skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
>> Most papers in AI aren’t even reviewed by peers or editor and guess what: we have lots of progress happening.

If by progress you mean a constant creep of SOTA on meaningless benchmarks, then yeah, we have "progress", but that progress is a strange kind of progress that is measured only on its own, self-selected criteria, and that does nothing to advance the total sum of knowledge. The main beneficiaries of this "progress" are large technology corporations who have now taken over research in AI and are turning it to profit. There has definitely been proress in money-making schemes and personal aggrandisement schemes of charlatans and mountebanks, in AI, aplenty.

If by progress you meant scientific progress, then, no, there has been none of that in recent years. It is questionable if there has ever been any kind of scientific progress associated with AI. While early pioneers of AI, like John McCarthy and Claude Shannon, wished to establish a scientific programme of research in human and machine intelligence, with the purpose of understanding the former by developing the latter, this programme was soon set aside, and activity concentrated instead in what McCarthy used to call the "look ma, no hands disease of AI":

>> Much work in AI has the ``look ma, no hands'' disease. Someone programs a computer to do something no computer has done before and writes a paper pointing out that the computer did it. The paper is not directed to the identification and study of intellectual mechanisms and often contains no coherent account of how the program works at all.

http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/reviews/lighthill/lighthi...

And this is where we still are today. AI is no science.
Good point. Somewhere in the discussion I forgot about this.
congrats on going through this process (https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/how-become-federal-firea...) or buying 50-year old machine guns, thanks to the basic sops to common sense enshrined in the US laws today.
To be fair, it's never been easier to get access to thousands of GPUs in the cloud. It might be expensive, but that is an entirely different kind of barrier. Just a decade ago, it used to be that the only way to get access to thousands of GPUs was to get access to a supercomputer at a national lab. Now anybody with enough money can rent thousands of GPUs (with good interconnects too!) in the cloud. There's certainly a limitation on it from a money perspective, but access to the computational resources themselves is not a problem.
The downside is what makes Apollo great, is the time to content for the consumer. It is in Reddit's best interest in their current business model to have the user spend as much time on a page as possible, in a format that has advertising. Apollo does not have advertising. The official Reddit app does.
Old reddit + darkreader +ublock origin extension on Firefox is my preference.

I’d like to know others’ opinions on darkreader: is it a great security threat. I perused the information it discloses it gets access to but have not seen many online criticisms.
>I have a hard time believing these underhanded tactics are overlooked and allowed.

Really, we're looking at the wrong place talking about the power company... where you should be looking is rental properties.

https://www.propublica.org/article/yieldstar-rent-increase-r...
I think this is closer to streamlit and pynecone. Retool is lo code and very different imo.
I tried Silverblue for a bit, it's quite neat but I found it annoying that I had to overlay Gnome Tweaks in order to configure the fonts used. I'm also not sure how I feel about Fedora filtering Flathub, it's easy enough to override and I'm sure they have a good reason for it and most applications are available, but still. Toolbox is a really nifty gadget to play around with, though.

Also tried the KDE Plasma alpha (beta?) of OpenSUSE MicroOS, it could use more love.

Kinoite may suit my tastes better, I'll give that a try sometime soon; I just hope that RPMFusion will update their setup instruction by then because the ones I tried didn't work properly.
maybe but it is also a damn interesting article with great technical depth.
3 years ago I created some tech I wanted to sell as a SAAS business. After my engineer mind and nerd brain finally accepted that I am not good at doing everything myself I found myself a business partner. Several months I reached out to people I found interesting with the question if they knew someone with experience in the field and a commercial business brain. After many talks and some personality tests we made a deal.
He paid 10k, I gave him 50% stocks. He is CEO, I am CTO.
We now have developers, marketing people and many happy customers. I started the rocket but never was able to fuel it like my business partner does. 10k for 50% is perfect if it saves your life.
Doesn't seem to work at all on mine (also Firefox Android).
it's so frustrating how there are really two conversations going on about this.

one is, "AI will soon enough be AGI and then the extinction of humanity is at stake"

the other is sort of paraphrased in this article: "These models are being unleashed into the wild by corporations who offer no transparency as to their corpus, their architecture, their guardrails, or the policies for handling data from users. "

one refers to harm that would be caused by some hypothetical intelligence that so far only exists in science fiction, the other refers to harm being committed right now by humans who own companies.

The various "letters" being signed seem to be firmly in the "AGI human extinction" category and make no effort to suggest that perhaps the training sets being used for LLM should be *opened up right now and limited to those sources that provide consent only*, that is, stop stealing art, music, writing, source code, photographs, literature, and sticking it in your for-profit product. Skynet is not doing that, Sam Altman is.
>> It's called indoctrination, and everyone does it to their kids.

> I'm sure everyone does it to some degree, but surely not every "indoctrination" is equal, right?

