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Ask HN: Abuse of Flagging and Downvotes on HN
Hi all,

I have repeatedly observed a very clear pattern where people abuse flagging and downvotes in a bad faith censorious and outright hostile and hateful manner.

Furthermore, it doesn't stop with one comment being buried for wrong think, rather the down voters promptly go through your recent comment history and flag arbitrary unrelated things. Completely mundane things, uncontroversial things, comments that were up for days with no ill will from anyone and had plenty of upvotes are suddenly flagged. Not subtle at all.

I believe this sort of behavior is not appropriate/healthy and will eventually kill the community. My question is whether you have observed similar things, please share your personal experience and opinions on this matter.

My suggestion is to show a public list of users who go on such flagging sprees.
If the website decides to offer content for free, then it may do so. If not, the website is entirely allowed to put up a paywall, or to display *non-targeted* advertisements. What the website is not allowed to do is mandate payment in the form of private information.
Maybe I'm drinking my own koolaid here but I don't feel safe when I use this Apple device regularly.

How does Apple establish "prior art" if I go public with it? Can someone else claim credit for it?
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Well, it depends on your system. In my experience, Emacs without native-comp is way snappier on Linux than on Mac and Windows -- and getting native-comp working is also much easier on Linux, which has a big impact. Large numbers of pixels (high-DPI / Retina displays) can increase stuttering and flickering in the GUI version, in which case performance can improve by using `emacs -nw` in a GPU-accelerated terminal (Kitty/Alacritty), or maybe by switching to a different GUI frontend (e.g. the NS Port vs. Mac Port on MacOS, or the X11 vs. PGTK version on Linux).
Or the two are linked via feedback such that social media makes depression worse and both are causally linked. It doesn’t have to be a one-way relationship.
IF you can solve data sync for your application, local first is simple & easy to develop and feels very responsive for users. Lots of business applications are now in that range. 10MB of ERP data is like 1 year of operating a medium sized company is the equivalent of a picture of my cat.
> I wish we could have it both ways somehow: a baseline level of widely available cheap care and an expensive tier for people who'd pay anything to get quick care.

I think that's quite common? There are both public and private clinics in Norway, but public health care only covers the public ones.

My wife and I visited a private clinic in Denmark to get NIPT test even though it was covered in Norway, because the process was longer in the public system (not too bad, but wasn't too expensive to just pay to have it done fast and we wanted to take a trip to Denmark anyway).

I know there's kind of a mix in Taiwan too.

The argument against having policies that encourages private clinics is that wealthy individuals with a lot of political influence might try to push for funding cuts for public clinics if they don't depend on them. And the best doctors might prefer to work for private clinics if the pay is better. All-in-all I think a mix is best though.
> Apple have been shipping various pieces of advanced AI in their consumer products for many years already

A few fun everyday examples:

- Facial recognition and the image classification/search in the Photos app

- Live Text recognition in images and videos

- Voice recognition by Siri (i.e. identifying different HomePod and Apple TV users)

- Realtime colour adjustments and other camera image processing

- Noise reduction and voice isolation microphone modes
Maybe they put too much trust in the US congress' functioning
It depends on my trust level of the thing in question. If I'm spot checking if a customer tampered with a file on their deployment usually the first or last 4-6 characters. Because it's unlikely they were attempting to forge access to their own system.

If I'm checking something I reasonably trust because I downloaded it over ssl from a proper source like a CentOS iso and there's no sum file. I'll check first 4-6, last 4-6 and find a 4-6 characters in the middle and scan for that sequence too.

If it's something I can have zero trust
like getting something from a torrent site I'll paste one right below the other because side by side is a bad way to do it.
That's not why the line was drawn.

> In the rest of this Substack post, I offer a preview of the evidence that a mental illness epidemic emerged around 2012

All of the charts have this line to highlight how the chart relates to the supposed theory of "problems starting in 2012". Not every chart will show anomalies around that time though.
I mean in general; I assume you're aware of the jokes on how ancient complaints about the newer generations being weak, disrespectful et. are.

I don't see how Haidt identifying as a centrist has any bearing on anything; the idea that "centrism" is apolitical is also untenable.
if you believe in the world ending, sure.
Would you (or do you) invest in that company over a different one whose share prices appreciate by a greater amount?

Would you accept less compensation if your employer cannot keep up with competitors?
This whole thing sounds so shady to me, can't believe this is how they are running a country.
Figure heads for causes like Greta aren't a new thing, sir.
Bluray is not lossless. Uncompressed 4k video streams are way over 10gbit range (it's a right pain)
Hmm, he seems to think that the criminal standard of proof (beyond a reasonable doubt) is equivalent to p<0.05 in the sciences. That is highly dubious. I'm surprised he doesn't know the by-now standard belief that p<0.05 is, itself, a criminal standard of proof (lol).
TL;DR: This is about offline communications and not the world in general. It also assumes that communication is achievable. In the real world (offline and online), we have problems with that. When you attempt to communicate online you are often redirected "through the gift shop" so you can be shown the exact number of ads such that you statistically won't give up and pick up the phone (and I'm sure phonecalls will have pre-roll ads at some point too).

