skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> You're imagining an independent demigod

I may be imagining, but I am not supposing or assuming. I'm asking a question. I believe your answer was "Nothing would happen." I'm asking for a more thorough response that explains why nothing would happen.

> It's more like a highly dependent child that can't leave its little room and requires someone to provide for it

I'm asking why, fundamentally, we know this to be true. Is it through testing, or is it through theory?

> These are foundational discussions that have been endlessly discussed for decades... [etc]

I'm aware. But what I think you're referencing are theoretical discussions, which range from sci-fi to academic papers on the future of AI.

I'm asking something specific: do we know what would happen if we gave current (or future) GPT models unbridled access to the internet, with no filters or restrictions, and abilities to do such things as make HTTP requests or hold SSH sessions?

If you have any hard data on this, that is what I'm asking for. If you don't then I think my question stands.

My intuition is that you are doing the same hand-waving as everyone else. Nobody actually knows the answers to these questions. It's just a bunch of people on HN answering them based on their knowledge of neural nets, or LLMs, or whatever, saying "oh it's like a child" and "oh it could never do anything serious!"

I'm asking why and how we know. Is there a specific answer?
> Group SMS as a problem is just SOLVED by using whatsapp.

I tried using WhatsApp once and there’s essentially no way to use it unless you give it access to your entire address book. You have to give it every single bit of metadata about every contact on your phone (which they will surely use to place you on a social graph to build a profile of you) in order to use it.

Fuck that.
For a developer centric tool I expect it to gravitate towards showing the code.

Here is a random example: https://phind.com/search?q=how+to+list+BLE+devices+on+IOS+us...

I quickly got tired of asking for code examples in the follow up as it's an extra roundtrip.
Wages are declining. Not the dollar amount, but the purchasing power. The fed can pretend that they are lowering inflation, but unless we have negative inflation, the damage is done. The higher prices are here to stay.

On top of that, the measures of inflation and unemployment aren’t even tracking half the thing that contribute to the health of consumer spending.
Most companies will go through 1-2 agile boilerplates before defining, building and owning their own process.

If a team moves onto a 3rd boilerplate, they've missed the premise of agile retrospectives.
I wonder how this impacts their development groups like ClienTech (yes, the typo is how it's named).

They are quite successful.
Uh, you forgot to add a link?
https://agilemanifesto.org/

"Individuals and interactions over processes and tools"

(a)gile wasn't about "ewww your software is old and stodgy so you can't play in our sandbox!"
I don't see any downside to a 4 day work week. Workers should expect to get paid 4/5 of what they made before, but it could be well worth it.
Midjourney gives "better" results much easier. That's all, and for that, you trade away flexibility and freedom.
The problem with this idea is it runs counter to any hope of AI alignment and differential technology development. You can't solve the control problem by throwing out what little control you still have.

If dumping laundry detergent into a pile creates gold, but once the pile reaches 1 million lbs it causes the Earth to explode, you have to find a way that no one can gather such a pile. Not "democratize" the practice and letting anyone anywhere have as much detergent as they wish.
Interestingly no comments from anyone in India considering that is the largest tech market outside the US and where majority of jobs are moving to and India seems to be one of the few countries growing and projected to do well in this economic slump environment. I guess all their developers are busy working so no time for HN.
Organizations that adopt one of the better bureaucratic processes like Scaled Agile Framework (SAFe) do actually ship on time. What they ship might have quality problems or fail to meet customer requirements, but at least they ship something. For some organizations that alone is a huge step forward and can put them on a path to additional improvements.
Bullshit. None of it was ever released.

Until they actually release something and let the masses access their precious AI research there is no evidence they have anything at all.

Epic, complete blunder by Google.
I believe GCP cut deals with Cohere.
I’m using the term beneficiary to mean “someone who gets out of it more than they put into it”. For the upper half of taxpayers who pay 97% of the cost of those public goods, they’re losing.

Regarding subsidization of low-income earners by welfare, I see it as a moot point. The cost of their labor has been artificially decreased by the presence of the welfare system. Society as a whole still pays the cost of that labor, just Walmart gets to get away with not being the one paying it.

I am also yet to meet even the hardest-core of libertarians who don’t believe the government has business funding roads. Anarcho-capitalism and libertarianism are separate things for a reason.
My sophisticated wild-ass guess: Film and sheet thicknesses are often specified in mils, and PCBs are essentially fancy sheets of stuff laminated together.

My unsophisticated wild-ass guess about why they persevere: Like Fahrenheit, it so happens that mils as a scale intuitively correspond to sizes of trace we care about. A 5 mil trace is pretty run of the mill for signals. 20 mils for most IC supply traces. 3 mils is small and expensive to make (last I checked! capabilities have changed rapidly in my decade of experience)
You're kidding me, right?

