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Comparing results and running with what works best? (aka split testing)

I don't think that alone is a novel idea in the slightest.

Every human does it at one time or another.

Be it choosing their favorite toothpaste or selecting the advertising slogan that will win you the honor of being called "The Father of Advertising".
>And how is this information different then an IP adress that they also have with each request?

Unscrupulous marketers can't do much with your IP address. They can do a lot more evil with your mobile number: SMS spam, cold calls, re-sell your data, etc, etc...
The write-up is more charitable when it comes to the possible reason why this may be happening. The specific quote: " Our suspicion is that the feature is used by internal O2 websites to identify the user trying to make changes to the account, but that one or more of O2's proxy servers have been misconfigured."

x-up-calling-line-id (and similar headers from other gateway vendors) are typically not meant to be sent in the clear beyond internal sites. Perhaps a certain set/class of URL ACLs were (mis)configured during a maintenance window that caused this to happen.

Similar to how websites leave cookies, carriers have always had the ability to send certain identifying information to external sites. Usually, such identifying information is munged in some way that doesn't make it possible to determine the mobile number of the subscriber.

The funny thing is that people are often surprisingly willing to provide their phone number on more and more sites, which then makes it trivial for such services to link the anonymized identifier with the actual mobile number.

Regarding the customer support folks, it's highly unlikely that they know anything about HTTP headers, since they are typically level 1 support. This type of query/complaint would be filtered up to level 2 or 3 usually quite quickly once enough customers start calling in, or if somebody happens to be reading certain media outlets (e.g. HN).
Well, it'll get you considerably more than the majority of people living in NYC or SF have. =]
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Information Commissioner, or at least his office.

However, I think it is generally percieved as personal.
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So you are basically paying 125$+ to have S3 cached locally and get an iSCSI interface ?
Completely off-topic: what is this site trigger.io? I cannot access it – apparently it is flagged as suspicious: http://s16.postimage.org/blt1xsb79/triggerio.png
It certainly doesn't seem to be a site hosting porn or child abuse content, nor does it sound like a terrorist cell propaganda site – so why would it be blocked? Should I put my paranoid hat on?

Also, does it happen to be any cached/alternative sources for that content that's not hosted there so I can read the article? Normally I could use an anonymous proxy but it seems like too much of a hassle (it's not that easy to find an anonymous one that hasn't been already banned internally as well). Thank you!
This article reminds me of Player Piano by Kurt Vonnegut.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_Piano

It's a pretty good read. It has an interesting take on a future where machines do the majority of the work. With the way things are headed, I'd say a society like the one described in Player Piano might not be to far off. I'm still undecided whether that's a good thing or not.
Tell me more about your experience in Sweden :)

Always interesting to hear from hi-tech SFites who have been to this corner of the world.
From my brief reading of Werner's blog post, it seems that this is very similar to what Nasuni have been selling.
Headers are too easily spoofed to carry security information without a signature.
IP address does not always personally identify someone without extra information, usually obtainable only with a court order. Your IP address does not move with you, your number does. IP can not be used to personally bother you at any point in the future. This also makes a mockery of any "safe mode" browsing you do, enabling you to be tracked regardless.

Also, just because this can be used for good does not mean
A) it can't be used for bad
B) it is sharing private data that should only happen with your knowledge and consent
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The case of adding some files or bits of files is one of the few cases where I spin up a GUI tool. I find git-cola is excellent at this.

The other GUI case is using qgit when browsing logs in detail.
I don't have a personal need for this right now, but the fact that it stores the data as EBS volumes is pretty cool. I could imagine having local servers automatically mirrored so that they could be failed over to instances on ec2. Very powerful stuff indeed.
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This doesn't appear to be happening with the Samsung Galaxy Nexus

*edit scratch that it is happening now. Both attempts were on 3G only. Seems it doesn't always happen.
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I find I just use tab-completion. I'm quite used to writing the names of the files in my project anyway, and find the "hard core" interaction through the shell quite pleasant, it simply is in line with what you tend to do in the shell.

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Strawmen.

The only argument I am making is that Democracy means "rule by the people", where "the people" is an arbitrary bunch. And in no way has it always meant "everybody living on this land". This populist form of democracy is an invention of 19th century.

What I am arguing is that I have noticed in historic annals that democracies that have been virtuous and didn't implode after a generation all had built in safeguards from populism. And that citizenship was never viewed as an universal right, but always as privilege that one has to actively protect and exercise else it will be taken away.

Indeed many people do not vote, however when some drastic measures need to be taken, short term sacrifices for long term gain - these people will turn up and block any hope of change.

Also I would like to remind you, that popular democracy was viewed as an instrument of change, that mass participation in political process would enable society to evolve faster into better forms. What it has proven is that rule of the mob is the best "status quo" preserving device anybody ever imagined.

You chose to attack the proposed mechanism, but I merely used it as an example. Should you read this thread, you would notice that I proposed random draw as another alternative.

All I am arguing is that some very wise people eons ago noticed, that for prosperity to happen, you need an elite.

