skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Okay, fair, that is a critique that I do somewhat agree with.

At the same time, I'm looking at the surrounding context here on HN, and the majority of weird comments I'm seeing here are not saying, "the broader issues being explored here are part of a larger debate that's often mis-characterized" -- they're saying "this kind of labor is good actually."

For sure, if we talk about a broader debate, there is a real risk of conversations about child labor forcing kids out of what would be beneficial activities because of reactionary responses. And for sure, that's something people should be cautious about during coverage. But there are a number of comments here that are kind of staggering to me to read and that really don't look like they're defending summer jobs of the kind that are mentioned in your article, and so maybe better I think is to point out that what's happening in this article should not be lumped together into a debate about summer jobs. It should be treated as an entirely separate debate and there should be clearer lines drawn there.

I mean, you bring up detransitioning, but even within trans communities themselves I don't think best way to handle that kind of thing is pretending that detransitioners don't exist, it's to point out that caring for them and protecting them is something that needs to happen in addition to caring for trans kids. And that's something that the actual trans community (at least, the specific parts I'm familiar with) is honestly somewhat decent at, although it could always be better. There's a pushback against the combining of detransitioners into a singular narrative used to oppress other people, but (I think most trans people would agree) that detransitioners are still valid and should be listened to and cared for. The narrative is not an excuse to stop caring about them.
I think you need to read the article. You're comparing some hours helping with an adult activity with full time employment as a child, in dangerous conditions as vulnerable survival work.
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That.... That explains why I can't find it and makes a ton of sense.....

I think that's such a silly name for it, but oh well

Thanks for the correction!
I started food service work at 14 in the early 90s and it's some of the greatest memories of my youth.
Please read the original article.
The fact that the education system managed to forget how to teach kids how to read is unbelievably infuriating. I have been guilty in the past of rolling my eyes at “teachers are heroes, teachers should be paid like rockstars”. I don’t feel guilty anymore!
Well that and a 10B investment right?
The only reason I am using an Android phone and not an iOS one is because of F-Droid to install the open-source app I like and need. I would definitely switch to iOS if I could have this freedom there.

I hate that with Android I trust that Google will at some point succeed with a dark pattern in letting me agree to siphon my data without my real agreement.
Does Facebook have an ongoing dispute with Google about privacy controls on Android, though?
I don’t know why you are downvoted but - related: The Jungle is a fantastic book, everyone who’s ever held a job should read. It is completely related to every reply here and the article in question as well.
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There are several things in the article I feel people should be discussing.

> He sometimes had trouble getting the money he was owed for his labor. At the start of his days, he says, he'd write his name and the hours he'd worked in a notebook and "hope that notebook wouldn't get lost" — which would mean he wouldn't get paid.

Unpaid labor. Wage theft is common between adults, how is a child suppose to defend their hours?

> All the while, nicotine — a substance he's barely old enough to legally purchase now — seeped into his skin. For all tobacco workers, but especially kids, that can cause nicotine poisoning, or green tobacco sickness, whose symptoms include nausea, vomiting, headaches and dizziness.

If adults struggle to avoid this, how is a child suppose to?

> Seventh-graders can't buy cigarettes, and they can't work at grocery stores or fast-food chains. But they can work in tobacco.

The heart of the argument to raise the minimum age laws.

> Under the Fair Labor Standards Act, kids 12 and up can work unlimited hours outside school hours in agriculture, and the rules are even more lenient for kids who work on their families' farms. Outside that industry, workers have to be 16 to work unlimited hours. Sixteen-year-olds and 17-year-olds working in agriculture can do tasks listed by the Labor Department as hazardous, versus 18 in other industries. Agriculture's hazardous occupation orders haven't been updated in 50 years, and they don't include tobacco, despite the known risks for workers of all ages.

Under the current law, completely legal.
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There's no need to be snarky?

I felt that the broad range of professionals I've met using ChatGPT in their daily work, already so soon after launch and while the technology is still unproven, was suggestive of its applicability across demographics.
> The minimum wage is already a "living wage"

We're not going to agree that $7.25 is a living wage.

In 1970 it was the equivalent of $12 today meanwhile house prices across the US exploded.

> So if a person on Africa can live on much less, why does an American deserve more? If anything, if the world was fair then the American minimum wage would be lower, with that money diverted to people in underdeveloped places like Africa instead.

I just don't understand when you see two disparate groups the desire not to raise the lower one up, but hold back the better off group. You can make both groups better off at the same time.

Labor advocacy matters. Things will regress if laborers don't constantly push for better. The discontent we see in society is imo in large part due to the decoupling of wage gains and productivity gains that started under Reagan.

