skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
You never know until you check. There is a lot of things to understand by viewing the metadata. Also don't underestimate incompetence with many of the self-proclaimed pro-privacy companies. They might be expert in the VPN software but not in all aspects of system and network administration.
300m fine on 1100m of sales.

If their margins are under 30ish percentage it would wipe out any profit made on the illegal activity. Personally i think its a rather fitting fine and this model should be used more often.....
> the plaintiff should go to an elected judge and have their accuser brought to justice

and what if the accusers are outside local jurisdiction?
This is almost word for word the proof that would appear in a solid number theory textbook. Very nice.
While JavaScript didn't have BigInt until a couple years ago, it did start with all numbers being floats. JSVMs optimize heavily for the small integer (SMI) case. They do both dynamic profiling, speculative optimization, and significant type analysis to get very good code for the SMI cases.
Surprised this didn’t mention the reason for all of this: that a high-speed signal runs not in the trace, but in the field between the trace and the nearest ground plane. And in differential pairs, also between trace and the virtual ground plane between the two traces. Keeping this in mind makes the rules and potential mistakes clearer.
For me it's sad how I have to use Edge (because it's already included in Windows) due to many pages don't suporting Firefox. Google has made all they could to make both people and developers to use Chrome and Chrome-based browsers.
Agreed.

I mean democracies tell each other what to do in one form or another all the time. The US is not at all shy about pushing other countries around. Sometimes that's good, sometimes that's bad.

So much international law is about synchronizing laws to allow for dealing with these kind of things within a framework where we agree on the common principles.

Sad to say for the US ranters but defamation is a common principle and exists just as much within US law (albiet varying implementations).
They still haven't learned their lesson and its algorithm is just as bad as the rest of the other social networks, if not the worst.

Perhaps they should be fined in the millions like the rest of the other social network companies like Facebook, Instagram, etc. Repeat offences should be increased into the billions if possible.
the problem is, if this starts to become common, countries will move to make it illegal not to store data...
Fox News not mentioned in OP. Context?
This makes me highly suspicious that they’re setting up a sting on mullvlad. There doesn’t seem to be much other reasons to serve a physical warrant other then to establish non-compliance with some law they may interpret differently.
Hacker News skews very American so that statement can be made about most topic - my suspicion is that most of the comments against google are also from Americans
Its funny, how the VPN providers basically become the avatars of the old anarchic web and the constant buisness and government overreach makes them ever stronger. Its basically a old "freedom" tax.
Getting Started with Rust and GPT-3
It's likely not the kind of data they were after so there was no point in seizing equipment.
the site is ad infested and slow as hell to load, such a fall from their former grace when they were seen as an internet darling

This is the cycle of a lot of ad-driven businesses. They start out sleek and quick to load because they’re ad-free. They grow insanely fast and burn runway. Then they begin loading the site down with ads to monetize the users. This leads to a gradual exodus and eventual death (or death in the star-like sense of eternal irrelevance).

It seems to be an unstable equilibrium. If you want to stay on top in terms of users and actually make money you’ve got to have a lean and highly optimized site with non-intrusive ads. On the other hand, if you give in to the temptation to take any ad who wants you then you doom the site in exchange for a short term profit.
You probably don't believe a library or book store should be sued if they sell a book with defamatory content, so why do you think Google should be here?

The connection between wrongdoing by Google is even more attenuated here, since Google is mostly an indexer, with limited curation.
“JK Rowling critic forced to publicly apologize for calling her a Nazi after lawsuit threat. Self-professed 'drag queen' and 'jazz hands enthusiast' apologized to JK Rowling 'for causing potential upset'”

Can’t wait for the rich to shop around to the best defamation venue and take down all the Google links with a $500k-ish threat each.
Replacing Ngrok with Frp
As is the parent comment. Playing moderator is also against the HN guidelines.
Both proton and pass are things I use every day on Linux, naming things is just hard and it only gets harder as more projects come along.
You are correct that money doesn't enter into it (at least directly).

The Dean Martin paraphrase however is not quit correct. Having EU people on your mailing list does not necessarily make you subject to GDPR. It depends on where you are, and possibly on your intent.

The territorial rules for GDPR are:

1. It applies if you are in the Union, regardless of where the people on your mailing list are and regardless of whether processing their data takes place in the Union or not.

2. If you are not in the Union, GDPR applies to the processing of data of people in the Union where the processing activities are related to ...

2a. ... the offering of goods or services (regardless of whether payment is required or not) to people in the Union, or

2b. ... the monitoring of the behavior as far as their behavior takes place within the Union.

Whether or not you are offering goods or services to people in the Union depends on whether you envisage to do so. The mere accessibility of your website from the Union is not sufficient.

For example if you were running a mailing list for your small city's chess club and someone in the EU found your site and signed up, you probably would not have any GDPR obligations to them.

