skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
What's the motivation for Stack Overflow to allow AI-generated content in the first place?

These AI models were likely heavily trained on SO data, so any LLM-based answer is merely a regurgitation of thousands of human answers before it.

In addition, asking a question on Stack Overflow and having some LLM respond seems to me like the equivalent of asking GPT-X.Y directly, albeit with extra steps.
https://github.com/countmodula/VCVRackLunettaModula
Some people do. Around me it felt like it was a very quick way to signal that you weren't a fucking crazy person at the start of the pandemic, and then it became political (jfc), and kept on being a social signal.

If I had to guess though I'd say most people mask up out of pragmatism, its kind of insane that our previous practice was to just pretend we weren't sick hard enough that we stopped being infectious.
Warming: Kaspersky is a fierce supporter of the Putin's fascist regime. His company is known for working for FSB. Think twice before running any software created by them on your computer.

I would recommend to fork it, thoroughly analyse every line of code and run it on a dedicated computer without internet. Always keep in mind you can't trust them at all.
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That's the thing, A) they might not be, B) once we start mixing human answers with AI on SO, it's value as a data source for future LLM train runs will decrease.

The tech is moving at breakneck pace, and in general I'm loving it. But let's not hurry the adoption of AI too much
Ask HN: Are Bill Gates,Bezos and Zuckerberg responsible poor quality software
An old developer told me that Gates showed the world that it is possible to make money with poorly written software, and that Bezos and Zuckerberg have followed his lead. Since then, software quality gone downhill.Do you agree with this? If not, why?
ChatGPT Plugin Exploit Explained: Prompt Injection to Accessing Private Data
Etymologically, they sure do. For all of its warts, elisp has not only many users but many programmers who have created some pretty complicated stuff. It's definitely a contender.
I was going to have them build a rudimentary octave (12 note keyboard segment) but that has been something I’ve been trying to sketch out as well.
Sorry to hear that. How does a $48k bill happen with insurance after the No Surprises act?
>Today, unless in a secured EM cage, there really aren't that many places where you can be certain you can have a private conversation, face to face.

Even then the assurance is only so high. Governments operate what are called SCIFs, Secure Compartmentalized Information Facilities, where they not only conduct physical exclusion and EM hardening but also acoustic damping so that an adversary can't, in theory, listen through the walls with a fancy stethoscope or a laser microphone.

There's a scene from Neuromancer where Molly and Case pay another character for a private discussion room, which is basically a cyberpunk SCIF. I've always found that scene oddly prescient; privacy today is quickly becoming a luxury.
> Taleb has argued that our increasingly unstable world is the paradoxical result of humankind’s efforts to control it with technology, quantitative models, and ubiquitous just-in-time optimization, resulting in an ever-more-complex, human-built, fragile society susceptible to shocks. Extreme events “are necessarily increasing as a result of complexity, interdependence between parts, globalization and the beastly thing called ‘efficiency’ that makes people now sail too close to the wind,” he wrote in his 2012 book “Antifragile.”

When the market can respond to events faster, efficiency increases. But, as anyone who's done any synthesizer can tell you, if you have faster feedback loops, you also increase the potential amount of resonance in the system.

The market is a highly interrelated graph of feedback loops. As those get faster and with less damping, we should expect wilder and wilder oscillations.
Google has GCP and Bard(also in GCP) as avenues to commercialize this research.

It’s been slow going but I do think we will see a cultural shift towards releasing more products backed by research like this.
This arrangement shouldn't be legal. It basically allows the creation of corporate dictatorships and makes a mockery of the 'public company' concept.
HN isn't that enlightened. Some of the dumbest takes I hope to ever see have been here.
AMD just announced they’re going after Nvidia over the next five years.
Can answers be edited by the community to correct any hallucinations? Or is there just an outright ban on removing AI content?
HN is for chatting but SO is for storing answers. Why moderators can not de-hallicinate the answers? Probably it needs some time before SO will became the only source of autogenerated answers on SO.
So it has been only a couple months and AI spam is causing problems for submissions in communities from StackOverflow to Sci-Fi publishing to photo contests. The AIs can overrun all the CAPTCHAs too.

So, this is just the beginning. What will happen next year on HN? Anyone can deploy a swarm of bots
> It’s irrelevant for the rank and file

It’s absolutely not. It is used for all sorts of things, including PTO accrual, bonuses, multi-year tenure benefits, etc.
I enjoy programming in C a lot, though I wish they would fix C's biggest mistake[1].

[1] <https://digitalmars.com/articles/C-biggest-mistake.html>
depends if the answers are better than the ones by humans
We don’t really need a special place in line, right? We’re right here and our economy is biased toward high-value-add applications so we should be a natural partner.

