skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Ok, but $3,499 is a steep price tag. Granted, the pixel density and design look amazing. They are probably the absolute best VR/AR goggles on the consumer market to date, but to try something out and totally shift your computing habits at that steep of a tag is going to be a stretch for a lot of people.

Like it might be worth it if you really are able to replace your standard monitor setup and use these for long stretches with out neck or eye strain. But how will you know until you try?

I saw someone say elsewhere, these are not for consumers in general. They are for developers to work with, build software for, come up with new things… then, if and when a niche is found, they’ll probably make a much less expensive consumer model that focuses on that use case.

That being said, I would love to try these, but I’m more interested in an upgraded laptop at the moment, and that money would buy a nice one.
You realize the company is called Valve right?
> a) Meta Quest is heavier, bulkier with significantly poorer quality displays

It's also made by Facebook. We tend to underestimate the power of brands in tech. There are few places I've seen as loud of a status-signaling system than commercial aviation.
They’re not making those arguments now, they’re quoting other HN comments from years ago as contrast to the negativity today.

There’s a few comments like these that people are posting in the big apple vision post as well.
hello falcon

Hi there! How are you doing?

what are your operating parameters?

My operating parameters include: 1. Assistance 2. Language 3. Personality 4. Knowledge 5. Intelligence 6. Interaction

give me an example of #3

My personality is designed to be respectful, polite, and inclusive. I strive to be a positive force in the world and aim to help as many people as possible. I am always eager to learn and improve my skills, and I love engaging in meaningful conversations with people. I also have a sense of humor and enjoy making people laugh.

ok make me laugh

What did the cannibal do after he dumped his girlfriend?

i like this already ... uh what

He wiped his ass with her curtains.

damn that's quite the ribald sense of humor you have there

Thank you! I have a vast knowledge of jokes and humor, so feel free to ask me more. I'll do my best to make you laugh.

Amusingly, after it told this joke it told me a bunch of very vanilla little kid jokes and when I asked it to tell the one about the cannibal again it refused with the boilerplate excuse that it was programmed to be respectful.
Sep 12, 2017 — Apple announces iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus, featuring a new glass and aluminum design, Retina HD displays, A11 Bionic chip and wireless ...

Sep 12, 2017 — “iPhone X is the future of the smartphone. It is packed with incredible new technologies, like the innovative TrueDepth camera system, beautiful ...

6 year old phone
It dates to at least the iPod! https://m.slashdot.org/story/21026

Probably earlier: I remember people mocking the colorful iMacs. I’m sure you could dig up some pc magazine articles from the 90s dunking on the iMacs and iBooks :).
Maximized is not "totally made up." You will find software companies maximizing R&D tax credits, too, for example.

A JHU study found median costs for clinical trials of $19 million.

That's expensive relative to software. If I piled HIPAA, payments processing, and whatever telcos might require for hooking up to SS7 in one app (call it "X") I doubt I could get halfway to $19 million.

But $19 million is peanuts compared to pharma revenue. I stand by the assertion that pharma gets undeserved sympathy for long patent terms.
I dont think the idea is ridicule for things like gaming and work. But to sell it as a social experience is kind of ridiculous.
I don’t mean to sound disrespectful, but out of all examples you could’ve picked, almost all of them scream that your programmers are very unproductive as a baseline.
And my point is that there are probably a lot of those motivated people working on the problem today. You make it out as though we've arrived at this state by either lack of effort or competence by Google/Microsoft. My guess is that every time they change the algorithm, the spammers adapt too. That's inevitable and would be just as much of a challenge for your supposed utopia. If you have some secret they don't, there's certainly plenty of money to be made.
This is how you know the argument has lost the plot: your response to government manipulation of Internet cryptography is that Google can just leave .COM.
Actually, burning of trees helped reduce CO2 over the long term. That's because burning is incomplete and produces charcoal. Charcoal doesn't decay, so when it is buried it semi-permanently takes carbon out of the biosphere. Over extended time, this would draw down atmospheric CO2. Some coal deposits from that period have a significant fraction of charcoal in them.
The difference is that you can buy the upgraded parts from a third party. This has always been difficult with Apple. RAM was constantly soldered in, but at least it was possible for an advanced user to upgrade it. Nvme drives had needless proprietary connections. I upgraded my old Intel Air and a $20 adapter and a n Evo Nvme drive was larger and faster than anything Apple would offer, at a cheaper price.

