skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Absolutely a loss leader for Bloomberg. Whatever advertising they get is de minimis, I frequently see house ads for multiple hours when I have it on in the morning. It's subsidized by subscriptions to the terminal. I don't know CNBC financials but it has higher ratings than Bloomberg TV and has the heft and drag of NBC to pull it into cable lineups.

As for CNN…its first twenty years or so were mostly great hard core news from around the world. A real shift happened post 2000, whether that was due to the cataclysmic AOL Time Warner merger/demerger or changing attitudes or just the rise of Fox News but CNN gradually then rapidly morphed away from hard news to fluffy content and politics 7x24. It used to be that you could watch Headline News to catch up on what's going on in 5-10 minutes and then CNN for more in depth coverage. HNN stopped being useful early in the 2000s. CNNfn was ok for the few years it existed but CNN didn't have the financial news depth that CNBC had.
> So it's just that people don't complain about other manufacturers.

Because nobody expects the quality from these manufacturers like they do from Apple, so they don't get uppity about the price.

They want Apple quality without Apple premium, or "to have their cake and eat it too"
It could be both? A wider outage at a high traffic time.

HN is timing out constantly for me. So are some Microsoft services. But then some other websites are loading fine...
Microsoft maps (prior to even Bing, I forget the official name) had downloaded maps back in 2007 on Windows Mobile 6.1.

Apple is a bit late to the game here, but obviously this isn't a make it or break it feature for the success of a mobile platform!
Exactly ! The social stuff requires a network effect... hilarious that the makers of Facebook bet their chips on the same bet as their existing products. Apple knows it doesn't need groups of people to use this together, just enough early adopters to help pay for (and more importantly help guide) the user research and material advancement.
60hz is 16.7ms per frame. How are you getting 8?
Reddit described the Reddit model such that moderators "own" subreddits, just like you "own" your Facebook profile. They're reneging on that. It's as if Facebook is saying it is becoming a telephone directory so it will force every profile to have an accurate picture of your face
So if I get this thing I don't need to return to the office right? /s
Weirdly, there was actually a period of history where this was normal.

During the Carboniferous period 300 million years ago trees just fell over and lay there because nothing had evolved to decay them yet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carboniferous
Here is the fuller playbook of Chokepoint 2.0 from Cooper Kirk: https://www.cooperkirk.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Operat...
This is not an Excel error. It's user error. Don't blame software like it's some force of nature that you can't control.
Yes you can use all of those with the included remote which is easy to use and quite responsive. And all of them (minus Netflix) surface the shows you're watching up to "watch now" so you don't have to dig into any of them to continue watch your shows. I'm not aware of any use of an iphone which makes using the Apple TV easier.
and most of that is manual labor by mods (speaking from experience, yes, it sometimes it's better, sometimes worse, the UX is constantly horrible though - no notifications to mods, just strange "deleted by reddit" corpses)
For the facetime part, you are seeing people WITHOUT the VR headset, what will they/you see if all is using it!?
The front screen is brilliant. If you commute by train it will be socially acceptable to wear the headset. Apart from frequent flyers, millions of people will by the headset for the illusion of private space.
I think you might be over-extrapolating your own POV. I have a mediocre soundbar and can afford the Vision Pro. I'm not likely to upgrade my soundbar anytime soon (I don't really care), but I'm very likely to buy a Vision Pro.

can't imagine people will only be buying it for movie watching.
I'm with you on this. I see these as a wonderful option for being productive just about anywhere, if the experience is actually what was demoed.
This is not an Excel error. It's user error. Don't blame software like it's some force of nature that you can't control. Confusing names is not something Excel can prevent.
I'm guessing you don't know much about the subject, and didn't read too deeply into it. Third party apps are only a part of the problem (which you're also misrepresenting), and not the one referenced in the comment you answered to. I suggest following the links in the post to understand the full depth of the problem.
This isn't an Ask HN. It is just a solicitation for your newsletter.
GentooX was fun. Still miss it a bit.
2.5x the pixels is more like 1.5x the resolution in terms of the smallest features that can be seen - remmber that displays are two-dimensional and in order to halve the width of the smallest discernable detail like say a line you need to double the pixels in both directions for a total of four times as many pixels. On the other hand, it is going to be close to 2.5x the rendering cost.
I mean its pretty clear how this stuff goes by now.

1. Tech already exists. Not really widely adopted since its super niche.

2. Apple comes along, takes existing tech, makes it sleek, gives it modern processing power, integrates it into the apple ecosystem, puts everything behind a paywall

3. Because Apple is cool and has brand recognition, people adopt the tech and start using it.

4. Non Apple cheaper alternatives eventually pop up.

Rinse and repeat. Happened with iPod, iPhone, iWatch, e.t.c
Techcrunch concluded "The price reveal turned any ‘would buy’ in the room into a ‘definitely not’ without hesitation."