I mean, they might (honestly, reasonably) be inclined to give us an artificially bad place in line, given the fuckery we’ve gotten up to on their continent, but it would probably be a decision to prioritize history and politics over economics. Or they might want to own battery manufacturing as a whole, I’m which case… fine, whatever, it would be nice to manufacture them in the US, but we should be happy with buying from in our general neighborhood.
My recollection of the great migration to reddit was because Digg was crashing. That's probably the only reason Reddit has stayed up as long as it has, it's back end eng has held up. I'm open to being schooled here.
It is most certainly a predicament. If people feel like they can freely post ChatGPT content, it adds enormous strain on making sure that the solution provided actually works. This then has to be done by moderators (with experience) or other users who land on the site. If it is the latter, people might get frustrated that answers are wrong, devaluing SO's value overall.

In a nutshell, allowing AI in its current iteration will create more problems when it comes to moderation, content quality, and the sanity of sites users - pretty much.

Quite a lot of variables to find common ground on this one, but I think StackOverflow should not allow AI content for the time being.
Considering how painful it is to even configure Oracle client software, I cannot disagree more. I'd much rather deal with PostgreSQL any given day of the week, and should you need much more than what's in the box, that's the point that the six figure consultants and DBAs earn their income. Oracle (and DB2) are just a massive mess to actually work with.

PostgreSQL is really nice in terms of dev features. MS-SQL is nice in terms of Ops features. And even Firebird is easier to use in practice than Oracle/DB2. Don't add friction to your life when you don't need to. The only place I've ever worked that chose Oracle over MS-SQL or PostgreSQL was a larger company where the Oracle DBA team was generally easier to work with.
They knew I was in Iran. None of us knew it's illegal to hire contractors we just thought it's some banking access issue. Also it was a small amount and not a systemic thing I was the only one.
Pentagon Now Actively Hunting for UFOs with Purpose-Built Sensors
> ORMs can't use DB specific features

This is technically false. There is no technical reason an ORM couldn't use DB-specific features. It's also practically false. Have a look at https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/4.2/ref/databases/

Django's ORM will do quite clever stuff, specific to your database (eg, if you're using Postgres, it will create additional indexes using appropriate PSQL operator classes).

> I can insert an entry and return the generated ID in a single query. ORMs can't do that

This is also false. Calling .save() on a model will issue an INSERT statement, then the ORM will assign the auto-incremented PK to the "id" property of the model without issuing any further queries. https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/models/instances/?...

> I can also upsert entries in a single statement. ORMs can't do that.

This is also technically and practically false. There is no technical reason an ORM couldn't do an upsert with a single query (granted that the database itself supports it). Practically, while Django's ORM itself can't do this, you could easily use django-postgres-extras (which is just an extension to the ORM's capabilities) to issue an "ON CONFLICT target", which will achieve an upsert with a single query: https://django-postgres-extra.readthedocs.io/en/master/confl...
Why can’t moderators on HN deal with a torrent of AI generated comment?

Mission has been f**ing accomplished and now we will be enjoyin the xkcd dystopia: https://xkcd.com/810/
It definitely only works with certain Intel NICs. It doesn't require OS cooperation because the main purpose of AMT is to recover a broken OS. I think the NIC effectively has two host interfaces so that one can be used by the OS and the other can be used by the ME. Due to network authentication and such I think the same IP and MAC address is shared by the OS and AMT which is of course a rampant layering violation.
> This is a legal / law-enforcement story. How does is possibly affect your views on the science.

No evidence of spread was presented. Meaning, although there’s claims this spreads easily, no one appears to have caught it in years? Unless there’s something weird going on, you’d think they’d be pointing out all the people she got sick
There are lots of reasons I continue to mask that have nothing to do with COVID.
1) To keep the sun off my face.
2) if there is a lot of pollen or dust in the air.
2) If I want to avoid long chats at the checkout counter that waste my time.
3) If I want to avoid having creeps tell me to smile or catcall.
Well we have to start somewhere. When you first put your foot on the gas the acceleration comes first, then the velocity, then position. Poo-pooing the initial acceleration because you haven't moved very far yet is rather short-sighted.

Heavy industry isn't a freaking SAAS startup with an indoor playground and free beer where profit isn't expected because you're just going for a buyout. It takes many years if not decades to build out brand new physical supply chains on any meaningful scale. Yes we're just getting started, but without this metric we'd be going nowhere.
I’d disagree that you can find them for less. If they are better they would probably demand and get equal or more.
If they're that good, why wouldn't they go to another company who is willing to pay more?
Well, Tapbots launched Ivory, a totally different app based loosely on Tweetbot, but it required a substantial investment to design and engineer. It's not like Tweetbot just started loading Mastodon one day. In fact, paying Tweetbot customers were left with a nonfunctional app, and many got prorated refunds from Apple.

