skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
The only thing more embarrassing than Reddit's behavior is that after 18 years and hundreds of millions in funding they can't make an app or website with a better experience than what someone can do in their basement with just API access.

Part of me thinks that one of the reasons they want to kill 3rd party apps is because they're embarrassed that they're all better than whatever Reddit has come up in the last decade.

Maybe they should listen to mods and users instead of trying to push whatever they want down users' throats, because it's not going to last much longer.
Notably upgrades to libuv 1.45 which has io_uring support. Faster file system access! Awhh yeah, it's on.

Remarkable what a mild & unintrusive PR adding io_uring was. https://github.com/libuv/libuv/pull/3952
Turn on iCloud private internet (apples vpn) and Google will make you do captchas all day long whenever they feel like it. I use DDG now, but Google really wants to track you.
Wasnt javascript created in 10 days?
Why don’t we all monetize our hobbies? Why don’t we market our personal lives? Why don’t we each have our own line of branded merchandise? Why haven’t we written a memoir?

Because some people don’t want to! And that’s okay.
I don't see it that way. That was just a proposed business transaction: reddit pays a fee, and in exchange, the Apollo dev doesn't comment publicly on the API changes. What's the threat, real or implied? The alternative is he goes public, which is only a problem for reddit if they know what they're doing is wrong.
At least we weren't shipping browsers alongside the content.
Nah nobody's going to pay for Reddit.

Monetisation of social networks only works via ads/tracking.
No, no you don't. In business relationships are critical. Anyone who tells you otherwise is probably one of the people you don't want to do business with. There's a name for people who will do anything for money and those are usually one off transactions. You've had a month of everyone telling this guy he's dumb to trust a 3rd party with your platform and now the 2cynical4u people are saying shut up and be a whore.

You're just being an unconstructive critic.

And you have no evidence it's temporary.
> use bitstrings in python, deal with encodings, endianness, interface with hardware

is nowhere even remotely close to

> parse an archaic binary format

The goalposts are on the other side of the field.
Scratches head at how framework laptop is less 'hackable' than a Mac but okay.

"(in the sense that I can't make it do what I want and also be usable as a daily driver that lets me do stuff like pay for stuff, use public transit, charge my car, park, or take an uber/lyft)."

So either the hardware you bought isn't letting you do what you want with it (this includes iPhone too!) Or you become a better hacker and get it to work yourself.
Taurine deficiency as a driver of aging
In my field it's accepted (by some) that you write "AI" for your grant proposal and say "ML" when you talk to colleagues and want to be taken seriously.

It feels a bit wrong to me, because as you say it's arguably a grift, in this case on the taxpayer who funds science grants. More charitably it might just be the applicant admitting that they have no idea what they are doing, and the funding agency seeing this as a good chance to explore the unknown.
Still, unless the field is AI research (mine isn't) it seems like funding agencies should giving money to people who understand their tools.
Funny thing is that discord is also killing itself. They are not really listening to community. Just look at feedback that is given on their username changes.

I wonder how will they kill themselves eventually. As surely that is coming too.
I wonder what harm she is doing to your child
Yes, but much like the "exodus" from Twitter, and others over the years - they all fail to reach critical mass. There's a very real early-mover effect, the likes of which have prevented Mastodon and even Truth from gaining huge ground.

Truth, being perhaps the most interesting, because the main personality behind it sort of compelled it to be semi-well-known simply because of media coverage. The other attempts do not share that effect, however.
The problem is people think of this in terms of "cost to keep the server on that serves an API request" and not the opportunity cost for ad engagement that actually makes the business viable.
Why not just pay Reddit for their APIs? If you’re making $20M a year by building an app on their platform, it seems totally fair to pay them $10M a year for access. Do you expect AWS to host your stuff for free too?
Not sure how long it will last but Brave Browser on IOS redirects reddit urls to old.reddit
The problem with this is that the discourse in those kinds of sites are way too extreme. People who have been kicked off of Reddit and want to _only_ engage in that topic tend to be fanatical. We need companies to embrace _both_ sides.
Defending an obviously incorrect usage by pointing to “the” “dictionary” is rather more pedantic.
Fishing. Every day if I could. Paddle boarding. Mountain biking. So many other things. I’d easily be able to fill my days for the rest of my life if I didn’t have to earn money.
Or just clone whatever API the official Reddit mobile client is using. As long as it's offered for free to the official app, there's no technical way to stop another app from using the same API. The best they could do is bundle some private keys in the official app, but ultimately anything on the client can be reverse engineered and cloned by another app.

