skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
You're right. And for that individual, he was probably not interested in the negotiating game. However, if you were convinced that he was indeed just trying to keep his cost of living, if I were in your shoes, I would have put my foot down with the CEO and told him that I am not going to back to insult the candidate with the low-ball offer. Sure, he could have fired you, but I highly doubt it. If he asked let's see how badly he wants the job, I would have said. "I disagree, it's against what I stand for, and if you want to negotiate like that, you can do it yourself." (perhaps not verbatim, but absolutely the gist). How badly did he want to keep you in your job.

People like that are bullies. He was bluffing. He would have folded like a cheap camp chair. Point proven by the fact that you ended up at 90K, but not before the candidate got the bad taste of the CEO antics.

As a middle manager, I learned that sometimes it is absolutely necessary to beat my superiors for the sake of my subordinates. It's harder, but if you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything.

Maybe it will cost me my job some day, but I highly doubt it will be a job I would want to keep for the long run.

You took the high road. I choose to fight fire with fire. :-) In the end, neither of us would probably be in that position for much longer, either way.
That's helpful...thanks! Do you have a link for that?
Work with a recruiter, get lots of offers, let them bid the salary up, then take the best offer/job.

It's really that simple.
Or the alternate solution is to show all of my posts (even those that were not marked Public) in my profile page, so that when people visit my profile, they can see what I write about and decide to circle me. There could be a mechanism to mark posts as private which should not even be shown in the profile page.
thank you for your feedback.

1. Originally I didnt implement that to stop bots but I dont think its an issue now. I will change it. Facebook login goes straight in.

2. Yep when you change your location all your watchers will be watching the sites for the new location. Search runs every 5minutes.

3. Interesting suggestion, I will have to think how to implement that. You can also set a provice wide search, if you select your locaton as just the province.

4. agreed

thanks again, hope it helps you find what you are looking for.
But by the same facile reasoning where modern linguistic norms are ignored in favor of older, simpler roots, "crank" just means "turn," and turning is often a good thing.
One cool thing we can add to the app is all the features you just described about multiple alarms and snooze options or screen-lock codes or whatever. We can have a mode where it starts off kind of quiet and gets louder, or maybe you want a really nice song to start off with, but then you can have it play more and more annoying songs if you keep hitting snooze. We hope you wouldn't have to keep hitting snooze though, because the iDreamSaver is going to wake you up at the right time to begin with!
This is clearly an egregious case of design theft, particularly considering the fact that they're actually linking to assets off the Highrise site. But at the risk of opening myself up to an absolute shit hurricane, I'm curious where my site would fall on the Highrise design theft scale: http://www.powerplayforsalesforce.com.

Personally I think it's fine, but it's also obvious that I read 37signals' post a while back re: their a/b testing and thought to myself: Hey, that's a great idea! Instead of doing a long form like everyone else, let's blow up a picture of a guy (me) on the left, put a video in the middle, and put some bullet points to the right with a signup button on bottom. Short and to the point, and incidentally, a technique that's been in use by print advertising since the beginning of print advertising.

So where exactly is the line? (and I'm asking because I'm truly curious if I've crossed it) 3 bullet points about your product is nothing new. The smiling guy you can relate to with a testimonial isn't new. Some screenshots or a product video above the fold isn't new. But I certainly wouldn't give myself a ton of credit for originality in landing page design. I guess I could put the guy on the right and bullet points to the left. I could move the signup bottom. I could have more content in my footer. How do you take the general concept and produce something that doesn't look like something of a rip off?

Personally, I have a lot of respect for what 37Signals has achieved over the years. So while I certainly want to learn from their mistakes and successes, I certainly don't want to be accused of being a scumbag design thief. Any thoughts?
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Allan did have some silly responses. Either he was panicking and couldn't think clearly (he does have a lot on the line) or he genuinely doesn't understand what the problem is. On the other hand, I think David is overreacting and trying to get as much attention as possible -- seems a bit childish.

If I was in David's shoes, I'd be shocked to see how much they directly copied and simply ask them to take it down, and possibly notify their investors. I'd also be proud that they used my design.
I don't think we can add the hammer or the electric-shock, but we can certainly add a virtual metal-plate in front of the snooze button, and we can even make it so you have to answer a question or type in a code to release it. We can try to do whatever our user community comes up with, it's all software, so we can add lots of cool features as time progresses.
I think michaelochurch's comment http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3522910 is more accurate than the article, but I think the type of problem does have quite a lot to do with it.

If the problem domain is defined by physics or physical function, I think most time estimates are going to be a lot closer. You might still get outliers, but most experienced people in the domain will probably give you decent estimates.

