skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
You could say this about every efficiency improvement in any field ever. If everything still had to be written in C and we didn't have fancy IDEs and access to a vast ocean of libraries, cheap services doing the work for you and returning results over an API, etc., we would need many many many times over more software devs to have everything software based in the world that we do now.

But do you think if none of these things had changed, and everyone was still doing nearly everything themselves, with a limited subset of libraries in use, writing everything in C, we would have all of these applications, services, pieces of software, etc? That all of these viable businesses employing people would still exist?

I doubt it. And like the poster from the reddit link, a lot of software devs truly did enjoy a lot of that work that they did. I've talked to plenty of greybeards who will wax nostalgic over spending months writing things that a pip install and import solve in a few seconds now.

If we double the efficiency of a team, do we fire half of them? Or do we double the amount of products we're releasing? Or double the amount of features for one product?

I think we have far more software devs today because of the advent of higher level languages, large library selections available with package managers, feature-rich IDEs, etc.

Is this always the case, for every industry? Obviously not. There are a lot fewer people making furniture by hand today than there was before automated manufacturing, and any individual only needs so many chairs. But there is, of course, still demand for hand built furniture using traditional joinery techniques.

"Art" is a big space, and I don't think that the impact will be universal across every part of it. For games in specific, I think we'll see something more like the software development side - people will make more and more unique assets vs. reusing them, we'll see the artwork be more detailed and "populated" in general. We'll see more and more smaller studios putting out work with higher quality and more art assets. Same thing for other media-related positions. And the people who are reliably selling prints for people to hang on walls, collect, etc., I think are also likely quite safe. I think people relying on twitter/instagram/etc. commissions to draw people's D&D characters or anime waifu are likely in a lot of trouble.
>the media can blame it on the poor/homeless and use it as fuel to increase police budgets

Why would "the media" care about police budgets?
I have the kernel and zfs modules in IgnorePkg in /etc/pacman.conf. This way I have to update them explicitly.

I usually have to manually install a kernel from archive.archlinux.org/packages but I find this much less fragile than DKMS.
> It plays games with words to make plausible-sounding English text, but any statements made in it are liable to be false

Well, that could also be perfectly applied to any human. The difference being that humans may make purposefully or not false statement (i.e. by lying or by ignorance), whereas the AI will only make false statements by ignorance.

Also... "It can't avoid that because it doesn't know what the words _mean_.". That's very subjective to understand what a word "means", is that again about lies and ignorance? And we need the AI to lie to declare it intelligent?

Maybe, ChatGPT has ironically a modest answer to this claim, when asked what it's thinking about Richard Stallman's statement:

```

Richard Stallman raises some valid concerns about the limitations of AI language models like ChatGPT. It is true that these models, while highly advanced and capable of generating human-like text, still have limitations in terms of understanding and reasoning.

ChatGPT, being a product of GPT-4 architecture, learns from vast amounts of text data and is designed to predict and generate plausible-sounding responses based on the input it receives. However, it lacks the capability to truly comprehend meaning or context in the same way a human can.

It is important to recognize these limitations and not overestimate the abilities of AI language models. Users should be aware that the information provided by ChatGPT might not always be accurate or reliable, and it is essential to cross-verify any critical information obtained from such models with trusted sources.

In summary, while Richard Stallman's statement highlights important concerns, it is worth noting that AI language models like ChatGPT can still provide valuable insights and assistance when used responsibly and with an understanding of their limitations.

```
https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/9/15/1630615...

You can read more about it there if you'd like.
Since you asked for some, here's my immediate 2 cents:

Please change the slide out on the left to be visible permanently.

I have 1920 pixels of horizontal screen real estate, and the page is quite literally half empty whitespace anyway. For what conceivable reason is that menu on the left a hidden-by-default slide out? It even hides pertinent stock information.

Also concerning the stock information, please add some whitespace margin on the bottom. Chrome displays URL information on the bottom left of the window when hovering links and it overlaps and obstructs visibility of whatever stock ends up displayed at the bottom left of the window.
The thing is that if AI matches the hype around it, there won't be any more jobs left. The economy depends on the middle class working, earning a living, buying things. The government collect taxes from businesses and its citizens. At risk and low-income people depend on the government to assist them with basic things.

If AI destroys the middle class, then the whole system collapses. No middle class = no spending = less businesses = more low-income and at risk people, and the cycle continues.

We'll basically create a neofeudalist society where the rich will control everything and the people will work for them (food, housing, etc...).