In fact, ad-hoc random person-to-person communications online are gatekept by "the algorithm" which would rather answer your question directly to keep you from meeting another warm body online.
I am surprised we are this close to regional airliner. I would have thought any useful electric plane is not feasible yet. Maybe electric regional airliners will inject enough capital to increase the range gradually.
But that’s not the basis of his argument. His argument is based on the timing of when social media usage started. I mint argue 3-4 hours or social media use alone didn’t cause depression, but had to be combined with a causal factor
A month ago user O__________O complained about the same thing - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35230366

And I'll tell you the same thing I told them - a 'flag' is a form of 'downvote' (you can dislike this fact, but it doesn't change the fact)

No one is required to vote

No one is required to explain their vote

No one is required to vote like you do

No one is required to explain their vote to you
> I am always ready to yell at the cloud for that.

Yell at the cloud? Nicely done.
In the 90s in Colombia (perhaps all LATAM) we used "ordenador" but quickly fell out of use in favor of "computador", now only few old people occasionally call it "ordenador" in this country.
I'm not sure this would account for the increased number of girls allegedly cutting/poisoning themselves. According to the graph on an older article on his substack, the number of girls admitted to hospital from self-harm has gone up by 48% since 2010. Perhaps some of these cases would have been categorised as accidental in the past (or not even taken to hospital maybe) but all of them?
Why Prompt Engineering Is Nonsense
I'm using a smart plug that I can turn on via curl from a script of from its web server from my phone. However sleep to RAM has some advantage. I already entered the wake on demand rabbit hole and stopped at the first hurdles. Maybe I'll try again with the experience of this post.
That's the point; children would die otherwise, by the very biological nature of our species.

What the various kinds of "avoid coddling" types want is determining the details of what should be allowed to traumatize them, specifically, in order to shape society.
At most a few countries worldwide has anything resembling "state controlled healthcare" (in fact, I cant name any - Norway used to a couple of decadds ago, but bow have plenty of private providers)

Almost all countries with universal healthcare have widespread private services.

Many have their universal services provisioned entirely or in part from private providers.

When I had a gastroscopy a while back it was done in a private hospital but arranged by the NHS and paid by the NHS.

If I want a private MRI there are dozens of providers in London.
Something has to be behind the seemingly coordinated rise in depression among children globally, that's the leading indicator he's using to assess the problem. His argument is that it can't be anything other than social media.

You're making the case in the micro scale: what is one person's relationship with depression and social media, and he's arguing in the macro scale. Something has caused depression to spike in children worldwide. What could it be?
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When the exodus from Tumblr happened, the internet got a lot crazier and I am not yet sure that I mean the eccentric and quirky version of crazy here.

If platforms would have never listened to advertisers, we would not have this problem. And advertisers would still pay for attention. Youtube could have just said that you either accept all content or you won't get the attention. I doubt they would have lost any advertisers at all.
If you apply your own advice to the original comment in this thread, they were saying it was one of the easiest things we can do, not that it was sufficient by itself.

If I apply that interpretation of the original comment, and look at your comments as a rebuttal (which the strength of your language implies), it forces me to interpret them as "worrying about transportation is futile".

Even in this comment here:

> it's an incremental step, at best

You are implying my interpretation wasn't wrong. If it's a step "at best", then what is it at worst?
Thanks for setting up a limited free version. The UX is great.

I had some failures for huggingface and cohere. Replicate produced an output that was not rendered (but returned an answer in the network tab).

It would also be great to add:
https://docs.aleph-alpha.com/docs/introduction/luminous/
>My suggestion is to show a public list of users who go on such flagging sprees.

Vote history is not visible that I've ever seen - what makes you think you're going to encourage the community by making their voting histories public?
It is truly remarkable to which great lengths people go to justify their unhealthy relationship with social media. It is nearly the same as telling an alcoholic they have an alcohol problem and then hearing excuse after excuse and re-framing and mental gymnastics to jump around the elephant in the room.

I'm glad write-ups like this one are a thing.

Maybe our parents were indeed right when they told us we are glued to our devices and should go touch grass.
Flagging mafias that go through comment histories of people is several steps past that.
> The healthcare system in the west is just plain stupid.

What the hell is "the west" in this context? Do you have experience with every health care system in Europe? Why is "NZ" considered "the west"?