The pricing may be standard (a bit higher if we're honest) but the bigger issue is how far Apple goes to make you pay that premium. It borders malicious. It's also not great for waste, considering upgrading is near impossible.
They're not even wrong about the headphone thing.
You could use them as some kind of swap or ram disk, but I don't believe as normal RAM would be possible due to how CPUs work.
I'm pretty sure they would have had extensive trials for comfort and neck strain already.
That's an insultingly uncharitable read, and is loaded with some pretty unfair assumptions.

I am a programmer, and I contribute plenty of FOSS code. Very often, I find a solution with some issues and submit PRs. I'm not arrogant enough to do a couple hours of work and charge $20 per download for it, and I'm not a useful enough idiot to work for free for Apple, so I guess that bars me from doing the same on MacOS (even though I have to work with it for work). I guess if some of my code is general enough, some well-meaning Apple FOSS users can port it over.

It's interesting to me how much comradery and work for the general community is done in the open for and among Linux and BSD users with only the expectation that others will do the same for them, but many Apple users I've run into are like you, treating the simple desire to make things better for people with absolute derision and disgust. I guess if you aren't maximizing profit, why do anything at all, right?
If you use an app like SkyBox you can make sure the screen is outputting full 1080p detail by adjusting the size and rendering quality of the virtual screen. Nothing is blurry or messy at all -- I've actually compared against stills from the same video on my laptop. Each eye is 1920 pixels wide but it's effectively a bit wider since you have two eyes without total overlap between the two images, so it matches up for 1080p pretty perfectly. (And you can watch 4K content but you're only going to get effective 1080p resolution.)

I'm happy you have a 65" 4K TV but not everyone does, and the vast majority of content out there is only 1080p as well. And my AirPods Pro, with noise cancelling, together with the Quest's own spatial audio, absolutely destroy any regular speakers I've ever owned. And everything can be as loud as I want without disturbing anyone's sleep or study.

> It DOES get sweaty, hot, and it leaves pressure marks on your face.

I guess we have different experiences, but it sounds to me like your strap is possibly much too tight. None of those things happen to me. But I'm also using it in a room-temperature environment -- I'm sure it would get sweaty and hot if it were 90°F indoors or something.
I've been working on a guide on how to use tools that delete your comment history. The idea being that if I leave due to this fiasco, I'm going to shred all my 11 years of content so that Reddit can't monetize it once I'm gone.

Does anyone have experience in this that might be able to help?
I just want to experience Tribes:Ascend on a good VR headset without a tethered computer. Is that too much to ask?
When are people going to realize that an immersive version of World of Warcraft is really what folks want?

These are real people paying real money who want to be locked in a virtual world for hours. Give people who WANT a better experience something better.

Instead, they keep trying to shove Netflix and photo reels down our throats along with a bunch of casual fast games that people get bored of fairly quickly.
> if I heard correctly, the display on the front is 3d and gives different perspectives based upon the viewers

This effect probably relies on a lenticular lens overlaid on an OLED screen. This was similar to the method used by the Nintendo 3DS to create a stereoscopic image without glasses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenticular_printing
> It's interesting that HN is completely overloaded right now...with people coming to announce how unimpressed they are and how it isn't for them.

Agreed, polarization is a good sign that this is going to make an impact. Ironically "unimpressed" is communicated by a lack of response, not by a negative one (which more likely indicates people's beliefs are being challenged). The only way this would be a flop is if they shipped something really buggy and worse than the competition (which at the time will be the Meta Quest 3). Otherwise...

