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Most VR headsets have your eyes focused at infinity, so that’s usually not a problem.
What would they pivot to? I'd love to have a normal glasses style device with some cameras and sensors to give me Iron Man/Cyberpunk-style HUD for notifications and calls, etc.. I just... don't understand what they could pivot to.
Except when exporting files, where it still has weird size restrictions (somewhere around 10k pixels per side)
If you're covering your ass, you write something with cautious "could be interpreted as..." wording that distances yourself from it, not "we're doing a fking crime bro!"
Except battery life is 2 hours.
Ski goggles, mixed reality, less storage than a Nomad. I don't see what this brings to the table over other VR systems.
Incredible.

The biggest downside is that it looks like you can only use a single display from your Mac. If I could run 3+ screens from my mac, this would become a no-brainer.
No tether. Worse tracking than an index. Lame.
It won't. Sadly. Can't justify spending 3K on... family calls, tiresome multiscreen development environment, finally - games? Won't happen unfortunately.
If you can plug it in while using it 2 hours battery life might not be much of a problem.

Or if you can swap out the battery pack.

I'm more concerned with the sound design for flights. Those speakers aren't in your ears, they're probably audible to people beside you. (though if you're doing something without sound that's fine).
I like the goodreads rating system because they give you hints when you are reviewing a book and hover over the ratings.

I believe 3 stars is "I liked it", 4 is "very good" and 5 is "exceptional" or something similar.

Which is exactly what those ratings should mean for everything.
The SEC has done nothing in good faith with regards to crypto in the last 8 years.
Not for a while, but this is v1. When they’re cheaper, smaller and lighter who knows
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i agree, looks neat, but i wouldn't get one. seems like a product in search of a market. AR/VR is just to immature of a market ("too early") for an apple-sized company, and i think this one will be a pretty big flop in the near-future.
I already hate those people who think they must walk around in the streets wearing these AR masks.
_Gargoyles represent the embarrassing side of the Central Intelligence Corporation. Instead of using laptops, they wear their computers on their bodies, broken up into separate modules that hang on the waist, on the back, on the headset. They serve as human surveillance devices, recording everything that happens around them. Nothing looks stupider; these getups are the modern-day equivalent of the slide-rule scabbard or the calculator pouch on the belt, marking the user as belonging to a class that is at once above and far below human society. They are a boon to Hiro because they embody the worst stereotype of the CIC stringer. They draw all the attention. The payoff for this self-imposed ostracism is that you can be in the Metaverse all the time, and gather intelligence all the time_

from Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson
I still wonder what the TAM for these kinds of headsets is, even if they are Apple quality. Nausea and dork factor might limit to a fairly small clientele.
People go work at Starbucks with more expensive laptops.
Sounds like a great use for SharePlay! (:
People always suggest this ("if you like it better in Europe, why don't you move there!"), and it's such a facetious argument.

1. All my friends/family/professional networks are based in the US. Do I need to convince all of them to move with me to the Netherlands?

2. I would need to uproot my children from their schooling and friends and move them to a foreign country.

3. I would have to get a job in NL--perhaps doable for me, but what if you don't have in-demand tech skills and don't already speak Dutch?

4. I would have to work in NL for five continuous years before being eligible for permanent residency.

These hurdles are indeed not totally insurmountable for some people, but to pretend like it's a viable option for anyone who wants to live in more functional cities is silly. Why can't we just try to make our cities better? Look around at which cities in the world are working better, and learn from them!
A high end VR/XR display like Varjo does feel like a new ux paradigm if the device has low latency and high resolution and good software. Given how long Apple has been at this I would bet they’ve come up with something that is of expected quality.

