skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
This "unlimited monitor space" is a complete non-selling point for me.

Being a wealthy software engineer, my monitor space is not bottlenecked by my budget or desk space, but by my literal neck. Constantly rotating my head back and forth from one monitor to another is, quite literally, a pain.

For me the sweet spot is a single curved monitor right in front of me. If I need more "desktop space" I add another Space with Mission Control. And with keyboard shortcuts I can move between Spaces nearly as fast as I can rotate my head around.

So what am I going to do with a VR headset if I ever got one? Put the active app straight in front of me just like I do with my normal monitor. I'm not going to put my terminal at some odd angle 25° above my head and crane my head back when I want to run a command in it. I won't put the Weather app 90° to my right, obscuring what is currently a nice picture window looking out on my yard.

For me, VR needs that "killer app" to justify the high pricing and inconvenience of use, and I just don't see one yet. I don't expect one any time soon either; if VR was going to get a killer app, it would have shown up by now.
They'll do free replacements if it's a known defect, and especially if it's widely experienced. Even Nintendo does that if they sniff a potential class action and want to avoid it.
Yarp, I do the same. It's rudimentary but works fine and the code is clean enough if you pick a couple conventions (starting "private" variables with an underscore for example) and stick with them.
> Degrowth is death

There are currently about 8 billion of us. At some point in the past there were 4 billion of us (Bard tells me the population reached 4Billion on April 11, 1974). We're we somehow worse off when there were 1/2 as many of us on earth? Would we somehow be worse off if we slowly (like over the course of 100 years) returned back to that number? I fail to see how it would be problematic. Somehow we survived and got what we needed to get done in 1974 with only 4B people. If we were to settle back down to that number and stabilize there why would that be a problem? Or, how about stabilizing at 6B?
Now that Apple supports it, it'll become useful and popular.
Uber was pretty spotty in the UK for a few hours today across multiple devices
Discord/Slack replaced IRC because IRC ran over a set of ports which could (and would) be blocked by almost every corporate firewall. I still remember the day that my friendly Systems Administrator left and the new guy nuked our IRC access :(
TIL that `annecdata` (properly `anecdata`, I think) is a word. Nice!.
> Slashdot, PHPBB and later on Reddit offered synchronous, low-latency, single-point-of-truth updates to thread/post order.

...and reputation/karma, avatars, post counts, moderation, search, categories, emojis, anonymity (email address not exposed), notifications...
Somehow people are missing the obvious: Answers that say "Source: ChatGPT" or similar. I have seen plenty of those, and of course they are hot garbage and get downvoted
All of the MS subscription stuff seems to be slow today: https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/microsoft-outlook-...
Probably a v2 feature that isn’t ready yet. But I’d be surprised if they weren’t working on it after the widget stuff on Mac desktop.
What if we took down _every_ website for our product announcements??

- some Apple PM, probably
1. Airpod pros have spatial audio

2. Their presentation showed someone using it with airpods on a plane

https://twitter.com/techAU/status/1665790510093697024
"'Computing' is a trademarked word owned by Apple Computer Inc, Cuptertino California"
Am I misunderstanding "one-word" here? So far as I can see there's nothing wrong with the pronoun use in these, all of which have more-than-one-word antecedents:

"The last-but-one president of the United States met today with his former press secretary."

"My favourite blues singer stubbed her toe."

"That wretched web browser I hate is updating itself again."
Telegram? In my experience, European countries seem to use it alot
AFAIK Steam doesn't require developers to use their DRM and there are absolutely games that you can purchase through Steam and launch independently with just the exe.
Jared Kushner wasn’t in the government when he raised money for an investment fund.

How is that corruption?
Maybe it adds another step to the memory mountain? Folks who use these kinds of workstations might think of in-package RAM as just the next level of cache, if someone goes ahead and makes a card with comparatively slower memory card slots.
It's possible to be fascist without being racist. Both are bad.
Honestly how is that different from anything else? If you get a large enough group of people together they turn into cliques. It is human nature.
A Dyson Sphere for your attention.
How many simultaneous 4K input video steams can that HP handle (input and encoding)?
BS and travesty generation are well attested.
Yes, but that also means that a statement like "nobody gets a PhD" is absolutely untrue.
Or maybe never? This EV-mania seems to me is a political phenomenon not a technological product genuinely born to improve the quality of life of consumers.