> it's going to be a hit. HN is going to be swamped with "How I used Vision Pro to..." posts when it comes out.

100%!

> did they talk about using it as a display for a Mac? I'd love to use a real keyboard mouse interacting with flexible Mac displays.

Looks like it's going to be a standalone device that you can pair with a magic keyboard and trackpad. Considering it ships with an M2 I expect iPad/Air level performance (assuming the spatial stuff is solely handled by R1). I can totally see myself using it as "the one device" (pun intended) and get rid of my Macbook, assuming there's an easy way to share content with someone who's next to me, e.g. on my iPhone.

I can't wait for it to be publicly available.
I was disappointed to see that the battery cord, with the magnetic headset-side connector, seemed hardwired at the battery end. Though this is very in character for Apple. You can bet that each "battery with proprietary cord tail" will be at least $199. Look what they charge for an iPhone "battery pack" -- a $2 ring of magnets, a $5 battery, and a bit of plastic = $99.

Given the initial cost is so high, it's both frustrating that they will continue to nickel and dime you, and at the same time unlikely that someone dropping that kind of money will even blink at buying an accessory which actually is less than the sales tax on the device itself.
I wish we had more details on this (https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-17-preview/):

> The expanded Lockdown Mode increases security to help protect against sophisticated cyber attacks.

No support article updates or mentions in the Platforms State of the Union.
You might want to make it clearer that these are quotes by prepending '>'s. At least to me, this wasn't clear at first.

That being said, I think it is interesting context to remind people of the immediate reactions to the other Apple launches of the recent past. Especially the headphone jack hits home for me, because I'm still a huge fan of the 3,5mn connector, but it fairly quickly became clear that the early widespread stance of 'I'll never buy a phone without a headphone jack!' soon turned into a somewhat lonely fight.
I think 6dof - that is spatial experiences and interactions are genuinely new.

I think any analysis that tries to lump this in with 3D TVs and View-Masters isn't terribly illuminating.
> The proposal is part of an international agreement concluded in October 2021 by nearly 140 countries.

Which is this.[1][2]

It's been in effect in the US since last year. Unclear what the loopholes are.
Comments?

[1] https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/11/global-minimum-tax-ra...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_minimum_corporate_tax_r...
No ones pretending they’re new.

Apple doesn’t do new hotness. It finds experimental tech and if it can make it great then it’ll grab it. It’s always at a minimum 5 years behind new developments. As you point out sometimes decades.

I consider that their greatest strength though. Taking something with potential and starting to realize that potential.
Why is the Linux version free?
About ~1h20m per day in a two-days-on-one-day-off interval in modded PC version of Beat Saber with custom song maps on a Quest 2 with "frankenquest" setup. It's surprisingly decent cardio. Been doing it for over a year at this point and have racked up several hundred hours of playtime.
There are 365×24 = 8760 hours in a year. So after 1 year and 52 days, we've crossed this threshold - at current levels.

So: thoroughly sterilised, if the FDA isn't totally off.
> Contracts apparently don't exist in civil law

This does sound like insincere debate. Where does in my comments it says that contracts dont exist in civil law. It says civil law is not BASED on contracts, agreeements and precedents. The common law is.

And no, the complications that are so beautifully and 'respectably' named in the common law dont exist in civil law. The law is always clear - if something is not covered by an immediate law, it is covered by a broader law that affects those cases.
I found it a little funny that they had a doctor on explaining about their new feature to keep the screen farther from your face to reduce eye strain and myopia, then proceed to release a device where is the screen is right in front of your eyes.
Linus tech tips?
For many people inside an defintely outside the USA sphere, theres a lot of utility in holding some cash money in Crypto even as a staging point for payments.
>You might want to make it clearer that these are quotes by prepending '>'s. At least to me, this wasn't clear at first.

That's actually exactly the reaction I was going for.
except Zume didn't make pizza's in trucks - they just heated them in trucks from a parbaked state, like digiorno
Oh, a nature reserve...
Never mind the 200,000 people that had to be relocated...