Anyways, bookmark the threads of folks calling an Apple product dead on arrival for a revisit in a few years.

The ipod, the iphone, the watch, the airpods... they've had a pretty good record and almost all these have had harsh criticism out the gate (while then going on to absolutely PRINT money for apple).

Apple is sitting on lots of cash and investment with operating cash flow of something like another $100B a year? Why aren't they allowed to take some risks on products like this. Facebook certainly has burnt billions in a similar space.
Totally. Meta framed any VR device as a metaverse device, which I have no desire to ever participate in. I just want to use "VR" the same way I use my laptop.
It should be concerning for google that, 25 years since PageRank, search is once again ripe for disruption.
I think the big differentiators are:

1. The avatar and face scanning for video chat
2. Screen quality, pixels shouldn’t be viewable.

Meta could copy both with time but the 2nd just requires more expensive hardware. I never liked the meta avatars and it looks like the apple ones could work with any chat app?
I really like the troubleshooting advice for the installation of DoctorGPT:"These instructions are long, so ensure you follow them carefully. It is suggested you use ChatGPT to assist you with any errors. Simply paste in the entire content of this README into ChatGPT before asking your question about the install process."
I don't think it was virtual. Looked like a real keyboard on the table
VR screens eliminate the eyes' ability to focus naturally.
Unless this devices solves that problem, I find it hard to believe it will be comfortable to wear for many hours per day.

And if the device is not comfortable to wear for longer durations, then it doesn't make sense that it's priced as premium work equipment.
Did you miss the massive Final Cut Pro project window in VR, or does that not count?
Fully 3D apps and content are definitely supported, just not emphasized a ton in the keynote. I expect third party devs to create tons of cool stuff for it beyond the basic 2D iPad apps!
Before you do this, create a new account for each subreddit through a separate Tor session for each and different email address (or none) then add them as moderators. Gives you a chance that Reddit won't delete these and you'll still have moderation access afterwards
can't tell if this is satire or not, but assuming it's not, have you seen young children with their rubber-bumpered iPads these days? parents let them take them out in public just to shut them up, and they're always on the damn things, learning to tap and swipe to consume mindless content from well before their brains have fully formed. this is where personal computers have gone: from being useful devices that can be used (and programmed!) to produce or consume content, to being no-brain-required content pumps that you can use to turn your brain off and fill it full of inane drivel.

but I'm at least half-certain your post is satire, so...
HomePod

Pippin

Apple III

Apple Lisa

iPod HiFi
No, it's just HN going crazy for shiny new Apples.
The actual concept of VR was basically done the second the Vive came out. Now you can have really good immersion for a Flight Simulator game that won't come out for a few years and nobody really knew it would happen yet, and the couple driving simulation games on PC that somehow haven't died, and a smattering of immersive FPS games.

Nothing else really benefits from the increased immersion, and everything struggles with the discomfort, nausea, cost, loneliness, and extra development effort of VR.

VR isn't the next generation of graphics, it's just the display equivalent of a really powerful direct drive racing wheel with load cell brake or that airbus branded joystick that costs $500 bucks. It's for turbo nerds.
> There are plenty of AR/VR headsets out there that have the same feature set and are far cheaper

Can you list some of these far cheaper products that have the same feature set?
This is the first time I have been excited about XR - it feels right. Seeing it makes me feel like how I saw technology as a kid, sort of like a magic parallel world.

I think a spatial UI will sit much better with people, our brain obviously evolved to manipulate stuff in 3-dimensions. It's very exciting to see where this will go.
I think CXL devices in general will become more and more common given that other players on the hardware side are now supporting CXL 1.1 / 2.0 protocols (Sapphire Rapids / 4th Gen EPYC[2]) and it's a way to scale memory past the limitations of a single machine and the number of memory slots / DIMM slots.

For now it's PCIe 5.0, but given that PCIe 6.0[2] will come around with PAM4 signalling, FEC and FLIT mode on CXL 3.0 spec it may be not be as bad or slow with this future configuration.

[1] https://www.amd.com/en/press-releases/2022-11-10-offering-un...
[2] https://www.rambus.com/blogs/pcie-6/
Apple Vision pro has 3x more pixels than the Quest 3. Cannot say anything about the resolution without comparing exact display sizes though
The product looks really good. Hope someone also starts selling a "dumb" version (no cameras, sensors, speakers, external display, etc.) with the same quality internal display. It would be great to have a large high-quality display that can be used in a reclined position.
> Macs are PCs.

This is just being pedantic. "Mac vs PC" is just a widely known way to distinguish between Mac's and non-Mac's.

> And looking at the Framework laptop shop right now, I see a 16GB DDR4 DIMM for $60, and you can throw in a standard M.2 storage module. Maybe Framework is just singularly better, but that's still a reason to not buy Apple for me.

Ok now instead of looking at number of GB of RAM you get per price and show me quality and efficiency between these. I'm no hardware nerd/genius but from what I understand the Apple Silicon was out performing even what Apple CLAIMED in their keynotes and that caused everyone to scramble because they couldn't sit on their thumbs anymore. (Cough Intel)

So yeah, you may get same numbers of RAM, but that RAM isn't equal.
This reminds me of the Excel scoring error by NASA that impacted where the Space Shuttles would be retired. Basically costing the National Museum of the U.S. Air Force an orbiter (though the NASA Administrator says it wouldn't have made a difference in the end). It was a bad enough screwup that Congress complained and NASA's OIG filed a report on the incident. It's a pretty interesting read:
https://oig.nasa.gov/docs/Review_NASAs_Selection_Display_Loc...
Apple themselves clearly know their bad reputation in the gaming community, and their lock down model for selling software will also not be embraced by many gamers. In this respect a $399 Steamdeck is a better device than Apple’s piece with 10x the price.
yes, it is a common theme among the "woke": Black people score lower on school math tests, therefore math is racist.
> "is there another explanation?"

It's aliens. They literally announced they have been reverse engineering space ships from aliens from outer space. I mean I don't think it's true but it's what they announced.
Annnd they just announced multiple timers.
I am facing a similar dilemma. Lately, I have been writing about data structures and the "original" aspect has really taken over my writing. Breaking down the content into a readable format and complementing it with intuitive figures can become a challenge. I have two almost-ready drafts sitting on my computer, but I cannot gather the courage to post them as I feel like they might be missing more analysis. I am not sure if this is necessarily good or bad. I have been trying to treat my blog as something I enjoy, with content that will still be relevant in a decade or so. Perhaps, I need to take Julia's advice and write more boring posts, like some of my favorite things in my bashrc.
Brian’s newsletter is one of the few I actually subscribe to. Thank you for these links. From the posts it actually looks like you’d probably pay more if they were botnet shenanigan’s.
It's useful for folks currently running Intel Macs (or considering a used one). For other folks, not as useful since the last Intel MacBook only ran 10th gen. As an example, the top end 13 inch 2020 MacBook Pro used an i7-1068NG7. A current Intel i7-1360p will get about 2.4x the multi-core performance of that old 10th gen chip, even outperforming an M2 in most multi-core workloads.
This was specifically addressed in the presentation. Eye tracking will not be shared with apps.
Unless I misunderstand, it's less than a frame at 60 Hz (= 16.7 ms per frame).
I don't like Macos. Windows without games and Linux without deep customisation, variety of choice, and visibility. It's not bad, just useless to me. It only runs well on very specific, overpriced, unrepairable hardware too. Lame.

The hardware is okay, but overrated, there are far sturdier laptops, especially for protecting the display.

The only macbook I ever had had soldered on RAM. Even the PS4 has a replaceable HDD. Being able to replace the storage is not impressive, it's table stakes. I want a laptop for which every sub-board is replacable(without soldering or a heat gun) so I can repair it indefinitely. Apple also have more expensive parts. This counts as less repairability to me.

I want an upgradable laptop because I like laptops. And I like fast laptops even more. Upgrading the laptop instead of replacing it means less money spent on parts I don't need to replace, meaning I can either save money or spend more on performance.
The average American or British living room with even a cheap surround system is going to run rings around anything in-ear or on-ear.

There's many reasons that people warn newbies not to mix or master on cans and to use speakers.

For people who care about going beyond stereo, budget is going to be a much larger problem for most folks than space or technical knowhow. And anybody who cares about going beyond stereo probably cares about quality.
Its safe for people that uses glasses like me? How this works?
> To be fair when the iPhone 1 came out nobody really said they need it in their lives vs a Nokia or BB

That's not how I remember it, that original keynote was magical. The benefits of the iPhone over current devices (both phones and MP3 players) were crystal-clear, the only damper being high price together with tying it to an AT&T contract.

While impressive technologically, this on the other hand gives rather creepy vibes - the whole presentation looks like a Black Mirror episode.
I came here to say "can we worry about building programming languages in twenty-four years instead, please?". Someone who has gone through your list is exactly who I want actually building the next generation programming languages. Of course your last question is the best one:

> eh, why bother

This is absolutely the question you need a deep answer for. You need a problem that is burning you up and whose only solution is a new programming language. This might never happen. If it ever does, you're the person to do it, exactly because of all the ups and downs and half-started ideas you've thrown away. But you're right: the "why bother" stage is not to be ignored. It's the most important one.
EU lawmakers, famously known for being the pinnacle of The Will of the People
I'm trying to bring Intercom-like level of automation to regular WhatsApp and WhatsApp Business [1].

