skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
JSON is a protocol? I'm not sure I follow.

That said, JSON is still an interesting study. Basically, "take the object literal syntax of javascript, get rid of functions, require double quotes, don't recognize comments." It is good to get folks to stop using 'eval' to pull some data into the browser, though it is a shame that couldn't have been preserved a bit more safely.

And, of course, json-lines and then the steady expanse of json-schema is looking to be hilarious. How long until we add in namespaces to the idea? :D
"Having a working product" is often "too late to invest" in startups. It's just part of the culture. If you want to invest in somewhere that actually makes pizzas, you can buy an Italian restaurant in any city in the country.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2022/12/05/early-vent... : in some sense, the real product, the hugely profitable one, was "the idea of a pizza company".

Or, if we look closer, the idea of a packaging company. They did indeed raise over $400m actual cash. https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/zume-inc/company_fin...
FYI, that article is 4 years old. I think things have changed a lot since then.
> The company had raised $445 million in venture capital funding, including $375 million from SoftBank in 2018 at a $2.25 billion valuation.

> [...] lay off over half its employees and attempt a very hard pivot from robotic pizza delivery to sustainable packaging.

Evaluations apparently mean nothing anymore?
It’s easily 90% of the subs that people actually go to Reddit for.

Nobody cares about the 400 subscriber subreddit from some small town in Idaho with 3 people online at any given moment.
> Many Canadian aerospace engineers have never forgiven the government for dismantling Avro Canada’s CF-105 Arrow, a billion-dollar project that, on October 4, 1957—the same day that Russia sent the world’s first satellite into orbit—rolled out the fastest supersonic jet the world had ever seen.

Not just aerospace engineers, but if you ask just about any Canadian and we're all still super sour about this.
> Our CDN was unable to reach our servers

Not for me.
> Reddit finally finds a way to possibly become profitable and everyone calls them scumbags focused on profit?

If the numbers shared for the API costs is what it takes to be profitable, then it’s not a site that will be profitable and Reddit will go under.
> And if the goal is merely symbolic - a way of showing that Christianity can appeal to people from all over the world

It's not just that it could appeal to the whole world, but that early Christianity was not just an European affair.

> that can easily be communicated through dialog.

All the counter suggestions so far have been vague and ineffectual. If racism could be solved through dialog, we wouldn't even be here.

> But I suspect you know this, and are trying to loop in American "culture wars" as a way of not dealing with something that Afro-Europeans find at least racially insensitive if not outright offensive.

I would suspect that Afro-Germans rather find it offensive that Germany keeps dodging its responsibility for its colonial war crimes and tries to silence critics of its incredibly dubious 2021 "settlement", after 70+ years of attempts to solve this situation.

But Americanisms are dominating the public discourse so hard that these topics aren't even on the radar. (Similarly, we can get massive Floyd protests country-wide on a moment's notice, but none against Germany's police giving guns to and covering for Nazi terrorists shooting Turkish migrants.)

So, sorry, I'm not some insidious white supremacist trying to silence critics, I'm just extremely disappointed in our local problems being ignored in favour of doing whatever the Americans are doing.
this sounds like a bad faith argument.

Everyone knows what profit motive is, cost of doing business, etc. Assume you're talking to people who know what it takes to run a website, and start, first, with the numbers that have been calculated.

According to apollo app, to keep their 3rd party app running, reddit was requesting about $20 million dollars. If you go look at what apollo charges, it's significantly less than that.

Reddit's defense of that charge isnt: Apollo is taking our users, our ad revenue and we want that to be in-house, in our own app, etc. They're saying "this is the cost of the API".

Now, start there, and dial in your criticism to some actual details.
What I Wish I Knew At Age 30
i think that many business get lured into doing data-science because they think that math/stats powers grant borderline-mystical powers and that they can be used to peer into a data warehouse and create ideas/business strategies that no mere mortal (i.e., people with domain expertise in business) could have dreamt up.

But... most businesses aren't that complex, and people can usually come up with really good common sense ideas for how to make improvements.

Data-science is often most effective when it serves less as a visionary idea-maker and more as translator that helps common-sense ideas become real (optimizing values, figuring out the best roll-out strategies, building forecasts).
I think so? I'm building the idea out myself as I learn what this is.

If web 2.0 was the introduction of comment systems, and turned each web page into a performance upon a stage, with a goal of audience participation / loudness / re-sharing, and content creating being the evolution of publication to hustling... I think lots of people would be satisfied by a local internet of people they trust, to share ideas in a non-commercial, private, 'safe' way.

