skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> ... Also, a TV can be watched by multiple people ...

I will point to this article: "Why Americans are lonelier and its effects on our health" [1] that claims that "some surveys reveal that around 60 percent of people in the U.S. right now report feeling lonely on a pretty regular basis. And that's pretty devastating from a public health perspective".

I don't know the real number but it connect with the market potential. Also, Apple is really great on hitting the mark. Playing with words, I don't think Mark is as good as Apple.

[1] https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/why-americans-are-lonelier....
And Google just (sadly) pulled support from Chrome.

Your move, Google.
For the price of a single Apple Vision Pro, I can buy a 65” 4K TV, a Dolby Atmos surround-sound system from Sonos, and still have a bit left over.

And you’ll need a Vision Pro for each person watching.
>Even though macOS is more polished than your average Linux desktop environment, it's really very hard to ignore the unjustified markup.

It's justified if people pay it.

>Nowadays I can buy a miniPC with a Ryzen5 and 32GB of RAM for around 400€, but the cheapest Mac mini nowadays sells for over 700€ and comes with 8GB of RAM and an absurd 256GB SSD.

So what's the problem?

If you like running Linux on your Ryzen5 miniPC with 32GB of RAM for 400€, you're more than free to do that. Apple's not stopping you.
Now do iOS. Content-aware fill still fails with OOM on iPad Pro, yet works fine on older Macs with less processing power.
They also showed a model sitting on a 15k couch wearing probably a 3-5k turtleneck dress....
This headset is without a doubt an order of magnitude above things like the Meta Quest Pro, but even with that increase in power, UI, hardware, etc - I'm not sure they have really figured out the "why" for it quite yet.

The biggest tell is the fact that the battery pack is going to give you only two hours of use. Part of the appeal of a headset being AR instead of VR is that I can use it while out and about to add context and value to what I am seeing. The battery is a major limitation that will keep its use squarely at home or in the office, where it essentially is just another monitor (or set of monitors).
30 people.. completely pointless, the behavior of the participants would never match actual reality. Truly universal UBI would just cause price increases for everything and will never be possible in a resource scarce society. Sure you might be able to afford necessities for a few months until the market adjusts..
Apple TV is inexpensive and you hide it close to the TV. This one costs more than $3000 and you have to wear it on your face all the time. Masks work well only when we're alone or if everybody is wearing one. If not, they use to cancel the wearer from social interactions.
I am expecting a lot of apps to be able to cast a window directly to visionOS devices by the time this thing actually launches or possibly a way to split out spaces into their own screens by the time this launches.
I'm usually a fan of shiny new things, but this might be the first time I'll make an intentional effort to not buy something. I expect it's going to be fantastic, and using it for my development workstation would be amazing. However, I feel like this will be a net negative for humankind.

My kids will plead with me to get them one, and it will be easy to say no because it's so expensive. But with each successive generation it will get better and cheaper until I can no longer use cost as an excuse. My kids will explain to me that they have no way to interact with their friends because they all use it. I'm already dreading it.
Even better is to give the instruction in Japanese (at least with earlier models).
I don't want the face computer.
Disney did a better job of demonstrating the Vision Pro's ability than apple. This is obviously going to be a hit, and by gen 3 - 4(with a ton a immersive apps) it might by trailing behind iPhone.
Also for taxes

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/uk-court-ps2-is-no-compute...
> Does someone really sit on their couch, put on a massive headset, and scroll through their vacation photos?

A male sitting alone in a dimmed room watching photos with a smug on his face. I think they were hinting at something else than “vacation photos”.
Thank you for the pointer. This still requires a backend server running Chroma, correct?
That doesn't seem like a remotely good reason to pay loads of money to administrators in Antigravity Logistical Inclusion Tracking while the PhD students in quantum gravity can't afford rent.
Read the court filing. There's a lot of inside information from "BAM CEO A" and "BAM CEO B". These were the first two CEOs of Binance.us. They came on board thinking they had a real job. Then they discovered they were just figureheads.
"BAM CEO A" was fired. "BAM CEO B" quit after three months and started cooperating with US regulators.

"Upon assuming his CEO duties, however, BAM CEO B quickly learned that
Binance, in fact, exerted and would not relinquish substantial control over BAM Trading and the
operation of the Binance.US Platform. As he testified under oath, BAM CEO B did not “have
any firsthand knowledge of exactly what [Binance] entity managed [Binance.US Platform’s]
servers,” but he knew it “wasn’t [BAM Trading].” Similarly, he also testified that the matching
engine was “presumably owned and administered by some [Binance] entity, but I have no idea
which one, and then there’s other servers doing other functions.” He concluded, the “biggest risk
in this company is we are highly dependent on a bunch of technology that sits in Asia.”