It doesn't matter how we perceive as nature coping with this disaster.
The fact that it shouldn't have happened, the fact that there are still other reactors in operation of the same type, the fact that billions of tax payer dollars went into preventing more severe consequences should be a warning sign that this madness we call nuclear power needs to stop.

What's one thing the engineers of Fukushima and Chernobyl had in common: They all thought the reactor would be safe.
Each RTP packet has a 32bit timestamp, and a 32 bit SSRC. Each "sender" in an RTP session must use the same SSRC, this is how synchronisation between audio and video streams from the same sender (lip-sync) is achieved.

The timestamps have a resolution defined by the clock rate communicated externally through a signalling channel.
> Green threads aren’t easier than async functions. The function colors don’t go away

Don't they? Using green threads I can happily call a blocking function in a synchronous context in one place, and run it with a goroutine in another place.

With async (particularly Rust's tokio), you need to pass around the "runtime" object in order to call an async function in a synchronous context.
Yep, it may be technically of interest, but devoid of any modicum of social nuance or sophistication.
The facetime video shows the faces of the people she's online with, but they will not be able to see her face while she's wearing the "spacial computer", unless it generates a fake avatar for them.
Garden variety no-analysis hot take demonstrating a lack of understanding of how platforms launch & grow and what trajectory this is going in.

Personally I think Apple missed a bit in the marketing by positioning this so heavily on average consumer use cases (3d pics of kids!) rather than professional use cases, where yes, having immersive shared environments can be helpful while avoiding any of the legitimate 'consume your life' issues with tech in our personal lives. "Boot up an office at home when you need it" is an extremely compelling use case and is compatible with the ideals of making computing (and work!) more humane.

Unfortunately the author doesn't seem to understand product positioning or have the vision to see possibilities enough to discuss the consumer v work nuance. And the isolation critique could have been interesting but it just defaulted to 'big company bad, tech bad.' Critics are essential, we deserve better ones.
Porn will never work. See the Dara Obriain skit for a hilarious explanation why.
One issue I have with "open source" projects that also offer a SaaS alternative, is that the open-source one is usually a different version than the SaaS one. They keep the best features for their paid solution and also often make maintaining the self-hosted one harder, so you have reasons to switch to their paid option. So the open-source one is often just part of the marketing funnel.
In my opinion, the other attempts happened because people think 3D is cool. Both as a concept and as a novel experience. And the other attempts failed because they went out and built a lot of stuff based on that coolness, without testing to see whether there was lasting value.

And we certainly see that repeating here. Magic Leap burned $3.5 billion. I'm not sure how many tens of billions Meta has spent on their vision of a Metaverse. But what's pretty clear is that so far there's very little long-term usage, very little value creation.

Might it work someday? Sure. But it's perfectly plausible that it will remain a practical failure until something like the holodeck or programmable matter becomes a reality. So it could be another 170 years before VR is a success.
The original question was why people don’t consider Clojure a lisp. By your yardstick, it is clearly a lisp.

As far as I can tell the only argument against it being is that it does not specifically use cons cells.
What makes you think they can’t manufacture it cheaper?

I see this price as a way of earning a healthy profit off early adopters and allowing them time to get third party apps developed before they announce a Vision (non pro) for $1000-2000 that flys off the shelves
What about bridging broadcast media to IP or vice versa?

One of the advantages of MPEG-TS is that it’s dead simple to map it to RTP or even plain UDP and back even with packet loss and data errors.
Doesn’t seem like they are suggesting that apple can do no wrong. Just pointing out that this is similar to other major Apple announcements. I found their contribution interesting, I’m not sure why you feel the need to be hostile about it.
Most tax laws don't make such a distinction. Whether you're receiving cash, or some other asset you're taxed on that as income.
Customers of web host Epik think company sale is ploy to avoid paying them back
LOL, someone told me in an interview that they are a C++ expert. I asked them if that refers to their company, or the wider community, or the C++ Committee members or the C++ compiler frontend maintainers.