It seems crazy, etc... but not improbable. I'm not a conspiracy person, but I can't stop thinking about this: These advancements align with "You'll own nothing, and you'll be happy" sentence from the WEF.
He’s a Arch + WM user who loves to tinker. If that is you, then you’ll agree with his take. If you just want to get stuff done without tweaking your OS and without supporting Microsoft or Apple or Google and whatever BS they’re doing these days, then Gnome and Wayland are a godsend.
I think the point here is that for a group of people (I would argue most) the primary goal of a comment is to broadcast your ideas, with the language being used to convey them of secondary concern, of which this part could be delegated to AI.
Interesting that you mention Portugal here. I was born and raised there, and though not great, I don't remember it being as bad as the horror stories I'm reading about Italy from other comments.
Social Media use is probably worse than smoking for kids. Smoking gives you a 15% chance to get cancer in 50 years but instagram gives you a 66% chance of depression today.

It’s incredibly, empirically unhealthy and it should be banned for children.
Cue Agent Smiths’ monologue.

That said, the way we treat our environment, ie anything external to us is a representation of an internal state. Not sure how the internal state of an AGI would be.

We have many, many epistemological flaws and we do not wake up and say “Gee let’s examine my epistemology today!” Verifying what we believe, feel and reason is an ultimately worthwhile endeavor while it’s not really a cultural phenomenon.
> One difference between humans and LLMs is that humans have a wide range of inputs and outputs beyond language.

So does Bing and multimodal models.

> The claim that humans are word predictors is not something I would want to dispute.

We have forward predictive models in our brains, see David Eagleman.

> The claim that humans are nothing more than word predictors is obviously wrong though. When I go to buy food, it's not because I'm predicting the words "I'm hungry". It's because I'm predicting that I'll be hungry.

Your forward predictive model is doing just that, but that's not the only model and circuit that's operating in the background. Our brains are ensembles of all sorts of different circuits with their own desires and goals, be it short or long term.

It doesn't mean the models are any different when they make predictions. In fact, any NN with N outputs is an "ensemble" of N predictors - dependent with each other - but still an ensemble of predictors. It just so happens that these predictors predict tokens, but that's only because that is the medium.

> fully understanding the meaning of language.

What does "fully" mean? It is well established that we all have different representations of language and the different tokens in our heads, with vastly different associations.
Quantum Physics Falls Apart Without Imaginary Numbers
Which services are enabled by default is up to each distribution. In you case I'm guessing it might be systemd-resolved or systemd-resolvconf, if not NetworkManager. Just disable what you don't want.

In terms of problematic default services, I'd look at GNOME. systemd is just the medium.
Oh I think I see what you mean, note that I used two different AIs (GPT-4 was the tester, Me & ChatGPT were the testee's).
> But these things are essential to business, especially if you are going to make the most of the (profitable[0]) part you truly enjoy on a daily basis. So you need to get it under your belt early and start devising how you will overcome any compromising effect.

Totally agree. I've seen or been a part of some startups (not the Silicon Valley kind) that made payroll but not much else and the effort that was required to get that (from leadership) was close to what I'd call all consuming. If I start something I want to go in eyes wide open but the more they are open the less I think what you hear about online matches most realities. By that I mean most small business offer a mediocre salary (for the owner(s)) for way more work than you'd do with an job/employer and you're still subject to outside demands that make you do the "not fun" stuff. You hear that if it's something you love then you haven't worked a day... but IME that's BS. Yes, if you work for yourself there are good parts but there may be more parts outside your control (payroll, taxes, employee issues etc) and I've seen it where they take so much effort to stay on top of that it's hard to work "on the business".

With all that said I'm trying to separate wanting the idea of a business from the realities of owning/operating one. I added it because it's been on my list for a long time and I've put a lot of effort towards understanding the "right way" so there is some part of me that feels like I'd be regretful if I didn't try at least one time with 100% effort.

Also the mind space I was in when I asked the question was one of "what do I want to put on my career & life resume for the next decade".

Thank you! I appreciate your input.
In the future, we'll use racial slurs to ensure we're talking to humans.
The more killers are killed, the earlier they are killed, the fewer innocent victims there are. Why we should not celebrate saved lives?
Richard Stallman is neglecting the impact of ChatGPT. It doesn't matter if ChatGPT is a magician or not, it absorbes our minds.
Fewer Doctors Are Choosing to Go into Emergency Medicine
This is not directly related to question but I would suggest using go just for those use cases.

Programming in general has become a lot more abstract and standardised so with some exceptions (C/rust) you can easily use multiple languages without incurring much if any costs.

Something else you can do thats slightly unorthodox is to write in typescript then ask chatGPT to rewrite your code in golang. You still have to maintain in golang but you get do the initial implementation part in typescript.
> It doesn't need intelligence to nullify human's labour.
> I wouldn't suggest empowering the government to compel Facebook to hand over the ID of said person so that they can be prosecuted for saying mean things about the President or whatever.