"BAM CEO B tried to implement plans to migrate those functions and control of
the crypto assets from Binance to BAM Trading and into the United States, but Zhao quickly
overruled him, causing BAM CEO B to resign approximately three months into his tenure."

"As BAM CEO B testified, “[W]hat became clear to me at a certain point was CZ
was the CEO of BAM Trading, not me.” He further explained that he spent his first 80 days as
CEO trying “to get these core foundational things realigned,” but “was overruled on all of them”
by Zhao. BAM CEO B elaborated, “All of the things that we had previously agreed and had
worked on for 80 days were suddenly repudiated with no further discussion, and on that day, I
realized, huh, I’m not actually the one running this company, and the mission that I believe I
signed up for isn’t the mission. And as soon as I realized that, I left.”"
They shouldn't have revealed the price today, it would have afforded them more time to build hype around features and in-person demos (and to give themselves a chance to reduce the price before release).

Now it's going to kill interest in the device before it's even out.
I don’t think the dorky mask look will change any time soon. There’s just too much electronics to fit into the system for it to shrink down to a pair of regular glasses.

When the Apple Watch was introduced, I thought that the form factor would change after a few years. It’s almost been ten years and it doesn’t seem like Apple will be making any big form factor changes to the product.

Apple will just have to make it fashionable to wear dorky scuba masks everywhere. Maybe the price tag will be sufficient…
Saved comment, like the Slashdot user mocking the iPod: "No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame."
Excellent. JPEG XL is a usable general-purpose image format, not just a passive delivery format like WebP and AVIF.
Media Player on Linux
Well, looks like we'll have to do without the extended LOTR edition...
Can’t agree enough. My back/neck issues amplified during covid, invested in a sit/standing desk together with a stool (varier move, also nice when standing up) after a while; it was worth every cent.

My next, just achieved, goal was to remove my 3-monitors from the setup, I wanted to have more space and move my head/neck more. Bought a VR headset (Pico 4) this friday and setup VirtualDesktop & Immersed (if you want to see your keyboard), what a blast.

The most noticable thing for me was, once the lenses were setup properly, the ‘monitor’ was always clear no matter what position I was in or angle with the monitor; my posture feels less tense already (biggest difference is the position of my chin I think, it doesnt creep towards the monitor anymore.

The image quality really isn’t good enough, pico has 2 4K lenses but it feels like a monitor from 2010 sometimes. Really looking forward to Apples take on VR/AR since it seems to be aimed at replaving a workstation rather than a gaming device.
> Also, a TV can be watched by multiple people, and a home cinema will obviously deliver better sound.

I was extremely surprised that shared reality was completely absent from the presentation. Apparently the sensors on these devices don't enable creating a coordinate system that multiple devices can collaborate on/in. You can't look at the same objects in space together.

This is hard stuff, but I'm stunned they're shipping it before solving that problem.
Yeah, "4K TV resolution" doesn't mean anything as that completely ignores viewing distance. Pixels Per Degree (PPD) is the core metric and it drives me bananas that marketing professionals continue to intentionally obfuscate basic facts about products for sale.

I assume they're just ashamed that after billions of dollars in product development, they were unable to obtain the requisite 35PPD necessary to emulate a very basic "virtual computer monitor" and display readible text - or get close to the 62PPD that actually represents the limits of human resolution and is the golden benchmark to shoot for.

Maybe they did achieve these goals, which would be impressive, but without using standardised meaningful metrics for HMD resolution you just can't tell.
This seems like a step backwards from just seeing a real persons face on a regular screen :(
They claim this new version has a fancy transformer-based text production model. Assuming that same engine powers swipe prediction, we might finally see an improvement here. Here’s to hoping. Voice dictation has also gotten worse over the past couple of years, I’m very excited that they claim they’ve got a new transformer-based architecture that works a lot better now. These two features alone might dramatically improve my quality of life using iOS. Android from a decade ago was better at text entry than iOS is currently.
Last October, I sent my coworker a short rant that chatbots don’t work, never will, and everyone really needs to stop trying to build them.

ChatGPT was released a week later. My coworker claims he’s gonna have my rant framed.
I do a light tap to bring up the copy/paste options. Long-press activates the navigation mode to drag the cursor.
In the US you can be sued if you have a safety system that isn't on some models and someone gets injured. check with a laywer for details.

Note that despite the above, don't buy a tool without those safety features. Better to spend more now and live than get your heirs a pile of money.
Speaking as a total non-expert here: assuming workspaces _look_ good, I think this will entirely depend on software. What will it be like to use this with a keyboard? Will the OS be as siloed as iOS?

