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In my eyes there's a huge difference, they just look the same if you don't bother to listen to what he said and don't pay attention to Apple's response in the context of the way they run their business.

It wasn't a friendly response, but it was the solution to the problem. And when they only gave out cases later after complaints (announced during a special event to talk openly about this issue, after they had taken the time to look into it themselves) it was because the only problem was the media reaction. Millions and millions of people bought and loved the iPhone 4 even after they stopped giving out free cases a few months later. They all had the option of returning it for a full refund.

How many companies do you do business with that provide this level of service, big or small? I honestly can't think of any.
I personally don't understand why "bot farms" are that "scummy" or unfair. It was possibly the best way for the average indie developer to stand out without a large wallet (to buy banners). This rash of a problem is even more aggravated ever since incent PPI was banned.

Because of this, the era of rapidly acquiring users at scale on iOS is coming to an end. In it's place, developers will be forced to revert back to traditional ad buys in the form of banner ad networks with ridiculously "black 'box" targeting options.

I don't know if this is a bad thing since developers will spend more time figuring out their LTVs through each respective acquisition channel, but you sure as hell better be able to throw a few thousand dollars here and there and expect it to never back out.

All in all, Apple's app store policy should just read, "If you've solved discoverability on our app store, we're banning your method."
Would you be able to link me to said post? If true I'd love to read it to correct my flawed understanding.
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On the contrary, I think your point is very relevant to the issue. One of the most relevant responses. I would like to point out that I'm not claiming that Steve Jobs never lied, or that he didn't use distraction-- a famous example being the claim that Apple was not working on an ereader[1] because "people don't read anymore". Many people think this is a lie , but I disagree. People don't read as much as they did in the past, and thus obviously if Apple were to do something in that space they'd have to do something other than replicating the traditional "reading" experience. You can call that a distraction... or you can claim he was wrong because you have stats that show people are reading more now than they ever have (of physical books) but at best you'd have him with wrong facts.

However, I do wish you'd been specific about what statements about FaceTime you consider to be a lie. Now I'm forced to guess. The only issue about FaceTime that I can guess would be controversial was the claim that the protocol was going to be made open or a standard, or that something might be open sourced. (I'm thinking it was the former.)

I don't think this was a lie, but an error. I suspect that this was probably Steve Jobs idea and a decision he made at the relatively last minute which turned out to be problematic either because FaceTime uses technology that Apple had licensed, and thus couldn't open source or a protocol that was licensed and thus Apple couldn't standardize. Or, it may be that they are in the process of doing this, possibly with some standards body, and are mired in bureaucracy?

I really don't know what happened (I don't even know the specifics of the alleged lie).... but in order for there to be a lie, I think there needs to be more than just saying something that is not correct.

There are lots of sources of error- misremembering, misunderstanding, misbelieving, or misspeaking. There needs to be an intent to deceive for it to be a lie, in my book.

This is a positive defense of Bill Gates too-- was he simply in error? Did he think that the Mac UI which did make it into OS X was the "real technology" and that the "kernel" of NeXTSTEP was the entire Cocoa frameworks? In that viewpoint you could say that what Bill Gates said is strictly true, though the result of that-- Isaacson thinking that the NeXT acquisition was a waste of money other than getting Jobs, is pretty deceptive.

Its possible Bill Gates is old and wasn't thinking clearly, or was deceiving himself,, or Isaacson is completely misrepresenting what he said.

[1] Note that to date, Apple has never released a Kindle competitor. It has released very different things, the iPhone and iPad. They do allow you to read books, of course, with iBooks, but Apple wasn't chasing the Kindle, and the question was whether Apple was going to compete with the kindle.
The problem with your statement is that Isaacson interviewed Steve Jobs, his family members, and all his closest work associates and friends. His statements can't be dismissed as "lies about Steve Jobs" just because you or John Gruber don't like them or think so. What is reported in the biography come from multiple eye witness accounts of the people and events. What you are basically doing is libeling (since it is in written and not spoken word) Isaacson by accusing him without proof that he misreported events in his book. Please keep in mind that Steve Jobs specifically sought out Walter Isaacson to do the biography because he believed that he would tell the story completely and honestly, which is what Steve wanted.
Ressources about programming which are not primarily meant for programmers are always interesting to read/watch. The recipe metaphor reminds me of this (http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2011/0429/122429...) article which distinguishes between cooking recipes and mathematical formulae.
Everytime I see this article mentioned, I cringe. I am a man with relatively small hands and I can reach the right edge and even the upper right corner of my Motorola Atrix 2 (almost as big as a Galaxy S II) easily. Have you actually tried this? Unless he has tiny, child-like hands, those graphics have to be inaccurate.
It lets the phone stand on edge for facetime; the htc solution would have been a kickstand, adding tons of size and weight.
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> part of the deal-- the bigger part-- was burying the hatchet on all the patents microsoft was violating

It wasn't just patents--Microsoft had, via a third party, stolen the source code to QuickTime.
Part of this is Apple's fault. In general, Apple needs to look at some alternative ways to get apps in front of iOS user's eyes.

AppStore has been mostly untouched over its lifetime. I frequently scan the "Featured" category and "Top 25", but I rarely go deeper. The curation could be much broader and touch individual interests, but right now, it doesn't.

I would ask this to iOS developers: what would you like to see AppStore changed so that you might get additional exposure for your software?
Further, notably, the 4S for which they could have easily changed case designed if needed, uses this same essential external antenna design. I never owned a 4, but my 4S works fine.

Yes, it has two antennas and it also, unlike the iPhone 4, is both a CDMA and a GSM phone. Hence it needs multiple antennas for the different networks.

The antenna is still on the outside. You can still attenuate the signal by holding the phone with just the right death grip, as you could the iPhone 4, and every other phone on the market.

There was no problem to fix. This is a perfect example of how people spread lies -- with the help of media who wants to latch onto anything that might show controversy about Apple- to create these false impressions.

Reality: Every phone, if held in the right way, with have signal attenuation. This is basic physics.

Reality Distortion: There's a problem with the iPhone 4! It was fixed in the 4S!

What I can't understand is the persistence in constantly repeating these falsehoods, even after the truth comes out. I state the truth (the same design in the 4s) and then someone spouts the claim that it was "fixed" because the design did improve.

Well, every iPhone is going to improve on the last. That doesn't validate a false claim that the previous version was defective because it lacked future improvements!
I'm a fairly trusting person, but I think your Facebook permissions need to be rethought. I really doubt you need access to all my photos, family, and info that other people share with me.
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Really, what's the problem?

If you can look past the fact that Jobs didn't kiss the customer's ass you may realize that a CEO of a Fortune 500 company was personally responding to the customer's problem in the most effective way he could at the time.
The article states that the Android Market is much fairer. But from my experience bots are very much alive on the Android market.

A competing app was released within one week of mine late last October. I managed 1000 downloads in a week, he managed 10,000 in far less than that. His Google +1s also went to 381 almost immediately. His current # of Google +1s more than two months later: 389.
It was also criticized for not having a physical keyboard. The smartphone world has changed tremendously.
Exactly the same sentiment. That's the reason we did not launch with an Android version today. We will probably write it natively when the time comes. Titanium has proven to be a nightmare with Android.
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The large institutional investors will not participate unless there is something for them. There's a lot of shadiness all around, but essentially you are asking funds to sink tens or hundreds of millions of dollars into a new company which may be very risky. As a result, the baked-in pop gives those investors some assurance that they won't lose their shirts.

At the end of the day, the company needs to receive cash from somewhere and the banks don't want to carry the risk, so they offload it to their customers (who front the cash), and they essentially offload it to the public.
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I hate to go off-topic, but you don't have any contact info in your profile... what's your typical battery life like with that set-up? I was under the impression 5ish hours on the 13" but The Verge said 4 this week... made me re-think adopting the win7/MBA setup.
I personally don't understand why "bot farms" are that "scummy" or unfair.

They fraudulently make the claim "lots of people like this". User's believe a "most downloaded" means other people like them have made a decision and picked this little grain of wheat from the chaff.

Bot farming is fundamentally lying to your potential customers to the detriment of applications that should be on the list.
Really? You believe that, just because it was cheap for indies, that ranking an app more highly in the app store based on non-human downloads was beneficial to the human users of the app store?

I'm no Apple fanboy generally, but this seems like they're making a choice based on what's good for their human users, and that choice benefits some the developers at the expense of others. (IMO, it benefits the ones who are competing "fairly", but that doesn't even matter compared to "is it good for users?")
> How do you deal with entries like "Mom" or "Steve," names like "St. Clair" that may be entered dozens of different ways, or non-English names like "姚明" that may have dozens or hundreds of different possible romanizations, anglicizations, francizations, and spellings under any other language?

That's sort of beside the point, though. The question is: How does uploading my Address Book information provide a much more efficient or complete solution to that set of problems? I don't think that it does. In each case, you're dependent on heuristics and sometimes those heuristics are going to miss a match. If I were Twitter, I'd happily accept those misses in exchange for hitting the matches where people spell each other's first names and email addresses consistently (for example).

> how much effort are you willing to spend running your users' batteries down for something that you'd never yourself use?

You lost me there. My point was just that for Twitter, my iPhone CPU/battery are an "externality." So while they might spend more cycles doing server-side comparisons on the hashes my phone sends over, at least they're not paying to compute the hash values.
eek, No, the awkwardness comes from empathy reading your responses. I don't quite know how to respond (in honest bafflement, not back pedalling or because I feel some how convinced otherwise).

The RDF (as coined by the Mac team) was a very specific thing meant for steve jobs. I was more expanding on the fact that it isn't a unique skill/phenomenon and others use it.
> Many of them seem to have been explicitly encouraged to participate in international open source projects by their institution. Some appear to do it in order to receive credit from the institution.

Working on an open source project is sufficient to receive credits for an internship or a co-op in most Indian educational institutions. So, unfortunately most of them are not there for the love of open source but because they need the credits and something to put on their CV.

> Most of them expect to be told what to work on, and there is a distinct edge of subservience to their communication style with us that you don't see from non-Indian mentees.

This is a cultural thing. Even though you are their mentor, they expect you to play the role of a boss.
As I understand their placement of stores, the "cannibalization of customers" is how they determine if they have sufficiently saturated a metropolitan area. Basically, they keep building stores in a city until adding one more doesn't increase their overall business. The basic idea is that if they haven't saturated an area, then there's room for competitors to put in stores. I wish I could remember which publication I read this in.
With, critically, one important difference: it now has two cellular antennas. This way if one loses signal, say, due to being accidentally bridged, the phone switches to the other. This is why the gaps in the metal band are different between the 4 and the 4S. (Compare them.)

It's also why Consumer Reports endorsed the 4S but not the 4. Because it doesn't have the problem. Because they fixed it.

See http://www.pcworld.com/article/241186/new_iphone_4s_antenna_...
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1) bcrypt uses salts so that won't work at all

2) if you use some other computationally expensive hash you run into the problem of low powered mobile hardware. Remember you're not hashing 1 thing, but dozens or hundreds of phone numbers or email addresses.
The engineer in me says you could soundex/metaphone the names before adding them to the hash. The rest of me says apps just shouldn't be doing this.
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Hmmm. I've never been able to get Fedora installed from USB to the point it will let me boot off the Fedora partition. I'll try again with Ubuntu and see if I can get that working, then move from there to another distro.

Thanks for your input; I appreciate it.
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That's certainly true, but at some level you have to trust us right? Consider that the whole basis of foursquare is that you're telling us where you're going or using us to figure out where to go next. That information is probably a lot more sensitive than your address book.

I think we've earned that trust over the past 3 years, and will continue to earn it over and over again into the future by sticking to our word and being transparent about what happens to your data when you send it to us.

I'm not sure how else it could work?
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What computer would you rather use? A MacBook running Windows 7, or, say, a Lenovo ThinkPad running Mac OS X 10.7?

Gruber, like everyone else, knows that the ThinkPad is a legendary design and that there are many people who prefer it over everything else. Picking it to serve as his example of inferior hardware was his signal that only true Mac fans should read on, so I didn't. Kudos to him for letting me know up front that the rest of the article wasn't my cup of tea.

Wouldn't it be nice if my MacBook Pro wasn't... didn't... was less... I'll spare you the complaints, and the praise for the ThinkPad T-series. They could both learn from each other.

I realize it's a matter of opinion which piece of hardware is superior. That's the point. Gruber threw up a billboard in paragraph four that says, if you think it's at all unclear that the MacBook Pro is the greatest laptop design of all time, read no further. If even he doesn't think this bit of hagiography ought to be read by a broader audience, who are we to contradict him and post it to a broader audience on HN?
This indicates absolutely nothing. Maybe the competing app is better than yours. Maybe the developer is better at marketing than you are.

While I don't doubt that similar crap is going on in the Android market (likely on a much lesser scale since the stakes are so much lower), you can't simply chalk this particular case to "bots".
> You think what you've quoted from their privacy policy exonerates Twitter, but you may simply be misinterpreting it.

Exonerates? Not at all!

My point was just that (contrary to the article) Twitter doesn't make any claims whatsoever about how long they hold your Address Book data.

In fact, since it's mentioned along with other "data with which users may customize their account," that sort of implies that they consider it an integral and permanent part of your customized account profile. If someone told me that the data stays around until I choose to delete my account, I don't see anything in the privacy policy that would contradict that.
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Point noted amicably.
That blog post is horrible. I did this when it first hit, and I'll do it again:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6857506/3.5in.png

Purple is the Galaxy SII circle. Orange is the iPhone circle.

Apparently the iPhone gives you magically larger hands for your smaller device. The confirmation bias is so thick it hurts.
A depressingly large number of recently manufactured routers do, and it is on by default by mandate of the WiFi alliance. If the router is Cisco/Linksys, in many instances you can't disable it, at least as I understand it.
Not quite... it's a side effect of Apple's Interface Guidelines. In Linux, there are a few different sets of guidelines (if you're lucky), so God only knows what was in the mind of the developer at the time they worked on a GUI. To top it off, most Mac devs think a lot about the design of the GUI and concentrate on human/device interaction. A Linux dev is more likely to be focused on just getting the damn thing to work.

(There's merit in both approaches)
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Thanks. I'm surprised that actually worked here since proxy information is also semi locked down. I shall have to remember this trick in future.
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No doubt, it's up to us to decide where the balance actually lies.
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what a waste of time to read. I read the book, just like the author did, and every single book out there has typographical errors and mistakes. so does this one. who. fucking. cares. and Isaacson didn't need to tell us how wrong Gates was when he criticized the purchase of NeXT by Apple, because it is fucking obvious and Isaacson rightly didn't feel the need to point out the obvious in his book, much to his credit.
A Kantian ethicist might say that if you apply the first formulation of his categorical imperative you would find that it's immoral because if everyone were to do it, the whole system would stop working.
"Perhaps it’s because they’re engineers – who they told tend me, tend to have low energy – but I’d argue that 90% of people would not be as composed as these two, albeit, like ducks, they were paddling under the surface like maniacs. "

Really hard to parse this sentence the first time around, 'who they told tend me, tend to' ??
It seems like a terrible design choice to make the product uncomfortable to use in the common case to accommodate a single far less common use case.
> Translation: Whenever someone says something false about Steve Jobs, the only reason someone might correct them is because they're a koolaid drinking cultist who cannot tolerate the idea that Steve Jobs was anything other than the second coming of christ.

Not only does that not even slightly resemble anything I wrote (let alone what I think), frankly it's a ridiculous strawman that you shouldn't even employ for rhetorical points. Do you really not see any irony in the stated purpose of your posts in this thread and the content you've filled them with?

My point was only that yes, there was a very real basis for the RDF talk, and that yes, it appears that Steve Jobs was definitely problematic to work with and for. I've had that impression for a long time, especially since reading all the Folklore stories (the treatment of Jef Raskin was particularly unfortunate, whether or not the Mac was a better product for the project changes).

My understanding is that lots of people still loved doing so.

You asked

> People claim that Jobs can make you believe things that aren't true by simple application of charisma. Is anyone here willing to admit to being swindled in this way?

They might not be here, but the stories are right there. If you have a point other than the fact that someone not me on the internet is wrong and you know because you've seen a lot of keynotes in your time, let's talk.

I'm a fan of the work of Steve Jobs. He was not a magician, though, because there's no such thing. Personally, I think lionizing him reduces his accomplishments.

As for Isaacson's book, I read a few of the excerpts as they came out and they seemed like terrible writing, so I haven't read any of it since. Same reason I skipped Twilight.
It might help to define "better". Are you most concerned with virus detection, system performance, or adware and bloatedness?
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* if you don’t know what you’re supposed to do, or don’t understand something, ask.

* if you’re not able to complete your task by the deadline, for whatever reason, tell the team now, not later, and adjust as necessary.

* if you need help, get some.

should be drilled into every new starter at every company, startup or not. Unfortunately I've worked at a few companies where even graduate level employees are worried about asking questions, or get hostile answers from the older guys that seem bitter about new people coming in.
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