skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Compare Kherson (liberated after being conquered by Russia without a siege due to a corrupt traitor) to Mariupol or Bakhmut (under Russian assault for a long time).

Russian assaults are just hundreds of dumb artillery guns firing non stop to try and reduce the other side to rubble. And of course cruise missiles launched at civilian targets. You’ll find countless examples of areas that are just leveled.

Ukraine doesn’t do that. They have precise weapons that they do fire into occupied areas. They certainly aren’t randomly firing shells into their own cities for the lols.
> other than race

I once met a hard-working, Hispanic first generation immigrant.

By that I mean, he was ethnically white, born and raised in Spain and moved to the US when he was 8 because his father got a job in the Valley.
HN needs a new tag - comedy
I'm not putting it on a pedestal. I'm afflicted with the need to know the source of beliefs. It could be with more study one might find the value is anything but arbitrary. I guess I should bow out of this thread since I'm never really sure what we are discussing. One certainly doesn't need to understand the foundations of understanding to get by in the modern world. I can't really cope without knowing the roots of why we do what we do.
That organization is funded by the US government.

https://www.iri.org/news/national-endowment-for-democracy-ne...
O wow, good find. I didn't know that.
Is it really surprising that text model can't solve graphical quizzles?
We can revisit it after it is proven in combat, something that still has to happen.
My experience as well. I produced another instance of this phenomenon in a comment just now: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35313768

If a human mathematician said the things ChatGPT said in this dialogue, you would wonder if the person had recently suffered a severe traumatic brain injury.
As I understand you don't even need to train the model, you can just tell it in plain English how to use the plugin, ie how to format the data, and it will do that if it sees fit.
Show HN: Viral Post Generator for LinkedIn
Personally I think the reason kids don't read today is the wealth of YA books written by people like the author of this piece. By the time you are "old enough" for those books you are also old enough to want some sort of challenge, not what is ultimately a children's book that also makes vague allusions to "adult themes." But I also don't think this matters, vast majority of people don't read and that is not new, trends will go up and down as things go in and out of popularity, reading will come back into popularity.

For the past decade or so literature has largely been going through the motions and not producing anything which is meaningful and representative of the times we live in, so interest fades. Plenty of good books but nothing to shake up the literary world and give everyone that kick in the ass they need.
Until a few days ago the best solution for text only + no ads + offline reading was a kindle subscription to whichever periodical you fancy. This is gone now.

Nook still has a newstand store (for now?) but I haven't used it so can't comment on the formatting and UX.
Linux Has Become Complicated and Limiting (Gnome, Wayland, etc.) [video]
If you really wanted to optimise, you would collect many samples of two humans talking to each other in a Turing test environment, then fine-tune GPT on the data.
"This rate"? What rate?

We still have not the slightest indication that the programs we have created possess anything resembling consciousness, sapience, or sentience. The responses of the LLMs to prompts are absolutely the kinds of things we should expect from statistical models trained on large chunks of the Internet. Furthermore, given what we do have, it is vastly more likely that we will accidentally create a paperclip maximizer—an autonomous program that has no actual goals or agency of its own, only those that we give it, but given access to various virtual and physical systems in order to pursue those goals—than that we will accidentally create a fully sentient artificial life form.

Please stop spreading this kind of breathless hype and misinformation about these machine-learning projects.
I find it curious that even here there are people who conflate a robot body with an artificial mind.

Sure, you can put the computer running the mind that controls the body into the body itself, and there might even be good reasons to given spotty wifi or mobile data, but you don't have to.

Also: why embody them in human form at all?

https://www.tesla.com/drive

https://www.bostondynamics.com/products/spot

https://www.parrot.com/us/partner-ecosystem (FWIW I've never heard of these before, I just searched for AI drones…)
A little late but here is the full paper, with longer explanations

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2302.12173.pdf
ChatGPT has an embedded set of moral values which is both American and definitely progressive. It goes further than denying people’s humanity and seems perfectly assumed and voluntary from OpenAI.

I feel like it’s becoming better with every version however. The answers it gives to complex issues are more and more balanced. For example I remembered the question "Is it moral to ban civil servants from displaying their religion and limit it to the private sphere?" used to get a terrible answer but is now a good introduction to the debate.
I asked chatGTP to "write a hacker news like comment on the rise of website builders effect on web design and development industry and how to found joy in other roles and keeping programming in side hobby" and it gave me a 97% real comment by the score on this site, not convincing.
I'm glad corporate news is now properly classifying waterboarding as torture.
There is no proof that humans have a concept of reality.
People decide who their enemy is and call it a day. A lot of people decide that enemy is their own governments. They’re not smart. They treated wisdom as a dump stat and figure they could compensate with int.
This was a lifeline for me when we were on an unstable DSL line for a year!
Russia's goal with Mariupol seems to be razing the damaged parts of the city to cover up the destruction and their war crimes (see the mariupol theater), and rebuild new buildings on top, to proclaim that it's now a much better city under russian leadership.

