skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Seems strange to make a point about myopia being caused by screens being too close to your face minutes before announcing this.
Does this help or hurt someone like Magic Leap?
Almost, the last patent is about SVMs which are a different ML learning paradigm (one that completely eclipsed neural networks for some time, for what it's worth).

> I think what's happening (what always happens) is that people overreact and have a hard time finding nuance when they are upset.

Yup. I agree that software patents, in the US at least, are a bit of a cluster-fuck, but it's evidently not true that nothing non-trivial was ever patented.
It's only functions that "block and wait" that it makes sense to be async - the point being that blocking and waiting doesn't use up CPU cycles, so you might as well free the thread up to do other stuff. If a function issues a socket write, then continues utilising the CPU while also periodically checking if data's available to read, it's effectively doing manually what async does for you, though I'm not sure there are too many real life examples of such functions. But pre-async it was certainly common enough for block-and-wait functions to tie up a thread and hence execution of programs with limited multi-threading (even today, GUIs often require all events and updates to be processed on the primary thread).
Because it's not that easy due to Apple Silicon architecture display controller limitations with the current chips. Note that none of the PCI-e cards in the demonstration were GPUs. They were all network/storage/accelerators/etc.

In the short term, I could see shoving an Nvidia GPU in a slot for offloading CUDA and GPU compute, but it wouldn't be really suitable for video gaming and such.
I'm not quite sure how this addresses my point in anyway?

I'm talking about the comparison of two people and what they are/have been accused of. Not whether any one court claim has legitimate evidence or not.
Finally, a good reason to upgrade (again).
Feels like the marketing department at Apple has gone down hill: is "Apple Vision Pro" really the best name they could come up with? How about something like "iView" or "iWorld" or "iSight"?
Raising my hand because I detest macos.
One of the reasons it has those data structures is because it sits on the JVM and to maintain compatibility with Java apps it must use them and provide a syntax for them. That’s a practical choice, of course, but also less of an idiomatic lisp.

In (pure) lisp there is only one main data structure and it’s everywhere.
Maybe I am in the minority, but I have no problem using my laptop on the couch for a few hours. It's quite comfortable.
Can anyone familiar with this matter provide some context?

I'm having a hard time understanding what is happening here.
You’d think it would because of that but you’d also think if it was supported they’d mention it, if only to provide defense against the “only for friendless nerds that live alone” criticism, albeit at an absurd price point.
How do the 1p apps block people's ads? Some sort of ML detection?
I don't think that's self-evident. If the eye tracking is really good, it could obviate the need for a mouse.
You have to look but there are options out there.

https://puri.sm/

I trust Apple to behave like a for-profit business.
I've seen Apple make changes when it's benefited them (because their image matters to their customers).
I could see this being revolutionary for in-computer music production, because currently that space is heavily modal and arcane to use with a mouse and tons of deeply buried UIs.

Imagine organizing digital instruments spatially in your office and composing music with a spatial feel similar to using a hardware setup. Then you can flip between various setups. For example you might bring up the mixing environment when you're ready to mix, which fills your office with a mixing board, amps, compressors and whatnot instead of synths and drum machines.

Could make digital modular synthesis a lot of fun, too, as you could move digital wires around in physical space.
I had a lunch time project for a couple of months, where I would spend about 30 minutes a day (I had to limit myself) implementing a scheme-like in an assembly-like language called Teraterm. It was fun trying to work within the constraints of the language. I finally quit when I hit TTs built in recursion limits. I know the solution would be implementing a call stack in TT, but I couldn't bring myself to do it.
This is not the reason people will or will not buy this. Contrary to it, they’d be called idiots for wearing it for nothing, as they are the ones seeing it inside
Looking for competition on naming! Do you have one better than this?

iScuba

:)
Why not just fire everyone, and Elon can run it on 1% of its original revenue?

brb, drafting a valuation of my economic activity at randint(10^9)
This seems to be an evergreen topic on HN. Everyone likes to rant, and nothing changes.

