.
I doubt it was about making a stink, it was likely along the lines of "It's your site and your rules, I get that. You're clearly trying to kill off 3rd party apps like mine even if you won't admit it, so I'll make it easy for you and kill it off myself for some compensation."
What'll really bake your noodle is that the question he was answering was almost certainly a plant. Extremely common "town hall" technique (see: the scandal where Clinton was fed "town hall" questions in advance by the DNC chairwoman.)

Any time you see an AMA run by a major corp or media property, it's all just a dog and pony show. Listen to some interviews the same person is giving media personalities and you'll see the same topics and talking points.
Yeah, I think we're not going to agree on this. I very much like living in a world where I get to use stable, released software, provided by my distro, to build reliable software that is forward compatible.

> This wasn't a debian is old thing.

From my reading and understanding, yeah, it was.
‘It’s like infinity’: Inside the historic tragedy at Death Valley's Devils Hole
You're not wrong, but that's a very one-sided view. The alternate outcome is that when the current mods abandon ship there's likely going to be many more people waiting in the wings to get their shot at modding their own sub. What other service is a perfect substitute for Reddit? The thought that most users will give up Reddit cold-turkey and stay away permanently is a bit naive. Internet use can be an addiction and addicts staying away under their own power and no alternative is unlikely. Ultimately a vacuum will be created, it will be filled with fresh bodies, and Reddit will continue along after a short period of unrest and uncertainty, with new mods running new subs.

"The time to buy is when there's blood in the streets."
> Maybe. Probably are a partial truth. Regulatory pressures to crack down on NSFW content of any kind are very real.

Regulatory pressure to perform age verification is real.

But Reddit already requires users to be logged in and their account to have gone to the website and clicked on an explicit toggle in order to access NSFW content.

When (and sadly inevitably if) Reddit requires age verification to access adult content, then it will be on a per account basis - and hence the toggle would not be enabled without it. So at that point the status quo still fulfils the regulatory requirement the account has checked age. It is not clear at all to anyone who thinks about it for a second why third party clients would change anything here.
"economy" is a meme - both china and the EU realized that this anglo-american system has its weaknesses which can be exploited

The Chinese did it by just taking all the IP they could get as a requirement to sell in their nation

The Europeans did it by requiring companies to abide by their new law or pay out fines(basically a quasitax)

The capitalistic system is an addict to access to markets. Governments setup their various Guardrails to ensure that it can't entirely (i lack a nice word for this verb) their society and peoples.
By univs and research labs too, among others. Probably corps too.
Approximately, via predictive coding https://arxiv.org/abs/2006.04182
App developers can just close off their apps until they implement the subscription. I literally can't understand why the 30 days is an issue. Instead of inconveniencing users for a few weeks while the changes are made, they're inconveniencing users for a lifetime by discontinuing the app.
Hey, you can ask, doesn't mean you'll get an answer. I feel like this AMA was just a way to let users vent their frustrations and concentrate the vitriol in one space instead of having it spill over throughout the entire app.
Things start to get interesting if you zoom out:

https://files.littlebird.com.au/Shared-Image-2023-06-10-08-5...
Many older generation scholars had the same gut feeling about the 1911 11th edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica and claimed, with some justice, that it was the last “truly” comprehensive summary of human knowledge.

Of course this was due to the mismatch between the maximum practical and economical size of an encyclopedia and the rate of gain of knowledge beginning in the early 20th century.

When I was 23 years old in 1976 I won a $125 award at Alta Bates Hospital in Berkeley for a faster way to stock the wards. I bought a gorgeous leather-bound gilt-edged copy of the 1911 Britannica for precisely $125 at a huge used bookstore in downtown Oakland—-all 29 volumes, each volume just under 1000 pages.

That 11th edition has always held a place of honor in our home (well, my significant other does not have quite the same warm feelings as I do since $125 was a bucket-load of money when we were getting started).

It makes for interesting reading.

It would be amusing to add the World Book encyclopedia of 2044 to the collection although I doubt my kids or grandkids would be quite as amused as me.
I only drink when I fly. Not on trains, not on car rides, not socially, not alone in my home — only when I fly.

There is nothing to do in an airport or an airplane. It’s like solitary confinement. All you can do is eat, drink, maybe buy a shitty book from the local duty free shop, and wait out your sentence.

A terribly uncomfortable experience.
Why not just independent forum sites like 1998-2008. I was a member of 10 or so very specific forums where I could get expert advice very quickly. That is in the rare event that my problem hadn't already been discussed in great detail with highly detailed walk throughs.

Then each of those forums had a marketplace where you could buy pretty much anything relevant to that interest at great values with scams being pretty much non-existent and any disputes that did arise carried out and mediated in public.

And all the forums had off topic as well where politics and other things were confined.

Oh and advertising was limited to a few banner ads at the top of pages and various plugs in people's signatures.