The only solution Reddit has to that is complaining to Apple, who can reject the third party app from the App Store. There's precedent for this with things like "unofficial" Pokémon Go clients. Apple is usually happy to remove them. But I'm not sure it's ever gone to trial - it would certainly be interesting, given case law around APIs like with Oracle v Google, or LinkedIn v HiQ.
Patagonia is pushing polyester with its associated micro-plastics, instead of the renewable natural fibers that they were using before like wool. Good, evil, depends on who is counting.
That's also a reason, but the closest penguin being 500+ miles away through the Antarctic winter seems like a much larger barrier.
>Such takings of property under eminent domain had happened before; it was not a new idea in 2005.

>This case was the result of a suit against such takings. The suit failed, and the takings continued.

You're absolutely correct.

GP wondered aloud if eminent domain was warranted for access to the WTC site and if that wasn't related to the 2005 case cited.

I merely pointed out that since WTC was constructed in the late 1960s/early 1970s that that case cited was irrelevant to that question, as it was built 50 years before that case (not to mention that any rebuilding after 9/11 was still before the cited case was decided).

That case wasn't relevant to the discussion at hand. Was it rightly decided? I don't have all the facts and IANAL, so I don't know.

I wouldn't want the state to take my property if I didn't want to sell, although as I understand it, in the 2005 case, the plaintiff was offered fair-market value for their property. Not saying that nullifies the plaintiff's complaint (being forced to sell when they don't wish to do so), nor do I necessarily (again, IANAL and don't know the facts of the case) agree with the court's ruling.

That said, the case cited was irrelevant to the question of whether or not eminent domain was used properly in obtaining access to the property used as the site for the WTC.
I haven't seen much discussion in defense of Reddit protecting their content from LLM training competitors. This to me is why they have to crack down on their API, it's no longer just SEO links back, it's training someone else's models on your content and community for free. This to me is the elephant. It's horrible how they treat their app community, but this is a massive problem for them.
> (Thankfully MacBooks do at least physically disconnect the microphones if you close the lid.)

What is the mechanism for this? It seems like this would be a software system.
> Tell me how this limits real browser choice.

How does Mozilla implement extensions on iOS >_<? It is much more than the rendering engine they are forced to use.
> Why would they?

I do kinda wonder. IANAL, but based on these comments I imagine there could be a case?

> Reddit: "So I would expect no change, certainly not in the short to medium term. And we're talking like order of years."
> "There's not gonna be any change on it. There's no plans to, there's no plans to touch it right now in 2023.

At least for the yearly subscriptions
Linking to my previous comment about glitch tokens: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35453400#35460269

This string seems to be directly related to the /r/counting training data as well.
I don’t know of many such situations but this one was odd:

https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/24/22348255/reddit-moderator...

I don’t really understand how they could make that hire or why they would have thought that person was a good choice…
This is exactly how the serverless guys "get you": Low traffic is nearly free but you pay for it on the slope of the scale cost ramp.
Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estoppel

"By way of illustration:

If a landlord promises the tenant that he will not exercise his right to terminate a lease, and relying upon that promise the tenant spends money improving the premises, the doctrine of promissory estoppel may prevent the landlord from exercising a right to terminate, even though his promise might not otherwise have been legally binding as a contract. The landlord is precluded from asserting a specific right."
Anyone who doesn't know, this is by Chris Lattner the famous hacker who made projects like LLVM, Clang, Swift. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Lattner He is writing this as part of a marketing blitz for his new platform Mojo https://www.modular.com/mojo If you want to see more, he did a long interview with lex fridman recently as part of the same marketing blitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdJQ8iVTwj8

maybe dang will put this into the recirculation queue and retitle it something like 'chris lattner writes blogpost' it will go to number one place on hacker news
1) Apollo exploited nothing. Reddit offered their API for free for years.

2) Sure, he made a ton of money running Apollo, doesn't make what Reddit did less scummy.

3) No requirement, but it's largely accepted as courtesy to notify developers of any changes to the API policy, especially when it comes to pricing. Giving the developer only 30 days to rework their business model, change app architecture/design/code, pass App Store Reviews with Apple/Google, migrate subscribers to a higher-priced tier to afford the increase in pricing, and more is tantamount to spitting in their face. Especially when it's a drastic change from 8+ years of more or less the same.

4) Even if the developer did update pricing to be able to afford the new API rates, the developer himself stated he would have to be $50,000/month in the red for months while he waits for current subscription holders to have their subscription terms expire and renew at the increase rate, and that doesn't count lost subscribers who just decide to not renew.

5) Reddit admins and their CEO slandered the developer in interviews, outright lied, and got caught as the developer recorded the audio of all of their calls proving those lies. Reddit has done this stuff before (Back in 2016 the CEO was caught editing comments critical of him in the production database).

6) Reddit has every right to do what their doing, as Apollo has every right to call them out on how shit this whole thing is, when just back in January they said they had no plans to change their APIs in the short or medium term.