If your chess club site also sold chess equipment that still probably wouldn't be enough unless you did something to indicate that you were actually trying to include EU. For example if your site had localization for all major EU languages, gave pricing in both dollars and Euros, and included VAT you would be covered by GDPR.

But if the site is only in English (and maybe Spanish), gives pricing in dollars and only accepts dollars, only collects US sales taxes, only ships via USPS, and doesn't have anything that indicates you might be catering to EU people, you are probably in the clear.
Maybe if you have a limited scope of morality and you don’t want to think hard, sure.
Civil defamation suit vs government fine, so it's hard to compare directly. A fine would be based on some fixed wording in law, where a civil suit is open to define damages in many ways. And the leverage in the Fox lawsuit was pretty heavy, avoiding lots of testimony that wouldn't play well.
They had 1.65B net income in last year, and they have to pay 0.06B every year for five years, so it's around 4% of their net income. It's not business ending or severe but it isn't exactly cheap.

Also as the article notes, future years may not be as rosy and it will not be fun having a fixed cost hanging over their head.
I'm not sure you can ground a copyright judgment based on whether something is truly intelligent, or just looks like it.

The means through which a piece of content has been produced is totally irrelevant. The original content has to be distinguishable in the new one for copyright laws to apply. This has been judged over and over when sampling became more and more widespread. Some DJ sampled the original songs blatantly and thus had to pay the original authors. Others applied so many sound transformations that it was basically impossible to identify and thus copyright was basically impossible to apply.
France has south of France, vineyards, and a ton of art and fashion.

Turkey has sunny locations.

England is rainy.
Music, literature and the royals are its reason for visiting
>> Hopefully this signals better vaccines on the horizon for China

Better vaccines everywhere would be good. mRNA vaccines were laughably crappy - essentially just a temporary prophylactic.
Keep in mind, it's the worst experience compared to macOS and Windows. The issues are usually display/GUI-related. HiDPI scaling is still buggy regardless of distro/DE. As recently as the past month I have experienced UI scaling issues on KDE and Unity, so most windows are scaling correctly, but occasionally windows will open at the default scaling, and it's built-in apps like Dolphin file manager. Spotify always requires a config file change to get scaling to work. Seems like an easy fix on their end but whatever. GNOME is the least-buggy DE I have tried, but it's also relatively simple.

Worst thing I have run into in the last couple of months would probably be display flickering/artifacts with my NVidia RTX 3060 running Fedora 38 Workstation.
How did you pay?
Even if you’re always rebuilding everything, where makefiles win over a flat script is being able to group things, e.g.

CFLAGS = -g -O2

all: foo
foo: ; # how to build foo
install: install-foo
install-foo: ; # how to install foo
clean: clean-foo
clean-foo: ; # how to clean foo

all: bar
# etc.

This is somewhat similar to AWK’s “pattern-action” structure and perhaps literate programming, but otherwise I struggle to describe how it fits into the world of programming languages.

The ability to override variables from the command line is also pretty sweet: e.g. with the above you can get a non-optimized build with `make CFLAGS=-O0 clean all`. But I guess by using ${CFLAGS=...} you could get `CFLAGS=-O0 ./build.sh` to work as well.
>Amoroso’s bakery products can be flash-frozen and shipped worldwide

Cool, I didn't know that.
Good call. I love philly cheesesteaks, but honestly I don't find the roll all that special (and yes I've had it at the classic places in philly). I think a typical vietnamese banh mi roll is probably going to be honestly better and work great for the sandwich.
> My only guess is that they are all from USA and have a very "american" view of things.

I would guess it's narrower than that, and what you're seeing is mostly from SV. Even then, not everyone in SV is so willing to cut Google slack. But they can be the loudest on HN at times.
Ha I've never seen this. Excellent.
Show HN: InsightFlow
Hey everyone, sharing InsightFlow, a (long) weekend project I made using GPT4. I am bit anxious sharing it since I barely knew how to code in Python before but I was simply amazed on how much GPT was able to help me write something that actually works (I hope).

My goal was to create a library that empowers people to ask questions from their data, regardless of its source. InsightFlow does just that, it has some modules that allow s parsing information existing in (for now) video (its audio part), html, and in general text and provides a chat interface on top.

I would love to expand this to image and eventually video parsing. I know there are some companies that aim for the same but I could not find an opensouce alternative for it. I tried making it modular so different modalities can be added later on.
Also, just because a company doesn't get your name, doesn't mean they don't know every little thing about you. PPI doesn't include my fingerprint, but Google 100% has my online fingerprint.
We fought a revolution against self-righteous European moralism (and taxes), so, yes.
Is this a requirement from the US government for Verisign?
You can’t ignore what forever?

Your position simply requires Google to remove anything that anybody asks them to from their results, doesn’t it?
Building a case to destroy a democratically elected government vs selling something that is against sanctions.

