skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Sounds like the Vision Pro addresses your main issues - it's fully wireless, albeit with the somewhat ridiculous cord hanging off and battery pack in your pocket. And you can walk around your house with (presumably) near perfect pass through view of the real world. And then the resolution - I think you could be wrong about that. It's surprisingly hard to compare, but the Vision Pro is going to get you pretty close to high enough resolution that it doesn't matter any more.

It's interesting though you seem to view the fact that it's close to impossible to move your monitors as a plus - that part sounds very weird to me.
Sure, but what if a normal C code needs more bandwidth?

Or if a GPU code needs more than 12-16GB of memory (normal cards) or 24GB (if you get a 4090)?

What I like about the apple approach is that low end laptops/desktops get 100GB/sec. Pay another $500 get 200GB/sec. Pay another $500 get 400GB/sec. Pay another $1000 get 800GB/sec and still fits in a small desktop. On the PC side with AMD/Intel you get the same memory bandwidth for the low, medium, and high end chips. Until you upgrade to a threadripper, which is a 280 watt chip, on an expensive motherboard, usually in a rather large PC case and makes the mac studio look cheap.
When the iPad came out I thought to myself "Who needs a big iPhone? also, god what a dumb name, 'iPad'. Apple really missed the mark on that one." Welp, I was wrong then. I don't personally see myself using this but that doesn't mean it is not going to be successful. I'll just wait and see.
> If you use an app like SkyBox you make sure the screen is outputting full 1080p detail. Nothing is blurry or messy at all. You can do the math if you don't believe me.

1080p detail? Are you aware this detail is spread all over your field of vision? ~18 pixels per degree is laughable quality. And let's not talk about the Screen Door Effect!

> The vast majority of content out there is only 1080p

What???

> And my AirPods Pro, with noise cancelling, together with the Quest's own spatial audio, absolutely destroy any regular speakers I've ever owned.

You probably haven't owned many speakers, then.

> I guess we have different experiences, but it sounds to me like your strap is possibly much too tight.

If you don't wear it tight, it's easy for it to move slightly and you lose the sweet spot of the lenses, which is very narrow, increasing blurriness even further.

I don't wear my glasses tightly, and they still leave a mark on my nose.
We've wanted virtual environments from moment that William T. Riker stepped onto the Holodeck. We've been dreaming of a cyberpunk reality since the first snow crash. It feels strange to blame Apple for this "vision" of computing.
> their analysis required excluding the Australia, Canada, and New Zealand. Once these countries were included in their analysis, their argument falls apart

Unsure on Oz and Canada. But New Zealand was excluded due to gaps in R&R's data at time of their first paper's publication. They "fully integrated the New Zealand data back to the early 1800s" as well as for "every major high debt episode for advanced countries since 1800" for their 2012 paper [1].

The effect size that Herndon et al found is "growth at high debt levels" being "a little more than half of the growth rate at the lowest levels." R&R's 2012 paper finds an even more-muted result: "2.4% for high debt versus 3.5% for below 90%."

[1] https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013...
The choice is clear - Ready Player One or Minority Report?
It's about perception. None of those screen inherently prevent anyone else from sharing your experience, or outright advertise escapism as a use case.

I'm saying the "Apple goggles" can so easily fall victim this perception because those qualities are so front-and-center with it.
They did but that mostly seemed silly to me. Multiple monitors was the main thing that jumped out as an actual good use case. They need to market all aspects of it but they’ve named it “pro” for a reason and I feel like there was a lot of focus out on productivity uses (conference calls, browsing, multiple displays, 3D Models).
This is good for Bitcoin. Few understand.
That model only works in an ocean without currents, or with exclusively favorable currents. The weaker claim of, "we can expend minimal energy by taking a very long time to get there," perhaps even wind energy, might work though. I think we'd have to answer that empirically.
Firefox containers are quite a bit more limited.

Profiles not only separate cookies but also extensions, bookmarks, history, and tab groups.

Firefox also has profiles, as does Chrome. Firefox does not provide a nice interface for them, and so a lot of people aren't aware of them. To see the Firefox profile interface go to about:profiles.
In general I'll take the urbanist and AV skeptic side, but here is a telling quote: "If you want to make things better, invest in transit and bike/ped infrastructure to reduce ALL car usage"