Some of the stuff on display felt gimmicky, but I would imagine as bare minimum there are lot of people who are happy to have a private huge 4k screen they can move anywhere.
I would buy one if it scanned the environment and augmented it with realtime information. Like "this person is trying to scam you". "This product is cheaper online, order it it?" "I listened to your meeting, would you mind i propose a solution?". "Your current pattern of behaviour indicates x, might i propose you do x to prevent any further complications".
This is the weird thing, they nowhere said this. Everyone expected they announce some limited for-development scheme like Google with Lens back then, but this is a full product launch.
What about the weight? It is crucial, it can easily eliminate all positive sides of the device. 12 cameras, 5 sensors, 2 CPUs, battery and the front screen - looks like a heavy device.
"The kids are playing, better record a spacial moment" was one of the most dystopic things I've seen in a long time. Same with the ad at the end, with the father wearing it around his kids.
I feel like the interface demands strapping something this futuristic over your head is just... wrong. Perhaps a few years of refining the tech can lead to something that feels more natural
just a point on my comment yesterday on Metas trailer[0]. I wrote:

> I think [Meta] missed the mark with that trailer.
They promote it like it’s a skateboard: cool tricks, fast paced, hip and happy. I don’t think that’s why you want a VR headset at all, it’s actually the opposite: immersion, sinking into a another world, it’s concious dreaming. The D&D pitch could be perfect. I’d love to play a VR/AR d&d game. But in the video, the first thing he does is take off the headset and smile? It makes no sense. He should be totally enraptured, not happy to take it off.

Compare this to Apples trailer. The guy sits down, with the headset on and a bowl of popcorn, enlarges the screen, ready to delve in. Sitting in an airplane, but just have it all meld away. A guy playing ball with his kid, while wearing the headset.

I can't afford it at all but Apple made me want the product just for a bit.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36152725
Maybe, to the extent that people care enough about it to bug their android-owning contacts about it. I don't think that will be a very large number of users, especially since this is pretty trivial compared to the features you lose in iMessage group chats by adding SMS contacts.
What Does It Mean to Be Human? Ape-Sized Brain Relative Shakes Up Theories
No Paywall: https://archive.is/VYmsz

Interesting. Or maybe humans buried them and made the drawings? Doesn't seem like they have ruled that out but are still in the process of dating the activities.
It’s effectively a nonstarter. $3499 USD prices this way beyond the grasp of everyone but a small minority of enthusiasts and professionals.

And considering Apple isn’t really known for dropping product prices as the years go by, all this really does is tell us that the tech just isn’t ready for mass production yet.

I’m considering this, like Google Glass, to be a neat proof-of-concept.
"Exterior iteration. Iteration used to be by stack / non-escaping coroutines, which we also called "interior" iteration, as opposed to "exterior" iteration by pointer-like things that live in variables you advance. Such coroutines are now finally supported by LLVM (they weren't at the time) and are actually a fairly old and reliable mechanism for a linking-friendly, not-having-to-inline-tons-of-library-code abstraction for iteration. They're in, like, BLISS and Modula-2 and such. Really normal thing to have, early Rust had them, and they got ripped out for a bunch of reasons that, again, mostly just form "an argument I lost" rather than anything I disagree with today. I wish Rust still had them. Maybe someday it will!"

I remember that one. The change was shortly after I started fooling with Rust and was major. Major as in it broke all the code that I'd written to that point.

"Async/await. I wanted a standard green-thread runtime with growable stacks -- essentially just "coroutines that escape, when you need them too"."

I remember that one, too; it was one of the things that drew me to the language---I was imagining something more like Pony (https://www.ponylang.io/).

"The Rust I Wanted probably had no future, or at least not one anywhere near as good as The Rust We Got."

Almost certainly true. But The Rust We Got is A Better C++, which was never appealing to me because I never liked C++ anyway.
Could have been that it'll be out next year too
What we need less of is dichotomic views on complex issues.
Looks great, but base RAM is still only 8GB which (incredibly) is barely enough to browse the internet these days.

Why does it cost $400 to add another 16GB of RAM when the chips themselves cost $50 on Best Buy? Is it that much more expensive to make the RAM small enough to fit in the Air?
It is 7x the price of Quest 3, which to me means very different product vision, Ferrari vs Nissan different.
If you watched the video they said that existing peripherals will work too, including game controllers, keyboards, touchpads, etc.

