skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> How does a person go from being at Harvard to concluding the only way to make it better is to first make it worse

Harvard is where TK racked up hundreds of hours across several years as a participant/victim of an MKULTRA experiment investigating how to break down someone's belief system.

'In his second year at Harvard, Kaczynski participated in a study described by author Alston Chase as a "purposely brutalizing psychological experiment" led by Harvard psychologist Henry Murray. Subjects were told they would debate personal philosophy with a fellow student and were asked to write essays detailing their personal beliefs and aspirations. The essays were given to an anonymous individual who would confront and belittle the subject in what Murray himself called "vehement, sweeping, and personally abusive" attacks, using the content of the essays as ammunition. Electrodes monitored the subject's physiological reactions. These encounters were filmed, and subjects' expressions of anger and rage were later played back to them repeatedly. The experiment lasted three years, with someone verbally abusing and humiliating Kaczynski each week. Kaczynski spent 200 hours as part of the study.'

^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski#Psychological_st...

(He was 17 years old during his second year at Harvard).
This is a really interesting take because it’s so opposite of how Reddit sees things. Of course they own all the communities? But, no, not really. It’s like your landlord thinking they own your business.
Covid is no longer a threat for the vast, vast majority of people. If it is for you, that’s a big bummer (I mean that genuinely. A close friend of mine is immunocompromised due to chemo and it fucking sucks), but you can wear an N95 on transit or, better yet, pay the congestion charge and enjoy the _lower traffic_ commute than before.
Reddit can definitely afford to hire mods for the default subs tho, if they want.
Yes. But Red Hat, Fedora, openSUSE, SLE, Arch, Alpine, Slackware, Gentoo, NixOS are not. I have a hard time to think these represent less than 10 percent all together
> That may never happen, current technology does not seem up to it.

This already exists, provided the route is extensively mapped beforehand, in two separate products (Cruise, Waymo)
>Reddit, like so many other places, believes it has a right to extract the value the community creates.

>But it doesn't.

I'm sorry, but it absolutely does. Yes, it has to do this subject to brand risk constraints. But the idea that investors should just expect to make losses on the site is insane. That trying to turn a profit on their own platform represents "freeloading". I guess normally I'd feel sorry for whatever platforms are afflicted with people who hold this sort of ideology, but Reddit has done a lot to cater to people who think like this.
A former Reddit CEO alleges that Pao wasn't the one who ordered Victoria to be fired.

https://old.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/3d2hv3/kn0t...
Okay but humans did this in a ton of environments pre-agriculture. The Amazon was a large grassland with patches of forest that tribal peoples shaped into a giant rainforest over time. This is thought to be the case with tons of places in the old world as well. Humans have been doing mega engineering type stuff for at least 20-30000 years
The more I think about this the funnier it is. A third party app built by two guys is so much better than the official Reddit app that people are willing to pay actual money for it... and his response is to throw shade at the developrs?
Who plays the live shows?
Anyway, if we want to apply utilitarian reasoning, taking someone’s ideas seriously simply because he garnered attention through random killings would seem to encourage more people to do violence for various different causes.
"Adding ML to X" is a powerful way to probe what X is really made of and maybe even give direction to efforts to improve X.

That is because "ML" is a proxy for an entire domain (data science) that has both very distinct requirements and patterns developed over decades and is now evolving very fast as it broke out of the whitecoat lab and (for good or bad) into our lives.

The ascent of python is as the article noted "accidental" but that doesnt mean it is suboptimal given all the requirements of the domain and the available alternatives (here and now).

Its natural to focus on an exceptional attribute (like concurrency) to motivate even having the discussion but this addresses only one of three critical requirements if you decide to do everything within one langauge.

1) Ability to experiment interactively (REPL and friends), expressivity, human oriented language design etc

2) Ability to build production scale models (training or estimation phase) utilizing heterogeneous and fiddly compute

3) Ability to deploy to diverse devices and footprint / latency requirements both natively and as part of a web application. NB: Its only here that the intrinsic qualities of erlang might put it above the rest

Historically there was never an ecosystem than could do all that optimally within just one language. Some of the requirements are arguably even incompatible.

The current preferred solution is not "python" but python/c++ which does some of that well (1, 2) and 3 only passably.

The only declared single language contender is julia but its very far from being a complete ecosystem in the above sense.

Another emerging possibility is mojo, as a superset of python. But that is not even available yet.

Back to the erlang/elixir combo. Its not even clear to me if it can address all of the above in a passable way.

But on the other hand ML is really shaking the game and what is mayne more imprortant is the vitality and resourcefulness of different communities to develop in the direction of the new rewuirement.

We have not seen the end of ecosystem evolution.
The community has provided Reddit value for free.

It is Reddit’s to use at that point, right or wrong.