Besides @myshpa's references below, I've published several things myself, and one of them made the front page of HN:

https://albertcory50.substack.com/p/lets-vote-on-it

https://albertcory50.substack.com/p/no-source-code-no-patent (front page)

It's not inconceivable that Congress, even one as dysfunctional as this one, could eventually agree that software is not patentable subject matter. That's Ripley's "nuke it from orbit" solution.

Democrats: because software patents are a tool of rich tech companies to maintain their dominance.

Republicans: because they hate the trial lawyers, and some R's are libertarian-leaning as well. And because they hate the tech giants, too.

Write your congressman & senators. Or pick some other active form of political participation.
There are MANY examples of The Walt Disney Company making poor decisions. The most recent one would have to be the "Star Wars Hotel" that cost $1,200/night PER PERSON. In what world can enough Americans afford to fill up a hotel every night at that price? They did what all companies do- they got greedy. Now they have a $300M write-off as they tear it down.

DIS stock is taking a dump right now because Disney+, it turns out, isn't the savior we all thought it was (and were led to believe it was) during the pandemic when the Parks division wasn't bringing in the cash. ESPN is dead weight. They have more debt than ever thanks to the pandemic.
All the other people that are attending the facetime call should also be using the glasses and why not an apple headphone. That way instead of talking to my brother I could talk to a Daft Punk member.

We could change the name of the app to robottime.
Except that my fairly modest upper midrange desktop has ~1.2TB/sec of memory bandwidth...

Cause, I just added the GPU and system RAM bandwidth numbers together. Which is what needs to be kept in mind with much of this. Yes that is a lot of memory bandwidth and its hella useful for some subset of users, but its shared, and largely pointless for a lot of CPU bound tasks. But OTOH, may not be enough for many GPU bound ones.

It also assumes that pretty much every other CPU manufacture on the planet are idiots for optimizing for latency and putting in large caches to compensate (aka the desktop parts from AMD/intel have only _two_ channels, vs the 8+ in the server/workstation parts) and price discriminating for the parts that have more CPU bandwidth. AKA, you can get amd machines in the same ballpark (or possibly faster depending on how fast you can get 24 channels of DDR5 to run).

So, I'm not saying which is better because its likely workload dependent, but to claim its a blanket insurmountable advantage is questionable. Particularly since the price ranges we are talking about a similar machine is probably a 64 core threadripper plus a fat nvidia GPU or four and the shear core count and raw GPU compute is probably a win in most workloads.
> a cultural phenomenon, rather than a strictly technical one. You could write unsafe unsafe Rust that derefs invalid pointers all day

Yes you could. But I do not think " cultural" is the right term for not putting all your code in an `unsafe` block
The bank accounts are about the U.S., not the people.
>Same as running inside to grab the camcorder, no?

Presumably new iPhone will record 3d video.
> Awesome trailer, but the Meta Quest 3 can do the same things, with somewhat worse hardware but that's acceptable considering its 7x cheaper.

"My pinto can do the same thing as your Private jet, just with somewhat worse hardware but that's acceptable considering it cheaper."
AirPods are popular, sure, but I have quite literally never seen AirPods Max in the wild. People in the market for premium noise cancelling headsets are all buying Sony or Bose.

And it isn't just about price. There are plenty of AR/VR headsets out there that have the same feature set and are far cheaper, and they still haven't found product market fit. The problem isn't that they need more polish.

With Meta winding down its reality investments Vision Pro is pretty much the last shot this entire sector has. If this device fails then we have no choice but to accept that VR/AR is at best a niche hobby, not the world-changing technology that we so desperately want it to be.
People congratulate themselves about all sorts of things. My question is why you — an adult who is a discerning media consumer — have come to believe that sexual themes in children’s media are a recent phenomenon.
Yeah from what I can tell and being a solitary person if I had 3.5k I'd be all over this. And I am a die-hard Linux guy though I have an iPhone and an Apple Watch. Very cool stuff, albeit, if it lives up to the hype in the presentation. Very cool stuff.
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IIRC Sony were an absolute mess at the time. Didn't want to cannibalise their Minidisc sales, had weird DRM... even in the geeky crowds I ran in (where Nomads definitely were seen) Sony MP3 players were a rarity.
It isn't enabled on android by default anymore.