But the government _already_ has this power. They can issue a warrant. How is requesting their identification - which your example specifically cited - significantly different from demanding the person's IP address?
The study does that, finding conservative views correlate better with GDP per capita, for instance.
I see. If it was a month ago then MS would have almost definitely patched it.
The “Mental Game” in Investing
I was wondering the same. Are they basing the conclusion that it can distinguish on an n=1 response which the system labeled as tentative to boot?
Right? I learned through reading browser documentation in elementary school when CSS and JavaScript were implemented and then running to my dad or internet forums/chat rooms when I ran into topics or problems I didn't understand. None of us knew what we were doing. It was great.
SaaS products are infrastructure. Each different SaaS used is another piece that needs to be connected to the system and maintained; it thus becomes part of the system infrastructure. Each new SaaS piece has costs (time and money) associated with it.

That said, it's up to the individual company to decide if the added cost is worth it. Just because the cost exists doesn't mean it isn't worth it.
Without assuming an answer, the social status of physical labor should be elevated compared to where it is now.

Ideally, the social status of the "email class" should be lowered as well, and no, I'm not talking about just programmers here.
I think the effect on the job market of (things like) midjourney is much more drastic and steeply immediate than that historical example (not sure if it's a true story or hypothetical? not sure if it was written by chat-gpt?).

I mean, I'm sure many developers over the years have found their jobs disappear, and many contracting companies have gone out of business due to changed market. But at least through now, even with the layoffs, jobs developing websites are still plentiful. (Perhaps that won't be true in the future, sure).

I feel like OP is probably right that they are going to have a lot of trouble getting a job creating 3D art, that the job market has _drastically_ shrunken almost overnight, beyond the effect that wix/squarespace/etc had. (Although of course even in your example, it's a shrunken market)

But maybe I'm not correct?
HRC conceded the next day. Trump incited a riot. But yeah, totes the same, BSAB.
I like this, is your quote data live or delayed? Sparklines in your watchlist would be most welcome, plus better charts in general; candlesticks, range % between two points etc.
We can't even prove other people are sentient. This is not a fruitful line of inquiry.
It would take a software engineer to have the ego to imply that a bug in their code was "act of god" :)

Parent wasn't lobbing stones, just pointing out that we are responsible, if not culpable, for the results of the development decisions we approve and commit. A library was used that wasn't fully reviewed, vetted, or corrected prior to use. It's like buying rivets and not inspecting them before you build a skyscraper with them - even if nothing comes of it, was no wrong done?
His points, paraphrased by me:

* Gnome 2 had a lot of themes but since then, there aren't that many.

* Compiz fun is gone.

* Wayland limits the number of supported desktops.

* The desktop is more complicated and it's harder to tinker.

* He believes that customisability (should) set FOSS apart from proprietary software.
Most of what human brain does is prediction of what comes next. For example, as you're reading each word in this sentence, your brain is trying to predict the next word you might see (a word or a phrase or even a whole sentence that's likely to come next). When you don't see what you expected you get surprised.
Of course these aren’t production worthy artifacts. But what if the marketing team sent in their context and the personalized context of the individual they are targeting. Multiplied by millions of people. Custom, on-brand marketing. This is what LLMs are actually good at.
Why let 18 year olds+ use it then? If it's that bad, it sounds more like crack, which we ban for everybody.
This sounds just like something my brother-in-law said. I think they are both technically correct and both missing the point. Does a calculator truly understand math when it spits out a correct answer? Of course not. And it doesn't matter. I have been really impressed with chatgpt, and when it comes to shiny new tech I am usually in the poo poo camp. If tech does something useful then it is useful tech. The fact that it is not true intelligence doesn't matter at all. Besides, what's intelligence anyway? Aren't we still debating that ourselves'?
This is already a meme but I'll repeat it here "hard pills to swallow: if you're afraid of ChatGPT taking your job then maybe you're not very good at your job"

What this means to me is that if you see the parts of your job that are basically drudgery as being what you're good at then you should worry. If instead you see them as a necessary evil that you have to do in order to accomplish the bigger goals you're aiming for then you should be happy.
I don't need an automatic TL;DR machine to tell me news articles aren't worth reading.
> Languages that are eager by default but support lazy evaluation are also not really discussed, and it's because they are the best of both worlds. Yes, lazy evaluation has its pluses, but more often than not, you don't need it.

What makes you say strictness is the right default?