> Four kinds of livelihood for householders

The entire section is describing the conduct of householders. You are confusing the four permissible means of livelihood for householders with the four stages of life.

> If you define this stage to mean materialistic wealth, then the Brahmins skip this stage.

Again, where the does the text imply that Brahmins skip a stage? This is something you've just made up.

> but only by shirking the accumulation of material wealth for religious pursuit

Again, not implied anywhere in the text and something you made up.
Lol for almost all human history working all a day was the norm.

I don’t necessarily have to do that much work, but I want to get ahead. Most people I grew up with work 40-70hrs a week, often two to three jobs.

It’s natural for me to work that much. I don’t even blink at it. What else would you do? Play video games, watch tv, “party”? I can accomplish and build things and spend the rest of the time with family and friends. It’s a good life imo
They should create some next-gen VR goggles that use HF tech to create your wildest dreams. Call it "FaceHugger".
"run its next LLM tool"

Huggingface was already using S3 storage before.
Look, I hate MV3 as much as the next guy. I've even wasted part of my life porting a large extension to it, so I might hate it MORE than the next guy. But I don't draw any security conclusions from this article.

For every permission in your manifest you need to provide the chrome web store reviewer with a written justification for why your extension needs that permission. Even the ones that don't prompt the user. And they definitely read it, and your code.

Shipping malicious extensions is almost entirely a social engineering problem and not a technical one.
Now we’re in the opposite situation where we need inflation, price inflation lower than wage inflation. Inflation that is greater than stock index growth.

Inflation that lowers the real value of debts and amassed fortunes.

Or a good old stock market and housing crash to wipe out accumulated concentrated wealth with measures to keep employment up.
We heard you like to get shot down while ballooning, so we put a … you get the idea, lol.
Ounce / fluid ounce is roughly the same as gram / milliliter. A fluid ounce of water weighs about one ounce (1.04 oz/fl oz or something), like a milliliter of water weighs about one gram (0.997 g/mL or something).

The US customary units are pretty logical, they're just not powers of 10.
Great move by AWS. Given how they work I bet that there was a document presented to Andy within a couple days of the Microsoft announcement.

Google’s complete failure continues.
If you just factor in an hour commute each way that many people have that's already 10 hours. In most professional jobs its not great to be the guy in the door at 9 and out at 5 on the dot if you want a promotion. So that 8 hours turns to 9 and add in the commute you are at 10 or 11 hours of work.
Foraging for fruit in San Francisco is a joyful activity. Me and my partner would go on fun foraging dates regularly when we lived there. Knowing which trees have ripe fruits when is a handy skill to have if you want a super yummy experience. Today we live in a rural area outside of Seattle and foraging is a lot easier, takes no skills, but is a lot more boring and not nearly as yummy.
Need advice on making an idea known
I'm no scientist or engineer. I dropped out of engineering in the first year, so I have a very basic knowledge of physics.

I have an idea (a rather simple one if I need to explain it) that could help solve droughts in some regions, and could also be used to store excess energy from solar PV panels or other forms of non-constant electrical energy production. It's not really "new" in the sense of that there is no new specialized technical process (or there might be in some parts, but I don't think I could design the technical details - though I thnk it would be based on existing processes).

How can I spread this idea in a way that many people know it and attach it to my name, or at least don't associate it to some random rich guy? How could I spread it in a way that NO ONE can patent it, take advantage of it by preventing others from using it or charging a lot of money for something that should be used for the good of many? Do I need to make a proof of concept to convince people?

Are there science/engineering forums that have lots of users where stuff like this can be discussed?
Something I’ve been pondering lately: with the release of all of these content generating language models lately, what will happen to the “scrape and train” process going forward? Aren’t we about to realize an infinite loop problem basically where the training sets will be full of ai generated content that isn’t actually useful for training?

Seems like we almost need pre-ai scraped datasets, almost like how it’s sometimes very useful to have metals that were created before the first atom bombs (I don’t know too much about this, just that there’s a definite land in the radiated sand around that timeframe).
Agreed. We're trying to show examples by default.
Who misses Netscape?
Tumblr iOS revenue increased 125% since launching parody of paid verification
A lot of tooling and tolerances still uses thousands of an inch as well, complicating the use of a metric grid.
In my experience talent will succeed in any system and lack of talent will fail regardless of the system. Engineers will never design a system that accurately detects who is doing a good job vs not. It's not in their self interest to do so at scale.
I looked around and couldn't find any examples or demo of the SVGs on the website. This is the epitome of a project that would benefit from a visual representation.
Very important due to, tradition?
Large language models will change programming a little
This sound a lot like Microsoft’s “Smart Tags” in IE6 that would linkify (non-href) text in non-Microsoft web pages to point to Microsoft-recommended websites or applications.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_tag_(Microsoft)
I had an old machinist ruler that actually did have 64ths - barely could read it haha - time to get out the calipers!