The idea that 750m is enough to pay your blood debts for actively inciting an insurrection while knowing everything you say is false is actually the odd one out, not a corporation selling things it knowingly shouldn't.
Google exercises a great deal of editorial discretion on the content they present to the user. The days of 'mostly an indexer' stopped years ago.
Tor exists though fwiw
You mean Sealand?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Sealand
Your a bit more than 20 years late with the oil rig idea https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Sealand
Mullvad lets you pay with just an envelope of cash via the mail if you want.
Apparently you can literally mail them cash with your randomly generated user id on a card and they'll top up credit for you.
Mine, too. I had a sleepless night, so around 4:30 am CEST I started attacking a certain problem in an Android app. Wham!
I love this. When reading the article about people using south asian spices for cheesesteaks, I thought, gee that sounds amazing possibly even an improvement, I'd like to try that... and now I can get it philly too!

Humans can't resist mixing food cultures. And music. Always where the best stuff comes from.
That would be The Clock by Christian Marclay

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Clock_(2010_film)

https://boxd.it/4sp6
> People get to own stuff

Personal possessions, tools to work, a place to live, a pension - yes certainly.

However as you get beyond that, the 'natural justice' breaks down and it becomes more about the system a society uses to decide how its resources are allocated. Under the capitalist system, wealth concentrations are allowed - though this is not a defining feature of the system (with the concept of shareholding, ownership can be split up into many small pieces). However wealth agglomerates very readily in this system, and I'd argue that nowadays wealth concentrations are becoming a serious problem.

Under the social ownership model, society (through the state) uses a top down command and control system for allocating resources. We (even the US!) live in a mixed system, where capital or social ownership is used as has found to be most appropriate for each sector. It's roughly 50:50.

Notions like 'theft' become meaningless once you are into societal level resource allocation.
At least before, one could pay in cash in envelope.
Governments can and will just criminalize the act of peering with them, so any ISP/transit provider will be liable if they peer. Problem solved.
"Handy" is arguably not a loan-word since "hand" is German. And it kind of makes sense for it to mean mobile phone since it's a phone you carry around in your hand. "Handphone" is used to refer to mobile phones in parts of Asia as well.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/handphone
It does seem like government fines should in fact be higher then.
Writing Great Error Messages
So what happens to the corporate counsel who advised on the contract in such cases?
Not the same person. The Caroline af Ugglas on the ACQ board is this person:
https://www.acq.se/styrelsen/caroline-af-ugglas

This is the artist:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_af_Ugglas
> a quick investigation

So for example, going to their office and asking them ?
> It sounds a lot like you’re saying “small models are just as good” … which is false. No one believes that. … a fully trained larger model is going to be better.

You're absolutely right, a fully trained larger model _will_ be better. This is meant to be under the context of OP of a "limited compute", the statement I'm trying to make is “fully trained small models are just as good as a undertrained large model”.

> …but surely, the laws of diminishing returns applies here?

They do but it's diminishing in that the performance gains of larger models becomes less and less, while the training time required changes a lot. If I'm reading the first chart of figure 2, page 5 correctly, you a 5B vs 10B, the 10B needs almost 10x the training time for a 10% loss gain. and its a similar jump from 1B to 5B. My understanding is at this also starts flattening out, and that loss gain from each 10x becomes gradually lower and lower.

> Over all of time that compute budget is not fixed.

Realistically there is an upper bound to your compute budget. If you needed 1000GPUS for 30 days for a small model, you need 1000GPUS for 300 days for that ~10% at these smaller sizes, or 10,000GPUS for 30 days... You're going to become limited very quickly by time and/or money. There's a reason openai said they aren't training a model larger then GPT 4 at the moment - I don't think they can scale it from what I think is a ~1~2T model.
With how Proton handled the French climate activist debacle, who is going to trust this over pretty much any alternative if they're concerned about privacy or security?
Plato's Problem
> Which payment methods do you accept?
> We accept cash, Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Monero, bank wire, credit card, PayPal, Swish, Giropay, Eps transfer, Bancontact, iDEAL, and Przelewy24.

> Can I really pay with cash?
> You bet, and please! Stay anonymous all the way. Just put your cash and payment token (randomly generated on our website) in an envelope and send it to us. We accept the following currencies: EUR, USD, GBP, SEK, DKK, NOK, CHF, CAD, AUD, NZD.

https://mullvad.net/en/pricing/
If the library was informed of the defamatory content, was asked to remove it, complied, then restored it, was asked to remove it again, complied, restored it again, then finally started refusing to remove it, I’d say suing them is reasonable (which is what happened here as far as I can tell - the exact sequence of events is a bit hard to reconstruct).
Yep. Spotify had at one point completely eliminated my desire to torrent entire discographies, but my listening is starting to shift to Bandcamp and youtube-dl'd MP3s/M4As with Spotify getting increasingly worse both on the library front and on a technical level with its app.
A VPN provider who wouldn't be subject to a search warrant? I suppose only one operating from a country where warrants aren't required for a search by police, but that would presumably be much worse.

