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Please don't take HN threads into gender flamewar hell. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: you've unfortunately been posting unsubstantive/flamebait/swipe comments repeatedly - e.g.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35496316

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35443531

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34844698

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34843974

Can you please stop? We have to ban accounts that do this. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.
It means less hardware/weight on the actual rocket.
>A bit like how Poker sites give you better cards in the beginning.

As a former online poker pro, this is probably the most idiotic thing I've read on this site.
>Plus it's obvious that the US government is doing everything in their power to have Musk on as short of a leash as possible.

What do you mean by this?
This is not a problem with AGI or alignment or anything like that, it's a problem with someone else sneaking inputs into your machine using tricks like white font colours and javascript and stuff like that. It's not about self driving cars it's about other people grabbing the steering wheel. These models literally only respond to the text they're inputted, and if they had alignment or interests or intelligence at all that would be when prompt injection stopped working.
> cede any control over their software stack

Except, from what I understand they'll use Android Automotive (not to be confused with Android Auto).
I think it's way better than 70%, probably 95%+ even with bad data and poor prompts. I'd have to run more numbers but it's definitely better than 70%.

You can get to 99.9%+ with good data and well designed prompts. I'm sure it would be above 90% even with almost intentionally bad prompts, tbh.
The counter to "sunlight is the best disinfectant" is "oxygen is the best accelerant".
Probably DHH’s continued prominence in the community.
MCT was Mars Colonial Transport
It's a bit funny how you refused to moderate when the dominant narrative aligned with the one Garry Tan has been trying to push.
> passerby's walking past Lee gasping his last breaths for help is indicative of the civil rot happening in our cities

We don't know what was happening in those cases. For example, we don't know those passers-by did or didn't actually see. Let's not make the same mistake all over again of projecting a pre-existing narrative onto a paucity of facts. (I don't mean to pick on you personally. We all do this, of course.)

Edit: FWIW, there's a long history of belief about bystander apathy which hasn't held up under scrutiny. Related:

Surveillance cameras debunk the bystander effect - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20417986 - July 2019 (161 comments)

Killer of Kitty Genovese Dies in Prison (Origin of “Bystander Effect”) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11430051 - April 2016 (3 comments)
That sounds reasonable enough, thanks. It looks like tolls generate ~750M currently and BART shortfall is ~330M. So, it's doable if we're able to push through an increase of 50% on tolls.

I wasn't able to easily look up our highway spending budget.
https://twitter.com/punished_cait/status/1628002713937092610...
The Only Question You Need to Ask ChatGPT (Peter Watts)
Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35573856
You are confused so you try to get everyone around you to redefine their vocabulary.
Ask HN: US-based non-enterprise programming conferences?
What are some US-based conferences for people interested in software or computer science? Topics can be broad or narrow, but ideally:

- accessible to a range of working professionals (and not an academic colloquium for a small circle of graduate students)

- not focused on enterprise and big business (e.g., not Snowflake Summit or Databricks Summit)

- mostly focused on topics in software, computer science, and programming languages (not hardware makers/hackers)

- preferably with a strong component of bringing people together in person to share some kind of passion, project, or personal interest

Suggestions?
Thomas Edison Was a “Patent Troll” (2014)
https://slate.com/technology/2014/05/thomas-edison-charles-g...
Electrifying Everything Became a Key Climate Solution
Some old time programmers could program with just their brains, basically see code, and output working code into a terminal with minimal fixes. This was a must since computers were shared and they were very expensive to use. My feeling is that 10x programmers can do the same. Being able to program in your brain is a huge advantage. I've never worked with one but I have no doubt they exist.

I'm no genius, not even close, but in my math classes, I did so many practice problems related to a subject that after a while I was able to solve some problems in my head without having to write anything down. Super programers aren't necessarily geniuses but they can use their brain to a greater extent before they start programming. I suspect.
> I wonder why they don't plan to execute the flip and landing burn with the ship, just for additional test data

There's been a lot of speculation about this over the last week, and consensus seems to be they decided they were trying to do too much on the first launch, and they should limit the scope down to just the "essentials" and learn from that.

They don't want to over complicate things.
Not sure how to feel about this article. It's not just presentation of boring facts; it vividly goes out of its way to ensure you feel it in your guts just how much this person deserves your hate. It feels like a superbly written character assassination, but of a blatantly guilty and despicable person (if he wasn't before, he certainly is now - and that's kinda the point of the article).