It’s a battery with magnetic attachment for power. I wonder how hard they’ll push having multiple batteries to change them out. Looks like a sleek large bar of soap type battery (ie. all one unit), to slip into a pocket. It looks like a nice way to implement external batteries.
Meta can still create the Metaverse for the device.
The weird price fixation and doomerism here is weird. People said the AirPods were overpriced; half my uni has one. People said the AirPods Max were overpriced, and I see it all the time in co-work spaces and libraries. People said the M1 Pros were overpriced; they're literally everywhere, used by almost all of the professionals I know. People said the Pro Display XDR is excessively overpriced; more than a few consumers I know bought it. $3500 is high but considering it is a phone, laptop and massive display bundled into I'm pretty sure there's a more than sustainable market for it.

That aside, I'm curious whether it will be more like the mac or more like the iPhone. Will we be able to "sideload", i.e. install things without papa apple's approval? Can we use a web engine that's not WebKit? Things like that will make the difference for me, not the price.
It's about 120x the resolution of an Apple Watch. The displays themselves -- by far the most critical, make or break element of such a device -- are multiple generations beyond anything else.

Honestly perplexed why this has seen multiple downvotes. The device features 23 million pixels, or 3x 4K screens. That's 3X the Sony VR2. Over 2X the Vive Pro 2. And of course it's 120x the resolution of an Apple Watch Series 7. The angular resolution approaches the limits of the human eye.
Sony has the patent for the contact lens.
I’d buy a nice curved monitor for $1k, save $2.5k and enjoy not having a ski mask hanging off my face for 8 hours a day.
that short URL goes to aisearch.vip
Meta has a social network, but they don't really have an electronic ecosystem connecting them. Mac has a social network (anyone with an iPhone arguable) and an operating system. This might give them the edge needed in integration to do well.

Additionally, apple fan boys will pay a few grand for a high end device. So the whole "glasshole" issue from Google will be less of a thing. It's easier to see where they are coming from here is what I'm saying.

I think the nay sayers sure have reasonable nays to say, but I can see how it'll be popular to Apple's core "creative pro with pro level pocket change." Growing beyond that is definitely anyones guess and needs a "VisionLite"
Anyone else look at the motherboard & think, wow, heck yeah? It was barren. Flat, hugely unpopulated, painted black.

Seeing such a stark & severely empty slab of pcb is something I've been looking forward to. With more and more on chip, we don't need all this extra componentry all over our systems.

PCB might well be cheaper than cables.. but I can perhaps envision MCIO (Mini Cool-Edge IO)/SFF-TA-1002 taking over some day, disaggregating peripheral cards off the motherboard.
> The products do come at a bit of a premium, but, in my experience, it's well earned and is a premium experience as well.

As a long time Linux and macOS user, I don't agree. Even though macOS is more polished than your average Linux desktop environment, it's really very hard to ignore the unjustified markup. Nowadays I can buy a miniPC with a Ryzen5 and 32GB of RAM for around 400€, but the cheapest Mac mini nowadays sells for over 700€ and comes with 8GB of RAM and an absurd 256GB SSD. Moreover, a Mac mini tops up at 24GB of RAM, and for that you need to pay an additional 460€ for your weak 256GB HD box.
They've absolutely blown Meta out of the water on their value proposition.

They've started with: here's how you would use this device to round off all the rough edges of work / travel / productivity etc.

Whereas Meta: why don't you try to replicate all the most meaningful human interactions here with Mark.

On price: it's a lot, but as they say toward the end: relative to a home entertainment system with a powerful screen + surround sound, it's less ridiculous, plus it's portable.

My prediction: people who have the money to spare will buy it in very good numbers. In fact, I don't think they'll be able to meet demand. If you're already the kind of person who takes flights a lot for work, and who would consider upgrading to the latest Macbook Pro, it will be appealing.
Yeah, with them touting watching movies and only having "up to 2 hours" of battery, that's going to severely limit the movies you can watch. "Everything, Everywhere, All At Once", which they showed someone watching, is 2.2hrs.
I like the Reiser story.