Yes, but it depends on your point of view. I'm an A, so I think A-indoctrination is best, but you're a B, so you disagree think B-indoctrination is best (and perhaps that A-indoctrination is bad and I'm bad for doing it). If you think you're in a position to objectively evaluate which is better, you've just presented of an example of someone who's confused their point of view with objectivity. The "not equal" is in the sense of "not equally close to me."
I usually just try to find stuff on DHT using BTDigg.
Good points, according to the Wiki page, KMS-4 was initially tumbling and then shown to have stabilized, which seems to indicate that communication was established.
> but more secure unique identity data

What kind of data?

eID pretty much replicates Keybase, except it's concerned with real world identity (matching your given and surname to your pubkey) rather than pseudonymous identity (matching your twitter handle or reddit account or whatever else to your pubkey).

> that would allow the use of A-E-S keys for arbitrary data through a FOSS API.

You can use your ECC (or RSA) keypairs to negotiate an AES or chacha+poly session key. Most cryptosystems do that (ECDHE, or DHE for RSA) now since:

1. session keys are faster (in terms of CPU) than just encrypting with the remote's pubkey.

2. if the session key is stolen, you just get access to that session (perfect forward secrecy).

3. group chats just store the session key encrypted chat, plus copies of the session key encrypted with everyone's pubkey, to save storage.
Auger: A CLI tool for making tunnels to localhost
> shoulder, butt, and then loin contiguously?

If you tend to think about it going up the leg and over the back, then sure. Picnic shoulder is under the shoulder, butt is over the shoulder, and loin is the back.
I'm looking forward to this outcome. Reddit and Apollo both need to get paid, on a recurring basis, for their recurring services that require recurring maintenance and updates.

Reddit gets paid either through ad revenue displayed to non-paying visitors to the website, or through API calls for access to their dataset. Apps that enable user access via the API will need to pass along this charge to their users.

Apollo must become a paid-subscriptions-only app, as Reddit now charges for usage. This is fine. Apollo needs to constantly be updated to keep up with Reddit API changes over time anyways, so neither 'free' nor 'one-time purchase' are acceptable ways to provide a continuous living wage for keeping up with reddit API (and mobile OS) updates.

There's a third (paid) option, which is that Apollo sells the app to Brave or Firefox, where it's integrated into a paid "Reader Mode" subscription — because a team of developers will need recurring revenue for living wages in order to maintain the website rendering overlay and overcome Reddit's attempts to block or break it, and will need a team of lawyers to defend against the eventual lawsuit Reddit will bring against them (even if they'll lose due to the LinkedIn precedent from a few months ago — but, I am not their lawyer, this is not legal advice).

There are no good free outcomes that are not advertising-supported, and the API is incompatible with advertising, which is why so many people use it. I'm glad to see that Reddit has realized this, and I'm glad they are still offering the free ad-supported website rather than a paywall. I hope that Apollo is willing to charge me for their app, and isn't demoralized by their users complaining about this. We'll see.
Somehow I'm super sensitive to the audio (or might be video) and start feeling nauseous after a short time. Is there an explanation to this? I think it's that scratchy humming background sound.
in my opinion, a good middle ground would be to make third-party apps only usable if you're subscribed to Reddit Premium.

That way you don't give the data freely, you could make each API keys provided to the user with limits that won't impact normal navigation but would cripple automated data capture, and you'd solve the issue where third-party apps aren't fed ads by sustaining the platform through subscription.
I disagree that they're necessarily worse for participating. The issues of following a popular forum thread would still make it obnoxious to participate in the conversation. And in a forum, when two people get into unproductive one-on-ones it tends to stifle the entire conversation, because it's put right inline with all other posts.

The problem with massive threads, I feel like, still exists with forums, but the opposite. It's usually folly to comment on a popular thread early on a traditional forum, as your comment will just be swept up with all the other excited comments. I think the answer to both is to use them for smaller communities, which is why I think reddit is best for hobby communities and whatnot.
Vitalik is not motivated by money. He decided to create a supra-national computer system no government can touch when “Blizzard removed the damage component from his beloved warlock’s Siphon Life spell.”

https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/22709126/ethereum-creat...

Joe Lubin, the guy behind him, is of course all about the money.
What Is DevSecOps?
This January I was laid off from a large fin tech. I was an executive assistant to their CTO (only admin, no engineering require in my role). I hated the job, just like I hated the previous admin job, I was miserable but needed the job and felt stuck. Tbh, being fired felt like a blessing.

Anyway, a few weeks after I got laid off I decided to learn web development. Working for a CTO and supporting other engineers made me curious about their work, those people were really interesting. So I set a self-studying guide, and by May I was accepted to a good (imo) bootcamp.