Which means the "bump to see this video" turns into "hang on, go into settings and hunt for nearby share, probably hidden in the 'Other' menu..."
Seems like another collector's item. Something later to be looked at "Why X didn't take off?" sort of.
Disagree.

Plenty of examples of companies that did nothing wrong, but some written comment, by some employee is enough to convince a jury that "something probably happened".

I remember one pharmaceutical company was on trial for a drug that was suspected to have a bad side effect (later analysis show it didn't). They had done nothing wrong, all data was provided to the FDA, they diligently collected post-marking data, shared with the FDA, etc.

A civil suit was brought and during discovery they found a comment that said "maybe our dose was too high?". The person who made the comment had nothing to do with the trials, didn't have the skills to interpret the data, didn't even have a medical background.

Once that was found? Boom, the company settled because that was enough to convince a jury that "they probably knew it was wrong".

It's very easy to put something in writing now that has no impact, but in a few years time is a smoking gun. It doesn't matter if you testify that around the circumstances when you wrote it ("oh, I didn't mean that"), the jury won't believe you, the prosecution will just flash that one sentence up and say "see, it obvious the company was hiding the problem".
A lot of people were even less charitable at the time.
But then you have a calzone startup, which most definitely isn't something SoftBank (or anyone who likes food) wants to scale up.
They announced all the tech specs. As for the chips, an M2 and a new dedicated chip for sensor processing called R1.
> Does someone watch an entire 2+ hour movie with a sweaty headset strapped to them (and plugged into a socket) instead of on a couch with their family/friends?

Flights. This might become a must-have for the jet-setting class. That not only makes Apples first-year numbers, it fertilizes the market for developers.
This is Hacker News, I'm pretty sure there's no need to rename him from Jensen to 'NVIDIA CEO'. There's only one Carmack, one Linus, one DJB, one Elon and one Jensen.
The HP is usually at least 30% off and has ECC memory - so depending on your use case it may still make sense.
I used to do exactly that when the pandemic started, but like, is that enough for a $3k headset? I paid $2k for my setup but I was already heavily committed to various simulation game genres.

120 people is not enough for an entire headset division, and since the main reason most people don't like doing that is that they don't really enjoy having the headset on, I don't know what apple can do to change that.
Well, it would be more than that for me, since I don't own a Mac, so I'd have to buy that too. With my budget that's unlikely, especially since I'm pretty happy with my Windows laptop and desktop.

Looks like a lovely toy, if you can afford it and don't mind wearing bulky goggles, but I think I'd prefer to keep my head unencumbered for most computer tasks.

Does look like a cool way to watch videos though.
So.. Fun fact, Osterhaut group(ODG) has something just like this and it was working as Apple demos showed and it was out 7 years ago. I tried it on and for me it was the biggest game changer I felt since the 2007 iphone. Microsoft bought the patents from odg and the company ran out of money trying its own strategy. Sad story for them but I hope apple really does this right as it will be an absolute game changer.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/03/odg-unveils-its-first-cons...
Hurt because if I buy this, I won’t buy the other.
I have to wonder about a device that won't allow you to watch a 2-hour movie without running out of battery and having to plug it in. I guess Oppenheimer is a no-go.
Apples and oranges. I believe this area in Ukraine is considerably wetter vs. many Western US forests that typically see large scale wildfires.
Show HN: Arqode AR X QR
Attach content to a QR code and then view that content in AR.
A 4090 is $1500-2000 depending on the vendor. A M2 MacBook Air with 24GB RAM is in the same price range, and it's a whole-ass laptop.
> What do you think? Why?

asking if someone’s post was written by gpt is just a new way of being rude that internet mods haven’t yet had the balls to ban people for.
That's still a bad comparison. You should be comparing a comparably priced stand alone device to the AppleTV. The built-in OS is never as good as decent stand alone devices even on $3000 TVs.
Yes, Google Glass was fun, and geeky, but was SO bad.