These are not exclusive. The opposite, really. AVs won't mind fewer lanes in order to accomodate protected cycling lanes. AVs should hurt vastly fewer pedestrians and cyclists. An all-AV world should be a paradise for cyclists. AV bus lines could surge capacity without being bound by driver availability and making drives do split shifts.
Well, you do you, but if I were using a headset like this as a laptop replacement I would put it and the keyboard in a backpack. You know, just like how I carry my laptop around today.
Extract the PS from the TS and send that over the network.
When cryptomining comes to town (effects on the local economy)
As someone whose entire social world opened up because of the internet, I find the overall attitude of the author to be highly questionable. It’s one thing to be wary of being forced to isolate or avoid contact, but it’s another thing entirely to suggest that solitude at work definitively equals an overarching loneliness.
Thanks for the info! I'm intrigued by the different interfaces for the same content. I'll definitely keep an eye on this when reddit dies in a couple weeks!
Call me crazy, but I still think VR is just going to be a small niche. It's not a question of who is making it, how much cheaper they can build it, or what PR machine is pushing it. It's just a bad form factor. They are going to keep on trying because strapping ads and trackers directly to people's heads is the big tech wet dream, but I don't think we are looking at the next smartphone by any means.
I'm just snowcloning "No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame" since the comment I'm replying to seems like an unintentional snowclone of exactly what GP comment was talking about.

Ignore me.
The presence tracking technology in Face ID iPhones uses infrared beams (not sure if it's the same as what's in the Vision Pro), and some people's eyes are in fact sensitive to this, resulting in eyestrain when used over a long period of time.

You can turn this feature off to get standard idle lock screen timeout behavior, and still continue to use Face ID; I don't know if there's a workaround on the Vision Pro)
Usenet didn't fail at all, it just went out of fashion after Google killed the usenet archive. Honestly, I think if we applied everything we've learned about http over the past thirty years and applied it to an updated nntp protocol then it would be quite formidable.

The biggest issue that never was never resolved was on one hand you have the people who don't want people controlling what they read and say - and on the other hand you have the jerks that want to abuse that. If you've ever logged into a darknet forum and someone has uploaded hundreds of autopsy photos anywhere they could upload photos except the "autopsy photos" area, then that is exactly what used to happen on Usenet. It's probably the same guy doing it. Though personally I think having to do the occasional bulk delete is worth preserving freedom of expression.
If this reduces the marginal spend on tax avoidance schemes, then it is a net win for the greater society IMO
I generally don’t have any problem doing this on Google maps on my domestic Australian flights, in fact I almost always do it - great to see what’s underneath me and just how fucking much nothing there is.
Although the Qantas map when I’m flying on a plane with IFE does a pretty good job as well
How does this compare to Seek?
> I'm really curious to know what the "feeling" is like to be in a room with someone wearing one of these.

Me too. I'm predicting "creeped out".
Span – Smart Panel that controls all your devices and appliances from your phone
Every blogger needs to fire off their hot takes today to maximize clicks.
It's deterministic. If you use the same seed or set temperature to 0, you get reproducible results.
Health marketplace for discounts on diagnostic testing
My friend and I were surprised at how expensive diagnostic tests are and they're not covered by insurance for younger age groups.

We are building a marketplace that gives people cash-back on health testing products like Inside Tracker, Viome etc.

Would love any feedback if this is useful at all.
You perfectly articulated my reaction to all of the complaints. It seems like people believe companies should aim for as close to zero profit margin as possible, as if margin is immoral waste akin to greed, and not fuel for for the business.
I was watching the WWDC today thinking something near but different... How long will we be dialing in to Cupertino Saucer? How is Apple going to maintain a liveness, keep this elegant home from feeling somewhat imprisoning? I feel like they're kind of trapped now.

I too am interested in how folks get picked. Most people seemed to present a wide range of features, which kind of makes me think there's actually a wider number of candidates they could draw from.
Maybe they're a Sith. But hey, the dark side is a pathway to abilities many consider... unnatural.
LNG is 20x the energy for a given volume than Lithium ion batteries. It's 50-60x as much energy for a given mass. The mass is the limiting factor for ocean transportation.
People laugh at this, but isn't this exactly how we got Javascript?
> whereas all the nay-sayers are just sitting comfortably in the boundaries of the world as they understand it, and passing judgement accordingly.

How would you expect progress to occur? Company releases a product users criticize it and make fun of it company/competitors either drop the idea or come up with an improved version. What's wrong about that? Why would anyone care about hurting a massive corporation's feelings? Let's not anthropomorphize them...

> just sitting comfortably in the boundaries of the world as they understand it,

Well it's pretty clear that Vision Pro is very expensive and has no clear use cases. And most criticism is almost entirely focused on these two aspects.

> I'll spend today thinking of ways it might surprise me for the better, rather than the ways in which it may fall short.

So instead of thinking of ways how something could be improved you'll just try to figure out how to make the best of what you have? Best approaches are perfectly viable and reasonable depending on the situation.
> Banks suck.

Banks in Singapore provide 5 minute inter-bank settlement. Banks in NZ provide multiple intra-day settlements seven days a week. Australia's NPP settles within one minute as a typical target.