All the tech-bros have kept saying 'have you driven one?' . Once you actually do it , well that's 99.9% the same experience felt when you first drove your dad banged up Ford.
Can you download zoomed-out maps of the flight you're on? I always like to try to put the phone up against the window to see where you actually are (the maps on airplanes IFE are comically out of scale and hard to read with a 4inch poorly rotating airplane icon overlaid on them)
HN timeouts only applied while logged in with me
Somebody please correct why 4090 looks so close to H100, it looks off.
The beautiful part is that the headset makes any desk (at my apartment, when visiting parents, in the office, etc.) my desk, which is exactly the same every time no matter where I am. Without bajillion cables and with instantaneous setup time. And would allow me to not worry about the physical constraints of the surface and take up no actual physical space on the desk.
I'll gladly play Apple processor prices for an Apple processor, but I'm not going to pay Apple PC prices for an Apple PC when all I really want is the CPU.
After I read your comment, I googled.

No one official announced anything. Instead an "insider" claims this. Among the claims, is that aliens are working with governements, and provided key tech, such as fiber optics, and silicon chips.

Yeah. OK.

I can literay, over a century, trace all the key scientific discoveries, how they happened, for transistors, ICs, etc. There was no help.

And shining light through glass isn't that fancy of a tech.

These articles piss me off. They belittle the capabilities of humans, for profit.
TBF, there's an equal amount of "I haven't touched the product, nor even read reviews of people handling it in their hands, but I'm totally gonna buy this only based on the marketing material"

I kinda loved how Accidental Tech Podcast's host joke about not having even heard of the product yet but they'll probably buy it for personal use either way.

The pendulum has fully swinged the other way for the a sizeable chunk of people I think.
This is exactly what I think is going on as well.
Is there a specific reason why this has to be a OS update thing? I know that it's likely that they don't update the emoji font outside major OS updates so people have an extra reason to update.
Yet all of their other marketing is convoluted non sense. It just shows them being more tactical with marketing to knock some competition down a notch.
I can also vouch that what the author is saying is true. I've started publishing my notes, and I found that after three weeks none of them were indexed (and yes I submit a sitemap through google webmaster tools). I have since started using the URL inspector tool and adding them one by one. That does work.
I wonder if on-die RAM is less susceptible to memory errors?

I suspect that it is. Feels like less can go wrong. You have physically shorter interconnects, and the RAM is perhaps more of a known quantity relative to $SOME_RANDOM_MANUFACTURERS_DIMMS. But that is only a guess.

However, I don't know if that's true. I guess it's not necessarily more resistant to random cosmic rays or whatever.
For productivity, the M2 MBA is great. But for movie-watching, this is no comparison. I'm not a member of "the jet-setting class", but I completely agree that this is going to be de rigueur for those folks. I wouldn't be surprised if first class cabins came with free rentals in the near future.
Regarding clock, ideally you'd want to be able to genlock them.

The goal is to ensure that all input sourced send their video frames at the exact same point in time, and that each audio device also samples at the exact same points in time.

In the past that was even more important, as you'd want to make sure the scanline of CRTs in the studio and of the camera were perfectly synced.
I’ve had similar experiences with friends and Beat Saber, but how many of those 30 friends enjoyed the experience enough to get VR themselves? If your experience is like mine? Zero.

It is a cool novelty. Cool experiences while using it but the least popular gaming device in the house. Even my kids’ low end Atom-based laptops get more gaming use for chess.com and Minecraft.
That can be true, but you see the same pattern with bad ideas. Look at perpetual motion machines. People keep trying to invent them, but that doesn't prove they'll eventually succeed.

We could also consider jetpacks and flying cars and food pills. People have been inventing and re-inventing them for years. I'm sure if I looked I could find new generations of people taking another swing at it who haven't really reckoned with why all the previous waves failed.
some people obviously did pay $500+ for headphones. We don’t know how many sets has Apple actually sold…
Someone in another area could read content that is illegal to them. That's their responsibility, not mine

Unless you serve people from the EU or sell things to US customers like bitcoin.
Bro, if you don't file those fcking papers I told you to file last week "we are operating as a fking unlicensed securities exchange in the USA bro", and that would really suck
You should be able to use the headset alone as a "ipad pro" experience, computing power.

And you should be able to have your separate computer, with the lid closed, and it still be running, projecting its desktop inside the headset.

(based upon today's videos)
This is good for gamers actually not for the obvious one (hand tracking ) but actually the ability to immediately change the isolation. The biggest problem I have with doing stuff in VR is that I multitask in certain games and if you make it so I can switch to something else momentarily then that’s a big win. I agree with you though that why they haven’t been much more aggressive with gaming at wwdc unless at launch or nearer they wanted to announce then but that would be ridiculous since gamers preorder everything and announcing a game would push more gamers to that.
I've been using hive for 5 years now. Solid tech, good people, actually decentralized. Communities (like subreddits) for niche interests. Dozens of front-ends with different focus and style.
I've only used the android mobile client but it's pretty slick.

https://ecency.com/
https://hive.io
As others have said, this article is written as if GitHub's Copilot + VSCode integration doesn't exist, and I think the author should get that going before concluding, "AI Does Not Help Programmers."