I'm left wondering whether I should be approving of it or be disgusted by it. (in an 'if you tortured and killed Hitler using an elegant but brutal torture chamber, does that make you the good guy or the bad guy' manner).
‘I didn’t give permission’: Do AI’s backers care about data law breaches?
That actually clears up a lot! I want to add that I didn’t mean that as a dig—I know you’re all doing fabulous work.
Good question! I think there are two approaches to it, one of which is interesting:

1. Why do sportspeople/influencers/singers make millions while young mathematicians/physicists/writers/poets/sculptors/etc languish in obscurity, most of the time penniless. Why did Yitang Zhang (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yitang_Zhang) have to do accounting of a Subway franchise and deliver food? Why did Abel have to die of tuberculosis and poverty. Posed this way, the question is mundane and the answer is simple: Most people value certain things and are willing to pay for them and are not interested in and are unwilling for other things.

2. However, there are stories that would be compelling to a mass audience. You mention Germain, her story would be a great period drama (backdrop of Revolution, being a woman scholar in an antagonistic society, etc.) There are many other similar stories: Maria Gaetana Agnesi, Sofya Kovalevskaya. This would be a great Netflix series, one episode for each perhaps. If these stories are not spicy enough for modern streaming tastes, e.g. not enough sex or adventure (Germain never married, Agnesi was very religious, Kovalevskaya was married), one can use biographies of Ada Lovelace (gambling, mad&bad Lord Byron, insanity) or Émilie du Châtelet (lovers with Voltaire, 'nuff said). Or, if there's production budget, Hypatia.

So the questions is: why are these stories not told more often? Hard to tell. Probably because (1) producers worry that any mention of math or science will turn off potential viewers (2) screenwriters ar just not that familiar with this people. I think (2) is teh larger factor.
My (uninformed!) theory is that dreams are just what brains/neurons appear to do when the driving signal (thought) is mostly disconnected, but the filter (interpretation) is still active.

I.e. just neural noise, following pathway patterns by biological necessity, but shaped into conceptual patterns by our overactive pattern matchers which do a ton of work to arrange input into a limited set of "observations".

If that's true, nothing we ever dream is truly novel, but just assembled or permuted from the giant set of our own known or imagined pieces.

Which seems pretty consistent with my dreams, at least. And it explains the phenomenon be being unable to recognize the dream state without altering it. Heisendreams!
In interviews, (US) General Stanley McChrystal has said he prefers backgammon to chess because it involves both strategy and chance.
He got a single fact wrong which he corrected well before going on Hasan’s show.

The media (liberal and right wing) and govt are out to get Taibbi because he has exposed swaths of deceptions and actually reports truths.

Jimmy Dore will provide clarity after whatever propaganda you might have read about Taibbi:

https://youtu.be/irf1pNjnEKA
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This is just a state of play issue. It's not good enough YET.

On cost: 3.5 is 1/15th the cost, and a bunch faster though supports less context, so it's worth experimenting with which parts of tasks need GPT-4 and which need 3.5 (perhaps a feature where GPT-4 manages the main tasking / verification and 3.5 handles the individual small tasks - even if GPT has to be called 15 times to get the same result, this approach wins).

On functionality: yeah, this is just some person's plaything. Reading the code it doesn't seem particularly well production grade (like many a python passion program). Something built similarly with a decent architecture (multi-agent + using an approach that automatically optimizes tasks) I can see this getting cheaper and better easily.

Just like in software dev, where we write a spec, write a plan, write acceptance criteria, write code, write tests, run tests, iterate, Auto-GPT type software needs a similar framework to work within that is not just defined by the code, but by generalizing that to an architecture. https://github.com/daveshap/raven is an interesting project exploring some of this.
It's not like it stops people from just using their phone in a standalone way, which is what I do even with CarPlay. Bluetooth and I don't get along, and I was prompted to activate Siri and all kinds of other stuff that I have disabled on my phone when I tried it. No thanks, it works fine on its own.
I also trust Carplay and Android Auto security since no data is sent out of the phone.
Compressing it using JPEG2000. You can actually decompress the image using an off-the-shelf JPEG2000 decoder.
If the net goes down, do you still have a job? Any liquid money left? Survivalists better treat their staff damn well when the sh*t hits the fan or they'll turn into fertilizer.

Also, no matter what you hoard or stash, you have nothing that compares to military-grade hardware. Which suggests your survival will require compromising with those who have control over military remnants.
Gravitation was literally about predicting future positions of the stars, and was successful because it did so much better then any geocentric model. How is that not a loss minimization activity?

