skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Indeed -- why would it even need to be a GPT system?

But I personally do not want a chat interface. I find communicating with a computer via natural language to be more cumbersome than using a decent traditional interface. Perhaps some banks have worse interfaces than others, but I'm happy with what I have now.

If others want a chat interface, then great! Hopefully it can be an addition rather than a replacement.
Well, I wasn't, but if you look at the top most comment of this thread [0] you'll see that considering the level of human reinforcement being demonstrated only reinforces my point.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36013017
I think this is the wrong problem they are addressing. They should allow malicious users to be a possibility but what is lacking is package authentication/signing.

Sign all packages, new users get the worst grade, users with a lot of downloads over a long period get a slightly better grade then have different levels if trusted third party reviewed grades.

For new users' packages you get a big red warning that needs to be confirmed and bypassed in multiple ways with a message like "ERROR:THIS PACKAGE IS FROM AN ILL-REPUTED SOURCE, IT IS LIKELY MALICIOUS AND HASN'T UNDERGONE HUMAN REVIEW" kind of scream at you a little.
> When I order anything off Amazon, which is more and more rare these days, I wish there was a shipping option of

The best way to signal this is to not buy from Amazon and instead buy from elsewhere.
The US needs to start sanctioning India specifically until they crack down on their rampant antibiotic abuse. I know India can succeed but until they do we can’t be importing stuff like this from there.
> 1. There is no such thing as 100% accurate. Not only is it not physically possible (there can always be hardware errors or bit flips) but it's not even theoretically possible (you'd require a checker that was 100% accurate to tell, which is equivalent to solving the halting problem).

You don't have to solve the halting problem to prove a mathematical theorem (which includes proving things about a computer program), either manually or via an automated theorem prover.

One consequence of the halting problem (or more precisely, Rice's theorem) is that there is no algorithm that can determine a non-trivial property of an arbitrary program. It doesn't imply that you can't prove things about a specific program.

I suppose you can always be philosophical about it and say "how do I know the axioms are true" (whatever that means), or "how do I know there's no mistake in this proof" - but then you'd have to extend that same level of scrutiny to the theorem that the halting problem can't be solved, I guess.
He gave it a go (via an assistant) and the results were dissappointing.

The message thread reads like a sequential diary entry, so I wouldnt assume that he's done with it at all, simply that noones had the balls to go back to him and say "yo Don, that grad student did you a disservice and here's the GPT4 results".
> Neeva does rely on Bing for some web search activity, as evidenced by. However, it is pushing towards relying entirely on its own search stack.

https://neeva.com/massets/ask-neeva/does-neeva-use-bing.html
Bard is a brain-damaged-but-literate idiot compared to GPT 3, which is still dumber than the typical human.

Try GPT 4 for a week.

I've found it to be more like 50% immediately useful, 25% very impressive, and 25% where it's not wrong but I have to poke it a few times with different prompts to coax out the specific answer I'm looking for.

That's better than most humans that I collaborate with at work.

Literally half of humans -- in a professional IT setting -- can't understand simplified, clear english in emails. Similarly, in my experience about half can't follow simple A -> B logic. Many are perpetually perplexed that prerequisites need to precede the work, not be a footnote in the post-mortem of the predictable failure. Etc...

PS: That last sentence is too hard for several English-native speakers I work with to parse. Seriously. I'm not even exaggerating the tiniest bit. I've had coworkers fail to understand words like "orthogonal" or "vanilla" in a sentence. Vanilla!

In my estimation, Chat GPT 4 is already smarter than many people, certainly the bottom 25% of the human population.

LLMs are a real existential threat to those people in their current state. A few more years of improvement, and they'll be displacing the bottom 50% in workplaces, easily.
One of the biggest strawmen I've ever seen.
None of the things you mentioned are related to car design. It seems logical that auto design choices that decrease driver attention to the act of driving would probably make all the things you listed even more likely to be deadly for others.

It therefore seems logical to advocate for car design that does not decrease driver attention to the act of driving.
Modern package registries implicitly treat all package authors as equally trustworthy—you don't need to know which organization wrote the `zip` package, you just need to know that there's a package by that name and it opens your zip files. It's charmingly egalitarian and quite convenient, but the global namespace both enables typosquatting and trains developers to not think at all about the people who write the stuff in their supply chain. The biggest point of failure in any system—the humans—has no first-class expression in the typical modern package registry.

I can't help but wonder if this is something Maven got right. Namespacing packages according to domain names makes typosquatting vastly more difficult to pull off and makes authorship of dependencies a first-class concern for end users. If something is under org.apache, that means something about the contents of the package, and PyPI and company don't front that information nearly as well as Maven does.
No, America doesn't do this. You have a right to a speedy trial and if you demand a speedy trial you will get one.