It saves me a decent amount of rote implementation. I read up on the APIs, I understand the pattern I'm supposed to implement, but then Copilot actually does it for me. It's not a world-changer, but it does save time, it does "help".

And not for nothing, at least once I've pasted a script into GPT4 and asked "What's wrong here?" and it correctly identified I was using `[` instead of `[[` for a Bash conditional. This was code that had been working for years (AWS must have updated what version of Bash it was running CodeDeploy through), I never would have thought to check something like that. Realistically saved me an entire day hunting that down.
All the most enjoyable stuff I've done in VR has involved, at a minimum, lots of arm movement, and typically also leg movement as well. Think Beat Saber, or Half-Life: Alyx. I don't really see this working in a seated plane environment.
You don't need interfaces for dependency injection, you can inject classes directly. I see interfaces more for separation of concerns (with domain-driven design pushed from all parts in the .NET world at the moment...), but that's not an obligation.
That's just marketing nonsense. You get 23MP if you combine both displays in the headset. Well guess what, they show the same picture, so the actual resolution is half that. And out of that only the pixels in the center are going to be sharp enough to be usable (notice that none of the demos ever extended the picture all the way to the edge).
absolutely, I miss HNN, that used to be my morning routine. then at some point HNN turned into a dumping ground for re-runs and true-crime drama.
Okay since you just stepped out of the time machine, I can get you up to speed. A global viral pandemic happened, America elected a Black president, and Taylor Swift replaced Britney Spears as the most popular female pop star. Also, Apple stopped putting "i" before every product name and that whole thing isn't cool anymore.
The tech on this thing is so cool and so useless! People will buy them, try them out, and then a month later realize they didn't actually use it at all and return them to the store.
TBF this is common in any mature language. In fact one reason I don't like Go is that it was explicitly designed to have "One True Way" to do anything and if you don't like that choice, too bad. I know why that approach was taken, but it doesn't work for me.
"23 million pixels across two displays" = sqrt(23 million / 2) = 3391x3391 per eye assuming square panels.

That's less horizontal resolution than a 4K monitor (3840x2160) stretched across your entire field of view.
Can you explain to the rest of us what about JPEG XL applies to that use case? If you asked me to store lossless, 16-bit (per channel, or monochrome, I am assuming) images I would suggest TIFF.
I used to spend a lot of time in Pavlov. Was playing PavZ pretty much every day. Then one day I stopped, and haven’t really been back. There’s definitely a lot of activation energy that goes into “getting into VR” and once you’re out, you don’t really want to put in the effort to get back in. HL Alyx was a big motivator for me, but I haven’t felt like that for other games yet.
I have a vive original and played about 200 hours of vr games. Haven’t taken it out of the box for years though because I don’t have the space for it anymore and just don’t really care about VR gaming that much.
> And transparency mode on modern headphones is a waste of time since you can just take them off.

Unless you want to continue listening to what's playing through the headphones. I enjoy listening to both the nature and quiet music when I go on walks.
The web, just like the real world isn’t static. Becoming and staying intellectually, emotionally and physically mobile may be the only long term strategy to avoid ending up in one or the other dystopia, sooner or later.

When rates of change were slower, you might only have to “move” once in your life, but with increasing rates of change in our human experience, staying nimble is arguably of ever increasing importance.
> I wonder why they didn't hold off to announce it when actually ready.

Apple has always pre-announced new product categories. No worries about Osborne-ing their own sales, time for developers to build before launch day, etc.
Cool and in those few generations I will absolutely buy that magical device. But we are discussing what's in front of us today.
I think that for the immediate future, AI will be more of a help to non-programmers who need to do simple programming tasks than to actual programmers.

I say this as a PM who is regularly using ChatGPT to prototype things and to write scripts to automate things in my side business.

Folks have been talking about no-code platform for as long as I can remember, but they've always been too minimally-featured to be useful, or they actually required significant programming knowledge. ChatGPT, in my experience, bridges the gap, at least for simple, standalone tools. I expect it will get better and better as a tool for non-developers to build simple things.
The particular issue is the assistant is not sloppiler then the person using it, and it is less sloppy than the other alternative, that is no code at all.

This is common thing we in people selling stuff. Engineers think a product has to be perfect, they never develop a perfect product and never sell anything. In the meantime some salesperson has made a billion of their imperfect crappy product.
mbgerring, I agree with you in almost the entirety of what you've said both here and in some of your responses.

There are a lot of false assertions made, often with no consequence for doing so, which is an ongoing problem; and worse a lot of these people actually believe what they say is true despite well researched facts showing to the contrary. Its disheartening that so many people are completely irrational when it comes to discourse on these things.

