skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
It's entirely possible, and should be second nature for any CEO, to draft a statement that's both legally prudent AND shows a modicum of empathy. What they shouldn't do is try to throw their own role into question until the facts are on the table.

Try this:

"Everyone at Justin.tv is deeply shocked and saddened by this news. In the upcoming days, we will conduct a thorough investigation of the events surrounding this incident, and will cooperate fully with local police and federal authorities. Once all the facts have been gathered and analyzed, we will release an additional statement. Until that time, we will refrain from further comment, except to say that our thoughts and prayers are with Mr. Biggs's family and friends as they come to grips with a sudden, tragic loss."
There was an additional cheap comment from another ticketstumbler founder that has since been removed showing a similar sentiment, mocking the Justin.tv statement.
I expect nothing less from Andy Baio. His panel at SXSW2008 was my favorite.
What good is an arm, if you have no fingers?

Infact, what good is a CEO -without- the workers? Then he's just a guy.
That's a lot better - but I still find it a bit of a strain to be honest.

Think it's a few factors - it's still too light (imho) - also it's above the text, so the eye is automatically drawn to it. I keep trying to read it, whereas (I guess) you're actually trying to de-emphasise it. Perhaps try at the bottom of each entry?
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I'm just going off what happened last time and the time before that. Why's predicting the media so bad again?
Apple authorizes MMS on the iPhone, but not for US users
I always thought that #2 was illustrated very well by the Ship of Theseus paradox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus).
Isn't this a Firefox thing? I remember seeing it on other places than gmail...
I think it's relevant. It's a landmark in that it is at a 52-week low, and dropped significantly below the psychological 8,000 boundary. I personally find it interesting, and I think some, though perhaps not all, hackers would agree. Plus, I think a lot of people who don't track the market would occasionally want to know when something unusual (like a 5.5% drop) happens in the US economy. There are people who already knew, but that's true for most submissions.
It seems nice, but I wonder how much it cost, and if people would rather pay slightly less and not have that.
Reason number 245 why Justin.tv won't be able to sell advertising.
I think for a lot of people there's a huge disconnect between internet and reality. On the internet it's often just words on a page, with no association to real people.

Also, there's so much shocking material and people joking around on the Internet sometimes it's hard to realize what's "real" and what's not. People like guy who pranked Zed Shaw a couple weeks ago certainly don't help: http://zedshaw.com/blog/2008-10-30.html
Its not what you say that matters but the action - what you feel and do.

Yes Justin.tv can say for PR "oh I am deeply shocked and we here would all mourn for 30 days." Lets restrict animated false talks.

edit: I know I am going to be downmodded for being bluntly realistic.
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Video of Peter Schiff Repeatedly Predicting Economic Collapse Starting in 2006
I'd wager that everyone at Justin.tv is shocked and saddened. Too bad nobody knows that for sure.
I could definitely see them doing something like - you declare bankruptcy, we'll backstop credit so that you don't have to liquidate.
I downvoted this comment, thinking it was just a silly remark, but now I realize that it's a reference to the Brandon Vedas death:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Vedas
It seems like it was mostly the bodybuilding.com (currently down) forum members that were doing the egging. Justin.tv happened to be caught in the middle.

Google cache: http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:iCJ0Fwq-DVwJ:forum.body...
Programmer scans doodle drawings made during his morning meeting
> If people pay you to make logos and are satisfied, you are a professional logo designer.

Perhaps you missed 'routinely' before 'pay' then ?
Yo Dawg! I herd you like work so we put a browser in your game so you can work while you avoid work!

/sorry for perpetuating this horrible meme but I don't know why I find it hilarious.
We have to face the fact that some of us are simply devoid of human empathy, on or off the internet.
I think that's a rather unfortunate simplification. I'd say that there is quite a bit to be gained from studying leadership in these settings. If the Harvard Business review is covering it, I'd say it is a safe bet that there is some good research being done in this area.
Thats better. Act is supreme than statements given to press. All this press and legal are forcing everyone to lead a false life. one of their true self and one for the press and legal.
I'm sorry to the family and friends of the kid, suicide is the only kind of death that never makes sense no matter how much time passes...

As for justin.tv this could cut both ways. The family could sue, their traffic could go nuclear or both could happen. I don't think justin.tv did anything wrong but if you can sue McDonalds for making coffee too hot you definitely have a shot at this. This could also make national news and justin.tv will attract millions of viewers. I think that they need to be really careful to play down any real or perceived financial benefit that comes from this. They got a lot of attention when the cops banged down his door and this will be a much bigger deal. Being "the place to go" for shocking live videos is a double edged sword. Maybe they should donate to charity in the kid's name?

While a confused teenager's suicide is a tragedy, j.tv is also a victim here. The kid unwittingly put a bunch of other young guys he's never met who are just trying to make a startup in the middle of what may become a major witch hunt.