And yeah, everyone deserves better because we can afford better thanks to massively higher productivity. The whole point of higher productivity is that everyone should benefit.
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While ultrasonic sensors would be fine for parking, they don't have very good range so they aren't much help in avoiding, for example, crashing into stationary fire trucks or concrete lane dividers at freeway speeds.
> Laws don't cover romhacks and mods.

Yes they do. They're derivative works. All Berne convention signatories recognize this.
Well, YouTube is kind of in a hard place. There are massive penalties for hosting others' IP, and basically no penalties for not doing that. The incentives are strongly aligned with taking content down if there's any hint that it may be infringing. If you'd like that to change, then you need to change the incentives -- the laws. YouTube is just operating in the system Disney and Cher created.
Lots of people in the comments are wilfully eliding the distinction between their fond memories of working for a few hours to save for candy and videogames, and the child exploitation being described in the article.
I agree that humans are a blight on the planet.
We need fewer of them and more resources for the benevolent AI overlords, I mean buddies.

Fortunately, naturally declining populations due to the apparent sudden realization of humanity that resources are limited may save the planet yet.
> I am not sure why so many journalists always miss this fact when they claim it's a bit bed for human trafficking and child pornography

> Or am I missing something?

Seems you're missing that they used past tense in the article? specifically not present tense?
Ask HN: Anyone want to use ChatGPT to build a web app and podcast about it?
I host a very very small (< 20 downloads per episode) podcast and am interested in doing a series of podcasts based on our experiences as developers of using chatGPT or chatGPT like tools to build a simple web app while doing as little actual coding as possible.

I'd like to build a small web app but I'm not sure exactly what yet. This will be just for experimental purposes. Maybe something like a super basic twitter or yelp clone would be a nice level of complexity for chatGPT.

One person could work on the frontend while the other works on the backend. I've been a backend dev most of my career but I'm comfortable doing frontend work too. We collaborate to fulfill some feature. Push our code to a repo. Once that feature is done, we'd record a remote video podcast about it discussing what it was like getting AI to generate the code.

The objective is to have fun while playing with cool tech. We could also address some questions with first hand experience:

1. Is chatGPT going to take my job as a software engineer?

2. Can I not work and let chatGPT do all my work now?

3. How much actual work did it take to build the web app?

4. How frequently did the AI spit out working code the first time?

These are my only must haves, everything else I'm open to changes:

1. The objective is to do as little actual coding/work as possible. Even letting AI style and produce a logo is preferable.

2. We podcast about our experience

3. The web app must be actually functional (not perfect) at the end of it

People I'm looking for:

1. Has enough technical ability (frontend or backend) to fix or write code to deploy a basic web app

2. Has enough free time to see this through. I'm not trying to build something large and beautiful. I'm OK with only doing one feature and podcast episode per week. Maybe a couple hours of building and an hour of podcasting

3. Has somewhat good communication skills. The death nail in any podcast is rambling so the ability to communicate somewhat concisely would be great (I'm not amazing at this either BTW)

FYI Your real identity does not have to be used or tied to this in any way. I do not tie my real identity to my podcast.

If this sounds fun to you, please email me a short summary of why you want to do this and what your rough schedule looks like.

For example: "Hey I'm John. I'm really curious about working with AI tools and this is a perfect way to do that. I'm a frontend engineer and am most familiar with React. I'm located on the west coast of the U.S and am free after 5:30 pm weekdays and most of the time on the weekends."

My email address in my profile. I'm also open to suggestions or advice. Would you find this podcast series interesting?
Probably, though taking the lower offer from Google means no change for end users, and thus probably less risk for Samsung.
Yeah, but a restaurant is specifically for food, so it makes sense that they would kick you out for bringing your own, but a movie theater is not a restaurant, like an airport or plane. I pay for the seat in the theater, and I'm not interested in their food.

They may have a policy against bringing your own food, but I don't think it's a reasonable policy and I don't see any reason to obey it if you don't want to and they don't enforce it.

If you want to make more money from the movie goers, just charge an extra buck for the ticket.
VM != cpu emulation, but fwiw I hear the opposite: M1 mac runs aarch64 containers natively, and emulates x64 containers. Mostly this works until it becomes confused and tries to run an x64 container without emulation.
Apple should do the same thing now, twist the knife.
Just wait till you find out that people put chili on all sorts of things. Heck, the Aztecs were putting chili on hot chocolate before there was even a Mexico. Those crazy Mexicas (not a misspelling) would put chili on anything!

Something tells me that they were putting chili on tortilla chips even back then. Crazy right?! Now put that in your pipe and smoke it!
Eye and lung protection are absolutely critical when you're playing with glass (or pottery). Silicosis is incurable, so I highly recommend that you play with them indoors only if you have a great ventilation/filtration system. Otherwise, go outside and wear safety goggles.