And before we had it, epicycles were steadily increasing in complexity to explain every new local astronomical observation, but that model was popular because it gives a very efficient initial fit of the easiest data to obtain (i.e. the moon actually does go around the Earth, and with only 1 reference point the Sun appears to go round the Earth too). But of course once you have a heliocentric theory, you can throw all those parameters and every new prediction lines up nearly perfectly (accounting for how much longer it would take before we had precise enough orbital measurements to need Relativity to fully model it).
Id like to propose Altman’s law: the amount of energy needed to refute bullshit generated by linguistic AI is two orders of magnitude higher than it takes to create it.
http://web.archive.org/web/20200216101523/https://www.cityla...
I'll agree to your premise, but I'm relying on the combination of the recent guidance from the Copyright Office on AI generated output (ie: the output cannot receive copyright) with Clean Room techniques, optionally followed by a human transformation. I agree that if the output is a character named Iron Man, then no dice; if, however, the output is a new song that sounds similar to the original song but isn't the same, then I suspect that this will clear the bar for copyright.
http://web.archive.org/web/20230410210145/https://www.nytime...
Reminds me why I went into boring SAAS instead of gaming in the early oughts: games are too hit driven and too many passionate people want to do it anyway. So there is no safe way to a balanced, financially stable life except grinding out sequels for big name publishers.

Still I do have regrets and keep promising myself I'll make the time someday... once I'm financially secure. Props to them for taking risks on hard sell products. It enriches us all.
I feel like Zig can dominate the shellcode space, especially with pluggable allocators and minimalism. Is there any work towards outputting a naked payload for the lack of a better word? Given just the ISA, calling convention etc., producing something that starts from main() and does nothing but what is contained within main?
I have a similar adage that says, the notion that evil triumphs when good men do nothing is inaccurate. It's more like "1 evil person will triumph unless 1000 good men do something."
The "brainwashing" I refer to in nazi germany would be the initial racist belief in "aryans" and their supposed superiority. Sure, once someone had been indoctrinated with such state sponsored quasi-religious propaganda, one could say that the looting and pillaging followed logically. But it followed logically from an unprovable belief in a racist utopian future, which was only falsified by their defeat (at the hands of not just the USSR, but the western liberal democracies you seem bent on demonizing).

Likewise, the looting and starvation of Ukraine and the conquest of the Baltics under Stalin, and the subjugation of Central and Eastern Europe, the mass murder of Poles, the invasions to put down popular democratic movements in Czechoslovakia and Hungary were forms of expansionist pillaging, just as the looting of Ukraine is today, which follow "logically" from a total ideology once a population is properly indoctrinated. Of course not to "open markets" but to spread the communism which apparently everyone loves so much it must be enforced at gunpoint. If you object so strenuously to the term "brainwashing" then "propagandizing" and/or failing that instilling terror in the populace would work equally well. But let's not be ahistorical and pretend that the collectivization and industrialization of the USSR didn't come at the cost of tens of millions of lives and as a result of an expansionist, imperialist series of conquests.
You can quickly scroll through, that’s what I did.
Is there any indication from OpenAI people that there are low hanging fruits to be picked in this direction?
(2009) - The linked page says 2020 at the bottom, but this apparently identical page[1] says 2009.

1. https://web.stanford.edu/class/cs140/projects/pintos/pintos_...
This relates to Fordism.
Particularly, the part where they pay workers high enough wages to buy products.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fordism
Fair, it is one tap. However, it's in under your profile picture instead of having its own tab. I don't thing your profile is the most intuitive place to look for updates though. I just loaded my App Store app and went to check my updates, despite auto-update being enabled, I currently have 6 apps that need to be updated, the oldest of which being updated 4 days ago, but still sitting in pending updates[1].

[1]https://imgur.com/a/lGH8TtT
Interesting, one who makes an account to post about reconnaissance blind chess. Are you involved in it a lot? I know some who are post here.
Absolutely! Don't get rid of those CDs!

The dynamic-compression problem is so severe, widespread, and yet under-recognized that I don't think music will ever recover. I have 45s from the '80s that sound way better than "remastered" digital releases today. And that has nothing to do with "vinyl vs. digital." It's about everyone having access to devices capable of incredible fidelity today, and nothing but ruined trash to play on them.
You're in the same situation you are with iOS where old versions don't get all security vulnerabilities patched.

Android is a more modular system than iOS. Even if the core OS is out of date, many components are updated via Google Play.
you're arguing with Arthur C Clarke.
> CarPlay ... just “enables a car radio or head unit to be a display and a controller for an iOS device”.

Then why does it demand that Siri be enabled in order to complete the connection?
Yeah pretty much late to the get vaccinated fun party!
The method I found to work most consistent in getting to a lucid dream is to wear a wristwatch with a vibrating alarm (noisy alarm clock makes you too awake) and then set it to wake me after I've slept something like 4-5 hours. Then I'll be really tired and fall asleep again almost immediately, but when I'm falling asleep fast it's easier to notice and focus on hypnagogic patterns. Hypnagogic pattern are patterns of light you can see behind your eyelids as you fall asleep and then they become more and more focused until they turn into a dream. It's hard to keep the focus, but doing after waking up just slightly from a vibrating alarm clock and then not moving the body at all, makes it much easier as the patterns then come really fast and quickly turns into a dream and if you manage to keep the focus you basically just go from being awake and straight into a lucid dream. The problem is it fucks up sleep a bit, so should have a few hours extra to sleep in the morning.
Why? Mine certainly suddenly became that.
BBC interviewing Elon on Twitter https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XqJKAnN0-gM

Probably required watching before deciding if BBC's view here is unbiased
In case anybody else was puzzled, C4 grasses are those that "use the C4 carbon fixation pathway to increase their photosynthetic efficiency by reducing or suppressing photorespiration, which mainly occurs under low atmospheric CO2 concentration, high light, high temperature, drought, and salinity."