Banks are perfectly capable of this. US banks may not be.
I don't think Apple predicts the future as much as it drives the future. Just my opinion.
Apple doesn't have PMs in the sense you're thinking of. This was a simply a bug.
>Alas, I don't think it's yet ready for primetime. Is it fixable in a week?

We are 4 devs working full time on it. In my estimate it should be pretty smooth in around 1 year. We should also have an old.reddit interface as well for people who hate the new interface.
Yeah, and you could argue that ARM and RISC-V Windows and Linux wouldn't be PCs, but I don't really see the value in using the terminology for such a dated use. It's not really useful anymore since none of the same software is compatible across different OSes anymore.

"Mac vs PC" was way after Windows software was already not compatible with IBM PCs, so by that point, the implication was just "PC == x86", and Apple was already transitioning to Intel as well. "PC" being tied to a specific Intel processor is confusing. It's all very bizarre and mostly marketing.
It seems like an incredibly isolating device, even if a bit less isolating than the others.
As someone who has >1000 hours in VR (and is also a game developer), the simple answer is that there really have been only maybe a dozen games. And lots of mostly identical alternatives.

Boneworks/HL:Alyx/Pavlov: Shooter, VRChat/RecRoom/etc: Social, Beat Saber/Harmonix somethingsomething: Rythm, The Room, Jet Island... Where each of those alternatives have lots of mechanical convergence, so it "feels" like playing the same game if you overlook the button mapping of the controllers.

The tech works perfectly fine, but there are so many caveats and limitations that the possible design space is quite limited, or there has been too much inbreeding. Plus, developing for VR is much more expensive as a baseline because of the increased limitations, so you end up with generally lower quality games than a traditional medium.

All in all, I would say that in a scale from "Pong" (1972) to "Outer Wilds" (2019) we are maybe just after "Wolfenstein 3D" (1992) in relation to the VR gaming landscape: Games are fun, but most of everything is really bad and played out of a lack of better options, or a clone of something actually cool.

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My point here is I don't entirely agree with you it's a novelty, I would say it's more of a variation that can become a staple with many people, but will never* be the main/only medium. Pizza, not bread&butter.

(And yes, that's half the definition of a novelty, but that's why I say I don't entirely agree with calling it such)

* Unless we invent the actual Matrix "full-body immersion with motor suspension" tech or something functionally equivalent (and I'm not even saying that's a good idea).
Seems outlandish ... a $3500 product can't obsolete a $299 one. It doesn't look like Apple has any intention of attacking the low end here.

I'd almost say that Apple is doing Meta a favour because they are doing a much better job at making the case for devices like the Quest Pro and Quest 3 than Meta seems to be able to do. A lot of people will turn to these when they find they want in on the hype but they can't afford the Apple version.
> I have not seen any mention of economical use except in third world countries.

This is peak HN, if there ever was such a thing; you do realize that the Third World (an erroneous use of the term that relates to nations that were aligned with the Soviet Union but used to denote underdeveloped nations) comprises the most of the Human population; and if figures are correct about System D [0], it is actually the 2nd largest economy in the World and growing due currency collapses and hyper-inflation being wrought around the World.

In recent literature on the informal economy, System D is the growing share of the world's economy which makes up the underground economy, which as of 2011 has a projected GDP of $10 trillion.The informal economy is usually considered as one part of a dual economy.

Seriously, this is the most typical yet horridly-informed view on this matter and gets tossed in the echo-chamber; it's like saying that the USD (or any fiat currency) is really useless because the FOREX market (the biggest Industry in the World only after Agriculture) negates its utility because people only seem to trade it.

I'll be the first to tell you that 99% of crypto is a scam but seriously just stick to something you actually understand before posting these inept diatribes.

0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_D
> I understand that you, as a Brit, are congenitally bound to hate Russia and to desire to stir the European pot but remember: there’s nukes in the mix this time. Should be glad that Russia isn’t in fact losing.

They aren’t losing so bad that they took close to 100k causalities to take a city that is 41 square kilometres.

They aren’t losing so bad that we have seen T54s in use by Russia.

Russia won’t ever use nukes in Ukraine and even if they do it won’t change the war in anyway except for increasing support for Ukraine and decreasing support for Russia

This is why Russian propaganda shouts about nukes and red lines but doesn’t actually do anything.

Much like how some people on here are doing the same nuclear doomerism all it is meant to do is increase fear in the west to actually ending this war.
Sucks when you're the last and greatest fool though.
https://soundcloud.com/ryan-flowers-916961339/dns-to-the-tun...
Everything serious in VR/AR is being done using either Unity or Unreal Engine.
I remember when the iPhone came out, and one kid in my high school got one cause his dad was a wealthy businessman. Everyone thought it was super cool but it was definitely not consumer-friendly at the time (No app store, default stocks app, expensive and carrier-locked)

I think this headset has potential, but we're definitely not there with the first generation.
I totally agree. You say you’ve been covering up some big project for 70 years? Okay, where are the results? Otherwise your just fronting, desperate to cover your ignorance for what you don’t understand and which challenges your authority.