It's one of the higher profile crimes that's not really related to the technology at all. This is simply about a dude who murdered his wife. But he also happened to be a brilliant programmer writing one of the more advanced filesystems of its time.

Then you get into all of the details. All the steps he took in hiding it. All of the stuff with Russian brides, sex, drugs, and presumably rock and roll.

And how they arrested, tried, and convicted Reiser of the murder without even having direct evidence a murder took place. It's one of my go to examples when people start harping about "circumstantial evidence". Because people often use that term when they want to mean "weak" or "specious". Circumstantial evidence is evidence pertaining to the circumstances of the situation.

Yes, it's a bit circular, but you can't really avoid it as it's literally what it says on the tin. Anything that isn't direct evidence is by definition, circumstantial. And direct evidence is a short list. And often worse than circumstantial evidence. Eyewitness testimony is a form of direct evidence. It is often not that strong because it relies on a person's memory and their senses. Both of which are extremely fallible.

A dead body is direct evidence someone has died. Someone being missing for over a month is circumstantial evidence that they are dead. Reiser insisted that Nina had run off and was in hiding. No one could find her or prove she was dead. He had a vehicle that was bleached down with a missing seat and a bunch of books on "How to get away with murder".

Everything was based on circumstantial evidence.

All of that was what led to his eventual arrest and conviction. He pled down the charges in exchange for showing authorities where the body was.
Not GP, but I don't care if a random person does it. I care when someone who is, ostensibly, intending to interact with me does it. You can't actually tell whether they're engaging with you fully or not, like if I were conversing with someone (in person) and started typing this comment at the same time.
"Reliving the memories closest to your heart -- that you apparently recorded with this thing over your face."

Seriously though: if this takes off I can see specially designed video capture devices/cameras for recording events like weddings (and other significant life events) meant for consumption on an Apple Vision Pro (and captured in higher quality than the cameras and lenses in the Apple Vision Pro).
What's different about it compared to Occulus or Samsung Gear or any other existing attempts at this?

Virtual movie theaters and virtual monitors haven't really been compelling use cases for putting an ugly sweat box on your face so far. What about slapping an Apple logo on it and pricing it even further out of reach changes that in your mind?
I thought it used the Apple keyboard? Or you could use your Mac with it.
That was for parties to save face after investing in Greece. They just wanted their money back without having to recognize the investments were not good quality, as stated. Luckily, all the stereotypes about the lazy south were handy.
I think the price was expected, what was disappointing (at least to me) was "available early next year."
You’ll still have all the stuff in your bedroom-office
>might suggest lower-tier versions coming in some future?

First it has to not bomb.
It’s very expensive but this product is offering a lot more than the $500 headsets
This really blows whatever it was that Zuck and Meta were doing out of the water and into outer space! This is light-years more game-changing than the metaverse and old VR. Only drawback is the price, but I'm sure a non-pro will be released at a cheaper price point.
Excited for the journal app! I was always uncomfortable trusting any of the existing apps and inevitably censor or give up writing my thoughts.

I’ve even tried building several (4(!)) journaling apps in the past and it’s still an unsolved problem for me. Right now i use a mix of obsidian and a self built journal app but that obviously has some drawbacks on its own.

Microjournaling, photo context and able to share (along with local e2e) are on top of my list. Looks like it solves many of it.
I find the eye display to be quite creepy.
The average US background radiation dose ranges from 1.5-3.5mSv/yr, or 0.25-0.6uSv/hr. This guy went into the exclusion zone and took various measurements [1] and outside of hotspots, the radiation level there seems to be just at or above the average US background radiation level.

Now I'm sure if you go digging in the Red Forest like the Russians did at the start of the war you're going to have a bad time, but the exclusion zone has settled down significantly. Most of the highly radioactive isotopes have by definition a very short half-life.

Are you confident there are fewer microbes?