I write Haskell at my day job, and I practically never experience crashes due to space leaks. And given that strictness has its own performance issues (unnecessary evaluation), it’s not clear to me that either is the “right” default.
The problem isn't that GTK3x is hard to use, It's that its simply not capable of creating beautiful UI's like GTK2x could. It can't create any tool bars without making them thick and huge, even DE's like xfce that try to maintain that old gtk2x look and feel can't do it anymore because of this.
If the retailer keeps a record of the receipts, the government can ask for them since they have the payment reference from the credit card company.
I'm on the zfs-linux AUR package in the archzfs repo and not DKMS. I'm still waiting for zfs packages for the latest kernel but they haven't been cut yet; I'm wondering if this has something to do with OPs problems that are being encountered, and so there's a bit of a delay on the next zfs release.
With kampf meaning to fight, for a moment I assumed you meant a physical fight, perhaps as proposed by Voigt. But apparently it's the name of an author and also some psych test.
Thank you, I hope can I post an Show HN one day with a prototype.

The more I play around with the idea, the more I realise how complex the enduser experience would be. Need to define core features and use cases and focus on them.
On the one hand, GPT-4 has only been out for two weeks. Give it time.

On the other hand, if someone is going to claim that GPT-4 can make awesome things all by itself, instead of just toy demos and mediocre content - then they should be prepared to defend their claim with examples. Otherwise it’s just speculation.
F-35s have flown over 1,000 combat sorties. When would you consider it "proven"?
https://www.textonly.website/
> And if corporations or government misuse identification for self-serving purposes, we should certainly push back.

The time to push back is now, before we give them this power.
Or libreddit: https://libreddit.de/r/linux/comments/122gmm9/richard_stallm...

I have Firefox redirrect reddit links with the "privacy redirect" extension. Unfortunately, it isn't whitelisted for mobile, but it works well if you use a different list on nightly or Fennec.
I guess some additional training doesn't hurt and could make it more deterministic and reliable. But it's impressive how you can already tell it to create simple JSON structures from naturally worded descriptions, so I'm convinced it would already work reasonably well without additional training.
We must give more powers to the FBI to remove misinformation. Not only on Twitter, but in schools, grocery stores, and kindergartens. Just hammer the truth through their thick skulls 24/7.
The police had to choose between "being liked by the public" and "being able to murder members of the public without consequence" and chose option B in almost every single case.
It's beautiful but a lot of these examples are things that have been done into oblivion on Github. As soon as you pick a more obscure problem ChatGPT just doesn't give you something that works at all no matter how hard you try to pry it :/

Which sucks because I want it to help me write multiplayer videogame net-code!!! It's too dang hard!!

Certainly a human with an understanding well enough to produce a working example in 30 seconds of thousands of different problems on GitHub would have the synthesized knowledge to figure out Netcode really quickly and easily for a complex game, how to structure it well, and even how to test and debug it just all immediately.
You could argue like that against anything
> (D) news, sports, entertainment, or other content that is preselected by the provider and not user generated, ... (Q) to permit comments on a digital news website, if the news content is posted only by the provider of the digital news website

Sounds more like they are protecting against children consuming toxic or mind numbing content.
yes, their kids are starving. but our kids will starve. this is our problem.
Did you just feed it the quote and ask it if it was true or did you have some fancy prompt for it?
Incessant war is considered to be one of the drivers of the industrial revolution, which you could argue was a good thing.
> Look at the reddit UI, do you really think that it’s better than something GPT could toss out in 10 minutes?

Is this some kind of a joke? I'm pretty sure whole Reddit's UI team can't be replaced by GPT.
Sounds like a couple Heinlein settings.
Could a chatbot write my restaurant reviews?
Just started working on ‘can’, an ‘rm’ replacement, that moves files to the trash instead instead of deleting them. It only works on macos right now but I was hoping to make it cross-platform. It’s not faster than ‘rm’ but hopefully saves accidental deletions.
https://github.com/joshvoigts/can
>in capitalism having money increases your self worth and you are rewarded for having money no matter where it came from.

I can't imagine what type of economic system where this isn't true. Even in communism you're rewarded for having money because it allows you to obtain more resources.
The Israelis have released footage of shooting down two drones, so they have the first kills with the F-35. Obviously this was not against a maneuvering human pilot, but still important.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdSFEpqwA6Q
> An LGBTQ child is effectively forcibly outed by this law, potentially before they've come to terms with their sexuality / gender themselves.

How?
No, you can instruct ChatGPT to respond as a liar. If you wanted, you could build a clone that did this implicitly by having the instruction hidden.
Not since I spent two weeks at the Pret a Porter in Hong Kong Central staring at Bitcoin’s white paper in 2011 have I seen so much active interest in a new technology area. I estimate that about 25% of every developer’s time is now fixed on GPT experimentation. Quite an astonishing turn in the history of technology.
Ask HN: Best books to self study undergrad level mathematics?
What topics in math should an undergrad know? And what are some of the best books for each topic that are suitable for someone who wants to self study the topics, maybe from a non-math major.

High school algebra and geometry are considered to be known.