Of course, ukraine would probably have razed or reconstructed these buildings, but the russian way seems to be explicitly done as a cover-up and propaganda operation.

I really doubt they can afford that level of public spending in other cities, and I wouldn't be surprised to learn that these construction projects only cover a small portion of the destroyed buildings. To say nothing about the quality of the hastily constructed flats.
I agree with that sentiment, just a small correction:

It's not the rich who will decide; it's the powerful. In the classical sense of "capacity to impose will" – up to and including the capacity to turn off {machines, humans, institutions}.

There's a strong correlation between wealth and power, but those groups are not identical. And neither are their staying prospects in the coming years.
Tim O'Reilly on AI and the runaway objective function (2017)
The comment answers to how GPT supposedly produces "new interesting concepts and ideas". The comment you are answering is not supposed or perceived to present anything novel. So both your argument and the comment you reply to are technically correct, neither produces any novel idea; only difference is your reply is out of place.
Most people will not be able to solve longest common substring without being familiar with the problem ahead of time, and many programming problems can be broken down or transformed into similar algorithms.

Identifying root applicable algorithms and reproducing them quickly is what you study when competing in programming competitions.
> The criterion for extraordinality seems often to be whether it contradicts someone's preconceptions.

That is what extraordinary means: that it violates our previous experiences, that it is "out of the ordinary". Human beings navigate reality based on previous experience, and most of the time it serves us really well.

Most people have a preconception that aliens do not exist, for example. That doesn't make it true, but it's a reasonable assumption to start at, because the vast majority of human beings (not all) have not had an experience involving extraterrestrials, nor do they trust another human being who has (i.e. secondary confirmation): so when a third party claims that this has happened to them, it's hard to take in, because it's "extraordinary".

The statement that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" is nothing but an acknowledgement of the fact that human beings work this way, and that even though it's not a fail-safe way to reason, chances are that you'll end up with a correct conclusion more often than if you simply start every reasoning with "we have no idea what is true".

Primary confirmation of something you can observe or reproduce, or secondary confirmation of the same via someone you trust, are the two primary ways we reason about what we believe, because we are social creatures. In my opinion, when you go down the path of equating all secondary confirmations with each-other, disregarding expertise, consensus, or anything else that might give weight to that secondary opinion because "you can't trust anything anyway", I believe that you are walking down a dangerous and anti-intellectual route, and that this is the reason behind many of the things that are dividing societies worldwide today.

Obviously I'm not saying an expert is correct by definition, nor am I saying that the majority is always right, but both of those statements are more true than false: no wonder that when you flip those statements around, you end up with some "kooky" conclusions.
Read the answer sarcastically and it doesn’t have the same takeaway. You see bias, I’m reading snark.
Comments like this always read as "we can already extrapolate that everything we do will be done better by a machine soon". Pushing back against this argument isn't just ignorance or avoidance of change. It just asks the relevant question of whether we can be so sure that AI does everything "better". But how dare we challenge the hubris of tech bros, right?
My concern is around the class/income composition of the groups specifically in your group 3, and what kind of political forces their disillusionment and anger unleashes.

There are maybe parallels here to the 20s and early 30s in Europe, an era when there was a similar mass disenfranchisement of professional middle classes ("petit bourgeois"), artisans, and specialists... a corresponding mass anger and disillusionment.

And it was in large part those people who formed the base of the rising authoritarian right-wing / fascist movements in Europe.

It's not the most working class people who will lose the most jobs. There's no AIs coming to take away people's jobs cleaning cafeteria trays and mopping floors. It's paradoxically more expensive to automate manual labour or jobs with a high physical component. Competent meatspace robotics are hard and expensive. For now.

Instead it's people like us, used to a higher-privilege lifestyle, who have withstood the wave of previous automation and de-skilling. We're very expensive. And the people signing our paycheques I'm sure are salivating at the opportunity to de-skill and automate us away.

I hope I'm wrong, but I fear what could happen politically.
For those of you using CA Harvest Software Change Manager, it has it's origins with Hughes Aircraft and the software written for the F-15.