Good luck with this...
I second Google Sites, because it is very easy to use and has a good WYSIWYG. However, it has its limitations and google tech support is not very good through their forums. The premium version is costly and does not appear to provide any significant benefits on top of the free version.

Anyone know of any google sites worth looking at for their design?
Ask YC: Any Adwords Success Stories out there (especially selling SaaS)?
We're cranking along with organic customer acquisition nicely at RescueTime and have decided to do some experimentation with AdWords (both search and the slightly scary "content network"). We have a pretty good understanding of the lifetime value of a customer, so ideally we could spend X in AdWords and acquire enough customers to justify the expense. Has anyone personally experienced a successful AdWords campaign for a SaaS offering (or heard of one)?
Most of the cases are important in setting precedents though the plaintiffs weren't big names like Viacom:

Perfect 10 v. Google - A porn site sued them over creating thumbnails of their images for image search. Google won, and set an important fair use precedent.

Geico v. Google - Geico sued over Google allowing competitors to buy keywords on Geico's trademark. Google won - this mostly affects keyword advertising.

Field v. Google - Writer sued Google for caching a page with his work. Google won.

There are others...
Woah, this turk thing sounds awesome.
This might be the first full featured in-game browser, but EVE Online has had an in-game browser that supported most HTML and CSS (but not Javascript or plugins) for years.
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This is clearly more convenient, especially for the average user.

Of course, everyone should already be playing their games in a window via Wine. :-p
Having a vile, boisterous, abusive, and slanderous alter ego for your blog personality probably doesn't help too much either.
Bloomington, IL: Don't be afraid of medocrity

Terre Haute, IN: South side of Chicago, without the rest of it.
I actually had to scroll up to the banner to make sure I was still on Hacker News and not reddit.
Actually he's a cofounder of ticketstumbler.
sounds a lot like rest for toddlers by mark pilgrim: http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/12/07/rest-for-toddler...
Also:
http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:r5eE7w8sqEQJ:forum.body...

http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:Y6Es8cNik58J:forum.body...

Be interesting to see if some of those guys get tried with second degree manslaughter or something similar.
Official Google Blog: SearchWiki: make search your own
If there is no spec about it, it's a requirement. But requirements are no less important than bugs. The concept that "new requirements are extra and therefore should be discounted" is a fallacy of the outsourcing model. New requirements often point out things that were missed from the initial requirements gathering, and in many ways are more critical than most bugs.
> Note, the preferred stack is Apache with Erlang running on a linux hacked Coleco that's missing one controller.

Quality stuff on the home page. I'm excited about this service.
Idiots: also available on justin.tv.
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The torch has passed to a new generation....
To start, the first example is moot, as a university is not a competitive entity like a manufacturer. Whether they decide to automate depends on a need to save money where possible, not survive in a marketplace.

Second, you just reaffirmed my point. You are confusing productivity with labor value. By writing a script, you've revolutionized the production of obtaining standard investing data. As such, it requires even less labor. In fact, it now requires no labor, since a machine without any human intervention (save for negligible maintenance costs) can do the job! Why should anyone be paid to--according to what you described above--to do nothing. It's all automated. Now, if investment firm B (my firm) wants to compete, it will have to do the same, since it is spending $X amount to collect the data, while your firm spends $0. This is a pointless cost. As such, it will be forced to do the same to stay in business. Now, firm B no longer requires a warm body to perform the aforementioned task, i.e. it no longer employs someone to enter data. How does not employing someone generate wages for them?

By writing your own script, you cancel out your own employment. While true, that the writing of the "awesome" Web 2.0 app (I love yc news, it's full of this stuff) will absorb a fixed amount of labor, thus keeping you employed for the duration of writing it. Once it is completed though, you will be made obsolete. You essentially, wrote your own death sentence. Now don't this is a misguided Luddite speaking, I am a programmer too, and I can sympathize.

I want to keep up this discussion.
it's probably a discount for future dividend cuts / bankruptcies.
Seriously people? I didn't expect this to be taken well by most here (in fact it was an experiment to see if there was a limit to down-voting), but some of you seem to be on a war path now.

It doesn't really matter what the Justin.tv CEO said. He pasted some boiler plate because there's nothing more to be said; the deed had been done. What do you want? An apology for not finding the video? For not policing the Internet? Prosecution of anybody "egging him on?" Come on.

Someone broadcast their suicide. That fact doesn't make it any more tragic than any other suicide. It also doesn't mean anybody more than usual was responsible. There's really no story here which is why I chose to make a comment that didn't acknowledge there was.

You may return to being irrationally sanctimonious now.
The threat of a strike is not duress. "Accept these terms or we won't work for you" is not that different from "accept these terms or we won't sell you steel".