Bad situation all around, but Reddit knows they're doing this to kill third-party apps. They just have to lie that they're being reasonable to save face so investors will buy them up when they go public in a few months.
See this response reddit posted https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/143sho8/admins_c...

Seems the threat of mods to shut down subs holds some weight after all, and they are backtracking on some things. Most third party apps will still not work, but they are supposedly going to improve mod tools in the app, and there will be plenty of API exceptions for mod bots, non-commercial apps and accessibility focused apps.

This seems a lot more reasonable, although the API pricing is still bonkers.
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That's too bad. There's merit in the idea. It's good for people to cook more, and the easier you can make it for them, the better. It's a good way to try out recipes, ingredients, and techniques that might otherwise be difficult or off-putting.

But yeah, the margins are brutal. And the market is a sliver: people willing to cook but not wanting to do all of the research and shopping. I've never had the service because I actually enjoy cooking and even shopping for groceries. But I've helped other prepare their Blue Apron deliveries, and I really enjoy it.

So I hope that the business model doesn't get completely squeezed out, even though I'll never use it.
FP is a paradigm. lisp is a language. you can use lisp to learn FP

if i wanted to learn pure FP i would probably pick many things over Nix
It's unlikely the developer is making $20m+ a year. But only Reddit would know the real number.
There are hundreds of thousands of extensions, and none of them make Google any money. Hard to see how they could justify any serious manual review.
Are there other laptops/chargers out there that support USB PD 3.1 EPR? Curious how those efficiencies compare.
> Are these people similarly traumatized when they open a desk drawer or photo album and happen to see an old photo that evokes sad memories?

This sounds like a plot point from a 1970s detective movie. People use their phones to take photos these days, but before that they used digital cameras.
My main objection to PWAs is that I can't run an content blocker or other extensions inside of them. This renders them unacceptable to me.

For example, one main use would be YouTube. Right now I use a separate Firefox profile on my second monitor so I can run uBlock Origin and Sponsorblock.

It isn't solely about blocking advertisements. I use content blockers extensively to get rid of annoyances, popup banners, intrusive elements of websites like Reddit's incessant prompting to buy "coins" (whatever the heck those are) or join their social media push a la moment. I can't comfortably use the web without this functionality.
Exactly! :-)

Companies aren't willing to lose customers at scale, but they aren't doing anything for the customers if they won't lose them anyway. For most services, most customers except for some diehard ideologists would just bend over and begrudgingly go with the attested option. And a company won't bother using engineer's time if it's only a few people.

So minimum-value random internet blog is probably not going to require attestation - except if they have no idea about it whatsoever and will just use some off-the-shelf solution and enable it because it sounds more secure, without realizing the issue. Anything that has significant value will do as they please and customers may voice some unhappiness, but will obey. And as long as voiced unhappiness is minor (there are always other issues) it will be ignored as not something worth spending resources on (even understanding the issue requires some valuable time).
Hydrogen leaks, damages storage vessels and pipes, cryo more so.

> The boring method of storing hydrogen in underground salt domes and caverns is well understood. This is all way more practical than crisscrossing the oceans with HVDC lines

Ah, no. Salt caverns aren't available everywhere. Getting the hydrogen around isn't easier than getting the electricity the hydrogen makes around.

Also storage is normally my pro-hydrogen talking point when I'm facing a hydrogen skeptic and saying why it's not the totemic bad thing you're acting like you think I'm saying it is — but grid storage is however the not the actual core issue the non-totemic skeptics in this thread actually have, they're talking about other things.

(That said, props for linking to a home h2 storage solution in that other thread).

Heck, when people say hydrogen can't be stored, I point at the 4 GWh hypersonic storage tube that the US government regularly built for single use.

But that's not the substantive sticking point for rolling to doubt.
These reasons related to deployment, but there's also lots of value in the security aspects of the control plane.

* automatic service account for each workload
* automatic service to service auth to 3rd party services
* the audit log
* role based access control
* well defined api
* the explain subcommand
* liveness and readiness probes
* custom resources

The list goes on, but the big ones for a small team just getting started are workload identity and security.
Are you deliberately ignoring the next few lines of the conversation, then?
He can't make the transition on that short a notice. Lots of people were paying $10/yr.
One thing I've been a little surprised by is the idea that, even if the API pricing was reasonable and these apps weren't shutting down, that they wouldn't be heavily and severely impacted by the fact that 3rd party apps will not be able to access NSFW content. Reddit has a LOT of porn on it. Preventing 3rd party apps from accessing that content is a pretty good indicator to me that they're going to completely get rid of that content, eventually. People keep making Digg references, but I'm not sure the real answer won't actually be Tumblr.
He needs to sue Steve Huffman personally for defamation. Steve has been a known lying snake for years and it's long past due that somebody make him pay for it.
I don't disagree with this take, I just disagree with your implied evaluation of how important that is. Who cares if he put some usernames on record as saying something they never said?