Unless the community were to just up and leave, I’m not sure anything changes. People provide other social media services their content for free too, even those they don’t like.
Tourists certainly don't drive in Manhattan. They don't want to get stuck.
Poor Reddit. Doing exactly what they intended to do...
And so were cars at one point. Helicopters are still "flying cars", airplanes are "flying busses".
I agree entirely about how Reddit is essentially become a parasite on it's communities. It does sound odd, but IMO it's very true.

I look at these situations where growth is the main goal and it's always a matter of time before the goal outgrows the actual utility or function of the company itself. Reddit really has a job of just keeping the servers online and being there to enforce basic "property" rights.

They make a boat load of money from the dumb cosmetic features of the site.
I’m not claiming it is not a fork. It is.

That said, people expect certain things when you market something as a fork, so I’m a little careful in making that the first thing someone hears of the language.
Ok, even in that scenario if you’re this many years in, have this many users, this many daily posts, and your underlying tech is a CRUD app, it’s not because you have a free API. It’s because you royally screwed up many, many, many things.
He said the $10m wasn’t serious and he said he might consider selling it if the right offer and mission presents itself.
I find it very interesting that the news covering his life neglects to mention the MKULTRA part...
One of the most promising aspects of psychedelics is how the treatments can have long-lasting positive effects. To me, this indicates they’re treating the problem opposed to masking it like exisiting treatments. It’s a bit of a shame the research was stifled for 50 years, but I’m glad we’re able to carry on now.
It's just a tool, like a hammer. You can misuse a hammer and hit your finger, or you can grab it, hit a nail and be done.
There is a non-zero chance they realize they fucked up and backpedal on this.
It really shows how braindead Reddit leadership is.
In other words, if you rely on public transit to get to work, you can expect to be late about 4 times per month.
Ah yes I forgot about that. Don’t use azure much these days but we used to use that for dev vs production.
If you want the context for spez's replies and the comments by the other admins:

https://old.reddit.com/r/Save3rdPartyApps/comments/145bxmi/c...
Exactly, you can see the prompt in this file [0]. I'm not sure how LangChain arrived at their default agent prompt, but you'll almost certainly want to write your own for performance reasons if you put something into production.

[0] https://github.com/BloopAI/bloop/blob/main/server/bleep/src/...
Can anybody explain why they didn't do exactly this? I spend tons of time on Reddit in Apollo. I would have gladly paid $10 a month for app access. Keep the rate limiting to prevent AI training scrapers or something. Problem solved? What am I missing? There has to be a reason they are acting like this and so actively ignoring the users of 3rd party apps, right?
If you’re serving DNS to the clients too, and you’re able to push updates to these devices regularly enough somehow, you can also use real certs with names under some public DNS zone that you control. (Make it resolve to a public IP on the Internet so you can issue/renew the cert, and a private IP on the private network.)

But yeah, one way or another, you need a secure context for WebRTC to work. That’s in the spec, and browsers follow it.

Perhaps in your context it really is nonsense, but how is the browser to know that your network/physical layer is secure?
Not a single one of our data scientists knows how to use multiprocessing. Their jobs are all 1 CPU core, hundreds of gigabytes of RAM. The EC2 instances they run on end up wasting tons of cores, even with high-memory instances. This isn't necessarily Python's fault, but rather because Python has a lot of users who are not computer programmers.

One thing we can blame Python for is that the data scientists can't ever loop over their data with a regular loop. Simply impossible; it's too slow and would immediately wreck performance. They're more Pandas programmers than they are Python programmers; everything has to be done with Pandas operations for performance to be acceptable.

This limits our (the computer programmers) ability to help out, because the languages we use are not slow like that, so we may give suggestions from our world that simply can't be used in Python because it's too slow. "Can't you just loop over the data and do XYZ?" Nope, they can't.

We still use Python because it's all the data scientists know, and it's easier/cheaper to just write a bigger check to AWS than to hire people with both data science and computer programming backgrounds.
Why do they want to kill them so bad if the end user was a paying customer?
The fact that the 5x outlier may be qualitatively worse is something that you pin down using percentiles, which is what everyone does, either 1% or 0.1% low. The argument about time-weighted frame staleness is not mathematically valid.
Doesn't comment editing basically destroy any protections that reddit has regarding user generated content?
If you want to filter out the rotor noise alone, switching to a directional microphone would be the best option IMO.
Do you know you’re not the only user of the road? And there’s tons of videos, with predictable abuse, where people allow cars to do illegal/dangerous things to see “if it’ll figure it out”?

If Tesla influencer his me with his car, I didn’t consent to that. Or when erratic behavior (like FSD driving against the traffic, which you have tons of videos of) will cause others to crash - they didn’t consent to that.