When you get human's preferences, design, business processes, and regulations into the mix, estimates can be wildly off. I once thought a defined business process would yield a decent software specification, but that never seemed to work out since the "flexibility" argument seems to creep in. Never mind multi-national companies that have a defined business process that is actually executed totally differently at every location.
As I slip on my typographic curmudgeon's hat, I have to ask where are the printer's ornaments? Can you set a chess diagram with anything in Google web fonts? Don't think we've quite arrived yet...
"I'm happy to copy the css styles for it."
vs
" I've still coded everything myself."

No, you haven't.

Seeing a website look that you like and emulating it by creating a blackbox version of it is fine, seeing a website look that you like and grabbing the css styling for it is breaching copyright.
Its also ridiculously lazy in a bad way, getting someone else's css to work with your html is going to be way more painful than simply writing your own.
Unless you also copy the html for it?

Seriously. As a professional you do not get to take other people's work without their permission.
As a civilian you can do what you like, but if you want people to think of you as a professional, you need to act professionally.
An interesting article - thanks for the link.

In summary, these practices are extremely common, and Ben Horowitz recommends them. However, they are technically illegal in California.
Please check out the Facebook/Twitter functionality :).

The idea is not to have another RSS reader, but to have a News Reader, that would fetch all news coming from as most sources as possible. RSS are just part of it.
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Is this your site? http://geomium.com/

The site doesn't look like it's too resource intensive. Why not bootstrap it? You could get a dedicated box for a couple of hundred bucks per/month and then do some consulting to pay for it/your living expenses.

You definitely got some traction. I wouldn't give it up just yet.
Of note: There are several of us in #mongrel2 on Freenode, and there are periodic patches from us :).
HNers including Patrick (http://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/all&q=by%3Apatio1...) and Matt Might (http://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/all&q=by%3Amattmi...) have been talking about this for years now. There's a lot of benefit to be had by carefully grepping through the comment archives of HN.
I also think QR codes could eventually be used by "shock site" trolls as in the bad ol' days on Slashdot. It's perfect because there's no way to inspect the URL before visiting the website. I've scanned a few QR codes on street lamps (for music events, etc.) and this is always in the back of my head.

Here's a much more fun example of a QR code prank: http://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/302963_1... (totally SFW of course)
I'm sorry, I just have a problem with this mentality.

Things are fucked up, so we should expect it to continue being fucked up, and now that it is expected, we shall deem it acceptable...

> It's a sad state of affairs when we, as employees, wholly expect this behavior...
Ask PG: What do you think about the curebit incident?
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Agreed. If I were larry or sergei I'd fire Schmidt. Now, that might mean I'd never run a company as large as google, but I'm okay with that. This incident removes Google from my list of tech giants I'd work for leaving it, well, empty.

Sad to see. I'm not surprised by the behaviour of Apple and others, but I thought better of Google than this.
Wow, they even copied a lot of the CSS ids/class names.

> 37signals is a bit hypocritical

There's a difference between leveraging the lessons learned/data gathered from a particular design and copying the design itself nearly verbatim. A big one.
I fully agree. Sometimes saying nothing is better. I don't mean forever, but think about it, sleep on it, but don't just 'react'.
Maybe. Tail recursion optimizes itero-recursive algorithms, turning them into iterative algorithms by eliminating the overhead.

Confused? Here are the iterative, recursive, and itero-recursive ways of writing the factorial function:

function fact_r(N) {
return N <= 0 ? 1 : N * fact_r(N - 1);
}
function fact_i(N) {
var acc = 1, i;
for (i = 1; i <= N; i += 1) {
acc *= i;
}
return acc;
}
function fact_ir(N, acc) {
acc = acc || 1; // default value of acc
return N <= 0 ? acc : fact_ir(N - 1, N * acc);
}

So the accumulator variable becomes an argument variable which may have to be separately initialized. The key feature which makes something optimized for "tail calls" is that when f(something) wants to recurse, it returns f(something else). In other words, certain conditional logics can happen, but don't leave an operation like the "n " in "n recurse(n - 1)" on the stack or else you can't get rid of the function call. It's not even a special optimization -- basically you can move one line in the compiler a couple steps ahead of where you might have automatically written it, and it suddenly treats iteration and tail-recursion the same.

So that's the difference. If you can understand fact_ir, which does the iterative idea in a recursive syntax, then you can understand tail recursion.
> I do wish there were more fonts with 3+ styles (reg, bold and ital at least)

On a related note, this was linked from a few places the other day:

http://somadesign.ca/demos/better-google-fonts/
It seems unavoidable that from now on lots of managers the world over will cargo cult the surface characteristics of Steve Jobs' management style in the hope of obtaining his "magic", everybody seems to have read that book. I hope it won't be a huge fad, working under a second-rate Jobs imitator is pretty much my vision of Hell.
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I don't know who they were referring to in the report, although you could probably contact them to inquire about the specifics.