This morning, my mac wouldn't boot. I tried to write on my iPad instead. It was a nightmare: too cumbersome to move between apps, Zotero nearly unworkable, hard to navigate different file versions. If the OS works more like iOS than macOS, I can't imagine it being as useful as computers save for very specific applications.
I just want 2 decent nics, 2 nvme, 8-16gb ram, and a cpu, that's all. Damn thing can be headless for all I caree.

Instead all these boards all have six video outputs and usb connectors protruding from every single edge. No shit you don't have any PCIe lanes left after you spent it putting three 10gbps usb ports on the front. Is it just because they can?!?
> For personal/entertainment use it largely replaces the need for a TV, soundbar, or home cinema.

TV viewing is often a social experience: friends gathering in front of a TV to watch a sporting event (say, a World Cup soccer match, or your favorite team's football game, or an NBA finals game). This takes away that aspect. I'm not sure if this is a change we really need.
I'm skeptical. But if I put my inner skeptic in the corner, what I'm most excited about is how it will affect ergonomics.

Most input happens in a (typically horizontal) plane, but the human body is better modeled in polar coordinates. It's called "tech neck" because we've attached a screen to the input plane and then end up hunching while we look at it. Decoupling the two, if we can pull it off, will help a lot of people.
If these end up being closed systems, Apple will likely win the race. They'll just sell it better and they'll integrate it way better with all their existing hardware. The network effect will ensure that this is pretty much what people end up buying.
but it's AR?
Except even regular sunglasses are often inconvenient to carry around. So this will never get in your pocket.

The rear revolution will be when the info goes directly to our brain, bypassing the eyes. VR headsets looks to me like half assed interim "what if" devices.
I could see myself enjoying this for work - insane screen real estate! And for catchijg up with family abroad IF we can see each other in 3D. How do you see each others face though? Can it reconstruct your face using AI or something (it already is looking at your eyes)
The Design and Implementation of the Xline Persistent Storage Layer
What’s your community?
I mean...

Only if you assume the author would have actually maintained it in the first place. I'm fairly unconvinced that a guy who puts his mail order bride in charge of the company that released the FS is going to be doing much more work on it.

Said more bluntly - it's an unfinished project of a man who had moved on to other things already. It wasn't valuable enough for someone to pick up. So it's getting removed.

It happens to be particularly spicy that the "Other things" he moved on to were murder/prison, but not really related to the code other than as a "hey - this is a crazy aside" moment.
At one time there were natural nuclear reactors. Veins of uranium rich enough to fission.
> AirTag can be shared with up to five other people

Finally! Every time either me or my wife goes out of town we have to remove the luggage airtags from one account and add them back in to the other one. When my kid leaves his jacket somewhere at school, only his phone can find it. Super annoying.
A keyboard fits on the tray a lot easier than a laptop if youve never tried it.
Sure, but Apple have had missteps too.

Touch Bar - most intuitive ever?

Butterfly keyboard - thinnest ever?

Bendy iPhone - lightest ever?

Antennagate - sleekest design?
i think the angle they are going for is that it’s exactly as isolating (airplane, the experience you MOST want to get away from), or un-isolating (being with kids, the experience you LEAST want to get away from), as you want. and it flubbed
I completely agree with you about the tiredness of the eye or fatigueness of the eye. It's really hard to imagine someone wearing this kind of device for a very long time without feeling any pain. I'm not sure exactly the reason why this pain came from. But I think the question we face is going to be maybe the next big thing for humans, which is going to directly connect all those sensors directly connected to our central brain without using the eye. But that's kind of a science fiction thing. I'm not sure I'm going to have a chance to experience those things.
I highly doubt many Oculus devices were sold that were used 0 times.
> - For personal/entertainment use it largely replaces the need for a TV, soundbar, or home cinema.

I don't know about others in this thread, but for me the satisfaction of watching a movie alone is extremely low - to the point I don't do it at all.
My recollection is that Sony's Memory Stick based products of this era all had weird DRM requirements that were a big hassle.
I think the parent comment meant there isn't a way to make memory more efficient when it comes to app data. And code takes up so much less memory that x86 vs ARM code size isn't going to make a measurable difference.

In any case, 1.5TB is only going to help a few app niches. It is hard to even reliably predict which kinds. Even, say, editing 8K video could be well-enough accommodated with much less memory if file system bandwidth is high enough.
What a sad story...
Not wireless. Higher price than a Quest. Lame.
NT kernel was made to be slapped on different architectures easy
Small, comfortable smart glasses enabling Hololens 2 like UX, I agree.