Thats what kept Roman republic strong for so long - the balance between elite and the mob. Once the mob managed to break all the "privileges" of the elite, Rome was effectively doomed.

I am not advocating policy here, I am discussing politics and history. No need to call me names and mock me.

Thank you.

Edit: Soviet Russia (or any communist country) was not a country ruled by an Elite. One does not become Elite by killing previous Elite and proclaiming himself one. Building Elite class takes generations. What happened in communist countries is what you get when you eradicate the Elite and let inmates run the asylum.
When I first had to use Windows 7 and used the new "Start" Button (or whatever they call it nowadays) I actually thought this could be a real step forward. I have been using nothing else but dmenu in my work environments and it is a pleasure. This is really just a case where bad implementation ruins the whole experience. Apparently it wasn't judged worth the effort and maybe usage-statistics show that most of their users never use that functionality. It's a loss anyhow.
Just because they have RSS feeds, doesn't mean you are allowed to scrape them. RSS feeds have plenty of legitimate consumer purposes.
Yeah I completely agree with this. There is an attitude just like this in England at the moment. There aren't enough graduates using their initiative and being creative in either finding jobs or making work for themselves to fight the declining level of jobs. The assumption is, leave school, go to University, get a job. Unfortunately for them that route is failing now.
So we're currently building an economy that the "average person" doesn't have the skills to participate in.

OK.

So who are we building this economy for, and why?
While this is interesting, it's still early days. In the meantime, using a control system based on a caloric deficit and regular measurement of weight and caliper fat, combined with some weight training to prevent muscle loss, is still the best way to lose weight.

People spend too much time looking for a silver bullet. We already have lead bullets and they're plenty effective for 99.999% of cases.
Very true. Carsabi could easily make craigslist look stupid if they don't stay on top of their listings.
Much appreciated - it's nice to hear and see others using it.
There's a few commits to catch up with on the 2.0-wip branch, hopefully I'll get some updates done and pushed today.
That doesn't mean one can't educate oneself on what it is though no?

I mean I am a designer but still taught myself programming and is generally interested in technology.

Understanding design better will make you a better programmer IMHO.
At the very least an update is probably in order. To really over-simplify (somewhat unfairly), my read of the "socialist alternative's" theorizing is that it's gone in waves roughly like this: 1) extensive analysis of 19th-century economic systems, especially factory production (Marx et al) and agriculture (Kropotkin, the kibbutz movement, etc.); followed by a period of 2) focus on culture/ideology/hegemony as the place the "real battle" is fought (Gramsci, neo-Gramscians, post-structuralist Marxism); but not really followed by 3) extensive analysis of 21st-century economic and technological systems.

I think even for people who disagree with them, it'd be healthier for there to be a Left that paid close, scientific/analytical attention to present-day material conditions, rather than focusing mainly on culture/ideology like the neo-Gramscians, or tying themselves too strongly to 19th-century analyses of 19th-century conditions. Or, for that matter, just taking an amorphous "against the greedy bankers" line like the populist left does, which is probably good politics, but not a deep analysis.
In a way, they are. People haven't changed that much since then.

However, economic models need spring into existence from the ground up. They are emergent. The world is too complex for them to be designed by theorists. This is why base capitalism (not the complex beast it has become) works, as even without any pressure people start trading. USSR communism collapsed because it needs to be enforced from the top, and you can only keep up a lie for so long.

The same is true for our current zombie-capitalism. We do need to give new systems some room to form and grow, though... and not label it as EVIL communism/capitalism/someotherism too soon, as that will cause typical path lock-in.
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This does not happen on giffgaff, a MVNO owned by and operating on O2s network.
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>how about faux ai that can write simple web apps or come up with good designs?

A major class of workers that software has a tendency of replacing is programmers themselves. Bespoke solutions are replaced by what used to be called shrink-wrapped applications. In the web area, look at how services such as Squarespace replace bespoke sites by providing easy to use site design tools.
Some tweets claim it isn't happening for them any more so maybe this was a mistake being fixed?

However, amusing it's a honest mistake being fixed, this still SHOULD NOT HAPPEN in the first place. Companies dealing with personal data need to be more careful when the ramifications of "honest mistakes" can be so serious. It's right that people are making a fuss about this and pressuring O2 to fix this.

> The funny thing is that people are often surprisingly willing to provide their phone number on more and more sites, which then makes it trivial for such services to link the anonymized identifier with the actual mobile number.

Sure, but that still doesn't excuse this.
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Using Opera Mini seems to disable this "feature". Of course, doing so means all of my web traffic goes via Oslo. And of course, any apps using an http API are presumably affected too. I'm rather disappointed to hear about this.
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Well, their twitter guy just woke up: https://twitter.com/#!/o2
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On the other hand, in some contexts we hand our numbers out freely :-) I may be being pessimistic, but I suspect lawyers would have expensive "fun" with the details of this one.
Orange UK here - nothing in my headers. Clean as a whistle.
> If that's all it had been, the judgement makes it clear that the result would not have been infringing.