Mitnick did not request a speedy trial, in fact he moved to delay the trial.
Such a weird time, when the gap in the performance of GPT 3.5 and 4 is huge, but the time between their releases is so short. Some of the critique that was apt for 3.5 sounds a bit out of touch when it comes to 4.
I do wonder how well (quickly) the whole thought is formed in your head and it’s just the encoding into language that tricks you into thinking you didn’t know what the word would be.

Having learned another language, the moment you start to feel “fluent” is when you start speaking first in the 2nd language and aren’t using your first language as an intermediate step to translate to your 2nd language.
On the other side of the coin, Japan has an extremely low crime rate. Maybe we shouldn't be so quick to judge their system to be bad.
Google Cloud has made profit first time in history. Youtube revenue keep increasing. Other bets like self-driving car may payoff. Ad business is suffering less than competitive ad businesses.

Two things investor are recently asking for is reduction in workforce and rationalizing compensation. First one is done to an extent. Second one likely be agenda in coming months and years.

So all in all Google is doing fine and board or investors have no need to be concerned with CEOs. It may change though if competitors do hurt google business in material ways in future.
Which is true for many humans as well.
> This is what you get when you lose world war
(Coughs in German) No.
Imagine having to pay to give open source software away for free. Sounds like a great way to ensure the death of PyPI.
I recently spent about two hours trying to write a script to automatically color grade an input image according to the palette of a target image. The results were unsatisfying and I was surprised that achieving this task was much trickier than I initially anticipated.
I like amazon unlike the popular sentiment here. Just avoid products with those weid bold square brackets in the description.

This is the right way to address it's treatment of workers. A lot of companies who cause social problems like this can also be addressed by simply passing laws. Businesses don't have rights, only natural people do.
I said "most useful" not "all useful".

…HN isn't that useful.
What exactly does "understanding the world" really mean?
GCC also uses garbage collection during the compilation process, but that doesn't make it happen at runtime or C a Scheme.
That's not what your comment said at all though.

>Neurotoxicity

unclear. on the onehand, unpublished studies in gorillas show no lesions. on the other, retroactive studies of heavy polydrug abusers show lesions. not super high-quality evidence either way. there's also rat studies showing lesions, but rats are unusually sensitive to neurotoxicity from dissociatives. they get similar lesions from nitrous oxide while humans get no such thing. honestly the potential bladder toxicity is more concerning imo.

>relapse rate

still much better success rates than SSRIs.

not saying ketamine is perfect --- would be better to have a purpose-built drug, and a lot of the clinics are kind of scummy and charge exorbitant prices. but this + non-psychedelic 5ht2a plastinogens are the most promising things to come out of depression research in the past 45 years.
The problem is moderation.

Any time you make a new media library hosting platform, it attracts exactly the people who need it most.

The answer is good metadata and categorization, but that requires active moderation.

Moderation is the single most expensive part of the internet, and most of it is being done for free. Big tech like Facebook and Google are making themselves incompatible with traditional moderation, which is why they keep trying (and failing) to automate it.

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I think the best solution is a web of trust. Instead of using a tracker/site like TPB (and its moderation) to introduce trust, let each user make whatever authoritative claims they want (this torrent is good, that one is corrupted, and this other one has a virus), and let other users back those claims via gpg signature. Instead of forum moderators, you get trust curators.
Why do they repeat in the audio the lecture title and date three times?
It's more likely because the buyers have been persuaded by the marketing and attempts at deception. When 10k MLC (2-bit cells) came out, offering only twice the capacity of SLC for 1/10th the endurance of the 100k SLC that was the norm at the time, they already had to keep SLC prices artifically high (>2x) to attempt to force people to MLC, and I remember the beginning of efforts to hide the poor endurance. Old NAND datasheets proudly proclaimed their 100k or even 10k cycle endurance. Now it's basically impossible to find a TLC or QLC NAND datasheet that isn't behind an NDA or the rare few that get leaked, and even those which you can find, are extremely vague about endurance. Some parts will let you choose between SLC/MLC/TLC mode for each block, and some SSDs use this for some stupid "cache" feature, but the behaviour of that is not easily configurable --- i.e. without hacking the firmware.