In the bootcamp we are suppose to work on personal projects during spare time, I decided to code a google maps app that allows you to clink on certain areas and get info about that particular area, something simple. Soon I realised that getting coordinates for polygons vertex by vertex in a whole city would take longer than my adult life, worse yet, I could not find tools online to help me do that.

But that's when the magic happened, instead, I coded a tool to make my life easier and retrieve the coordinates. Being able to make a tool to overcome challenges or facilitate goals feels like nothing else. The app is quite simple, but I honestly haven't felt that happy in many years (I am 29 if you wondered). I think I will chase this feeling for a long time to come now.

ps - A friend said I should post here, I hope you like my app (:
Or just questions about three or four wildly different fields of science, sports and culture you happen to have more than a layman's understanding. If the answers are somewhat plausible, it's probably a model. Or your life partner.
This feels like it's all priced for AI companies, TBH. This per-request pricing makes a LOT more sense if you assume that one particular piece of content will only be requested once in your company's history, saved on a server somewhere and used for training forever. You're not paying for a request being processed, you're not even paying to offset any advertising cost, you're essentially paying for the ability to use the requested piece of content forever. Maybe that's what Apollo should do, set up a huge cache layer and proxy all requests for the public data through there? I feel like the power law would apply here, so 80% of the requests would be for 20% of the content. Considering how popular the most popular subreddits are, I wouldn't be surprised if the balance was something like 99-to-1. Cache misses would still need to be fetched from the API itself, but that should drive costs down massively.

If the ToS allow this, the cache layer could even be shared across apps from different developers (developers supporting both iOS and Android might have an advantage here), making the costs even lower.
Ballpark: depends how you want to depreciate servers but under a penny.

They're not charging for cost; they're charging ad revenue replacement for users using apps. It's pretty clear in the way the Apollo costs would be about $2.50 per month, which isn't that far from the $7/mo for reddit premium.
Of course it is, yet people still stormed social media claiming they'd do it.
I'm not sure that the game would work without this restriction. If you kept grip of the ball regardless of if your finger was on the path none of the game's puzzles would work since you could just move your fingers wherever you wanted without losing the ball.
> I scratch my head and wonder, if India is so good WTF are they still doing here

Some of Erdoğan's most reliable voters live in Germany. It's not uncommon.
My experience is the opposite. TikTok curation is incredibly efficient at honing in on the content niches that appeal to you. My TikTok feed feels very personal, I regularly interact in the comments and find some truly insightful discussions there. Reddit is a totally random mess of crap that I used to like. The manual curation of subreddits feels outdated and a pain compared to TikTok's ability to "organically" bring me to content that I am interested in at the moment.
Also lots of similar wisdom, from Percival Dunwoody, Idiot Time Traveller from 1909 [0].

[0] https://www.gocomics.com/tomthedancingbug/2022/06/17
> A stateful API

This would be huge for many applications, as "chatting" with GPT-4 gets really, really expensive very quickly. I've played with API with friends, and winced as I watched my usage hit several dollars for just a bit of fun.
I actually want that to happen, it will probably be the thing to finally make me kick my reddit addiction.
I wonder if the official smartphone app uses the same API as the one exposed and documented for third-party apps. It's my understanding that it does not because the unofficial app I use (reddit is fun) lacks some features, so just borrowing the official app's key and putting it in RiF is out, but surely it would be possible to adapt a FOSS app like Slide to quack like the Blessed Official App and let the arms race begin, no?
My understanding is they're actively working to minimise NSFW communities in lede to the IPO.
show your work. Even the existing version of AI clearly enables very high scale misinformation campaigns, the analog/basic/manual version of which (e.g. Fox, Newsmax, 4chan/QAnon, Facebook, etc.) has already put American democracy in a super dire situation. And that's before its impact on income inequality, jobs, and so on.
TIL. I see so much "@dang" in HN threads I assumed it actually did something.
You bring up good points.

I often think about C.

I learned C a long time ago, I still have the KR book,
and if I look at C code I can get a good idea of what is
happening, even though I haven't kept up with all the changes.

In C# now, two developers can write code that accomplishes
the same but might not be able to read each other's code.
I dont think that is healthy.

It is somewhat the Microsoft Office / Word approach to programming
languages.
Just Keep adding features on top of features.
> It will really go into freefall when they go public later this year, after which I'm certain you'll start seeing more intrusive monetization.

Yep, and with more intrusive monetization comes stricter content controls. Once Reddit bans NSFW content -- which is "when" not "if" at this point -- it's going to lose its relevance as a platform.
good luck buying Sarin gas :)
High profile libertarian youtubers and Breitbart readers. Got it.
Apollo is such a quality app that I had to delete it because it was so addicting.

Good riddance to Reddit. The only sad part is there is no clear successor ready to take its place for the minority of subreddits that host real communities and serve as a useful distribution point for information.