This seems to be an actual well thought out product. The resolution is a lot higher than the meta quest 3, and delays will be super small.

They're marketing this for productivity, which for me is the main selling point for VR at this point. I want a more spatial desktop, and I want multiple screens on the go.
>Alone the stealing is a deal breaker alone.

Judging from the video it doesn’t work outside anyway so you’ll be fine.
My bigger worry is how I would type, if that's at all possible. My assumption, like the sibling comment notes, is that eye tracking would replace mouse input.

And I'm not yet typing code by talking to a computer. Maybe AI will work for 'typing' by talking and using copilot or some similar tech, but I've yet to try that and am not that confident that software has caught up to allow me to navigate folders and files within a codebase, edit the code, restart any servers if that's necessary, test (run tests, or visit a page, or send a curl request), post a pull request, etc. All of the disjoint steps I need to do to work, which change depending on the task, would need to work confidently in a system like this for me to switch over. And if speech is the way forward, I think my wife is going to be pretty upset with me since I WFH.
It's been what ? 8 months ? Who lost their job ? Where is skynet ?
I hate MacOS. I've used it as my daily OS for over three years, and never "grew to like it" (as everyone said, "just give it time"). I feel like a kid when using it, everything is hidden away to look fancy instead of usable.

The hardware is okay, I guess. I envy the M1 chips. But I don't like the keyboard layout (even after 3 years it feels off..), or how they've for years not have included necessary ports so it's a dongle-show. I also don't like the value per dollar of their hardware. If my employer pays it's fine, but I wouldn't pay the Apple tax myself.

I'm not here to start a flame war. Just to point out that you speak as if your preferences are a global truth, but plenty disagree.
> Does someone really sit on their couch, put on a massive headset, and scroll through their vacation photos? Does someone watch an entire 2+ hour movie with a sweaty headset strapped to them (and plugged into a socket) instead of on a couch with their family/friends?

This was exactly my biggest question. In what situation do you sit and watch family photos of a vacation with your kids alone on your couch? In almost all cases, you're doing that with your family, or showing them to someone else. And if you've got a family (as many people in the ads did!) you're also watching movies together with them most of the time. Apple completely sidestepped talking about how other people might be able to share your experience. Even if this is amazing for actual work, and you're working in a physical office (as the guy in the ad did! as Apple requires all employees do a few days a week!), how will you show your coworker what you're working on? They also conspicuously focused on manufacturing, presentations, and conferencing as their office use cases, and not coding, despite repeatedly stating that small text looks very clear.

As for the "running inside and grabbing a headset" aspect, it felt like they were implying that people will wear this everywhere they go (which they similarly imply won't feel weird exactly due to the weird eye display thing), so you'll already be wearing the headset. But that feels like a very, very ambitious goal, that right now seems ridiculously unlikely/niche.
> You're making a bold assumption, that someone wants to wear this headset when relaxing.

Raises hand. I'm in for that. I'm a VR fan but my soapbox has always been that AR is the true future.

> Also, a TV can be watched by multiple people, and a home cinema will obviously deliver better sound.

In the same way that when the iPhone came out there were individual devices that could do each feature better than the iPhone could, yes :)

If you look at video consumption, "individual" devices (phones, tablets, laptops) make up about 50% of viewing time. TV the rest. I don't think the multiple people angle is going to kill this considering how much content is consumed individually already.

A home cinema also has to be researched, purchased separately, takes up space, etc. Any pair of $200 Bose headphones sounds better than the old iPhone ear pods...and yet...