You can look at them under crossed polarizers.
That's a side effect of anti-theft measures.

Samsung is the same, you can't unlock them any more without signing in into both Samsung and Google accounts which allows the two companies to detect if the device was registered as stolen. And for what it's worth, Samsung is the worst of the bunch anyway as rooting it permanently bricks the TEE via an e-fuse.
I’ve used bing with gpt and it’s way worse than ChatGPT idk what you mean. I’d just as well use Google tbh. It wasn’t impressive.
> You're dreading giving other people the freedom to make one choice

Users made this choice when they bought an Apple product in the first place. Everybody knows well in advance that this is the current state of things, that is a well-informed choice by the end user.
What does "before kindergarten" mean? In the mornings? Or before she was old enough to go there? I started kindergarten at age 2 (like described in Wikipedia) and I suspect that is not what you mean.
> I think there isn't even good data on the effectiveness of marketing and advertising

Thinking that is a kind of proof that marketing and advertising work - to get people to believe they aren't being profoundly influenced by marketing and advertising.
No, the debt is still there as they've paid for the beans, staff, processing etc.

They'd temporarily moved their debt onto you and now had to accept it back again. But it hasn't gone away.
>Yes, the EU is the model of smart regulations when it comes to tech. That’s the reason that it has such a thriving tech ecosystem.

I don't think the (perhaps perceived) lack of entrepreneurship in the EU should be taken as a sign of regulation overreach to protect privacy. Seems liked a red herring in this conversation
>> tantalum polymer

> I actually kind of hate these guys, I don't find much use for them outside DC-DC converter output capacitors

Bulk capacitance in extreme battery constrained scenarios?

MLCC has difficulty going above 1uF at reasonable costs... especially when you consider voltage derating. Aluminum is relatively leaky, IIRC like 20uA, or 20x more leakage than MLCC or Tanalums.

Think like bulk capacitance for a CR2032-cell (which has issues serving more than 10mA). Serving an ESP32's 100mA+ current draw for a second or two (and then ESP32 sleeps) kinda thing.

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But not really a "decoupling cap" in this case. Just a bulk cap where Aluminum is disqualified.
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Depends on the query. Fact based queries should have the same answer.

If I'm searching for Python, I'd expect to see more about the programming language than the animal.
Even gen-z still build their own PCs. It isn't as niche as often said. They would laugh in your face with the worst insults a 16 year old teenager can come up with if you offer them a chromebook. They would sell it to their wine-aunt (who happens to not run non-emulator windows emulators on Linux).

Sure, they also play Pokemon Go... although partially because they are not sitting in front of their PCs. Large market by volume, but more so for alternative situations.
Half the time I enter a prompt it spits back regular search results without any chat response.
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Most likely because for protected mode to function, there is a certain minimal amount of housekeeping data tables that need to be setup properly (i.e. LDT, GDT, IDT, etc), otherwise you'll just immediately take a double fault and the CPU will halt.

Real mode exists today as a gateway to setting up all those housekeeping data tables so that once the "protected mode" switch is flipped on, the CPU will actually find code to execute.
They maintained apache 1.x in base for a long time. For a small number of releases they switched to nginx and then i think they wrote their own.
Yes. I like that Google seems to surface programming results in the language I use. In the case of “boobies”, if I’m a bird expert it might give me info on blue footed boobies first.
Apple literally allows them to do that via MDM already so what exactly is your point here?
> Almost a pleasure, in fact

Could you elaborate a bit on your workflow that makes it almost enjoyable? My personal workflow can always use an upgrade and I'd love to hear what works for you!
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Well, I was taught using phonics, and then I wrote a paper that basically applied the idea to LLMs for constrained text generation. I'd say mission accomplished.
Have any good examples of someone doing this?
People have different preferences.

Personally I have set `browser.link.open_newwindow = 1` in Firefox to force all links to open in the same tab, then I can middle-click to open in a new tab. This way I can do what I want without worrying about what the website author thinks I wanted.

It does have some downsides though. Some sites don't use <a> tags but instead <div> with JS to open the link, then you can't choose to open in a new tab (on the other hand they can't force you to open a new tab so it is sort of even on average). Some sites break because they are trying to launch a new window that communicates with the parent. But overall I think it is a big improvement to the web.
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I think you absolutely have hit the nail on the head in your arguments here.

E-sports leagues want the tool to be consistent across the years, and want to make sure their top players are able to maintain their elite status for the headlines and press they get. Games that cater to e-sports leagues tend to be come very much about power players; fun is secondary to winning.

That is incompatible with a company that seems to want to make fun things for a family to play, like Nintendo.