But the real magic to me would be not worrying about it being hacked, or deployed, or monitored, or any of the pollutant infrastructure that we got good at, that unfortunately makes everything operational and robust.
One of my favorite NFL players was Vegan. He would uhh... run people over and generally out class people constantly. A quick google search of "NFL players who are vegan" reveals several well known players. These are among the strongest, most athletic people to have ever existed. So whatever the challenges of being vegan, I suspect "being weak" is certainly not one of them.
This is not about making reddit profitable. It will not contribute to that goal. It will just kill everything that uses the API. The goal is control so that later changes can squeeze the community to death.

They're charging 3rd party apps 20x what reddit itself can make from a user. The goal is to kill the ecosystem and bring it back into the fold.

They even admitted as much when they said that they started thinking about this seriously when LLMs trained on reddit came out.

If they wanted to make reddit profitable they would charge 3rd party apps what they themselves make from users, and float that rate. Like that 3rd party apps cost nothing, even save them money in engineering.

Think about it this way: people are begging to do massive amounts of free work for reddit and their response is to banish all of those people.

This has nothing to do with profits from 3rd party apps.
Seems like the post you responded to mentioned that: "Organizations that proclaim a violent mission, engage in violence, and represent ideologies that promote hate"
Smells like a DDoS.

It's difficult to know if this is a coordinated attack or a side effect of the ongoing protest.

HTTP/1.1 429 Too Many Requests
Connection: keep-alive
Content-Type: application/json
Access-Control-Expose-Headers: retry-after, x-sentry-rate-limits, x-sentry-error
Vary: Origin
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 14:49:00 GMT
Content-Length: 45
Access-Control-Allow-Origin: https://www.reddit.com
retry-after: 14
x-sentry-rate-limits: 14:default;error;security;attachment:organization:error_usage_exceeded
I would loooove for a C:S like city builder where you start in something like a medieval age and then you progress through time. It would be amazing to have nice historical city centers like in Italy or Spain, and this could be heavily changed for different regions (make DLCs for different country styles, like Japan or even USA where you would get to build wild west cities before going into themodern age). Then your city would really feel as if it grew more organically.

One can dream...
Can you demonstrate that to us here? I'm not familiar with cars in the US coming from the factory with window tint. Most of the time front window tint is something dealers might add, but that's not "from the factory".

And no, you don't need to break the windows out. You could also just not drive your car that doesn't comply with the laws into that area. Much like how I wouldn't be walking around NYC with an AR-15 strapped to my back even though that's technically legal where I'm from.
This is not normal. I highly recommend some alterations to your workflow/notification settings/something. You should not spend your whole day getting stressed out by email toasts.
I think that this is 10+ years of resentment on the part of Reddit's users against Reddit itself coming home to roost. The perception of Reddit's attitude to users for a long time now has been "well, we're making all these user-hostile changes, and we don't care what you think about it, peasant. You can just shut up and keep using old.reddit.com as long as we feel like giving you permission to do so, but one day that'll end too." I think for a lot of people this latest drama is just the last straw.
And dedicated bike lanes came with the first DLC (After Dark), so I wouldn't be shocked if they do the same thing again.
I'm not Irish but I did live in Dublin for a bit.

I'm not sure what you're referring to by "free republic". The Irish Free State, which existed 1922-1937?

I think you're mixing up "not British" with "good". Don't get me wrong, I had a nice time in Ireland, I think some things there are done well in their society, I think they're much better educated, and so on, but do you think Ireland doesn't have billionaire landlords, political scandals, corruption, and so on? A centre-right party has been in power since 2020. Not to mention the huge tax schemes upon which modern Ireland became prosperous.

And it takes much more than being anti-English to get an Irish person to warm up to you and embrace you with open arms, especially if you're English.

I should also add that it could take 7 years to get a passport. The 5 years is about eligibility to apply. It can take a very long time to complete the process.

Again, I don't want to offend any Irish people reading this. I enjoyed my time in Ireland and I respect a lot of things about the place.
> You can explain one of the many reasons why gain of function research is necessary: anticipating next year’s version of the flu, designing drugs and vaccines such that resistance mutations reduce evolutionary fitness.

If this research indeed caused the pandemic (and might cause more), do those things make the juice worth the squeeze?

A chance at a better flu vaccine doesn't seem like enough reward for what we all went through.
Why merely shred, when you can truck it down to your local steel mill and melt it in a blast furnace? Ain't nothing coming back from that.
I asked the marketing team about it when I used to work at a restaurant reservation company 5+ years ago and the numbers were clear, marketing notifications work, way more engagement.
Not going to comment about Go here, but the JavaScript code above is confusing for a lot of people. Promises begin to resolve immediately on creation whether or not we've attempted to unwrap their value using `await`.

Therefore, it's quite possible that the first call to `promise()` might resolve after 3 seconds, while the next two calls could take 7 seconds and 10 seconds respectively. In this case, the `Promise.all` would produce a result after 10 seconds, and then the next line `const a = await aPromise` would unwrap the value within `aPromise` immediately, since it would already have been fulfilled.
Monday morning, therefore a flood of bored office workers.
https://jugglinglab.org/anim?2
As the "Administration" tag for my blog will attest, the sysadmin side does take a lot of work. Every now and then something is down, something needs defending (like the current HN users all clicking on the site which is running without any caches…), and on and on. In my experience, it's not so much cybercriminals that keep me busy but bad programmers that write spiders that treat every website in the world like corporate infrastructure. Stuff like git, cgit, radicale, a bunch of web apps, a netnews server, an IRC server, those things aren't tricky. But of course I also decided not to host mail, matrix, Next Cloud and so on. You need to pick your battles, too.
The further back into his catalog you go, the more profound it gets - unfortunately, as he's lost more and more anonymity, he's made his earlier (and more controversial) stuff less accessible.
Presumably you are using old.reddit.com
It's not what they're doing, for the most part, but the way they're doing it.

I don't think many people begrudge them to implementing a paid API to recoup the costs of third-party clients.

But they've set the price way too high, with practically no warning, defamed an app developer and then went "lalalala we can't hear you" when people, rightly, pushed back.

All while using dark patterns to push users to their (objectively awful) official web and mobile apps. Power users (especially mods) just can't use these to do what they need to do, Reddit doesn't care and now Reddit is - effectively - killing off 3rd party apps.
Here's a "Quality vs Bitrate" chart from opus-codec.org, the home of Opus: https://opus-codec.org/static/comparison/quality.svg

Note how AAC has effectively the same efficiency as Opus? HE-AAC and HE-AACv2 are notably better in comparison, and are usable at lower bitrates than AAC.

In cases where "the opposite is very well established", they're talking about AAC-LC. Citations that show otherwise are welcome! In any case, HE-AAC's universality is really beaten only by MP3 (which it trounces).
I wonder if there is a correlation between industry layoffs and outages
No one is upset because reddit wants to make the API paid. Several 3rd party apps were looking forward to working with reddit in this regard.

People are upset because:

- Reddit has been terrible and dishonest in their communication
- Reddit is dropping Twitter-like pricing out of the blue
- These prices seem to have the goal of killing 3rd party apps instead of merely being ‘realistic’ or ‘fair’, like Reddit is claiming
- Reddit is dragging well respected devs through the mud and trying to make them look like the bad guys
HN traffic is honestly not that much. A recent thread puts it at between 10k and 30k visitors while you're in the top few slots, and assuming that lasts 4 hours or so is on the order of 2-5 rps, probably bursting up to 50 rps or so. Any halfway decent caching proxy is going to handle that without breaking a sweat.
What surprises me is that he's not ousted by the board yet. Surely at this point he's causing more trouble than he's worth?
The SPLC has muddied the waters on this question. Even when hate group numbers decrease, they show the opposite. [1]

1: https://reason.com/2023/06/09/southern-poverty-law-center-mo...
HN is also slow right now
There almost certainly is an internal battery. I've seen the figure of 45 minutes battery life (without the puck) repeated in various places. Moreoever, they use a magsafe like pull-detach mechanism which will likely be knocked off fairly easily. There's very little chance Apple would ship a device that crashes if the power cable is jiggled.
might as well just rename it to "Deddit" and move on....
No, you don't get to be a bear at all. That was the mysticism the clan leader tricked you into dying for him for.
That's .. not a given. One of the societies with the highest birth rate in the late 20th century, Bangladesh, is also one of the ones most vulnerable to climate change. When population resource pressure really starts to bite, being pro-natal won't save you from genocide, and indeed may be cited by your oppressor as a reason to genocide you.
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Oh, so that's why I started to get 503 errors from my archive and delete scripts.

Certainly hitting the site harder today by trying to crawl 8 years and 70,000 karma worth of comments in preparation for deleting the account than by browsing my usual subreddits.
It sounds like even in this case it's the context (on a bottle of whiskey) and that they trademarked their own product which made it need to even look at these other tests. And it still might be fine.

Kind of read to your comment and didn't bother reading much further, the article is pretty clear when you look for it and the headline is wildly overstating the situation.
You Broke reddit.
As someone who is a late bloomer there is definitely benefits but also realized that I am almost always going to be the center of attention a lot of places I go

It’s not fun being in a coffeeshop and having middle age women blatantly stare at you and jockey to sit uncomfortably close. I’ve even had a few touch me without even speaking to me

I’m fortunate in that I don’t feel like my life is in danger but sometimes I just want to be left alone and yet if I go places I have to deal with the fact that eyes are on me and I’ll be approached when I don’t want to
That's literally why I'm here right now.

I usually browse Reddit with my morning coffee, this has been a pleasant alternative
Not for me, I get a "you broke reddit" message.
I’d imagine it’s the massive number of user delete requests of people wiping their accounts in protest.
Secure erase works well. Every other process we have around it has too much room for human error to creep in. From misconfigured drive encryption to a hdd making it to the erased pile without being erased.