But just by quickly searching Google I found quite a few instances in which real reporters were harmed or arrested: A WNYW Fox photographer (Roy Isen) was maced/attacked with a baton, a Milwaukee Journal Sentinel photographer (Kristyna Wentz-Graff) was arrested despite her credentials hanging from her neck, an RT television reporter (Lucy Kafanov) was struck with a baton, a journalist in TN (Jonathan Meador) was arrested. John Farley (a reporter for WNET in NY) was arrested. That's just from 5 minutes of searching, so it wouldn't surprise me if the 25 figure only represented professionals.
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http://www.psdmate.com/2012/01/28/world-record-for-the-largest-observed-snowflake/
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It seems the blog is completely down.
I love Scrivener. You can export to mobi, epub, PDF, Doc, and a bunch of other formats.
I don't believe your idea only gets one shot, necessarily. You measure customer feedback and iterate. Just build it and build a profitable business. Then come back and tell us how your successful web business started out, or still uses, Wordpress. Wordpress is VERY functional for many startup uses, so as long as your copy, design and UI are up to snuff, and your service is the best you can make it, you have a decent chance.
Thanks. Those are the kinds of features we expect to put in our App too. I have even bigger plans for the App in fact, but I don't want to give away all my secrets here, because some of them can be copied. But, I'll just say that it's going to be incredible, amazing, and world-changing! If we make our funding goal and get these things out there in large quantities, and add all the features to the App that we're thinking of, people are never going to go back to traditional alarm clocks again. In fact, we don't even thing they'll be called "alarm clocks" for much longer.
Ok, I'm the stupid one. Please point out where I insulted you do I can give you credit and retract my claims.
I tried blogging once, but what put me off was the amount work and time it took to make it look good. You've got to format it so that it's readable to persons other than yourself. You need to provide links to relevant/related sites (which sometimes you have search for it because you didn't bookmark it, which you didn't think you needed to because you didn't know you were going to use it in your blog). Embedding stuff is such a pain in my experience. If it's a video, you got to get the size right, the default is always either too big or too small. And I have yet to find a hassle-free way to embed code, especially from the free blogging sites. With images, you need to resize them so that there's a small one inside the post itself, which links to the bigger one when clicked. All that time spent on making it look good is better used to actually do my work, in my opinion.
Ornaments? Ha. A lot of them don’t have italics. Or reasonable kerning. Or text figures. Or even basic “special” characters like ñ.

I’d give up dozens of attractive but incomplete fonts for a single complete one. One or two bugs or minor missing features puts a font out of the question as a default.
He bleeds. He's not afraid to be brutally honest, which very few people do and makes for very entertaining writing.
Maybe that is the apology.
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Semantics over whether copying their code and images constitutes "theft" or "stealing", it's pretty obvious that using images hosted from their server is a type of theft of resources. Granted, the amount of resources in this case is likely a small fraction of a cent, but still.
They must have got a hold of 37's backend and forgot to change the database password to their own!
That's the new bootstrapped version :)

Originally it was a location based "awareness" platform, with people, places, events and deals. The iOS app was the main part, and that's what I pulled. I focused the site down to just events, and now that's running on a single server. It's far from the original vision though, and no longer my main focus.
Mouseover the text and the tooltip shows the font name.
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No I've managed to read it a while ago
Ah so I did. That's under the bullet point "Blogging can help you reach and teach a wide audience" and I missed it. Now I have to be honest, by the end I was reading the bold headlines and skimming the text. Oops. :)
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The actual apology:

Recently we launched a site with several pages copied from 37signals' Highrise. We did more than take inspiration from their design - we actually used html & css code, and hotlinked to images on their site. We apologize to David and 37signals for ripping off their work. It was stupid, lazy, and disrespectful of their creative efforts. It's particularly painful for us to have done this to 37signals because they are big heroes of ours. We just hope they will accept our apologies.
Absolutely. Funny that you mention "luck surface area". At some point in the book I actually say as much:

> There is no magic wand that can make this happen, instead it’s all about increasing your luck surface area.
To be fair, perhaps both of those companies used purchased themes or artwork from something like themeforest as a starting point.

But this definitely looks bad, particularly in light of the 37signals dustup.

EDIT: Looks that way for the rocket ship at least: http://www.bigstockphoto.com/image-5418738/stock-vector-retr...
You should probably edit the title to "Apology to 37signals, Kinoma, and LaunchBit"

Edit: The LaunchBit image is a stock photo. I apologize.
> Maybe you could point to me where 37Signals no longer has what was stolen?