The judge appears to follow a rather interesting line of reasoning about this. The defendants identified a whole bunch of very similar works. The plaintiff said he'd never seen them and the judge took him at his word. You can see this starting near item #49.

So his work was considered original and theirs wasn't.
Can someone give a brief explanation of what this service is good for?
I'm on Giffgaff, which is a daughter company of O2, same problem. Started a support thread on the website, let's see what they say.
Khoi Vinh's Ordering Disorder is a good book on grids, and its focused entirely on web design.

Although, nothing beats Brockmann's Grid Systems book mentioned earlier.

http://www.amazon.com/Ordering-Disorder-Principles-Design-Vo...
Actually it does for me. Perhaps its the handset that determines this issue? I have a O2 PAYG HTC HD7 WP7.5 device that I use with GiffGaff and the page clearly lists the header and my phone number.
What you've described is the sort of problem YC has been calling for. It's not a glorified to-do list, it's a real-world problem in a multi-billion dollar industry with complacent players.

It sounds like a nontrivial task to figure out:
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Or more accurately, the average has changed.
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This will be a fun day for the poor workers on level-1 support :-)
I am that guy, the average programmer. I used to wire up mobile apps to back end services. I have had no interest in my services for over a year. I think I have been replaced by iCloud, urban airship, parse, etc...
Yes, and in one step rather than the two provided by this plugin. This smells a bit like someone not knowing their tools.
Here's hoping the endgame of programmers putting themselves out of work is the nerd rapture (friendly A.I., post-scarcity, etc.).

But from what I can tell in history, the future tends to turn out much weirder than the human imagination can conceive.
I'm not seeing the header - HTC Desire.
This paragraph illustrates the controversy well—judge makes it clear that photos would ‘accidentally’ infringe if judged as suggested by claimant, and it was not the reason behind the judgement:

> 62. Each side put its case too high. The defendants are wrong to urge that only facsimile copying will do. I also disagree with the claimant's formulation. The angles are similar but not the same and in any case I am sure there are many things satisfying the claimant's definition which would not infringe.

But the next paragraph—what seems to reason judge's decision—looks a bit subjective:

> 63. … they still include the key combination of what I have called the visual contrast features with the basic composition of the scene itself. It is that combination which makes Mr Fielder's image visually interesting. It is not just another photograph of clichéd London icons.

That said, I think the decision is correct to make in the light of ‘Another matter’ (which was in fact ignored):

> What is behind this case is that the defendants' tea tins and boxes are sold side by side with souvenirs bearing the claimant's image.

IANAL though.
Firstly I don't work for O2 but I work in the mobile industry. O2 should only be passing your number to trusted sites (and to get on that list is pretty hard).

We have reported it to them via various internal contacts we have. Hopefully they will fix this soon!
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Because that worked out so well for Russia and China. Command economies have never efficiently allocated resources, and they never will. Economies are just too complicated for a single central authority to control successfully. They can never have enough accurate information, and can't be flexible enough to rapidly changing circumstances.

Just look at the hopeless response to the financial crisis from European leaders. You really want to put politicians in charge of all business activity as well?
I got the header inserted on my iPhone 3Gs, not happy about this.
Thanks guys for the comments. Really appreciate it. And please excuse the lack of asking more precisely, what I meant to ask was if you guys see any chance and need in a new company that produces hardware and software? Of course thats not all Apple is about...after all you might not need a similar company whatsoever. However, currently I don't see any company out there with the potential to come up with a similar set up (hence I totally agree with chris_dcosta and in part with dholowiski).
Can you tell us more about the kind of people who count as a trusted site, how you get on this list, and if this is made public/opt-outable anywhere? (Thanks for reporting!)
It is funny that some of the same people that claim that using and sharing other people work is ok and that copyrights and IP are evil also think that what Zynga did in this case is "stealing", "rip off" or immoral, at best.

Why would it be ok to just copy other people work and enjoy it, while creating something similar to something else is not ok?
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I didn't read anything about giving anyone a PhD?

I could be wrong, but he's talking less about "shifting" average to include a PhD, to shifting how average people are going to have to fend for themselves - which is to fight to be above average. As another commenter pointed out, this is impossible (if everyone's special, no one is), but it's also good to mention that you get to choose whether or not you want to be average. Sure, you can rely on being a cog in a machine, but if you do that, you just jumped into a super-competitive market dominated by machines and cheap overseas labor.

So, you can either relegate yourself to that fate or choose something different.

I believe his point was that there's a shift in the past could escape with being average because it was localized and there was less overall competition for jobs because of geographic limitations.

The math is that the market for average has been commoditized over 7 billion people + machines, rather than the 300 million people we used to. That brings the level of average much, much lower for certain types of works. So, the solution isn't to try and raise your qualifications level in a pool of average people, but rather jump in a different pool altogether, where your value as a worker is not so easily commoditized (knowledge workers, developing fields & emerging tech).

For anyone familiar with Seth Godin, this talk isn't very new at all - http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2006/04/no_to_averag...