> In asia you can walk into a clinic and see a doctor in 30m.

You can in many places in Europe too.

The flip side of the asian systems can be incredibly overworked and stressed health care workers. I know the service in Taiwan is fantastic (though a bit stressful, was way busier than in Norway), but I also know a nurse working there saying the working conditions are quite awful. They also encourage doing way more testing than necessary. That makes it so testing is pipelined and efficient. You get economies of scale. But doing this is generally considered a very bad idea, because you can get false/misleading diagnosis and undergo unnecessary treatments with potentially bad side effects. Along with all the wasted time and resources that could have been spent working on actually sick people. Which in asian countries can mean that poor people don't get the resources they need to get treatment.
I agree with the sentiment, but for entirely different reasons.

An offline capable application that sometimes tries to sync can be called "Online with Extreme Latency", but that is not what true ~~Scotsman~~ offline is.

Offline/online is first and foremost about data locality and data ownership. In an online application (regardless of latency!) the source of truth is "the server". Offline application itself is the source of truth and "the server" is a slave.

The OP seems to be talking about thin vs fat clients. Fat client is still a client - it fetches data. Offline application is the data source for "the server", it's the server that has to adapt to local changes not the other way around. Naturally, this is problematic since now you have multiple sources of truth. However, shifting source of truth to "the server" does create online application with extreme latency - fat client.
That's not a silly question, it's in fact very questionable how much "RISC-V" would be left if you really tried to mold it into a traditional GPU design (nvidia, amd, powervr, etc.)
I use both ChatGPT and API. Mostly I would say I use it for work and when I learn Chinese, and Claude is in my mobile via Poe app, which I use for more casual talk or when I know the answer doesn't require advanced reasoning. Then I also use phind.com website, which I would say is like a better Bing (at least for programming queries).
I also agree that this is probably true, but it doesn't mean that his arguments are good.
Wind and solar the two darlings of climate catastrophists is less than 3% of the worlds energy consumption and they will not be able to help getting the 3 billion people who uses less energy than a US fridge per year into the modern era.

Fossile fuels is not going anywhere as it's used for the 4 pillars of modern society, steel, fertilizers, concrete and plastic for which there is no realistic alternative.

Wind and solar isn't advances, they are regressive technologies that themselves require fossile fuel to even become a reality and still keeps us with our intermittency issues.

Keep in mind that only 20% of a countrys energy consumption is electricity.

The only big breakthroughs that matter with energy and can work at scale would be things like fusion and molten salt generators.

Making our energy grid more and more fragile by pushing wind and solar is what isn't helpful.
"Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway."

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Andrew_S._Tanenbaum

The latency, however ...
Some other persepctives:

"Skier's left/right" for snow skiing. Ambiguity arises when looking uphill or downhill.

When riding on a float in Mardi Gras in New Orleans. You might be on the "driver's side" or "passenger's side". You could also be on the neutral ground side (left) or the other side. Or the rider could be on the "lake side" (left) or the river side (right). Parades run South to North and the Mississippi River would be on the rider's right and Lake Pontchartrain on the left.

Aviation uses a clock face (traffic is at your 2'oclock, northbound) to reference traffic at the pilot's right / front.
If the converse were true it wouldn't explain the rise in depression.
Depends. Some CDN are more than worth it. Hetzner has weak DDoS protection for example. Some CDN have caches inside the ISP network. It doesn't even get out. There are also cases where the local ISP may not peer with you even if you are in the same region. OVH was famous for this in Asia. It's not enough to be in the same region.
As an electronics/(retro)computing hobbyist the biggest problem to me about Quark is that it starts in real mode and to do any bare metal stuff you would have to jump through the 10 thousand hoops to just run some code.

It's a lot more work to use that than any Arm or AVR micro
No, this is much better and don't you dare question Oimo's design choices ever again. They don't need suggestions from mere mortals like us.
agree, whats your point?
Starting to get to the age where my oldest daughter is demanding access to social media because all her friends are using it. Surprised more parents aren’t aware of the harms.
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That’s a problem with the interpretation, and how results are presented to patients. The MRI scanner is working as intended but the humans are getting the probabilities wrong, as usual.
> Offline/online is first and foremost about data locality and data ownership.

not necessarily if the data is stored in a proprietary format.
Elizabeth Holmes is asking a judge to reverse her 'unjust' conviction
SolidRun Bedrock PC with the AMD Ryzen V3000 Series Coming (2022)
There are plenty of "old money" rich that are no longer "high net-worth" individually but their family name and other resources available to them more than make up for it.
My approach to my terminal tools is to avoid eye Candy as much as possible. It distracts and complicates without adding value. Eye candy often is not easily portable, and it can break.