One reason these whole even numbers are used is because it's easier to inspect with basic tools - ie just fold/layer it a few times and measure the thickness - like using a rule to measure 64 sheets of 1/64" stock and hoping to get 1". The evenness is about doubling/dividing to achieve this effect.

They also had very primitive measures for bore size that worked the same - ie "gauge" for shotguns was the number of how many balls of the barrel's size added up to 1 pound of lead, so you could have a basic scale and infer everything from there.
> full hour every day

> invested in every feature

Sounds like hell to me.
All of this seems like it's adding up to a promising monetization vector for the Internet Archive.
I don't think it's usual to make that jump, but to use fractions in some contexts, and thou in others. Around a machine shop the measuring devices go by decimals, and in wood shops they use fractional measures.
They mentally convert the points to some "X days" and then beat you in the
head with it.

That's actually why I really dislike Fibonacci estimation. If we just estimated days or hours, then I could say, "Okay, this is going to take me until Wednesday," my manager would reply with, "Wednesday? It's going to take that long?" and then we could have a discussion about why it's going to take so long. Or, worst case, manager says, "quanticle, I really need this to be done by Tuesday," and I know I'm going to be staying late until it's done.

But with Fibonacci numbers, it's like, I estimate a 3, manager nods and agrees that this task is a 3, and then it turns out that when I said 3, I meant that it'd take until Wednesday, but manager thought that a 3 point task would be done by Tuesday, and now manager is mad at me, and I don't know why.

The old way sucked, but at least it sucked in an up-front and transparent way.
The thread was posted 3 hours ago when it was 5:45 AM in India.
I too thought this was about the obesity epidemic.
Case and point, view the pge outage map right now.

https://pgealerts.alerts.pge.com/outagecenter/
I wouldn’t buy an ARM desktop if the concern is TDP. You won’t see a benefit there. I would buy a desktop if you want more power at a lower cost, and you find it helps you to have one fixed place to do your work.
Well of course once you say "procedure call", people think synchronous.

For the sender, asynchronous RPC is just a convenient marshalling and return interface for the sender. It is pretty clunky for the A-RPC caller to create an illusion in the code of the RPC being "just like" a local procedure call.

For the called procedure an Async RPC can look just like a local sync procedure call, except for that whole address space thing.

I don't think that sync RPC was popular because it was easy to implement.

I think it was popular because it was easy to code to. Multi-threaded coding is easy to get wrong, and was poorly understood at the time.
Are the responses, and audio and video all generated with “AI”?
Disposable gloves are also measured in mils. When I bought a micrometer one of the first things I measured was a disposable glove and I was concerned that the measurement was really wrong. Then I searched online and found that the specified thickness is only on the finger pad area of the glove. Measuring there was dead on.
> No need to "pthread_cleanup_push" or pop those cleanup handlers. No need to figure out where pthreads could fail under cancellation points or other such obscure error conditions.

Well, I haven't needed any of these, simply because nobody cancels my threads :-)

> When a process exits, all FDs are closed, SIGHUP / SIGCHLD are sent to the awaiting processes as expected, and all sorts of well specified cleanup occurs.

By default, the subprocess just terminates. Yes, any OS resources are eventually returned, but my C++ destructors do not run. I wouldn't call this "specified cleanup". For proper cleanup you would first have to install a signal handler and figure out a way how to make the code in the main thread return gracefully. A bit similar to how we stop threads, but much more complicated and non-portable. (A better way to stop subprocesses is to send a message, assuming we have a pipe or socket.)

> So unless I have to use Threads (and I'm very well acquainted with the tools available in Thread space), I prefer using those RAII-like process cleanup functions.

And I'm perfectly fine with standard C++ RAII classes. std::ostream doesn't care whether it is created and destroyed on the main thread or some auxiliary thread.

> God forbid an exception has an exception inside of itself

What?

Also, what does this have to do with threads? Yes, programs can crash in various ways, but it does not matter in which thread this happens. If any thread crashes, the whole program crashes.
Non-paywalled link: https://huggingface.co/blog/aws-partnership
WhatsApp said to plot a newsletter play
For sure. Consumer GPU prices have fallen dramatically but they're still competitive enough; meanwhile last-gen (or later) no-output GPUs with passive cooling and single 8-pin CPU-type connectors are insanely cheap. P40s are readily available for $190, less if you lowball eBay or Facebook sellers at volume discounts.

You can even find some weird retired Cirrascale servers on eBay that provide 8 high-speed PCIe lanes through risers with Tesla-specific connectors on a motherboard with tons of RAM (and a terrible CPU) and multiple PSUs for fractions of their release cost.