Lastly, I could get all the relevant updates from the sites I was interested in with a nice orderly rss feed customized to my liking.
> His “joke” is the least of our issues. His behavior and communications with us has been all over the place—saying one thing to us while saying something completely different externally; recording and leaking a private phone call—to the point where I don’t know how we could do business with him.
I am old

I remember Esther Dyson: Release 2.0

She was talking about how, for example a wine forum could make money connecting wine sellers and buyers

do it

Instead of boring ads, make it possible for communities to engage with relevant businesses. Affiliate links, coupons and such. Meaningful dialogue. I am a former mod of /r/usbchardware and we were close to this a few times, with Sanho Hyper and SlimQ. Make yourself the "house brand" of the sub by engaging in good faith and you should be rewarded.

But even just affiliate links, as a former mod of /r/usbchardware, we very often recommend this and that and if we did that with affiliate links then everyone would be better off. And you can make a reputation system here which makes it much harder to just spam garbage.

This is an off-the-cuff idea which probably needs refinement but no way, no way you can't make good money from such hypertargeted communities. Just think outside of the box a little. Corporate spam gets you booted. A company offering insight, honest good advice gets you boosted. It's ... possible. There is a way making money for everyone involved which doesn't involve dirty play.
> Everyone writes in school, I assume.

Not true unfortunately. You would t believe how many illiterate or near illiterate kids are in high school.
He just wanted to talk about Rampart.
Please, pray tell, how would you even determine if something was "for the wrong reason".
Random question, and yes, I’ll google it and ask GPT-4 or Bing (lol) but does anyone here know if it would be possible to run NixOS within WSL2 on a Windows 11 machine without having to dual boot and stuff? That would be incredibly useful for dev work.

Right now I’m using Ubuntu, and it’s awesome, with the obvious caveats, but I am Nix-curious for quite a while and would love to give it a spin in that way if it were reasonably doable. Especially to help friends who are less technical easily install all of the things, it could be a game changer.

Edit: https://github.com/nix-community/NixOS-WSL

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32173111
I think Archive Of Our Own (AO3) solves a much easier problem (hosting bbcode text), and even then, after many years, they are unable to get enough volunteers to implement a direct message system. It's not quite apples and oranges, but I still don't think the same model could possibly work for Reddit. Yes, Reddit users have made some amazing tools for moderation, but they are still fully dependent on preexisting, complex engineering work by the Reddit employees, including the API. Maybe a better comparison would be Wikipedia, but again, much simpler problem.
I notice your links are at medium ... I note a lot of angst about content at medium for difficulty accessing it. Links posted to HN should be accessible to all, or provided there are work arounds.
I get where you're coming from. I think what the article should have said was, Europe has geography that favors multiple independent stable nation states, whereas Chinese geography, while it has certainly hosted many competing dynasties over the centuries, does not favor multiple stable nation states. Basically, it's too easy to conquer the whole, so it's been done many times.
china is the world's factory, arabs have oil. what does europe make?

the way things are going, there will eventually be an american company with a market cap greater than the GDP of France or Germany. at that point, they'll be making the real rules.
>Your citations contradict your claim.

It appears you did not read the claim. Again:

Preservation plans - when they even mention cats - put them dead last on the list of reasons.

>[2], p. 30: "Predation by nonnative and/or nuisance species

YES, dead last, right after:

- Systematic and regular grading on a large scale destroys prime foraging
and nesting habitat

- Insufficient high-quality foraging habitat

- Insufficient mowing during the breeding season to maintain nesting
habitat

- Disturbance by vehicles going off-road, leading to erosion (of habitat)

- Formal and informal trails and unofficial roads in owl habitat

Notice anything common with al of the above?

>The City policy of removing cats and foxes has been effective and beneficial for the burrowing owls

Yeah, the city thinks it's doing a god job as the population went down to zero. Also, notice the foxes. Also, notice that these were not the neutered cats in Google's TNR program that were potentially dangerous. Also...

[3]: Great, evidence of one owl being mauled by a cat. Again, notice that this is the last thing mentioned.

[5]: Oh, so this is different. Just like feral, un-neutered cats roaming the city are different from neutered cats fed by Google's TNR proram. Anyway, again, cats aren't called out.

[9]: "does not call out cats specifically" - isn't that what I said?
An untrusted finger can just switch the main breaker or an untrusted hammer can just smash the meter. There’s far easier ways to be destructive if you have physical access to the meter, which by default everyone is going to have because meters are required to be accessible by the public per electrical/fire/building codes.
"But Twitter's ad staff thinks that advertisers might still be spooked by shifting Twitter policies leading to more controversial content, like pornography and hate speech, as well as more controversial ads promoting things like gambling and marijuana"

This seems particularly disingenuous especially considering the Instagram revelations revealed in the WSJ this week.