Companies in other unionized industries have pushed unions to accept significant concessions. If the Big Three management had really believed that accepting the UAW's last offer was going to destroy their business, then they were irresponsible not to endure a strike in order to break the union.
Hi Guys, thanks for the kind words about Twilio. If any YC folks want invites, just hit me up: jeff@twilio.com. Can't wait to see what you guys can build.
I'm not sure that this is any shift at all in Google's policies. It's probably that in all of these cases Google was trying to do maximize their own profits.

It probably just weighed the odds and decided, in those cases where it went to trial, that it was better to try to win the case than pay a huge settlement check. In the Author's Guild suit, they probably realized they had little chance of winning and the results of a loss would be incredibly costly.

It's a mistake to assume a corporation is (or should be) trying to fight for innovation rather than to maximize their own profit. Google may try to avoid evil, but they're not moral crusaders either.
That is true, but regardless, egging someone on who appears to be on the edge of suicide is simply inhuman.
Who ever said that Google should be able to digitize copyrighted works and display them for free? They probably settled because they knew they were legally in the wrong.

Rights holders suing to legitimately protect their IP is not extortion.
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That's why I specified cellulosic or algae-based ethanol.
Crazy stuff. Poor kid. Just show's you can't take what you're told online seriously.
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Posting comments irrelevant to your initial insensitivity will not help save face, especially when you throw in an attack towards the entire crowd.
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how does this have anything to do with what you posted? your comment was insensitive, regardless of what justin.tv executives did or didn't do.
I'm running an AdWords campaign for http://firstblogmedia.com right now.

It's been my experience that image ads on the content network are a favorable way to raise awareness about services that people may not actively search for on Google. The search network, on the other hand, is best for advertising those products and services people know about (e.g. pittsburgh pizza, online productivity software).

Of course Google will say (and I agree) the optimized campaign will include components of both content and search, but it might be useful to consider the different types of traffic you'll get from each, and where you should place the bulk of your effort. I've preferred the content network which gets me more traffic with only a slight compromise in conversions (measured by form sign-ups).

Also, bear in mind that you should create separate, manageable ad campaigns for both networks because Google uses different targeting information for placement in each.

Aside: I'm working on my online advertising chops and should have my Google Advertising Professional certification in a few weeks. If you want to talk to me drop me a line (brian [at] firstblogmedia.com). I'm happy to chat with you guys if it means I'll get some early experience dealing with client questions.
Hive: Facebook's open source data warehouse infrastructure built on top of Hadoop
In a word: anonymity.
Realstoriz.com - the YouTube of real-life stories?
A very young web site, http://realstoriz.com, was launched recently and it set an ambitious goal for itself: to become the largest collection of real-life stories on the web. Just as YouTube is the largest collection of videos from real life, realstoriz.com envisions itself as the central place where everyone can share a story or two with others, read about others' experiences, express their likes by voting for stories, bookmark stories into their profiles on Facebook, MySpace and other social networking sites, etc.
In their own words: "Realstoriz is an online platform that facilitates the sharing of real-life stories with the whole world. It was built on the principle that every human being had experiences that are interesting to others and they deserve to be shared with them".
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karma:	911

it really disappoints me to see users with very high karma levels making such obscene, unnecessary and completely non-hacker-news-esque comments. you are hurting this community: please stop.
Also see: http://search.wikia.com/
They say there's no such thing as bad press, but I'm not so sure anymore.

I came to this forum to escape the Reddit mentality. I'm glad to see that griefers are still being aggressively downmodded here. It gives me hope that the HN community can maintain its quality status.
Haha, yeah. My friend is the programmer behind Artisan and we both ended up posting it at the same time.
The second relies on definition of "to be the same". :-)
It is a tragedy and I feel sorry for him. This is, I think, the only appropriate comment.
I think this is more of a strategic decision. The opportunity is for google and only google to pay to scan all the books. This increases google's value, and competitors need to decide if it is worth it to them to spend the dough.
We've experimented with AdWords several times at HubSpot (a B2B SaaS business).

Although they "worked" (in terms of generating some traffic), this particular channel for lead generation was one of our most effective.

We do much better with leads generated organically through inbound marketing. These include leads through our blog, free web tools and social media sites.

We stopped our AdWords campaigns because they were essentially, just too expensive for us compared to other vehicles for getting leads and customers.
Interesting. Can you use this same reasoning (bound by law to maximize shareholder value) to sue corporations for not operating in developing countries where they can take advantage of lower wages, cheaper labor, no unions, etc? Think GM or something.
#1 seems simple enough, case 2 is different to case 1 where the 1 healthy person is not going to die even if the other 5 die. So it would seem harder to kill a perfectly healthy person (who is not going to die) for 5 who are going to die, as opposed to kill 1 person who will die anyway to save 5.