This is the governing superstructure’s chance to step up. I hope it takes it
Completely agree with your points here. I personally see nearly zero times when I would use this given what I've seen so far. I imagined consuming content with the cheap Oculus Go would be cool, but mine has been gathering dust for years.

This Apple device seems like a moonshot. I am actually really glad for them to use some of their $100B+ of cash to take a shot at this product rather than other things that might be more sure-fire profit makers. I think if there is a killer app for AR/VR, we haven't seen it yet, and also, it'll be mind-blowing. But I think the chance of that happening anytime in the next 5 years is minimal. It's a low probability of something really awesome, so I'm rooting for it even though Apple is overall not my favorite company.
It does feel like they're well into the uncanny valley. We'll see how they fare against the ineffable "ick" factor.

Google Glass cost half as much and was in a much tighter form factor, but it failed because the general public perceived it as creepy and isolating.

If this product gets associated with people striving to wall themselves off from the world in their own personal dreamscape...well, I don't know. Maybe that sort of personality type will become a virtue in the zeitgeist. Maybe it already is.
> I'm going to be 100% annoyed conversing with someone who has one of these things on

I suspect that I won't be willing to interact with them.
So the hardware looks amazing.......

can we hook it to a PC so I can play some real VR games?!
They compare staking to mining. Cryptocurrency mining is a business activity that fulfills the last three criteria but mining on its own is not a security. The only confusion is whether the staked cryptocurrency counts as an investment of money.
I don't think spatial experiences are particularly new.

Quake was the first game I recall playing that was intensely spatial. So much so that after a couple of hours playing I had trouble readjusting to meatspace; the positional part of my brain was still carrying enough of the virtual world that i was easily disoriented. The same thing happened to me with Minecraft. Years later, I still have vivid spatial recall of some of the bases and mines I built.

You could certainly argue that VR controllers are an exciting step forward in spatial interaction. But things like the Wii and the Switch's (less capable) motion control mean they're only a step forward, not a leap. And that also makes clear that motion control and VR are separable concepts. I look forward to seeing the fancier controllers migrate to other platforms to see how that goes.

So I think what makes facehugger VR unique is stereoscopy. And stereoscopic 3D is a thing with a long history of faddish excitement followed by a total crash. You could argue that's not relevant here, but an awful lot of VR advocates make their cases in terms of 3D.
Exactly this. I know Apple didn't invent VR/AR. But they also didn't invent the phone. What they did do though is provide an amazing user experience for the vast majority of people.

I've been on the AR/VR hype train for a long time and have had many different headsets over the years. Apple Vision Pro seems like it puts all of them to shame. And if Apple can execute on this, no doubt, it'll become a household staple. And this is Gen 1. Price will come down. Apple has to get the experience right though. And so far it looks promising.
I'd like an .er address. That's Eritrean. Last time I looked it up, that country was a mess. No telling who'd profit from domain registration, and not worth figuring that out for what amounts to vanity plates. Not gonna risk sponsoring bad guys for a funny domain name.
They explicitly said in the keynote, that you can bring up the screen of your Mac as a virtual display. So it looks like you can use this to work with your Mac.
Strapping one of these on your face is undeniably quite nasty, and the video eyes just kind of make it creepier. And their shiny reps going on about how everyone can participate, meanwhile it's Apple only is really the icing.

I think though that the dream is for it to get smaller and more human adapted until you get all the benefits, with normalized cues that make it more social, perhaps more social than the now-ubiqitious smartphone and headphones. But that is a long ways away.

The other thing that I think is not emphasized enough is that this headset is really a two way interface for personal AI, where it could be very compelling. Apple prefers to sell it as an entertainment/work device, but with all those sensors and upcoming multi mode AIs, it would be a whole new category. I think Apple realizes others have taken the "AI" flame, but they know it's important, so instead for now emphasize machine learning, but this will eventually become more like the interface for AI assisted imagineering and self guided entertainment.
If you read the second paragraph, this is addressed. If you follow the links in the BBC article you'll find data on the wildlife. The only thing abnormal about population sizes in the area is that there are a larger number of wolves than compared to non-contaminated regions. But we also need to consider that due to the size of this area, that it in essence is akin to the largest nature preserve and has far fewer human visitors. Probably important to remember that humans are a big reason for the decrease in wolf populations in most regions.

Fwiw, I did mention that the animal lives are possibly lower quality and definitely shorter lived. So I'm not quite sure what you're rebutting from my comment. It appears that you're just rephrasing part of it but without any source and clear suppositions from a misunderstanding of the data in the first paragraph I wrote.
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