Ivory has been well-received, but who knows what the numbers are compared to Tweetbot. So this was not a "just swap the API" slam dunk.
Regarding slowness, are there no better primitives available here than setBitByIndex and set_pixel? You end up doing lots of calls per pixel, reading bytes, modifying some bits in them, writing the bytes back over and over.

For example, if you worked on monochrome bitplanes (8 pixels per byte) for each of R, G and B, you would handle 8 pixels at a time by just writing the 3 bytes. IFF ILBM is a file format (supported e.g. by ImageMagick) for sharing such image data: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ILBM
I'm sure there are thousands of people already working at netflix who'd take the job for $500k/year, and hundreds of thousands more outside the company. They won't have the current ceo's "proven track-record" but I'm quite certain a few of them would do a better job than the current ceo has.
Suppose you are right. If the near-the-money options are correctly modeled, how will you make money on them?
It's hard to compose (you could call it metaprogramming maybe, since you're writing SQL programs with a program), too.

You know the problem: take this query but with this extra table joined and this other condition in the WHERE clause.

Solutions exist, but they mostly are married to ORMs, thus the frustration. But I'm confident that "either raw paleolithic SQL or clunky ORMs" is a false dichotomy (and I've written a thing in PHP over a decade ago to scratch my own itch and compose SQL, so I just know for a fact how false it is).
Who cares about provenance? If the answer is usefull it is. Don't think the "humans" post bogus "quick google search" answers on SO for rep farming? Have you accessed the site in the last 5 years?
I think that would go from legitimate news reporting to whatever it's called when you just want an excuse to luxuriate in hating someone.

Maybe she's a worthless drunk shitbag, maybe she's just not all there and doesn't believe or really understand the problem.

I don't think it matters too much except when I want to use it as ammo. If she was religious, and I am not, awesome vindicating example for my side I can pull out the next time I want one.

Well I don't like how much I would like that, so I don't think it's very valid, and maybe it's correct that they don't go all "let's lift up this rock and gawp at the ugly bugs all crawling around in there".

Maybe they have no choice. Maybe the police and hospitals carefully don't disclose anything like that for exactly that reason.
I'd agree that age by itself isn't a problem. It's the correlates. Younger people are more likely to be using the mobile app, where the engagement is lower quality. They are less likely to have completed their formal education, let alone to have attended college. They are more likely to practice an intolerant form of politics and activism, which makes discussion on certain subjects nearly impossible outside of niche subs.

> Both of these indicators of engagement are inherently flawed because they incentivize quantity over quality.

The karma system has other arguably worse side effects. It incentivizes people to downvote things they disagree with and upvote things they agree with. I'd wager many of Reddit's longtime users think this is the point of karma, rather than a signifier of a post's effort and/or quality.

I agree that the incentive structure needs to change if Reddit or any competitor can remain viable places for discussion.
Render a neural network into CUDA/HIP code
We talk about job disruption, GPT has SO's number.
They should have never shut their job board. They have painted themselves into a tiny corner now and OpenAI + others are coming for their lunch.
Best-in-Class Open Source Generative Models
Either answers are good or not.

It doesn't matter if they're generated by a 13-year-old in their bedroom, someone studying CS at university, a well-respected IC at a top tech company... or an AI.

If answers are good, keep them. If they're bad, downvote them. If they're redundant or off-topic or gibberish, delete them.

And to those asking why you would ever want AI-generated content on StackOverflow when you could just go to ChatGPT/Copilot/etc... it's because of all of the commentary. People are giving different answers, arguing the pros and cons, pointing out errors... all of the discussion around a StackOverflow question is usually just as valuable as any given answer, if not more so.

Of course, I understand that AI-powered accounts that can ask/answer hundreds of questions a minute are a problem simply because moderation can't keep up with them. But StackOverflow already has a lot of limits just for human accounts -- lots of actions you can't take until you've contributed certain amounts of value. Just extend these protections to do things like rate-limiting and so forth, to ensure that the normal ratio of content submitted vs. moderated stays constant and manageable.
The current title is “StackOverflow petition to allow remove AI generated content”, which sounds… uh… AI-generated.
Bellbottoms or drip coat?
If you have an iPhone or a modern Pixel, you already have a dedicated AI accelerator in your pocket.
I've always kind of wondered why reddit (and other social media sites like twitter) don't send ads in api calls.
This is a research blog post, similar to a published academic paper. Not everything is a product, that's how research works.
Before the migration from Digg, reddit was full of libertarians. Actually, same with Digg, in 2003.
It's not FUD, they're not stating it as a fact, they're asking for an analysis of AEB in lots of different situations and not just overall.
Before jumping to conclusions, be sure to check out this context:

https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/389582/what-is-the-...

TL; DR - the policy is “we can’t tell if something is AI generated, so hard to justify removal on just that basis.”