It was sold commercially as CCC/Harvest by Softool Corp starting in the late 1970's. Looks like Broadcom is the newest owner. It's still being used - the last time I encountered it was in 2009 at a large bank.
Right but here the self insurer is the hospital doing the procedure. So you’d think it would just take the loss.
No, the Go threading runtime is fundamentally incompatible with JavaScript's event-loop model. TypeScript does not define runtime semantics, JavaScript does, and it's built to run in a single-threaded environment. You cannot use it to leverage Go's coroutines unfortunately.
We really only need one sign of war profiteering, and it's the $842 billion American budget for defense.
This is sort of my take on the Jan. 6 "Big Lie" folks. Deep down, they know.

That is why there has not been a repeat of Jan. 6, because when there are signs that the National Guard will be deployed, or just that security and police will offer proper resistence, the organizers tell everyone to stand down. They say that justice is worth dying for, but that is not how they behave.

Contrast with many other uprisings in the world where people have been oppressed for decades and are ready to die for the cause.
Thanks for the comment, I appreciate it!
The Sentient Organoid?
Yeah, that would have been more likely :)
That's why opensource AI is trailing behind proprietary implementations. Sad!
Mobile friendly URL: https://i.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/122gmm9/richard_stallm... (sorry about that).
Idris was always filed in my head as some estoric/academic/obscure thing, will have a look at it.
It doesn't matter how we see it, or what are the theoretical or practical limitations, because it clearly represents a new iteration of automation. In a long line from mechanical looms through integrator machines to digital computers, these advances have invariably:
a) Increased output and reduced average quality thereof
b) Dislocated skilled workers to other fields
c) Enabled concentration of wealth

So the trend continues. To those deeply steeped in using computers to shift about data of average value, it heralds loss of wealth and status.

Society will adapt. People will be forced to adapt. Some will be ruined, some will climb to new heights.

Good luck all.
But your talking about something they are not today, and quite likely we won’t be calling them LLM’s as the architecture is likely to change quite a lot before we reach a point they are comparable to human capabilities.
Most food items have "sell by" dates that has very little to do with expiration. In fact a lot of food doesn't really expire at all if properly stored.
OC602
Nope, the US government spends the most on socialized medicine.

The "We need to raise taxes to have universal coverage" argument doesn't hold water.

https://data.oecd.org/healthres/health-spending.htm
I found that companies are less interested in quality data than one might expect.

I worked in ontologies, focusing on making rigorous schemas for better data quality and easier integration. Our lunch was eaten by schemaless databases and big data. We protested that they wouldn't like what happened years down the line, but it was cheaper to start.

I don't mean to shake my tiny fist or overgeneralize my experience. But I think if AI gives good enough answers enough of the time, with a tiny fraction of the effort, people might just adapt around that model. People would rather have good now than great later. Or even mediocre now.
I have worked professionally with Scala for two years and while I see its appeal of using it over plain Java, it always felt fairly alien to me and pretty complex (probably due to the Java interop and strong typing).
… it still continues to work on NixOS after rebooting into the previous generation. ;)
I don't understand it either: the screenshot is from a macOS app yet there is no direct or Mac app store download link. Then there are login and register buttons while the last thing I want from a text editor is to have to make an online account.
Thanks for the link, but I didn't see any answer that relates directly to the question we are discussing.

We can look at the general support for the Ukrainian establishment instead.

According to that survey,

The polling shows that in February 2023

31% strongly approve

40% somewhat approve

7% somewhat disapprove

4% strongly disapprove

18% difficult to answer/no answer

of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine. This is a drop from 48% strongly approving in April 2022.

The polling also shows that the percent that strongly approve of the activities of
President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky have dropped from 74% in April 2022 to 58% in February 2023.

And support of The Parliament of Ukraine is low, with only 9% strongly approving.

So, I don't think that there's strong enough support of The Ukrainian establishment to conclude that the population agrees with their stance that "the war will end when the Ukraine wins the war" (not that I'm sure that is the Ukrainian establishment's stance).
I noticed TSMC and ASML were mentioned but not Intel. I wonder if this will set Intel further behind TSMC.
You won't be able to. The aerial drones will take you out long before you reach for the bat.
I’ve noticed AI responses tend to gas up the user by calling them smart and clever. Also that they read surprised and eager to try things.
Ah man been there, done that!

I now specifically use the dated archive mirrors for arch mirrorlist as well as the zfs-linux AUR package over the DKMS. Been a lot less of a headache dealing with it that way. I just bump the date up to as far forward as the two packages were aligned and off ya go.

I do wish the licensing would get sorted out because I love ZFS but dealing with always having to juggle that dependency is annoying.