> it's insanely hard to replace the simplicity of text buffers and a keyboard.

We're talking about replacing monitors, not text buffers or keyboards!
IMO what makes Apple different and more likely to succeed than Meta is that they are pursuing more concrete scenarios like viewing content in a more immersive environment or spinning up a large viewing surface where you may have none .

Meta's problem is this focus around social interactions which just isn't taking hold apart from a niche audience of enthusiasts. Having tried the Quest Pro, if Meta pursued the remote office collaboration scenario more vigorously which is really quite promising and multiple desktop monitor replacement they would do a lot better

The obvious drawback with the Apple device is price and it's going to have challenges with traction. The enterprise would be a good place to start but that doesn't seem to be Apple's forte
Google is using the wrong tricks to keep marketshare.. I'm not even sure if they know it
I had to change the scope of my desires. I don't want to make the next Python. Not even the next Zig or Nim. I just like fiddling with compilers and interpreters. Someone else mentioned Crafting Interpreters and I'll bring it up, too. I've been following along in C# and occasionally come back to my C#Lox implementation and work through another chapter. It is quite a lot of fun.
There are plenty of cases where you wouldn't want something perfectly reasonable to be published in the Post. The key is context - some things are complicated and require background and relevant information; if taken without that context, they'll seem bad.

Seeing as we live in a world in which people in the other political party are highly motivated to take whatever they can of their opponents (and their opponents' appointees, etc.) and make them sound bad, it's understandable that folks would be cautious of what they write down. If someone emails you a question whose answer is potentially politically sensitive, you might not want to provide a brief answer to that email that you know could be misconstrued. That isn't "evidence of consciousness of wrongdoing" - it's just understanding the reality of politics.
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Apple likely started with the "Pro" moniker fully intending for non-pro versions to come out at lower price points.
Reminds me of the very useful swipe-to-camera gesture that Android scrapped in favor of whatever they copied from Apple that year. Apple subsequently copied the swipe-to-camera feature, and Android never saw it again.

We have double-power-to-camera, which is arguably better than a swipe. Still, I'd like to see Android/Google have some confidence. Too often, we end up with half-assed "me-too"s from Google.
Yeah for the same reason, European PS2 versions shipped with a Demo-Disc containing a dialect of BASIC.[0]

I don't think anyone ever made proper games with it but as a kid I really enjoyed playing around with it and making my first programming baby steps.

[0] https://www.theregister.com/2000/11/07/sony_adds_basic_to_pl...
AR is so, so, so difficult and so much more than just good resolution. If they are trying to do passthrough camera then the framerate has to be super high while also delivering all that 4k video. The problems with opacity and occlusion of real and superimposed objects is almost impossible to make it truly immersive. I think their trick is likely going to be in the software and in the interaction modes. You can't strap this to your head and ride a bike with heads up display, this will be a seated experience with a controlled environment. And it may do that one job very, very well.
Correct. Apple products are really not meant to be used as one-offs if you are otherwise in Android/whatever ecosystem.
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I use Meta Quest 2 on an average around an hour a day - workouts, Netflix, Youtube etc. I am really excited but Vision Pro, but $3500 is a bit too high for me.

I am now eagerly waiting for what Meta Quest 3 has in store for us. I'll just upgrade to that for now and will wait for Vision Pro cost to come down.
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I've no idea who DJB or Jensen are.
> all this VR/AR hype has yet to deliver something... anything... anything at all

…in the consumer space. There have been some really incredible tools I've seen in industrial or medical spaces, and I think that's unlikely to change in the near term.
What I see is most physical patents involve something that is actually novel--the low-hanging fruit was picked long ago. Most software patents involve something that would be the expected product (or one of a small set of possible products) of assigning a software engineer to solve the problem. (To me the clearest example of this is blinking cursors. Draw by inversion or draw with a backing store--both are obvious techniques to any software professional, both were at one time patented.)