Copyright striking everything is one issue, but not wanting to bend over backwards for e-sports is a different thing entirely; and I think it makes sense for a massive company like Nintendo.
In fact, I was taught the graphical intuition via a few days of these sorts of exercises, before being introduced to the formulas. It worked really well, at least for 9th grade students in an acceleration program at the University of Minnesota (UMTYMP).
Hi, I'm the author of this txt file!

I just love that it's easier and faster to write than pure html code, or even markdown. You have an idea? Create a file, write some words, and it's done. I think it's quite like a personal diary, but here it's very public.

I really love html and css, though.
> so many wonderful engineers can't produce a source of income other than the search engine?

I get the essence of the comment and agree somewhat, but also feel;

There are plenty of other areas driving big revenue like adsense, youtube, play store, cloud and pixel.

I dont feel its fair to compare revenue to these in the same level of search. Search was a true unicorn business and took over the world, there only so many businesses that will ever reach those heights. If any of these businesses were stand alone they would be impressive. Its like looking at that photo of Arnold Schwarzenegger standing next to Andre the Giant, Arnie is a big guy, but there he doesn't look too significant.

I think, the bigger worry is their chrun and burn is going to limit take-up of future products. They need to do something like run new products in a lab type environment, not put the full weight of the weight of the brand behind them til they earn reasonable thresholds, then make them so they can be split out if teams want to take them independent should they decide to close.
> Just to get the facts right: The "bullshit fractal" Bitcoin is currently at about 50% of it's all time high, and is raising again constantly since beginning of 2023.

Is the economy of Bitlandia on the rise in real terms, or what? Huge export surplus, something like that? If not, then WTF is that to brag about?!?

Big unmotivated swings in the exchange rate are a failure in a currency. What you're crowing about is that as a currency, Bitcoin sucks.
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I think it all comes down to the culture of rewarding shipping new things, but not maintaining and iterating. If Microsoft was like Google they would have shut down Bing years ago.
We didn't have the world's strongest military until WWII, and even then, we had to ramp up to that.

The Brits, Spaniards and French didn't invade, they established colonies. These colonies actively engaged in trade and defense agreements with various native American tribes. At various times different tribes were aligned with one European nation or another, with the most famous example being the French and Indian War, with the Iroquois and Cherokee allying with the British and the Wabanaki, Abenaki, Shawnee, etc allying with the French.

Native American tribes and nations had deep seated rivalries and disputes going back centuries (just as the Europeans did), so there never was any kind of single unified America until the U.S. expanded across the continent.

Notably the British did not succeed in the War of Independence or the War of 1812, despite having a superior military and navy.
You think these farm kids are going to be groomed to be the next Gates if they're not working farms?
A complete global proper fix probably not, but at least in my area things are now better than a couple of years ago. The main reasons for the changes were mostly economical, but still.. Street lighting is being turned off during the night now, and is being replaced with LEDs with armatures which provide a focused beam. So compared with traditional lighting which was on all night and would illuminate everything within a fairly large radius, and alos upwards, I'd say it's positive overall.

Not really related to this particular reasearch, but anecdotally I seemed to be able to confirm https://www.mdpi.com/2075-4450/12/8/734 "Artificial Light Lowers Mate Attraction Success in Female Glow-Worms" in that a bigger area of my garden is now less illuminated during the time of the night crucial for glow-worms (because of the focused LED beam), and that area had a higher attraction success; assuming no other factors affect that. But it's really striking how in the well-lit parts females would be sitting on their spot in the grass, day after day, glowing a little bit less everyday towards the end, and then eventually disappear. Likely into death. Which just doesn't seem to happen at all in the darker area.
> OP literally said:

The comment I'm replying to literally does not say that, you're referencing an upstream comment by a different person. Did you mean to reply in a different thread?

I didn't take hahamrfunnyguy's comment in the way you seem to be taking it, but I'd be happy to learn that they don't support full-time labor for 12 year olds.
yeah LLM for swiftkey is kind of obvious
You're basically right. Here's the graph: https://www.desmos.com/calculator/lf3xerswdy
My complaint consists of many parts. I want externalities like pollution to be accounted for, but I also don't the bait-and-switch business practice of loss leaders where you're drawn with with a low price for the thing you want, and then struck with lots of additional costs that are plainly unreasonable. I want them to charge a fair price for every individual part.
Having the power to choose side load is a net benefit. For those that have any sort of fear, they simply just get apps from the official store.

Could and will people be taking advantage of by side loaded apps? The obvious answer is yes, it's a risk that allows for responsibility and freedom.
The interesting thing about AI is that if you would've asked me 5 years ago - I thought the absolute last jobs AI would impact would be art related.

Now it looks like it might be one of the first.

The mixing in the song is quite bad and the melody could use a little human touch, but if someone remastered this - it could be a hit!