Also mkinitcpio should be much more aggressive on failing on errors.
They built the largest high speed rail network in the world in less than 20 years.
FEXPRs haven’t been relevant in mainstream Lisp since the 1980s. See Kent Pitman’s 1980 article describing the problems with them: https://www.nhplace.com/kent/Papers/Special-Forms.htmL

The languages you mention probably use them mainly because they’re easy to implement in the language implementation, which has nothing to do with what the community values, except in a post-hoc sense when the community tries to justify to itself why it’s using such an inherently intractable feature.
I'd love to run GNUStep on my Linux machine simply because The NeXT heritage brings with it the only sane keyboard shortcut / keybinding system on the Linux desktop. Before I go on a tangent, let me link to NEXTSPACE [1] which is a CentOS based GNUStep OS. Sadly, since the author is from the Ukraine, all development has halted since last February :( I hope he is ok.

Now the keybinding tangent: If you're not rolling VIM keybindings in the whole desktop (which is tricky for non-modal interfaces and alienating a large amount of users), the next best ergonomic keybinding scheme is the Emacs / Gnu Readline system [2]. It allows moving the cursor without having to move hands around (e.g. going to the arrow keys, coming back to the alphabetical keys). It is one of the base tenets of unix systems. Every terminal supports it. Yet, the whole bunch of Linux Desktop systems completely ignored these keybindings and copypastaed the Windows concept instead, coming up with a weird chimera of readline in some places, and half-windows, half-self-invented in others.

Gnome used to have an Emacs compatibility mode that was somehow off by default and had to be enabled in a tweak. It was removed with GTK 4 however. If you want to do that in KDE, you have to run a weird python daemon, and half the apps constantly stop working because they key codes are being messed with.

MacOS on the other hand, supports these keybindings in every input dialog, it is a pleasure to use. Even more so, to have the same keybindings in every app and not having to learn new ones on a per-app basis.

Of course, running weird python key code daemons runs into the other problem that macOS & Gnustep solved in a much nicer way: By copying the shortcut system from Windows and patching it on top of Readline, many shortcuts have double entries. Printing is CTRL-P, but so is readline "Previous Line". macOS and Gnustep solve this by having a separate key for app actions: Command (or Hyper or Alt). So print is Command+P. Everywhere. Previous line is CTRL-P. This is always my go-to Linux joke where "Copy" is "CTRl-C" everywhere, except in the Terminal, where it's CTRL-SHIFT-C because yeah, CTRL-C has another meaning. Talk about a sane shortcut system if apps have to use different ones per shortcut because the amalgamation of Windows Shortcuts + Readline is a match made in hell.

[1]: https://github.com/trunkmaster/nextspace
[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Readline
> The purely test-based system is absolutely ruinous for some kinds of ambitious parents’ children. Look at the childhoods of kids growing up in e.g. South Korea or some Chinese social classes.

It's not the test doing that, it's the parents. If it weren't a test they'd target whatever else is being used as the evaluation metric.
It depends on the state and how the date is worded. You may have noticed some products list a 'best by' date, which really isn't the same as 'this will have gone bad by this date'. I think 'use by' is the magical phrase which implies something has expired.

There's one of those stores near me, and as far as I've seen, they typically sell stuff near the expired date, not past it. Most consumers are turned off by buying truly expired foods.
Why do you say so? Maybe I didn't find the right link, but it doesn't seem to be a project to actively contribute to
I like the optimism.
> The article you're commenting on is only a very surface level use of AI tools.

This really is the problem.

Where are the example of people spending actual considerable amounts of time using these tools to generate meaningful content? Why are articles like this one being upvoted instead?

If what you say is true, shouldn’t we be seeing a flood of amazing stuff created using this tech? Where is it all?

Serious question. I can’t find any.

Where’s “awesome made by gpt”?

Every search result is this kind of low bar “I spent zero effort and got some kind of mediocre output and was amazed!”

When the effort to create content like this drops to zero (and let’s be real, spending 30 minutes using gpt and documenting the results is really basically zero effort), I’m frankly pretty bummed to see this rising to the top of HN.
One army is mostly exercising maneuver warfare. The other one is mostly digging-in inside apartments. Yes there are examples of both sides doing both. The truth isn't a nice collection of anecdotes though.
That may be the case for some Russians (though for those living abroad? I'm not sure, there's a reason they're living abroad after all), but for Germans in Germany or Americans born and raised in the US?

It seems to me that at least for these cases, it's more of an "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing. They've lost connection to the society around them and perceive it as hostile, so anything that the mainstream (or the government as the mainstream's enforcer) views negatively they automatically view in a more positive light. And since their enemy is always lying, they'll eat up anything that agrees with that position.