Many PC enthusiasts also want reliability.
I had an entirely different experience. Neeva's product has been far superior to Google for me. I do wish that they invested more into isolating your search profiles; eg: one for engineering work and one for my personal life. They had this feature about halfway implemented to what I wanted. Personally I think it's like they put it, there's a massive search war going on and their tiny platform is a casualty.
It's probably not possible to be both ad supported and not evil. They are at odds with each other.
lol @ ebay and DevEx. (one of the examples in the article) When I was there (up to 2017) the team that made the internal web framework, Raptor, refused to let anyone see the source code. I mean people that worked at the company, they wouldn't let people sitting 15 feet from them see the source code to the web framework that they used all day to work. Of course you could easily see it in any Java IDE, but they didn't seem to know that. Another team was merging branches by copying the entire source tree and going through the files one by one and manually merging changes in. eBay had been 100% on git/github for over 5 years at that point, nobody on the team had ever learned how branches work, and they had managed to never have anyone tell them either. There had been about 17 large initiatives to fix the MyEbay pages, since every tab was implemented on a different generation of web framework, going all the way back to one that worked entirely via XSLT and merging xml documents which had been retired for well over a decade at that point. All of the efforts failed, and I just checked and my eBay is still using multiple generations of web framework spanning decades. This wouldn't be such a big deal except they don't have the competence left in the company to update the styling so as you click through tabs the page changes from reactive to fixed width to %width depending on what you are looking at. (try it, go to myEbay and click eBay Bucks, or click Messages) They can't even get the color scheme aligned. Again, if they said 'nobody cares' that's just prioritization, but I know that this has been attempted at least 5 times with teams of a dozen people spending up to a year on it. There isn't some secret complexity that thwarts them, it's just an organization that is politically driven and leadership that is more interested in harassing journalists than the business of the company. eBay's DevEx was bad, but their DevCompetence was shocking.
a few $100 dollars per hour is nothing

one time i wanted to hire a lawyer. his rate was $1500 per hour and his partner’s $2000 per hour.

again, we are so far off as engineers and we are clueless regarding negotiation and deal making.
Because of cycle counting, it sounds pretty impractical to use.
The number of people parroting this is also absolutely astounding and grating too.

Like, anyone who has spent 5 minutes on this forum already knows this. It’s probably not necessary to keep pointing it out. Yes some people don’t know ChatGPT 3.5 is the default for non-paying customers.
I've had experiences performing really well and quite poorly (creating / refactoring code as an example).

But largely I'd say that when you push it beyond a certain horizon it just gets stuck. If you chat with it about truly novel ideas, it's clear that it's limited to its training and not capable of any true internal reflection.

That being said it's a great tool for day to day work and as a rubber ducky type friend.
I foresee that the code-optimised version of GPT 4 with the 32K token context window will be amazing. GitHub Copilot was a derivative of GPT 3.0, which was pretty dumb compared to GPT 3.5, which in turn is the village idiot next to GPT 4... which IMHO is human-equivalent at many tasks. Not all, but many.

Realistically, GPT 4 costs 100x as much as GPT 3.5 in inference mode, so it won't change the world just yet. There are still API rate limits, waiting lists, etc...

Still... having the equivalent of a junior employee assisting with your code, but at a fraction of the cost and many times the speed, will be amazing.
Thank you for specifying ChatGPT-4. So many commenters on the web say they used GPT4 without specifying if they're using the ChatGPT version. ChatGPT-4 is specifically aligned for answering questions better than the base GPT4 model.
But you and your brain are much more than the language-forming aspect.
I find it funny that an article about DevEx is on a website that isn't adapted for mobile reading.
"However, we want to be clear that this edition is only free to read, look at and listen to online, and this posting does not transfer any right to download all or any portion of the book The Feynman Lectures on Physics, its photos or tape recordings, for any purpose."
Sure Sam Altman, the lying CEO of a tech company (they all do) should be listened to on this matter but not on the part where he thinks AGI within reach using his approach. Selective hearing.
The CEO and CTO of OpenAI have both said that they currently have more than 10x data than they used to train GPT-4, agreements to collect 30x more, and that collecting 100x more would not be a problem.
If you take any small pocket of the Chinese market, you'll find millions of people. So, even if what you're saying is 100% correct, this doesn't paint a complete picture of the Chinese economy. In aggregate, China is growing faster than other economies and in engineering and scientific terms it is growing much faster.
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Thanks! This is a great find... I'll have a look. Fingers crossed my hardware can run this.
>makes it general and "intelligent"

Isn't intelligent a matter of perspective? Most people that are critical of GPT-4 wonder if it ever produces anything novel. Since its been trained on existing text created by humans. So it's replicating those patterns in its output. But yes, it has its general purpose use as a tool. But it has its limits. Just the other day, there was an article posted on HA about how LLM's can't handle negation and tend to fall apart.