Tesla has full “test in prod” approach to their FSD. You can see that from erratic regressions and hot fixes.
Why is it that using 64GB of RAM causes bandwidth to drop?
Or knew how to make money in the first place.
Perhaps they don't but it puzzles me why. With the suggested approach they would have mutual interest in making 3rd party apps flourish. Now they alienate the community and will certainly drive many people away.
Not necessarily.

1. It's entirely possible they could make more money monetizing the highly engaged users that use mobile apps through ads than those apps make directly.

2. Their cost structure is higher than the apps since they need to own and manage the backend and promote the overall Reddit branding.
Is there anything in the world which is not a double-edged sword, something completely devoid of downsides? AFAIK only certain transcendent entities are declared to have this property.
> but there is no way they are going to overcome the ecosystem deficiencies to make it worth while in any unbiased cost benefit calculation.

Another way to say this is: "no other language will ever be better than X", which is clearly not true.

Eventually something better will arrive. Maybe that's Elixir, maybe not, but is sure won't be Python forever.
> It convinces itself it has a right to profit here, but it really created almost none of the value.

I used to believe that too, but reality has convinced me of the opposite. There isn't, and there has never been, a large (hundreds of millions of active users) online community that wasn't run by a for-profit entity. So the really difficult part, the one where the value ultimately comes from, does seem to lie in hosting and running such a community, and in attracting users. If that wasn't so immensely difficult and expensive, everyone would be doing it.

The demise of Reddit has been a long time coming, and now that it is actually happening, there is once again no plan for "the community" to move forward. The open source alternatives are all effectively worthless, with Lemmy apparently telling people not to sign up (yep, seriously!) because they can't handle the influx. No doubt Facebook & Co, or perhaps new commercial competitors, are going to pick up the slack as usual, because the real value is in the infrastructure and network effects that make platforms like Reddit possible in the first place.
To me this whole thing is about whether it's ok for a failing tech company that users depend on to pivot, and whether this applies to reddit currently. Failing would be any company that can't continue in its current direction. I think it's not ok to ruin a product or service people depend on for no reason. I also think Reddit is failing in a sense and has good reasons to do most of what they're doing. Perhaps what would make it ok with me is if they had made the API change in such a way that supported freemium business models for third party app developers. For instance accounts could be limited to 20 subreddits unless the app pays some amount per user that would be a fraction of a reasonable charge to the user. Like say 50 cents a month.
Thanks for the honesty! That is of course against hacker news guidelines, but oh well. Specifically “Eschew flamebait.”

Regarding the topic at hand: that’s plausible. I wouldn’t describe the west as “scrambling to limit AI development” though, more “establishing conventions and rules and accountability and and and”. I guess that might slow down research, but I don’t see it as that simplistic, like a blue bar ticking up in Civ; AI will need some major paradigm shifts before it gets really crazy, and I think a healthier and more sustainable field helps that rather than hindering it.

Plus there’s the fact that “the west” (kinda hate these terms tbh) has ~66% of all CS research - https://m-cacm.acm.org/magazines/2022/4/259407-trends-in-com...
His reply has 0 class and no professionalism whatsoever. I am not familiar with him, how did he became CEO.
Yes. Most of our infra is setup using the Azure portal. MS customer satisfaction engineers constantly recommend we set up things using the portal.

AZ CLI is also terrible for interacting with Azure.
>www.refererheadersettlement.com

Is this about the Referer header? Isn't the Referer header standard practice across browsers and websites? I'm curious why Google is thought to be at fault for the Referer header.

Disclosure: I work at Google, but have no knowledge about this case.
> 100ms+ frames are not a problem on modern games and modern hardware, and when they are

There’s a multitude of such bugs which ship with modern titles. Benchmarking sites don’t use the release day build of 2077 for very good reasons.
Lead developer here.

I think it’s a little misleading that the title of this post is «Gren - an Elm fork».

While technically correct, I think there are many who will be dissapointed to find that Gren and Elm are incompatible languages.

In addition to some syntax changes and improvements, Gren adds the support of a NodeJS target. It’s still early, so we don’t support all of the builtin APIs yet, but we’ll slowly get there.

AMA
Ah, there are definitely constructs that governments find more useful. Plenty of companies, for example, managed to operate on both sides of both world wars.
Both ECL and GCL are descendants of Kyoto Common Lisp. That said ECL (generally speaking) is a complete as ANSI Common Lisp implementation[1], has more "man years" under its belt, has active community, better support across platform, is recognized by Common Lisp developers and has more "man years" under its belt.

[1] One of current GCL goals is to reach it
Well spez isn’t exactly a good businessman, so under different leadership I think Reddit could be profitable.
Well, it's true. Third party apps don't have to deal with the entire server side of Reddit, ie hosting text, images, video etc. They're just dealing with the client side off a free API, of course they're profitable. At least the CEO is honest that companies exist to make money, of course.
Thinking "quantity has a quality all its own," I've started to wonder more about the black swans on the horizon, should you look far enough: cosmic rays bitflipping your memory, unusual collisions, ridiculous rebuild times, the LTO-machine syndicate ...

Maybe file fixity is in the future, where the concept is more foreground than before.
Possible suicide: https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/unabomber-ted-kaczynski-found-...
Yes, it sounds dumb, but just don't. Make shorter lists.

I can only speak for myself of course, but I had this problem and I observed a few things:

- Some tasks just don't get done even if they've been listed. They are clutter.

- Some tasks don't really need to be on the list, you'll get them done anyway.

- Tasks should be actionable, and they should be considered emotionally, not just conceptually

Sometimes I'd sit down with only the intention of making a list, and then tasks come flooding into my mind, but after a while of struggling I had to observe myself and be honest, which led to paying attention to how these lists made me feel, the items but also the length.

At the end of the day a todo list is not just a conceptual list of things that belong on a todo list, it is an aid, and as such it should be actionable. If looking at it causes you stress because it's too long, it might be more accurate in what data is storing, but it is ineffective because you don't want to even look at it.
This is about Nuland's interference:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/feb/07/eu-us-di...
Yes, I know that a decent proportion of the community uses bloop to understand open source repos. It can be especially helpful for repos that lack documentation.
> Are you trying to say that these people wouldn't already exist without the bus?

No. They would be doing other productive things. But right now, they have to spend their productive power on driving buses.

This is simply a huge waste of human potential.
Let me put it this way then: You are disagreeing to the notion most people ("computer users", as you put it) can't read.

That's fine, and I even agree with you there; most people fortunately are literate today.

The thing is I also never made such a notion nor was it the only notion I put forth. Again: "Not everyone can or will read." Emphasis mine.

This is the fourth time I'm repeating myself, by the way. No, you still aren't reading. I do thank you once again for demonstrating my point, but this is getting a little ridiculous.
>Ok, even in that scenario if you’re this many years in, have this many users, this many daily posts, and your underlying tech is a CRUD app, it’s not because you have a free API.

Well, the argument is that it at least partially because they have a free/cheap API. And they're willing to stake a lot on betting that changing this will pay off.
There’s nothing inherently mathematically special about 1% or 0.1%, you can also use 0.0042% or 0.00069% which highlights this kind of extreme outliers more.

Benchmarking sites use 1% or 0.1% because they better highlight the commodity PC hardware rather than the games bugs and architecture.
I'd take a Butlerian Jihad over Unabomber's activity any day.
That isn't true. Maintenance isn't free. And over the lifetime the total cost may be less, out is probably higher than most people expect
non-paywall link: https://archive.ph/22j9L
People who use third party apps are power users, most users simply don't care. I also highly doubt power users will leave, they say that but they're the ones that use Reddit the most, so it's very likely they might take a break for a while but begrudgingly come back in a month or so.
Isn’t polling one of the features that Reddit doesn’t provide an API for? I think that would skew poll results heavily. I know Apollo can’t do polls and it’s one of the reasons I never partake in them on Reddit.
Right, the investors are the problem. Reddit made a deal with the devil and now the community that made it bears the cost.
As a product discord is one of the best. But, it’s riddled with exactly the same incentive issues that eventually build up to the crisis we’re seeing now. Begging for another overlord isn’t going to solve any problems, just kick the can down the road.

We need something fundamentally different, whether it’s fediverse-style or just a different licensing on the content. I don’t know. But this pump and dump VC to IPO to “value-extraction” is guaranteed failure. Perhaps some businesses cannot exist without that, but a CRUD forum certainly could.
Utility-scale PV and wind are already cheaper than coal and prices are still falling, so pretty much every new green energy installation is an example.
I would say this is right for the first 2-4 jobs but then I would start looking for really promising startups with equity and stay until vested (normally 4 years) unless it's clear the startup is not doing well or you see another startup you just cannot miss. Having said that in my actual career I missed out on a big equity payday due to the dot com bust and my best year I earned about 200% of my base salary + benefits due to bonuses. Later in my career 35-60 I did better maxing out 401K, and stock option plans and just accumulating IRA money. I wish I had converted my traditional IRAs to Roth IRAs during the dot com bust when I was self employed running my own business and making very little.
Is this just a US thing? I thought this was common knowledge.
Killing 3rd party apps lets them funnel traffic to the official app instead, or the official website. Not sure if you've compared 'old' reddit to new (on desktop), or the app to 3rd party ones, but there's a lot of gamification, ads, bad patterns they're pushing with what they have. I suspect it's largely to monetize on the user more significantly via tracking data and such.

I assume they'll kill off old reddit shortly here, once they implement the API changes.
Yes, more than zero people will leave. I'm sure Reddit has already factored this in to their analysis.