The third case is again different to the second case because in the second case you have to pull the trigger, where as in the third case the trigger is essentially already pulled and so the responsibility is just to direct the bullet - this puts you in 'damage control' mode.
I don't really see anyone "egging him on". All I see is a bunch of people not taking him seriously.
Question: how do I downvote people.
"Not going to read it right now"

I said the same thing when I first found this a couple of years ago. Any day now...
Seriously people? I didn't expect this to be taken well by most here (in fact it was an experiment to see if there was a limit to down-voting), but some of you seem to be on a war path now.

Oh, so now I'm a guinea pig in a sociology experiment when I come to hacker news?

Nice. That makes it so much better. Don't think I'll be using ticket-bumbler either.

Edit: Note for future.

Ask HN: Paul, Is there a downvote limit on HN?

See, isn't that better?
The scarier issue is that for some people there really isn't a disconnect.
Roll your own search results with Google's new SearchWiki
This is amazing, been wanting something like this for a while. I just wish there was software that allowed me to put notes on parts of websites and keep track of comments. Kind of like building a digital notebook of all the stuff I read and take notes on. The Amazon Kindle sort of does that with books. Is there such a software out there?
So, does this mean you're going to use other languages more often? If so, which?
Which makes his comment even more confounding.
Reminds me of that James Woods film, "Videodrome", an existential musing on reality, specifically, television being more "real" than real life. While dated, one could update the "Videodrome" movie concept for the internet age. Obviously, Justin.tv did nothing wrong, in terms of the fact one cannot edit live video. It does bring up questions about the need for sensationalism, that somehow there is a collective need for it, almost like an archtype.
Not to rub salt into this whole pile of hurt in the Ruby world lately, but I'm shortly going to be promoting (on Ruby Inside) some rather damning news from the Windows camp in relation to how many significant Ruby libraries are either ignoring Windows or not being transparent enough to make it easy to patch the issues.

(I'm not a Windows user, but if Windows is treated like a third world country by Ruby users, it's going to bite us all in the ass.)
Computers we throw away --> go to "third world" countries = our toxic trash problem solves & fewer poor people.

The tough part is making it happen, something I'll have to think about.
striking resemblance to some stuff we were doing at eurekster with a product called "swicki" a couple years ago.
Is it online anywhere? I'd be willing to help out. Undeniably, the best way to learn (to a level of expertise -- that last 10-20%) is to teach.
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Just my idle speculation.
Then again, no one knows if you are shocked and saddened either since all you've posted are complaints about the CEO's response. That's the line of reasoning you are taking, isn't it?

I know the response isn't good PR, but I'm not sure why I or anyone else is supposed to be worried about what the CEO of Justin.tv thinks about the suicide. Maybe they could make it clear to their users to treat such incidents as serious where possible, but how are some kind words supposed to help the situation?
Also it's worth mentioning that the plaintiffs are fearful of ending up with a bad precedent for their side, so they often settle on good terms for Google...
Are you sure you mean typographical? I'm not sure that baseline rhythm counts as errata.
I used to have some with a business I ran. It seemed the key was to constantly experiment with keywords and ad text. Try to think of a lot of smaller keywords where you'll have less competition.

For instance with Draftmix, we've been running ads against the names of some athletes who every fantasy player might be Googling for injury reports but who no normal sports fan would ever care about.
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You sound like a bitter Bostonian who was priced out of New York because you couldn't afford to pay rent on your studio in Alphabet City.

And as a Bostonian, I'd expect you to have enough cerebral instinct to be less transparent with your intuitive writing style. But alas, you all to easily portray your hometown's sad trace of pragmatism by holding ideology over realistic execution, hence why you were probably priced out of NY to begin with.

Another down year on Wall St., yet my bonus alone still affords the Cambridge flat you so wish you could afford to purchase. Hope you grow up some day, and find yourself, cities aside pal.
From my understanding, you are wrong about the use of the scanning. Google didn't want to scan books so that users could then read them, it was scanning them to index them for a book search. So someone could search for books that contained certain text instead of just searching by title, author, etc.

I'm not sure why you think indexing books for searches is equivalent to "digitize copyrighted works and display them for free".

Unless I am mistaken about this?
I find PmWiki to be simple and straight to the point.

http://pmwiki.com/
Salesforce.com Beats Expectations
What did he do?

Waxy is one of my favorite blogs. He's so consistently interesting.
I'm assuming you meant was "not" one of our most effective?
I liked Shiny as well, but there are some white on black blocks that were hard on my eyes, so I'm currently using the "New Blue."
I just now saw this in my account, before I heard the news. I've actually wanted something like this before when I used Google as a big bookmarking service.

But for a moment, I thought I had got hit with some kind of strange virus or some out of control Firefox mod.

Nah, just Google doing Google-ly things.