Here is the article. https://www.quantamagazine.org/ai-like-chatgpt-are-no-good-a...
Absolutely the man was a pioneer of the graft that is payment for order flow. His biggest mistake was living too long if he had died a year or 2 earlier he would have gotten away with it
your link is for PTSD, not depression. no studies have come out so far showing MDMA has any effectiveness in depression. the proposed mechanism for PTSD involves serotonin release leading to heightened extinction of fear memory in the hippocampus and amygdala. no reason to believe necessarily this will help with depression.
Every time there is a thread in the topic humans are hallucinating and making shit up at epic scale. So really, it’s either a terminal flaw and we should never listen to another human again or we should start getting some humility
Linux distribution maintainers already do all of those things and probably more. It's always interesting to see other projects rediscover these lessons multiple times.
If you don’t care about the latest data, the commoncrawl dataset is a good start.
He is 85! I would hope to be that disciplined about what what I can spend time on at that age

He was curious enough to spend some time on it and was worried it would sink more of his time with all the sub problems it is presented and asks specifically Stephan wolfram to disengage on this

He talks about his preference of working with authentic and trustworthy .

Maybe a younger Knuth may have spent more time , but I perhaps think not that likely really .

This is simply not a area of interest for him, he does truly understand the impact and potential - When he talks about novelists not capturing precursors to singularity and how millions of people have access to 0.01 % intelligence for free .

I don’t think he is dismissive of its potential and future , he is not working on everything that can change the world in computing just his areas of interest.

Perhaps you (I am certainly) disappointed that someone of Knuth’s stature is not going to spend time on an emerging field and that’s what really bothers us..
> I’ve had coworkers fail to understand words like “orthogonal” or “vanilla” in a sentence. Vanilla!

Presumably, you are referring to the idiomatic use of vanilla, which is probably a less-universal idiom than you think it is (it is of fairly recent origin in wide use, derives from a specific American cultural loading of the literal vanilla flavor) and which, even when the general idiom is understood, can rely on a deeply shared understanding of what is the basic default in the referenced context to actually be understand as to its contextual meaning.
Not to be rude, but are you paid by OpenAI to say this?

The amount of comments here telling people to “upgrade to ChatGPT 4” is absolutely unprecedented.

I know it might be good, but people will find value in it and upgrade if they see the need to do so?
The so-called tech crackdown only affected some large corporations operating in areas that the government didn't want. A huge amount of money has been invested in several technologies and in research.
I'm super sad to see Neeva go, I've been paying for it and using it daily for a year, maybe more. Is there a similar/better alternative?
What you are saying is humans are just stochastic parrots - predictable little denial engines regurgitating their latest chosen sentence that makes them feel special and safe.

Any thread in the topic, simple statistical modeling will get you close to perfect to the distribution of arguments that will appear.
What a paranoid worldview lmao
Is this new? I can't find previous version of this page on Internet archive and the page footer did not get updated since 2013 (at least it suggests that the content updated last time in 2013)

> Copyright © 1963-1965, 2006, 2013 by the California Institute of Technology, Michael A. Gottlieb and Rudolf Pfeiffer

Edit: It seems that I'm wrong. There is mention that they updated Original Course Handouts in 2022

> 6. Updated in March 2022 with a new presentation featuring deep-zoomable images.
I’m not really sure how to respond other than to say no, that’s not what I was doing at all. I don’t think progressives, conservatives, liberals, neoliberals, etc., are infantile, I’m not trying to feel like I’m better than any of them. And I really don’t understand your last point at all - a taxonomy obviously contains lots of different things, and grouping them into one broad similarity is never meant to imply they are fully homogenous. Like, it’s obviously a scatterplot and I’m just pointing at some general trends.
Apparently the people with real sales volume data are convinced there's less of a market for expensive and small consumer SLC SSDs than there is for consumer 8TB TLC or QLC SSDs that cost as much as a decent laptop.

They realised it's easier to keep making a profit when drives keep "wearing out" (i.e. failing to be a data storage device) on a consistent and short(ening) schedule. Just like SLC, Optane was too good.

"small" is relative. 8TB of QLC is 2TB of SLC. They will both cost the same (if anything, the SLC might even be cheaper from a firmware/controller development perspective) yet the former might last a few years, and the latter several decades.
> with no analysis of long term impact.

And how do you know for sure what analysis was done or not?

> Easy to claim that the ones who do it are in authority therefore they're right but then that means every gov out there is right in whatever they do.

Well its similarly easy to say all competent people never be laid-off/fired when you are not the one paying their salaries.
Microchips from Silicon Saxony [video]
> One way to resolve this surprise is to find some reason to believe these strange abilities are fundamentally not an understanding of the world. Thus stochastic parrots, this article, Yan LeCun and Chomsky, etc.

This one. This is the correct resolution.
Second hand experience (vicarious)
The idea that text contains more information than language is fascinating, wow. Thank you!