Bootstrapping it from the start, a few customers, going slow but always forward.

I got rejected by YC after after being invited to the interview but I decided to continue bootstrapping it and maybe apply again later after getting to clear PMF.

[1] https://2chat.co/
It would very obviously be useful for work if you can actually get high res, effectively unlimited monitor space. Maybe not for everyone, but people already spend $3500+ on monitor setups somewhat regularly (and employers definitely do this). Apple themselves sell a single monitor that costs $2300 when fully spec'd out (5k, but the point is that they know what people spend on monitors). I can't figure out why that wasn't the highlight of the demo, since that's just very clearly the easiest way to sell a $3500 device with this specific set of features.

The recording video of a kid's birthday was one of the most ridiculous thing's I've ever seen. I'd maybe record my kid with something like this every once in a while, but I certainly wouldn't be wearing ski goggles while he blows out candles.
Fortunately paper filing is still free and doesn't require trusting a third party servers with your tax and personal identity information.
I feel like announcing/releasing Logic Pro X for iPad just prior to the Apple Vision announcement was not a coincidence.
Oh good, just wait until you get regular headaches from attempting to decipher the text on your virtual screen. It works terribly. VR is an awful, desperate, not fit for purpose replacement for even a single 1080p monitor.
Sure, you're totally right. But look at the lawsuit. The item you listed is one of many. You have to see that this is part of a political strategy. Look at Coinbase...
You can pair a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, it was shown in the keynote.
oh great. As if the scientific community wasn't corrupt and perversely incentivized enough.
Benthos: Open-source stream processing tool
I've been building https://serverfluent.com on a side. No PMF yet, but I'm planning to go harder on the marketing side soon since the market is already validated as there are a couple of well established competitors. Happy to chat about this nonetheless!
Just commenting to leave my footprint for when people look back on the discussion a few years from now.

The high price seems like it'll be a barrier to adoption, which will limit the amount of developers willing to invest time in developing for a closed platform.

It'll probably take off in the furry / kink scene. The real killer app will have something to do with sex or porn, and Apple will try to kill it off or refuse to acknowledge it.

On release day some couple will record a first-person POV sex video and upload it to a major porn site. If the spatial video recording experience is really good it might take off in the porn space.
I’m seeing slowness across-the-board today
But it fertilizes the market for what kind of developers? Currently I see no real convincing reason why this should be substantially different than existing headsets except for a better operating system experience.

I can see this being an exceptional gaming device if the screen specs are anything to go by. But any game that would justify spending the substantial premium for that device would likely need an extra PC with really beefy specs, bumping the price up even higher, further limiting the target audience.

I've read other peoples thoughts about 3D modelling usecases. For most CAD related use-cases this thing is almost definitely overspeced considering the shitty textures most CAD prototypes utilize. Maybe it would be cool for architecture studios, but thats also a fairly limited audience.

I'm sure developers will come up with very creative use-cases for that device, but I cant imagine most of them being as impactful in the average persons everyday life as the introduction of the iPhone was. What I'm very certain is that this device is launching at a bad time economically. 3.5k is a significant expense, even for people with higher incomes. In a time where disposable incomes shrink and uncertainty is continuing to stress many employees, I don't think as many people would be willing to drop the 3.5k on that device as maybe 3 years ago.

But hey, maybe this comment will age as poorly as the famous dropbox one.
They have eye focus tracking for sure in this, so maybe they can render in adaptive resolution mode je only highest rest in center of vision? Who knows?
I agree with you on the engineering except the ridiculous notch situation and the soldered on SSDs, both are unforgivable.

The only saving grace for Apple here is that all other manufacturers outcompete them on the unforgivable sins front.
High compared to the Mac Studio, I'd say. $3,000 extra for the exact same specs and an extra 6 PCI slots. I guess if you need them, that's the cost of entry, but $500/slot seems like a tough sell.
For those of us who can't be bothered to watch through the whole announcement to find where they say it, what's the refresh rate of this thing?
But there were already tons of people using earbuds, headphones, laptops, and monitors. They brought a high-end product to an already mature market. Whereas here, they are introducing a very expensive device into a segment, VR goggles, that has flopped over and over again with consumers everywhere. Apple might be able to pull off their magic, who knows, but it's way more dubious than with the other things you mentioned.
You don't really need to clear an area for this because you'll be using passthrough 99% of the time and won't hit stuff. You'll be able to run around a cluttered room, pick up things, interact with people, type on keyboards, etc. without taking the headset off!
Probably yes, we were talking about the success of the product not the society. That is another topic where we can also include mobile phones, streaming services, etc.
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