As for the lack of housing, to me its clearly not a money problem. Also, in other areas they do hotel vouchers instead of actually creating affordable housing; and while programs may limit it to no more than 30 days, there are loopholes which allow a revolving door between multiple hotels accepting vouchers. I would guess this is where most of the money is going, and this doesn't do the same thing as providing permanent housing first.

Additionally, the vouchers themselves are often traded, for drugs and other things and the areas where these are accepted, quickly become crime-ridden because the dealers follow the vulnerable populations; its one of the reasons some areas refuse to add additional local transit resources. They simply don't want to deal with it; or they deal with it in a way that makes it someone elses problem (like what happened in Santa Ana).

Everyone seems to have an opinion on what needs to be done, but none that I've seen have actually followed through on what the rigorous studies have shown. There always seems to be some loophole, corruption, backroom deal, etc for business to capitalize on homeless services without actually improving the situation in any way while draining resources meant to help people get back on their feet.
>people just did not pay $500+ for headphones before the Maxes dropped

are you sure? why do you think this?
The SEC doesn't jail people. That's the DOJ that brings criminal charges, like with Sam Bankman-Fraud.
The same designers who are designing your web and app experience will also design your AR and VR experience.
With a resolution of slightly over 4k resolution per eye for the entire view, on top of lenses and warping when rendering it into the space, I just can't see how this is actually possible. It may be better than many previous solutions but they were all so far off in text clarity that's not saying much. Of course, they could just set the zoom way up on Safari/the UI and say "look, it's so clear!" and be technically correct.
Kotlin has a bunch of scope functions[0]. `a.also(f)` takes a function `f`, calls `f(a)`, and returns `a`.

[0]: https://kotlinlang.org/docs/scope-functions.html
Apple hasn't cared about gaming seriously for perhaps decades.
> One can guess as to why (...job market).

I guess the farm tractor killed way more jobs (from potato harvesters, cereal harvesters, ...) than AI would even in the most utopian ways. But that doesn't matter: Both tractors and AI would and did shift wealth from the working class to the owning class. So I don't get why the "above" would try to not give GPT-4 the training data that they currently own anyway...
> you’ve become basically unapproachable for anyone around you

Oh! you're not the captive audience of a strangers unwanted small talk then? That's been an undesirable part of traveling solo for a lot of people. The shoulder tap will still work fine if you need to get past somebody to stand up.
> I think it was swapping every now and then causing pauses.

What you're seeing is probably "context swapping", not swapping memory to disk. The model can't keep the entire history of its output in context at all times, so LLaMA periodically resets the context and re-prompts it with a portion of its recent output.

https://github.com/ggerganov/llama.cpp/blob/f4c55d3bd7e124b1...
The Vision Pro is arguably less useful than your XDR since the VP can't run macOS. :p
Yes, the presentation shows it used as a display for a Mac. Incidentally, you can also do this with the cheaper Quest Pro headset (or any headset in the Quest line, so $300-$1000 price range - but you don't get as many pixels). There are a few options for the software, VRDesktop (https://www.vrdesktop.net) being one.
I ran into Steve Naroff a couple of years ago and he said, "it's still amazing that we got Objective-C++ to work" ("we" being his team at NeXT and ours at Cygnus). I'm impressed Jobs went for it.

It's pretty great for the reasons you said.
Nobody really likes wearing ski goggles, especially for many hours. I can't begin to imagine how annoying it will be to wear something heavier. Hope it has some type of ventilation system!

Perhaps a HN opthamologist can chime in - what are the long term effects on vision likely to be from wearing/using a device like this for extended periods of time every day?
Apple's reality distortion field could be the secret sauce that gets people to overcome many of the issues you described, and to purchase a VR product even if they don't make any sense to use.
Maybe? Don't know. I have a very legacy email account at a past employer. Impossible to go through the inbox, endless spam, I only read it via search. But comparing volumes of that inbox and the spam folder, the spam filter is catching the vast majority of spam. One year I'll figure out a way to estimate the ratio of ham to spam, caught and uncaught, in a way compatible with my attention spam ;)
I don't know if this was related, but earlier today my personal internet dropped to 1mbps down for at least 30 minutes. Also had 40% packet loss using the cloudflare speed test on a wired connection. East coast, USA.
In the Twitter thread the sender says they exhausted all the support channels. And note they were a corporate customer of an expensive product, not some random guy.
The neural engine has severe limitations at the moment. I tried using it for BERT about a year ago and kept crashing its API because of "out of memory" issues. The theoretical TOPs you mention also don't necessarily translate into usable TOPs because of memory bandwidth and caches. This is why for example the comparison of the M1 Max with a RTX 3090 was completely off.
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Gatekeeping which widely-used new software counts as “technology” and which doesn’t seems like a strange hill to die on.
Apple partners with Unity to bring Unity apps to the new Vision Pro AR headset
I guess it was a bad day to try out my new internet provider...