Just shred it. You can't mistake a shredded drive for a non shredded drive. The margin for human error is much smaller.
Being able to convert energy into money almost instantly is clearly pretty useful to some people.
>It seems absurd to me that a reasonable person would confuse that dog toy parody with an actual Jack Daniels product

The Supreme Court did not rule on this question. In fact it seems like they agree with you.

The decision is about something entirely different.

>It feels to me like there's this emerging zeitgeist of "commercial entities are above real criticism".

While the zeitgeist seems real, it should raise questions when examples like this are misinformation
The linked Bloomberg article[0] had this info I found quite funny:

> Last June, Zume bought a company called Pivot Packaging to jump-start its ability to sell compostable containers to other businesses. It held a one-day test at a Pizza Hut in Phoenix in October, with the goal of expanding the tests to more locations in January or February of this year. But the boxes can’t legally hold food in some jurisdictions, including San Francisco, because they contain the chemicals known as PFAS

So.. compostable forever chemicals, how does that work?

[0] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-13/inside-th...
100 quick posts to this thread is good evidence if this
1.2% of subs does not imply that 1.2% of the user base is gone. A lot of those 500k subs have less than 5k subscribers. Only a small portion of subreddits contribute to the vast amount of content on reddit.
Conspiracy theory: Hacker news is actually just a thin layer of code with a subreddit as its back end.
It's weird how any mention of "hate" or "hate speech" or "hate groups" in an article immediately causes Hacker News to segfault and the first comment is always asking for a definition of the word.

And yet, in every argument defending hate speech under the principle of absolute free speech, or denouncing "the left" or "the wokes" or whatever the bugbear of the moment is, they seem to know exactly what hate means and how to apply it.

Anyway, since no one is going to bother reading TFA and this thread is probably going to be thoroughly derailed and flagged, the effect seems to be that deplatforming works:

We study the effects of six network disruptions of designated and banned hate-based organizations on Facebook, in which known members of the organizations were removed from the platform, by examining the online engagements of the audience of the organization. We show that on average, the network disruptions reduced the consumption and production of hateful content, along with engagement within the network among audience members. The results suggest that strategies of targeted removals, such as leadership removal and network degradation efforts, can reduce the ability of hate organizations to successfully operate online.
Not going to comment about Go here but JavaScript code like what is written above confuses many people. `Promise`s begin to resolve immediately on creation whether or not we've attempted to unwrap their value using `await`.

Therefore, it's quite possible that the first call to `promise()` might resolve after 3 seconds, while the next two calls could take 7 seconds and 10 seconds respectively. In this case, the `Promise.all` would produce a result after 10 seconds, and then the next line `const a = await aPromise` would unwrap the value within `aPromise` immediately as it would already have been fulfilled 3 seconds into the `await Promise.all([promise(), promise()])`.
I just got that! Laughed my ass off. If ya say so!
I found: https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/why-are-you-censoring...

TIL that regulatory standards for products within your our country is colonisation.
I find the possibility of people who think the individual is more important the collective gaining increased political power terrifying. If they get their way, and there is colossal support for them (and America) to fall in this trap, the world will be fragmented and wars will be easier to happen - to the immense profit of the defense industry.
And to think ASD was entirely hand rotoscoped!
Obviously, an organization violating our policy against hate organizations, which policy we will never fully define or spell out, because it would allow hate organizations to adapt and evade our policy. Do not worry though, we know what it is and you can always ask us if you're in doubt. If we banned it, then it's a hate organization, and if we didn't, then it's not. Unless we made a mistake, in which case we apologize for any inconvenience.
> Crockford wrote his book "The good parts" that tried to write java in javascript

This is a weird statement because Crockford is known for actively recommending against writing JavaScript like Java, and goes as far as saying JS is best used when you avoid classes and `this`.
Good question.

The Babylon Bee was a satirical news website, like The Onion, that was deplatformed (censored) from Twitter for making a joke about a trans person.

Hate is often defined on these platforms as speech that can cause offense to some people.
I've been a long-time user of Reddit (I still remember when WSB had only 12m users) and I can't remember an outage.
Reddit asks for email but it's not required. They use dark patterns to make it seem like it's required though.
There's a bunch in the references in this paper, and an entire "Terrorism and social media" wikipedia page. Those are fine places to start.
Reddit definitely doesn’t have outages like this almost weekly. Maybe ten+ years ago, but it’s rare now.
Is that a logical AND between all of those?

Because if it's a logical OR, butchers might fall into the first 2 categories.

And the last part is not very enlightening to define a hate group as it also uses the word hate again
Pfff. The environment!!! Do you know just how much power a modern datacenter consumes?

Also, if we start dictating what acceptable and what's not acceptable, where do we stop? U okay with me banning something you use?