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_C4_plants
That was a lot of article for no answer
The only way to get off the rewrite treadmill is to have a good API. Half of ours suck because people focus more on the implementation details, also caring more about unit tests than integration tests when it should be the other way around. Similarly, those failing to see the value of a good API end up deprecating it for no reason.

We had zero say in most of the APIs we use. When I started demanding clients take part in our API design, they were pleasantly surprised.
Pretty crazy that 5 years ago, many cars went with an offline first approach to maps. You had to manually update the map database every year. I don’t even see that business model ever returning. Companies have figured out there’s way more money in running a map service. Ftr, teslas stream map tiles and if your car loses connectivity, you’re not going to see anything
> Thinking of ML under the PAC learning lens will show you why AGI isn't possible through just ML

Why? PAC looks a lot like how humans think

> But the Symbolists direction is also blocked by fundamental limits of math and CS with Gödel's work being one example.

Why? Gödel's incompleteness appoes equally well to humans as machines. It's an extremely technical statement about self-reference within an axiom systems, pointing out that it's possible to construct paradoxical sentences. That has nothing to do with general theorem proving about the world.
His hypocrisy is staggering.
I hope they get a shot of it externally in orbit, that would be cool
I spent my entire day moderating those threads—to the detriment of the rest of HN actually. That happens sometimes when one story takes all the moderation oxygen. See the links below. (Edit: I'm going to move them to a child comment and collapse it so as not to overload this thread with 40 links. They're there if anyone wants them.) The reason I didn't post the comment I mentioned in the GP was not lack of moderation, but the opposite: I was moderating so much that I didn't want to be accused of over-intervening.

If anyone cares - in the end the decisions I made were (1) to factor out the comments that were actually about Bob Lee into their own thread (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35457341), and (2) to let the other flamewar just burn since there wasn't anything we could to do stop it. The first decision was a good one—that thread spent many hours at the top of the front page. The second decision was probably good also—I have a pretty fine-tuned sense of what we can't control. But I do regret not posting that other reminder. I very much wanted to, and overruled myself—and now I wish I had left a better record of the mods upholding the value of not rushing to judgement. I was painfully aware of this at the time.

p.s. You might be wrong about Garry too. I happened to talk with him that morning and although he didn't try to influence how we handled the story on HN (people at YC don't do that), the direction of the conversation was opposite to what you're assuming. (In any case, if you're implying that Garry's politics influence HN moderation in any way, that's definitely wrong. We haven't changed anything since he came back to YC.)
What kind of startup costs do you have for webtastic? Do you pay for data or scrape it?
I mentioned conspiratorial thinking, and they doubled down! It's scary. Thank you for being a voice of rationality. You put it better than me.
The famous Microsoft numbering system! I think we should all skip GPT-Vista, but I can't wait for GPT-7.
Reducing our reliance on plastic may encourage more to be sold in bulk, or at least distributed in bulk, and packaged locally. Back in the day, Pepsi bottles were reused and not recycled.
Summary of AI Safety Discourse
OP was categorical and wrong.

I'm specific and right, but in the wrong place (HN is Reddit nowadays, preach to the choir or downvotes).

It's not preferred. It's historically accurate and I'm not the one with the burden of proof. He asserted the wrong thing, but that didn't make you question him.
There's been some controversy about data collection going the other way the Android side. https://www.motortrend.com/features/13-cool-facts-about-the-...

> As part of the agreement an automaker would have to enter with Google, Porsche said certain pieces of data must be collected and transmitted back to Mountain View, California. Stuff like vehicle speed, throttle position, coolant and oil temp, engine revs—basically Google wants a complete OBD2 dump whenever someone activates Android Auto.

> Google, for its part, disputes some of our source's assertions. Liz Markman, a Google spokesperson for Android Auto, said in a statement that Google does not collect some of the data listed by Porsche, such as throttle position and coolant temp. She declined to provide a full list of what data is collected, but emphasized that Android Auto users must opt in to share any information upon their first connection of their phone to a car. She said some of that data is used for safety (restricting typing and allowing only voice input when the car is not in "park," for example) and some is to used to optimize the app's user experience.

So seems like Android Auto requires at least some data from the car, as of 2015. Porsche ended up adding it in 2022, though, so maybe they stopped fighting that battle.

I'm not sure which I want less - the phone company getting data from my car, or the car company getting data from the phone.