What's happened here is the best way it could possibly go. A warrant was needed which meant prosecutors / police had to meet a certain bar to conduct a search, and when the search happened the data does not exist anyway. That's exactly what you want from a VPN. This isn't "a shame", it's cause of celebration that the process actually worked and the provider can clearly demonstrate that.

I guess the only alternative would be a country which passes a law saying that VPN data (or something including VPN data) could never be searched, but that's extremely unlikely of any country at the moment.
A library or book store would probably get sued if they prominently featured a book called "avesteele is a horrible criminal" (full of unsubstantiated claims) and refused to remove it despite being asked nicely and eventually ordered to do so by a judge.
At least that forces legislators to be overt.
Hmm...going to have to try that out. I generally use tmux to manage my terminal session so that I can easily pick up where I left off when ssh inevitably drops and so far, that's worked out well.
True, and it's a good reminder that VPN does not mean "more privacy". It means more privacy in relation to specific parts and less to others.

You can get a lot of info through DNS queries for example.
That’s not entirely true. The UK and Australia use Imperial measurements quite frequently, especially for speed.
I might be uninformed here, but on the surface Mullvad says they don't record customer data but there's always a chance they might be recording some data or lying.

So I figure that authorities still obtained a search warrant to atleast see what data they can get their hands on and to verify that this is true. In that case, it doesn't really illustrate any disconnect.

> Basic knowledge and a quick investigation would make clear that Mullvad is not storing any customer data.

This is something more along the lines of trust. Sure you don't have to provide PII but Mullvad could supppsedly still be recording other data which would count as customer data.
Salmon cheesesteaks are a thing in phillys african american and Muslim neighborhoods.
I love tech. But you're implying that what tech means to me is basically just a large company. And in fact I don't love large tech companies. The Internet was much more enjoyable before a sales person got a hold of it. And while I do understand that a lot of really great engineering has come from within these companies it doesn't matter if they are abusing their users. Because Google loves it when their brand is associated with something positive. But Google should also be responsible for owning all of the negative their company and employees build.

Finally, I'm an American. I have a very dim view on the positive that Google, Facebook/Meta, Microsoft contribute to society. They're all for profit companies no longer being run with a strong engineering or customer focus. Their goal is to turn more profit. That's not the spirit of tech in my mind. I don't consider any of these companies strong technology contributors anymore. They employ a number of great engineers that still do amazing things. But the companies (the executives, the senior management, the board of directors, etc) are not in it to move the industry in a positive direction. They're in it to make more money. The cost of that misdirection is very high to all. These companies have impacted many lives in very negative ways even though many have never intentionally wanted to use, or be part of, their services. These companies need far more accountability. Hiding behind a company logo should not be something society continues to support.
Basically enough time and research has happened and cultural perception changes such that the formerly taboo science is less taboo.
I'm not american and I don't like this ruling. Google shouldn't be responsible for censoring the internet. If there is a site out there then Google should be allowed to link to it.
Mullvad has been very outspoken against the proposed "Chatcontrol" law.
I suspect retaliation. Just my 2 cents.

https://mullvad.net/en/chatcontrol
I just have it at Apple default. It is the same as scrolling windows, but "up" is interpreted differently, in my brain (not a kid. I'm an old fart).
Self made man
Because you don't understand how anything works.

Fox vs Dominion was not a criminal case, nor was the government involved. It was two private parties and one party (Dominion) was claiming $2 billion in damage to their business from defamation. The government doesn't do anything here other than a judge preceding over the case.

Dominion can even bring up business records, sales forecast and more to back up their damages claims. Ultimately Fox settled because they feared things from discovery going public and Dominion having a strong case against them. There was not even a judge involved in the settlement. It's the two private parties agreeing to end the lawsuit in exchange for terms, in this case payment.

Meanwhile with the Seagate case, this is in criminal territory, the government would be prosecuting the company directly but also has laws that defines the existence of fines and the size of the fines.
Less than 5 years to AGI?

An "AGI" that has to be retrained from scratch, with more data and more compute, and with a modified architecture, every time we want to improve its performance? An "AGI" that forgets every interaction as soon as it's over? Doesn't sound too general, or too practical, to me, and certainly not very much of an "intelligence".

If OpenAI or anyone else finds a way to get their models to train themselves over and over at minimal cost, like humans do, then we can maybe talk about a "general" "AI". Until then all they have is a system with a static performance that does not improve with experience, that is not even machine learning anymore and that is very far from whatever people imagine when they say "AGI".
You mean that we're going back to the Moon? Maybe even Mars?