Bulky, expensive passthrough? No, there are better, cheaper, more open options than this on the market. If it was going to change things, we'd be seeing people using this capability already.

The main hold up here is technology advancement, not quite where it needs to be yet, but the field is showing the progress needed to reach it.
Apple's hardware tax funds their R&D, which is why Apple develops stuff like the M2 ultra when the Intel and Linux OEMs sit around waiting for Intel or Qualcomm to shit out some useless chip that's undifferentiated.
You mean something the Quest does already?
Everyone thought 3.4k was just a rumor and it will be lower.

A good experience is still expensive and even apple only made it with 2h runtime.

It will take perhaps more or something really revolutionary.

After all you need 4 to watch anything as a family and people don't even mind watching movies on their phones!

Apple also has to believe for so long in this while not being successful with it (my guess).
Given the $3500 price tag + US only release, it looks like Apple also doesn't think that this product will strongly appeal to the market broader than enthusiasts. Perhaps the first version is more of an experimental product with no high expectations, so we probably need to see if it draws enough attentions from enthusiasts and generates a good level of tech hypes here.
I feel like way too many of my notifications are iOS letting me know I'm being tracked by AirTags belonging to people I know. It'll be so nice to clear those out.
If I need reading glasses, will I be able to use this thing?
Training is unlikely for most things but you could probably run a trained model on it that needs a lot of RAM.
visionOS UI unsurprisingly still feels very tethered to a stationary AR model (i.e. mostly on couch / at table use cases). Of course hard to tell without trying it, but even if this had full day battery and wasn't a glowing please rob me sign, wearing this while navigating some outdoor spatial environment with the current OS seems like a great way to break an ankle. Maybe they have some gesture or accelerometer-based trigger to do the equivalent of Mission Control's "desktop" to minimize everything except for the camera pass-through so a person can safely walk around their house.

Seems like if it is eventually going to become outdoor-friendly OS, it would need to minimally be multi-mode for stationary vs. moving user, where when moving there's more minimal overlay (maybe like Anon [1] hopefully minus the dystopian hellscape).

3D camera + spatial audio is probably most interesting near term thing for me in this version, will be interesting to see how people use that to record and share immersive experiences.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuaa4hJVC5s
Disney has nothing to lose here, and Apple can take a failure, too.

Apple has produced plenty of devices that didn't pan out.

Let's not get too hyped away.
I'm more excited to use this for games and VRChat. My Valve Index needs my whole gaming desktop to power it which is actually pretty much the price of an Apple Vision Pro.
This is also now the most private display. You can work in public with no risk of leaks.
It's also the "entry point" price for a HoloLens (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/hololens/buy). Businesses will spend that on an AR/VR device that adds value to their use-cases. It seems pretty clear this is not intended for "mass market consumer adoption" at this point in time.
The neural implant episode of Black Mirror has a much better UX. You can help the mass and micro surveillance effort without the uncomfortable headset and be present with the kids.
how exactly was binance prohibited from registering itself as an exchange in the US?
Games have talked about "enemy AI" for 25+ years. Hell, Halo 1 was considered revolutionary for its advanced enemy AI. Was that a hype word? Was that an incorrect misnomer?
This is about the web version of Photoshop, there is no mmap there.
this was how javascript was created
> it's just that other manufacturers do not do that.

Yeah. So it's just that people don't complain about other manufacturers.
First piece of advice I ever got in Finance was to never say anything you wouldn't want your mother seeing on the frontpage of tomorrow's paper.
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It’s like the Ohio of Europe
In theory this does not require software developers (other than Apple's) to do anything special to support it either. visionOS has windows and kb/mouse support which means there is potentially no barrier to entry.

I'm guessing "full-screen" or similar deep integrations with visionOS will require some custom code. But it seems like most sites + apps could potentially "just work".
Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems you roughly get "lisp-ness" by taking any textual data format and defining a programming language syntax in terms of that data format. I could make a JSON-based language that looks like:

[
// define some_fun(x) => let y=2;let z=y*3;return x+z
{"some_fun": [["x"], [
{"y": 2,
"z": ["*", "y", 3]},
["+", "x", "z"]
]},
// call it
["some_fun", 100]
]

Here I'm using JSON dictionaries to bind variables, and lists for everything else (instruction sequences, argument lists, etc.). Now I can quote stuff to define JSON data, or otherwise define programs.

I'm not a lisper but it seems what's special about lisp is it defines its programs in a generic data format.
Google Maps has had offline maps support on iOS/Android for at least a decade now.
I was half expecting them to announce that with a flourish like it was some big innovation they came up with on their own.
iPhone price went up with subsequent generations. So I wouldn't count on Apple to drop the price at the near future.