I know that you do, and you have your reasons, but...well, I don't. I think people are taking reddit commenting way too seriously if heads need to roll over a comment edit.
Is there a built-in assumption of incompetence at Reddit in your comment?

If you assume they know all what you said, and that they have dashboards showing breakdowns of submitters/commenters/voters by client, can you imagine a charitable explanation of what may motivate their current actions? Even if you do not like the reason, do you think it may be rational?
> I don't see why we can't have clean, low noise, high signal syntax in a language like Rust. My criticism is not the syntax that makes the language more expressive - that's essential complexity.

As I pointed in Matklad's post you need to add those concepts in or devise a way to infer them, side by side comparisson of Rust/JS is meaningless if one has no concept of lifetime or one abstracts details via GC.

> Before Rust everybody[1] seemed to believe we cannot have a safe and natively compiled language.

I do agree, but you can't avoid all trade-offs. Rust got safe, natively compiled language by increasing type complexity (adding lifetimes and ownership), and adding more sigil noise. If Rust had GC it would be way simpler and way less usefull.

> like the somewhat redundant distinction between dot and double colon

I don't think it's redundant. But I'm not a Rust compiler guy.
Is the professional photography industry dying? Serious question.
Not only oil, also short on people to drive all those trains and busses (people who accept low wages, of course).
Looking at #s on the app store / play store and it looks like RIF / Apollo usage is a drop in the bucket compared to the actual reddit app. I doubt this has any meaningful impact after all is settled. Just seems like a loud vocal minority.
Even without ring, Las Vegas is covered in cameras only to be outdone by London or Beijing. I am leaning towards a green flare/firework and a hoax call.

I know the idea is exciting to many but I am not looking forward to the day it isn't a hoax because the first thing our government will do is mandatory lock-downs until they know what pathogens the visitors brought with them and the visitors may not be thrilled to have their bodily fluids tested. I'm not worried about the visitors. If they were intelligent enough to make it here and did not attack unprovoked then they are probably otherwise mostly harmless.
I wonder how much you'd need to farm to have an equilibrium reduction in fossil fuels (e.g., trap carbon in in flight kelp)
This is pretty wild. I don't think I've ever seen something like this. I like it. I think Reddit needs to come down to reality.
Remote first, with appropriate hubs in geographic locations as needed. It worked for me pre pandemic and I used everything in between fully remote and in office (I had no need to relocate away from the office), it would happily work for me in a post-pandemic world too, as long as any hybrid arrangements are decided by individual teams’ needs and team members’ individual preferences and flexibilities (or lack of, as expected in life).
>argues about politics

>claims it's a hack so it's le hackers news

lmao.
No legal channels necessary for non-US citizens. The government just asks and the companies just comply, because why not.
It could also just imply that seaweed isn’t going to work for some reason.
Because sometimes, you don't want to reclimb the mountain you just hiked up and down.
I repeat my request to actually read the words that I wrote, along with the references, and respond to that instead of the emotions you're feeling.

Please read these points carefully:

1. While cats, in general, are a threat to birds, the cats managed by the TNR program on Google Campus were not a threat to burrowing owls in the Shoreline park;

2. Shutdown of the TNR program resulted in the increase of the feral cat population, and had no positive impact on the owls;

3. The primary threat to the burrowing owls is human interference and destruction of habitat. These birds are not particularly threatened by stray cats in the first place.

4. Saying that the general statement applies to a particular case without looking at the facts is a fallacy.

TL;DR: "cats are a threat to birds" doesn't imply that my house cat in the US is a threat to kiwis in New Zealand.
I feel like it is much, much simpler than that

Reddit makes money off of ads, and Apollo doesn’t show ads. The same was the case for Twitter and Tweetbot. In some ways, Christian is directly capturing revenue that Reddit otherwise would.

I would agree that the proposed API pricing is not a workable starting point, but I do think Apollo (and, by proxy, its users) will eventually have to pay Reddit something.
gregschlom's law of headlines on HN: "Any headline on Hacker News that ends in a question mark will have a comment mentioning Betteridge's law of headlines"

I'm not joking. It's been done so often that it doesn't add much to the conversation at this point.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... - over 2,000 hits.
Well, no shit sherlock, that's the same for every major government out there
Hm, doesn't it use the outward-facing display at all times, to display your status (whether you're fully immersed, are able to see others, or are recording a video, etc.?) I'm sure there's more processing required to show the eyes, but it's still illuminating the display when it's showing these other states. These could be done via simple LED indicators, saving some energy.
Morgan Stanley cuts ties with Crispin Odey after sexual assault allegations
Ask HN: How many of you have been laid off twice this year already?
It happened to me :( I thought this was super rare but I've run into a few other people to whom this happened so now I'm wondering, how many people have been laid off twice already this year?