Personally I think the developers of the top Reddit apps should get together and develop their own backend that clones the Reddit API endpoints but hosts the content on federated instances. Just cut out Reddit corporate - what value are they providing when the bulk of content creators are using third party apps to browse and create content?
That GitHub URL got malformed, there is a semicolon appended
Hinton has been exaggerating the capabilities of AI for nearly a decade. As one example, if we listened to him in 2016/17 we would have an even worse radiologist shortage than we do right now.

> The point is not that any one particular situation will occur. It's that there are an unknown number of factors in what makes an AI "smart enough" and in what makes it "misaligned". There are hypothetical scenarios where a hyperintelligent AI creates goals for itself that necessitate our extinction, and we don't know how those scenarios come into existence or how to stop them. Assuming they won't happen is just burying our heads in the sand.

It’s not assuming it won’t happen or burying our heads in the sands, it’s calling for measured responses.

My point is that we can worry and have the discussion without being alarmist and enacting premature regulation.

Autonomous AGI, whenever that happens, absolutely poses a threat. But it’s extremely exaggerated to think what we have today, or even what is known on the horizon, represents that.

People assume advancements will continue to happen at their current pace. The last 6 years of advancements has been the product of scaling and refining self-attention + transformers from 2017/8.

> so who did

I’m not sure what you’re getting at. No one had the will/resources to burn billions on a language model that has ??? business plan, doesn’t mean no one saw it coming.
> Do any of these LLMs have their own agenda where they operate under their own agency and could plausibly take over all power generation on earth?

No, but that's actually irrelevant. The reason it's irrelevant is because of the answer to:

> I am struggling to understand you people who jump from "LLMs are an amazing technology" to "A new lifeform is here making moves to seize control!"

Nobody is saying the second thing (that I'm aware of). This is the chain of reasoning:

1. "LLMs are an amazing technology [which advanced at an unexpected rate]"

2. Because LLMs advanced at an unexpected rate, this indicates an acceleration of research

3. Such acceleration could conceivably happen or be happening now in other forms of AI

4. The path to AGI is COMPLETELY unknown.

5. The origins and structures of consciousness and agency in intelligent systems are completely unknown

6. It is impossible for humans today to know if they've crossed a threshold into creating AGI, or a new form of intelligent alien life.

7. AGI is inherently alien and there's no reason to expect it to think the way we do.

8. Even human goals and systems are often (or even mostly) misaligned - look at any for-profit corporation or totalitarian state for an extreme example of how their existence harms people in many cases (pollution, murder, exploitation, discrimination, etc)

So, I think I've covered the bases. I'll sum it up like this: We don't know what AGI looks like, we can't expect it to have our best interests in mind because it's an alien that's smarter than us, and we don't know when or how we'll achieve AGI. So unless you don't believe superhuman AGI is possible at all, we're in a very scary time. We have know way of knowing if it will take 5 years or 100, but we also know that people all over the world are racing to make it happen as soon as possible.
It's like traversing a bad "mega menu."

Did you know that "double-click" on early Windows literally meant "click the same pixel twice in rapid succession"?
Just finished this game. Great fun and a genuinely unique game amid a sea of mobile shlock.
Yeah. The centralized enforcers of the system may as well maintain the ledger themselves. Using a normal database at a fraction of the cost.

If they want to be dishonest about things there is no decentralized magic tech that can prevent them doing so.
I get it. A gamified version of all the frustrations I have with mobile UX and my fat fingers exaggerated to absurdity. Personally I take it as art, not as a game. I won't play it for more than 3 minutes.
Just out of curiosity, what do you plan to use for news/entertainment instead? I don't use Facebook, and generally alternate between HN and Reddit whenever I need a break from work and don't know any other good options.
I was unable to get past the second 3 finger one. It kept glitching out when I put down my third finger.

Samsung Galaxy S20
Could you be more specific? If you have done the same or very similar task before, I guess it would be better that you would take up the task rather than said team?
Yes. But the question was about social media not web2.0. Unrelated topics.
Had the same problem at first, but moving one finger before the others made it work.
At four fingers my phone can't do it anymore. It seems that it can only detect 3 pressure points at a time.
That's the fun part about being human: we each get to define reality for ourselves.
A good reminder that Reddit is not actually usenet, or even the individual forum sites that it ultimately killed off. It's a massive surveillance capitalism corporation that ultimately only serves its owners.
May many christian nationalists follow her!

(although they may be surprised to find out that russian propaganda for anglophones differs slightly from russian propaganda for russophones, eg https://youtu.be/r29k_T_o9To?t=83 [1:23-1:38] ... still, despite the diversity in the religion section, the end of that particular clip is much more lily-white than, say, proper caucasian music videos, eg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTdXQabTTRg)