skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I'm not an expert on this, but from what I gather this all leads back to a power struggle between Jack Ma and Xi Jinping. Ma was ready to go public with AliPay and in the build up to it made a speech that criticised the government regulation as being out of date. This was viewed as a challenge to the governments power. Over the next few months the government moved to tighten regulations on companies like AliPay and disappeared Jack Ma. The government since then has basically completely taken over his entire empire, and sliced it up into pieces. This is basically Xi sending the message that private business in China will always defer to the government. All of this has natural absolutely tanked the value of China's tech sector. So people are hoping that now the worst of it is done and they no longer have enormous tech giants, but a series of smaller companies, that the government will return to being more hands off and in turn those smaller companies can return to more natural valuations.
Doctors are generally instructed to aim for optimal outcomes.

Suppose 98% of people taking a drug as prescribed live longer, but 2% don’t use as described and they offset the gains. Should the drug be prescribed or not?

Similarly, what if people who do annual checkups and get good numbers take worse care of themselves because their numbers are healthy?
The thing is, while Firefox should have better sandboxing, the tradeoff at the moment is that with Chromium you get better security, but less control and privacy off the bat. With Firefox, you get less security, but more control and privacy off the bat.
How important is the "knowing why" if the mistakes are still there? And in reverse, we "know" GPT doesn't use a calculator unless specially pointed at one.

Floating point errors creeping in is why we have to use quaternions instead of matrixes for 3D games. Apparently. I'd already given up on doing my own true-3D game engine by that point.

In some sense we "know why" humans make mistakes too — and in many fields from advertising to political zeitgeist we manipulate using knowledge of common human flaws.

On this basis I think the application of pedagogical and psychological studies to AI will be increasingly important.
"You don't need to kill a chasing bear to survive, you just need to run faster than your friend."

Problem with this approach is you run out of friends quick. People in bear country cary bear spray, have dogs to scare off bears and electric fences to keep them out.

We have tools and culture to not have to deal with/rely on survival of the fittest if we don't let fear control us - whether at work or in nature.
Do humans have sound reasoning?
It probably then skips a lot of rambling training data, and goes more to the more coherent input source material.
When typing this comment to you right now, my brain is coming up with the next word for me to type, just in time, as I'm typing. You could be reductive and call my brain a simple next token prediction engine too. Mozart was just a next note prediction engine when making his compositions. Einstein was just a next word prediction engine when forming his theory of relativity, etc.

The point I'm making is not that GPT is as intelligent as a brain, but rather that the ability to produce the next token in a way that forms arbitrarily intelligent responses to arbitrary questions, may well require something resembling real, actual intelligence.
Well, I agree that bicycles are one of the biggest sources of competition for e-scooters. As a regular cyclist, I haven't noticed any times where I'd need an e-scooter personally.

But theoretically:

1. Something easy to fold and carry on the bus/train can make it easier to use public transport in sparsely populated areas - if you could replace a 20 minute walk to the bus stop with a 10 minute scooter ride. Folding bikes, cool though they are, tend to be on the large side, and kind of expensive.

2. For apartment-dwellers in high-crime areas, it's easier to carry a scooter inside than a bicycle.

3. E-scooters could be more accessible to old people, overweight people, and people who don't want to sweat. Of course, that's not the demographics I generally see using them so make of that what you will. And e-scooters seem to be cheaper than e-bikes.

Is this a big enough market for e-scooters to thrive? I'm not sure.
At least Chrome does not have a price tag - In my country a MacBook equals 22 months of work on minimum wage
I do agree that AI is a great tool to generate whatever we want and I have no problem with that.
My only concern is abuse in the case of copyrights. And a partial copy is still under copyright and IP. Because the services aren’t completely free they might be subject to IP.

Let’s say I generate a picture with the style of a famous artist and then use it in one of my marketing campaign. No one will be able to sue me ? You are 100% sure about it ?
If so, then then could also sue the AI company also isn’t it ?

It seems like a total abolition of copyright otherwise
where did you see that? not sure what you're referring to
Stopped reading when I got to “ChatGTP” tbh.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10178989

If there's a workaround, it's ok. Users usually post workarounds in the thread.

This is in the FAQ at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html and there's more explanation here:

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...
It doesn't have to be perfect. What generally matters is its performance relative to various human populations.
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I don't see how this would be much different from a non-native English speaker getting a colleague to help with the English phrasing of a paper (this is very, very common).

As long as the original researcher reads what's been written, and agrees with it, and the output gives an accurate description of the procedure and results, there's no harm done that I can see.

Edit: I mean in general, not necessarily in this specific case. This guy seems a little...questionable...for other reasons.
their ToS trumps your code's license

wait, what?

do you have more details on this? what rights does the ToS claim that would violate an existing license?
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I disagree, and think it would be harmful. I think we’d be better off splitting up the US government into smaller pieces but everyone loses their mind when I suggest it.
~15 years ago, the last time I used Oracle in production, that was still standard practice. I'd be interested to hear from someone who's used it recently.
Let's say you don't speak french.

Imagine I lock you in a room filled with french-language magazines and movies and books. Having nothing better to do, you watch and read them (as well as you can). Periodically, I have my confederate, a french man, enter the room and speak a french sentence with one word missing. He asks you to fill in the missing word.

We keep you locked in this room until you've achieved some target benchmark of correctly saying the missing word, say 20% of the time.

Are you then, just a "next-french-word-predicting" robot?

No, obviously not. To have achieved the task and escaped the room, you will have had to have gained a significant understanding of French.

It is the same with ChatGPT.
I'd like to feed my content to chatgpt/openai, I wonder if this is done with llama wrapper? I'm not an actual chatgpt user or anything like that, actually just opened an account today to do some research and found about embedded and fine tunning, etc.
> Developers are eating the problems for you because safari support is almost always a requirement.

The problems "developers are eating" are hugely overblown

> Safari never breaks, but when it does it's because the developers are incompetent?

In 99% of the times? Yes.

> The fact it takes a bunch of extra work to support safari

No, it doesn't. Source: web developer myself.

Of course, if you rely on Chrome-only non-standards, that's a different issue.

> in more advanced cases like graphs and dashboards

Graphs and Dashboards are advanced use cases now. Gotcha.
That version is something the media never mentions.

I've seen it a number of times since last summer. Perhaps you're reading the wrong media.
> You cannot believe in a religious worldview and commonsense facts about the world. They are logically inconsistent.

These two statements are logically inconsistent. You're assuming or implying that the only "way" to believe is by deriving your beliefs from facts using logic.

In actual fact reasoning and belief are more nuanced and less consistent that that. It's completely possible to simultaneously hold contradictory beliefs or to use incompatible mental models. It may predispose you to certain other reasoning errors, but then so does holding the belief that all of your beliefs are logically derived.

The fact that most significant scientific discoveries were made by people with religious beliefs should give you serious pause when proposing this, honestly. How do you reconcile that incompatibility. In fact even still, taken as a demographic, researchers are much less religious than the general population but still much more religious than we would be able to tolerate if the practice of science was completely incompatible with a religious belief.
Sounds like you took the headline to mean "There's no concern about AI", but in fact it explicitly highlights an important concern for many: if you fail to keep up, you will lose your job.

I am puzzled so many here seem to have not read the second half of the headline before commenting that the headline missed "the point". The point is in the second half.
Yeah my 2010 MacBook Pro 15 is also still working ok including the battery. Running Linux on it now though because Apple has given up supporting it many years ago :(
Perhaps I'm outing myself as a so-called unintelligent person here, but I don't see how AI is a threat to creative hobbies of mine like music and writing. AI isn't going to stop me from sitting down at the piano or writing a short story. There will always be people in the world better at those things than me, so what difference does it make if an AI may or may not be better at them too?

And if I can't tell the difference between a human generated piece of art and an AI generated one, then I find that fascinating, not threatening. It says a lot about 1) your own tastes and perceptions, 2) the meaning of art in general, and 3) what exactly it means when activities previously considered solely human are mastered by programs, such as what happened in the past with chess engines, etc.

I think these are all exciting developments, and I look forward to seeing how art will evolve in the way the emergence of chess engines changed strategy for humans moving forward.
Sounds like a "color of bits" issue. In practice the courts would care about where the latent coordinates originated from, and if it were only possible to derive them from violation of copyright. Same issue with a copy of Titanic ripped from a decaying VHS and compressed into a bad quality AVI uploaded on a torrent tracker. At some point there's still an issue with unauthorized reproduction even if the bits don't match the master copy, because the "color" would still match. And "color" is not a thing that can be represented with data, it's abstract information.

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My Thinkpad X220 from 2011 works just fine, although I don't use it as my primary laptop anymore. Was also able to upgrade the memory from 4GB to 16GB and updated the HDD to a 1TB SSD :)
Encryption on Nextcloud is a mess. Something about their update process is enormously fragile and its often pain to do (side note: I recently discovered there's a CLI updater, and that's definitely the way to go). I eventually just had to give up on E2EE and shut then whole thing off, which was also a pain because I kept running into errors. Fortunately everything is stored on my homelab and my users are all family so they don't care if I can see their files.

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If you ignore elevated values, why test in the first place?

Also, often the test itself is somewhat invasive. Sticking various apparatuses into our bodies comes with all kinds of risks, so it better be worthwhile to do it.
> We had a problem with pedicab drivers dumping the scooters into the bay because of the competition they posed to their business.

> who would see a well parked scooter, kick it over, causing it to be across the sidewalk, and then go around complaining about the scooters being in the way.

I wonder why cities prefer to go against the tech companies rather than the criminals vandalizing public property.

Anyways here in SF it's unlikely the DA would actually prosecute criminals.
What do you mean "just a text generator?" GPT-4 is capable of doing emergent things that were not present in the training dataset.
I've done a few rounds of "here is a spec. Write tests for it." ... "Here are some tests. Write an implementation which passes them."

That gets me checking the tests in the middle so I can fix them up if I need to.
Just tried it via the API and it worked.
The issue is that doctors are biased to seeing a biased sample of human who are encountering problems. So in a way, they have to overreact always since the number of patients NOT having issues and seeing them due to the yearly checkups are way less than the number of people who are having problems.

The problem might go away if somehow we got a significant percentage of the general population to do health checkup, balancing out the unhealthy population (in meeting doctors). But that is nigh impossible, and might just overwhelm the whole doctor system altogether
The equivalent is more like having your accountants tell chatGPT what to have the software you already have do. You're adding an extra thing in the mix, and while the person will ostensibly be checking the AIs work, they will eventually become dependent on it. When something goes wrong nobody will know how to fix it. You'll miss payroll or something and be absolutely fucked.

As a software engineer, I'm not concerned about people using AI to write simple functions. That's not where my value is - it absolutely incidental to me.
> Google maps can show a much better picture

'Can' is putting in a lot of work, there.

Google insisted on showing roads continuing to be closed well after e.g. CalTrans issued a statement otherwise and reopened them, after the last bout of winter storms in early March.

The response time to displaying or ending closures related to wrecks on less well traveled roads is abysmal as well.
Apple into hardware and software.

Microsoft into OS and other software and cloud.

Amazon into cloud and web store(s).

Google into ads and web software that serves ads.
"only"? You just pointed out that they result in 300% increased worker productivity and that's "only"??? Especially when this discussion is based around someone saying they won't use technological productivity enhancers because they want to go the "bespoke" route.
I know people below the poverty line who have access to cheap forms of insulin that didn't even exist fifty years ago because rich people funded the research

They wouldn't even be alive if your lie was true
I'm quite surprised nobody mentioned Librewolf yet.
https://librewolf.net/

It's a custom build of Firefox with somewhat sensible, sometimes strict, privacy respecting default settings.

There's also the Arkenfox user.js which you can put on top of vanilla Firefox, aiming for the most privacy and security possible.
https://github.com/arkenfox/user.js
The GPUs are what kills it. I started looking into building a performant 4K@60FPS SFFPC as an upgrade to my five year old gaming PC and it easily reaches $2000+ with taxes after adding the GPU. The build I’m looking at now, without a crazy motherboard, is $2500.
If you look at any metric like life expectancy, literacy rates, child mortality, things have gotten so much better. (One exception is the US where life expectancy dropped. As was heavily discussed online the last days, this is mostly due to gun violence, traffic accidents and drug abuse which IMO are largely cultural and not due to automation)
I appreciate your opinion though I believe your conclusion, that it appears to reason means it reasons, is incorrect.

ChatGPT is an implementation of the Chinese Room Thought Experiment.[0] Our pareidolia allows us to ascribe reasoning faculty.[1] But it is far from proven.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia
As long as it's possible to buy third party radios, my car will have an AM radio no matter what Ford (or any other manufacturer) decrees.
> Zero interest rate policy means they were the same thing

No, it doesn't, because one of these things pre-dates and was not caused by low rates. (Office Space was released when rates were half a point above where they are now [1].)

[1] https://www.bankrate.com/banking/federal-reserve/history-of-...
Simple Markov chains do next token prediction, too.

GPT-4 is not a simple Markov chain.
I would guess most cars don't even implement it.
No.

> > Etc.
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Okay, it’s not a perfect analogy, but from the perspective of a business owner, the choice is to put money into something expensive like local human labor, or something cheaper whether it’s remote labor or automation of some kind. Lots of tools have been accused of stealing jobs over the years, from factory machines to vehicles to computers. In that sense, I’m only borrowing an analogy with a long rich tradition.

The wealth concentration difference between labor and machines is one of the systemic outcomes, it’s one of the consequences that business owners don’t necessarily intend to cause, it’s just an emergent property of certain choices, right? This is precisely one of the reasons we need to recognize that this is a choice, because the consequences of the choice will matter.
I haven’t really looked around, but the GitHub interface is rather bad as far as I’m concerned.

I’m not sure how Codeberg would fare if GitHub sued them for copying their design. I guess GitHub doesn’t really care as long as they’re the king of the hill.
Widelands [0] is an attempt to make a similar-ish open-source game.

[0] https://www.widelands.org/
To me the complicating factor is “why”. I’m not sure why China as a government makes the calls it does.

It’s not clear to me that those aren’t just as self serving as say a big company in the us operating freely and so on.
If anyone likes classical music, I run a site that 20,000 people per month use to find baroque music to perform, and we’d be happy to have help. Elasticsearch, Rails, Postgres, K8s. Interesting problems as we move from Google Sheets to proper SQL persistence, while still maintaining good search latency. https://www.vmii.org
It depends on the version. In Vista, the one mentioned, they certainly were. It you ran a computer using the minimum specs, it was almost unusable.

https://www.osnews.com/story/16675/vista-minimum-requirement...