I use color very intentionally to mean something. The only time I theme something is if it’s already themeable and I can set the theme to use 3 bit terminal colors so I can drive all themes from one place (my terminal profile).
It's all astonishing. I don't think it's so much surprised at the limitation as trying to explore the edges. Enjoying finding some of the emergent behaviours.
> Write code that is difficult to test and verify, so that only the most determined and adventurous developers will dare to attempt it.

And then you create job security for yourself!

Nobody will dare going on your turf or I mean the beautiful junk you created. With all the complexity and smelling code in place only you is “smart enough” to know how everything function. Since people that love to code would be so horrified you will be the only leader and maybe at some point the only expert and junk man, I mean coder of this junk. Since now you are so integrated to a part of how the system works nobody can fire you. You can still advance in your career. Thanks to how much complexity and buzz word you added to the pile of junk you can demonstrate you know what you are talking about to no so good managers in tech. Words like micro services, kubernetes, Kafka, istio, Falco, Vault, (add the last flavor)… Even though all this have no real value for the current state of your projects. Barely doing X events/s and making complexity of the system goes from O(n) to O(n^2).

But who cares? You have the most secured job and your career possibly is great.
The industrial revolution radically increased slavery.

Read the history of the cotton gin and then how steam power made larger transportation easier and expanded populations to consume cotton and tobacco. Industrially produced guns and other tools helped "manage" slaves and later prisoners.

Post-civil war, industrial prison system instituted chain gangs to recreate "legal" slavery and forced prison labor still exists in many states.
I'm not sure what your argument is. Sophisticated investors don't invest in obvious scams. That's tautologically true. Does that mean we should just watch and do nothing while people get scammed?

The thing is, nobody is born sophisticated and there are many ways to get hurt in financial markets in the absence of scams even if you're intelligent and do your homework.

You mention index trackers, but they are no silver bullet. Their mechanism is basically to buy more of stocks that go up, and to sell those stocks that stumble badly. The more people rely on index trackers (exchange traded or not) the more volatile they'll become, and because index funds use such a simple trading strategy it's easy to front-run or otherwise exploit them. Furthermore, index trackers depend on active investors for price discovery, and the fewer active investors you have the worse index funds will perform. Relying on a vanguard ETF might continue to work, but to assume that it will is hopelessly naïve. It's no coincidence that ETFs got so popular with interest rates at 0 and a fed that made stonks go up.
https://archive.ph/kNEyR
Consider that Americans tax payers pay about $5k/year on average for Medicare and Medicaid that most of them don't (yet) qualify for before they even starting to pay those private insurances. People in most other countries can pay a lot privately before getting close to what the average American tax payer pays for healthcare.

The point is that it's an option that is available. Most people in Europe just has a base level health coverage that means most of us don't feel it's justified to take up additional cover.
The suggestion is to expose those who downvote and flag not just one comment but all comments by a user and not just in one thread but across unrelated threads and comments. As well as groups that coordinate in this manner.

I don't know if it is viable or how else to fix the problem, just throwing an idea out there to generate a discussion.
Building telescopes on the Moon is becoming an achievable goal
It's still just guessing. Can we please go from "plausible" to "we studied this"?
> "Them using awful aliases like wget and curl didn't help. Seriously, what were they thinking?

Seriously they were thinking "if people open our new shell, type a command they expect to work and get an error, they will quit it and never come back. Let's make some aliases for common commands to give people a helping hand so that `cd` and `dir` and `type` and `move` and so on from command prompt, and `echo` and `ls` and `cat` and `md` and `ps` and `mv` and so on from Unix shell, all do something useful. If people have to start right in with PowerShell specific `gci` (get-childitem) and `sl` (set-location) and `mi` (move-item) that will be too unfriendly and too steep learning curve.

It was a great idea; if you're a Linux user you're well aware that the same command can behave differently on different systems (see: grep, egrep, fgrep, POSIX standards vs GNU utilities) and both aware and comfortable with customising your environment with startup scripts (removing aliases if you don't want them). On the other hand if they didn't do that, they were going to get grief from the Windows side (breaking backwards compatibility) and from the Linux side ('all shells must be POSIX'). Damned if they do, damned if they don't. At the time (~2006) PowerShell was Windows only and CURL was not a common Windows tool.
Out of curiosity - Do you make much money from selling templates like this? What does the time investment/income equation look like?
What about monitoring variable levels of social media consumption with the individual levels of depression / anxiety.

I have periods of higher and lower social media usage. And I have noticed that there is a strong inverse correlation with my mental health.

My personal experience is just anecdotal evidence but a study with time variation may eliminate a lot of individual factors ( e.g people with depressing nature using more social media) but leave open the question if depression causes the increase of social media or is there other way around. ( I think thant both)