I'm in full agreement that copyright infringement is not theft.

However, I think this part of the argument is weaker. Things can have value through scarcity, and even more so through uniqueness. To copy something, in such cases, can lead to a reduction in value of the original. If what you had was "the only <whatever> in the world" someone copying it takes that away from you without ever taking the item away.

Whether that's true in this specific case, is a somewhat different argument, of course.
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We are using BizSpark for two months now and it helps a lot, but it's not for free you have to pay 100$ after three years.
I don't think either make any sense. I guess you could give Windows the nod for not really even making any pretense of making sense (my favorite detail is how 64-bit system files go in "System32" and 32-bit system files go in "SysWOW64"). OTOH while I never got the /bin /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin thing, I always vaguely assumed there was some deep reason behind it that I just didn't understand.
"Recently we launched a site with several pages copied from 37signals’ Highrise. We did more than take inspiration from their design – we actually used html & css code, and hotlinked to images on their site. We apologize to David and 37signals for ripping off their work. It was stupid, lazy, and disrespectful of their creative efforts. It’s particularly painful for us to have done this to 37signals because they are big heroes of ours. We just hope they will accept our apologies."

from Google cache
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&...
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It's a bit like stealing another standup's jokes, or biting another rapper's lyrics. Not illegal, probably not immoral, but it will certainly make you look like a dick.
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Imo it's also because it's no style; copying source code, linking to resources from another site, copying logo's,.. It's like going to an English gentlemen's tea party clothed like a beggar & shitting all over the place. And then replying on twitter "why do you care i shitted all over the place? what's the big deal?"
The blog is down, I am getting "error establishing a database connection"
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Pretty good apology Dave McClure wrote for them.
Several reasons. Managers want to believe that programming is like installing a kitchen. It should have a clear start, middle, end, and a reasonable estimate of time and cost that could almost be written in a contract. Devs don't want to admit they never installed a kitchen before and need to research the topic first, because if they do the job will be given to someone else who is willing to say they install kitchens all day long.

Oh yeah, managers also believe that changing the counter top from marble to granite in the middle of the project should be free, because, hey, it's software.
Personally, I blog because writing helps me think. But as it turns out it's also a marvelous lead generation tool, and just generally a brilliant way to put my name out there and make sure people remember me when they're thinking "Hmm, where could I find a crazy coder right now?"

Not to mention the rush of adrenaline when a post sticks and starts raking in traffic. Very addicting.
One thing I see coming up over and over in these comments is that people get upset that this is called "stealing". The logic goes that stealing deprives the original owner, and since 37signals hasn't been deprived of the code and images that were copied (the hosting is a separate issue), this doesn't constitute theft.

While that may be a good argument that file-sharing is not "stealing" (though may still be unethical), I'm not sure it's an accurate assessment in the arena of design.

Part of the purpose of design is branding and establishing a unique visual identity in the marketplace. By copying these designs, curebit hasn't deprived 37signals of the actual code and images, but they have deprived them of some degree of unique visual identity. And to that extent, isn't this stealing?
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The copying seems to go deeper than just an experimental A/B test. Compare:

http://highrisehq.com/signup

with the top half of

http://www.curebit.com/pricing

Edit: Replaced Basecamp signup page with Highrise signup page.
Assuming credit is granted.

Creatives work on design to be creative; they don't outright steal it to save time and resources. It's what thy do and witness what happens when you cross them.
Presumably then Mr. Niceguy then walks out the door, if he was actually being honest about requiring 90k.
i've been thinking about starting a blog for sometime. There seems to be a lot of ways to achieve this.. I'm a developer but not sure if i want to host/administer my own instance of word press.. aside from working 50-60 hours, i spend 10 hours a week on personal projects, so not a lot of spare time.. what's a good streamlined way to start a blog quickly, but still have good flexibility in it's appearance?
Looks like you photoshopped your face onto someone else's body.
I submitted this because he does a good job summing up some of the major issues with this type of legislation. That said, the article is lacking in good suggestions for alternatives.

The following quote also displays a bit of naivety and misunderstanding of how the internet works:

And who knows? Perhaps inventors will come up with a seamless way for you to be charged a fraction of a cent in royalties if you inadvertently upstream copyrighted material.
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I'm not sure I get what your point is? Sounds like they did a good job estimating but would give in to pressure to arbitrarily change their estimates? How does that conflict with aharrison's point that estimates/plans are poor in most fields largely because of the way we plan?
I'm astounded how many people here are defending this... Leaving all other aspects aside, why should I trust a company that doesn't even have enough pride to spend 5 minutes whipping up their own fucking button images?

And that they have over a million dollars in funding just makes this even more sad...