[1] http://www.chernobylgallery.com/chernobyl-disaster/radiation...
As a glasses wearer I was wondering how this works. They mentioned extra lenses that I would have to install into the device. But why isn't it possible to do this all in software?
Incredible the amount of new tech that goes into this device. Still seems pretty niche and I’m skeptical about how good the controls will be.
The best example I've seen to contest that LLM's are "AI" is to make it print the total number of line's it's response will be, essentially add

"First answer with the total number of lines your total message will be, including the line with this number"

For example, GPT4 said "12" for this prompt: "First answer with the total number of lines your total message will be, including the line with this number

Make a program in Cpp that sums all prime numbers from 1 to 100"

LLM's cannot "think", they can only make sequential predictions based on their previous answers - so they cannot formulate a response and then modify that response on-the-fly
I mean 2d as in "designed for a 2 dimensional monitor". Everything they demo'd was a 3d game, projected onto a 2d surface, projected into a 3d virtual space.
For some stupid reason I always start the chats with a greeting. Kind of funny when it does a dad joke and also explains what Hello means just because I forgot a comma.
Were they the people toward the end they had said were rendered?
All day use if it's plugged in, as in using an AC adapter.
The general public assumes AGI when they hear AI and that’s a problem worth fighting against.
iirc, he said something like "when plugged in you can use it all day, and on battery you get two hours"
> 3500 is way too much when trying to introduce a new platform.

"No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame." :)

* https://slashdot.org/story/01/10/23/1816257/apple-releases-i...

The price is not low, but note the "Pro" in the name. I think that the first two versions will be high-end, and in the third generation they will release a Pro and non-Pro variant.

It took until the third-gen iPhone 3G for that product to really hit its stride. Took a few revs for the iWatch as well (IIRC).
iGargoyle
It's just disappointing when we know they can easily afford to go Fairchild and hit $2k to help commoditize it a little
Nobody is "sexualizing your children" by showing them that gay people exist and that gasp they sometimes have feelings for one another. How scandalous.

> It’s gotten to the point where I was worried the Mario movie might have sex/gender propaganda in it. Luckily it was just a kids movie.
There are few “just kids movies” these days. Puss in boots was the last one previously.

You didn't seem to have a problem with Mario's entire mission in the entire series to save his female love interest. Or the wedding references throughout the movie (you know, the ultimate culmination of a couple). Or the fact that Puss and Kitty got together at the end of the most recent Puss in Boots. Or the literally millions of other expressions of straight relationships in media day in and out.

But the second two men dare even hold hands? RED ALERT SEXUALIZING MY CHILDREN.

Go clutch your pearls elsewhere with this bullshit argument.
Why would that be morally reprehensible?

Is it not as "morally reprehensible" that I have to restrict my use of the internet now in order to avoid having my works used in that way? That reduces the amount of information available to everybody, after all.
Reminds me of that black mirror episode: The Entire History of You
https://nypost.com/2022/04/09/russian-troops-dug-trenches-in...
For the FaceTime calling to make sense, you have to be the only one actually using this product. If everyone in the call is wearing this, you're basically talking with avatars..
Honestly I think they’ll sell a ton to businesses and wealthy people looking to get into the new tech. The high price should raise the stock value if anything.
The only feature I want in an AR headset is for it to tell me the name of the person I'm talking to. I always forget. But I know the facial recognition database is a huge privacy liability, so it will never happen. As a result, I'm also underwhelmed.

I suppose this is good for those people you see walking around texting as they wander into traffic. They might be able to like some Instagram posts AND look both ways before crossing the street. A $3500 headset is cheaper than a $100k spine replacement or whatever. (I just ... stop if I need to text someone while I'm out walking, and do my Internet shitposting when I'm not out and about. But I guess that's only me.)
The original iPhone was also a bit of a waste of money so that doesn't really disprove their point.
The first thing that came to mind when I saw that cable was professor Farnsworth saying "its a suppository!"

Obgviously it doesn't plug in...down there...but it kinda looks like it in the ads