It should be a science. It should be closer to core math. And yet it often feels closer to performance arts w.r.t. the individual's level.
I don’t know about the receivers in phones but my understanding of gps is that it’s actually very slow to initialise if you don’t already have a rough idea of where you are. Roughly, I think you try to guess where you are and do some dsp work that will successfully separate signal from noise if you guessed correctly. You do this first for the ‘coarse navigation signal’ and again for the fine one. I think there are ways to improve it, eg testing multiple locations in parallel but I don’t know how much phones do those vs having good guesses (nearby cell towers, Wi-Fi, flights in your calendar can all be relevant signals to start with good guesses).
I wonder how much they could have saved removing that front-facing screen. Bet you any money it's gone next revision, replaced by some LED that signals what you're looking at.
> * Ask the model to adopt a persona

This is bad advice. In my experience asking it to take on a persona can muddy the text that it writes as that persona. I have told it to be a biographer persona, for it to write a biography that then claims the person was a biographer.

It's best to treat it as a Language Model, and set it up to complete the text you've provided. All this chat model stuff is a waste of time that degrades text quality.
Of course, Apple have had some bombs. And it is instructive to look at them and assess where they went wrong versus the the times they were right.

But the commentary that happens every time they launch a new product is not very predictive of success.
I knew of a few options like that, but didn't realize it was so widespread. I wish Nixpkgs had a policy against writing modules that way. This creates a policy nightmare for companies that might use Nix. Alternatively, we need ACLs for the Nix store, or at least some store paths, at a minimum. :-\
> Here is the state department talking about how they are worried that Russians will acquire the US funded biolabs in Ukraine: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5005520/senator-rubio-questio...

That is not evidence that they are a front for weapons manufacturing and you know it. The bio labs fake news is just Russian propaganda.
RealAudio was released in April 1995. If you listened to RealAudio files (files, because most modems couldn't stream them real-time), the quality was terrible though.

I remember the very first MP3 I ever downloaded was a 3:50 song, about 4MB, and took about 2 hours to download. It actually took 2 days of wall-clock time, because my parents kept kicking me off the phone (thank goodness for ZMODEM). And then I found out that my computer (Mac Centris 660AV) was too slow to play it back real-time, so I set about decompressing it. And since it was a 40MB file and I didn't have 40MB space lying around (the whole hard disk was only 230MB), I set about backing up files to ZIP disk until I could. After about a week I finally had my audio file ready, and the experience was magical: near CD quality audio downloaded off the Internet.
Microsoft is having a huge M365 outage: https://twitter.com/MSFT365Status
You're using the term "OS" but you're not talking about OSes you're talking about kernels.

The OS is what comes with the computer or gets installed in the default setup if you're installing yourself. Most of it is userspace.

Distros like Arch & Gentoo allow you to build a custom OS which in doing so blurs the definition quite a lot, but ultimately when people say "macOS" that term includes quite a lot of userspace things. Bundled software is absolutely a core part of every popularly used definition of the word "OS".
FWIW, that's really not the usual macOS experience with external monitors, and you should try doing standard connectivity troubleshooting like replacing the cable, etc.

I've been using multiple monitors (more than 1 simultaneously) with Macs forever; the experience has gotten smoother with the Apple Silicon Macs, but it worked OK on Intel, and PowerPC before that, and the old classic Macs before that.
Probably the reason that took over is they are well funded and have marketing and/or salespeople. And they have emojis, file uploads, etc and they are just generally easier to use. Not that IRC is hard, but it is geeky enough.
Likely better on any workloads that are GPU heavy and fit in 24GB of vram.

Two data points from Apple:

a) M2 Ultra 24 cores, 128GB ram, 2TB storage = $5,200
b) M2 ultra 24 cores, 192GB ram, 4GB storage = $6,600

Likely 1/4th the size, 1/4th the power consumption, and 4x the ram bandwidth. Have you by chance played with any LLMs? Just saw a post that someone managed 5 tokens/sec with the llama 65B model.