> We recently performed a set of analyses on the current approach to AI-generated content moderation. The conclusions of these analyses strongly indicate to us that AI-generated content is not being properly identified across the network, and that the potential for false-positives is very high. Through no fault of moderators' own, we also suspect that there have been biases for or against residents of specific countries as a potential result of the heuristics being applied to these posts. Finally, internal evidence strongly suggests that the overapplication of suspensions for AI-generated content may be turning away a large number of legitimate contributors to the site.
Good to know, since I’m pretty set with this habit now.
It's not really a question of whether communities have a "right" so much as that I don't think it's something that Reddit should support, but they provide moderator tools to do this. Worse yet, they bring this problem upon themselves by making it ridiculously easy to setup dummy Reddit accounts and can be active in a very short period of time, which practically encourages ban evasion. Instead of allowing innocent users to face guilt by association, Reddit should add a lot more friction to creating new accounts and add read-only period.

> My buddies and I have no obligation to let you hang out with us if we don't like your politics.

There's nothing wrong with this in principal, except the default behavior for subreddits is to allow literally anyone to "join" in a single click. Those people aren't all your "buddies". A community can become private, but this also means not being visible to anyone except members. This creates a weird dichotomy where either a community is full-blown open and is encouraged to use other people's subscriptions against them, or to be invite only but few want to join because they can't see the activity of the site.

> I certainly don't care for the way Reddit runs its "communities". They are, in practice, run by a variety of petty tyrants.

That's exactly why the guilt-by-association approach frequently goes overboard.

> The solution to that is not, in my opinion, to increase centralized control even more.

Agreed. Some better approaches would be to allow a middle-ground for communities to be more exclusive and for sock puppet accounts to no longer be piss easy to create.
My apologies, I added my email to my profile and thought it was public. Didn't see the note about adding it to the 'about' section. I've updated that now and I'll email you.
I know this is supposed to be a "self-awareness jab" at HN commenters, but you should really take a look at the stock market. 7 of the top 10 companies by market value are American tech companies. If anything, American IT workers are severely underpaid compared to the profits these companies are raking in.
I have the opposite problem. Most business software is boring as hell, and I just want to have something cool to work with.
I'll never forget the hate I got for letting my kids enjoy themselves at a playground OUTSIDE without those fucking nutty cloth masks...One thing 80's\90's punk-rock taught me was how to stand out in public. Served my kids emotional and physical development well during that hysteria.
> I can remember scientists being accused of spreading "misinformation" for proposing that airborne spread best fit the available data.

This is a much lower bar. You can always find a crank on twitter accusing something of being misinformation.

The original claim I responded to was that the medical establishment claimed airborne transmission was impossible. However, the actual take from the medical establishment was significantly less confident of that claim (emphasis added):

> Airborne spread was “not believed to be a major driver of transmission based on available evidence,” the report [from May 2020] stated.
Nonsense. Executive pay should be based on the logarithm of the market cap, not scale linearly.
What We Talk About When We Talk About Tunguska
I wonder how this strategy is affected by the 2008 experience. You see, back then all sorts of, frankly, illegal measures were used to prevent those who bet against the housing market to cash out. Markets were frozen, contracts and even stocks artificially priced, for most investors right until the contracts were worthless due to bankruptcy, as pointed out in "the Big Short". Yes, VERY few investors did exactly the right thing at exactly the right time and got lucky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQTbbUASPLQ

Wall Street outright lied to offload known crashed investments to unsuspecting buyers. Again, this is obviously highly illegal. Nobody got punished, we can argue about why not, but one can remark it would have seriously affected the government.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whlzFWwVv98

It would have made both parties unelectable for a century because Will Emerson would have been forced "to take his hand off the scale".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f2kGHcdJYU (second part of this clip, after 1m05s)

The banks will not play fair. This can be proven by pointing out that they simply can't. If they make profits, they get those out of the company rapidly, and by design, the system cannot pay out the contracts it underwrites beyond a minimal "safety margin". They simply cannot cover the contracts they underwrite in the event of a crash, they don't have the money. You'd have to hope that the FED covers those contracts ... and ... not even if hell freezes over will they do so.

And of course even this is ignoring real "black swan" events. Here's the thing: if a real meteor or comet hits earth, for example, black swan investors won't get paid ... and they won't even care.
It's not the worst idea. I build web UIs, I don't really care what product they support as long as it's not explicitly harming anyone.

But it's also missing the point. I apply for the jobs I want, I just don't want to apply for the ones that make below my bottom line.
There is a possibility that everything we output is merely a regurgitation of thousands of human answers, ideas, and thoughts we have encountered before. Including this comment of yours. And mine.
Making sure the bottom line is as big a positive number as possible isn’t political.
this reminds me of when i worked for a 150 employee business whose sole revenue came from consuming facebook and twitter apis.

you are really just fucked as soon as the giants decide to steal your product, even if they can't compete with your product on usability, features, or marketing. all they have to do is change their pricing.