It's a great time to be buying 3-5 year old ML equipment for small businesses and hobbyists. I wonder if the prices will ever go up? Not that I'm interested in speculating, but it's a small slice of the market that I'm participating in... though maybe in a year it won't be. I imagine a lot of small businesses will bring ML/DL stuff internal for at least development/testing.
15 years ago or even just 6 I would have been outraged at that idea. But reality has caught up with me (or the other way around I suppose). Despite my desire to own things and control them, the ammou t of time I have to game is usually a few games a year and only when one really piques my interest. I will play regularly for a month and then be occupied with other pursuits for a couple months or longer before picking up another game. Intense but casual is my gaming style.

So if I could treat gaming like Netflix, subscribe when there's a show I want to watch, binge and then cancel, that would be great. The only reason I don't do that is because I got a switch to game with my kids and just can't justify two gaming consile for the amount of time me and my family spend on them.
Let's not mince any words. Edge is just Chrome(ium) with Microsoft adware.
You make an interesting point. But I don’t see why the governments role to secure rights and freedoms for its citizens would change with fewer natural resources per person. Certainly the nature of rights may change as new technologies develop (do artists have the rights to AI generated art trained on their works, etc) but the principle still seem the same.
You don't need to use such as indirect an indicator as Wal*Mart. The BLS will do.

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/realer.nr0.htm

>Real average hourly earnings decreased 1.8 percent, seasonally adjusted, from January 2022 to January
2023. The change in real average hourly earnings combined with an increase of 0.3 percent in the
average workweek resulted in a 1.5-percent decrease in real average weekly earnings over this period.

People are working more and making less.
When you have to layoff people or have hard conversations or navigate politics qualities that are required are - being good looking , being popular and liked , being pleasant in conversations and demeanor. Management consultants usually come from wealthy or upper middle class families , go to elite schools and are usually good looking and have a very pleasant demeanor. So that’s why they are hired to do what leadership in a big organization cannot for fear of revolt or bad blood.
Are you seriously implying that the few 10’s of thousands of people laid off in big tech is some kind of conspiracy? Do you know how little impact that has on the nation’s overall unemployment numbers?
Tech companies have a lot of money and high valuations but nowhere near the kind of clout enjoyed by more traditional industries (oil & gas, defense, agriculture, media, banks). Most of them can (and routinely do) get away with literal murder without the public batting an eye.
It’s called gematria and it has been around the Jewish faith for, umm, a while.

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/gematria/

It is written that when a computer program is executed with just the right numerical values in its source code (according to gematria), the physical world will be fulfilled and we will move to the next level of spiritual evolution.

And that is why we require code reviews, so that “overhead, without any fuss, the stars [won’t be] going out.” Wonder why that fellow who doesn’t seem to do anything is on your code review? Now you know.
It's true. However, the orgs in question have billions of money. They can afford more than a handful of people to address these things.

Eight person startup? Sure. But not these folk who "only hire the best"
It is and sadly similar sentiment exists in the old country. I am not entirely certain why that is the case. Granted, they are always outliers and heavens know I had my share of bad teachers ( partly because it is a hard thing to do well and partly probably because, with some interesting exceptions it is not that well paid compared to non-teaching variants ). If one is to look at income alone ( again with the exception of ,say, some Chicago teachers ) and effort involved, the choice and sentiment makes sense.
The difference is that in the past automation did not have power itself. If displaced workers revolted, those factory machines would do nothing to save wealthy capitalists from the public's vengeance.

Once they have mass produced Terminator-like invincible robot cops they'll be able to do whatever they wish with us. They could give us universal income, they could also round us up and push us into the sea.
I'd be happy if DNS and NTP would just get off their butts and switch to TCP. No, DoH doesn't count.
The us vs them mentality between Agile and Waterfall that coaches often preach is itself a violation of the agile principle of people over process. You should identify what process best fits your product/customer/team, then use that process. Some products require lots of upfront requirement elicitation before you can even identify the appropriate solution-- and that's ok. Imagine prioritizing a working software in a sprint over figuring out what your customer needs.

I recently observed from the outside a project that took upwards of two years of requirement elicitation, IP contracting, complex distribution of ownership between multiple competing companies, multiple OS's, complex hardware platform design revisions to support the intended software functionality. Not a single line of code was written for two years. Was this state of the art engineering? YES. Did they operate under the principles of the agile manifesto? YES.
Also, there's a huge difference between "it works for an ML benchmark" and "it works for real life use cases". OpenAI has done a phenomenal job with instruction tuned models, enabling fine tuning for any use case very very easily, and deploying it all at decent scale.
"I do find agile to be tiresome and overbearing at times"

Then you're doing Agile, not agile.

"Can we think of a new operational model?"

Yes, agile.
This reads like satire
Xfce4.18 (GTK) has them. Has for 15+ years.

Shout out to Xfce for being so boring/consistent for more than a decade.
> Their real problem at the moment is productization

Hasn't this always been a problem at Google?

Post-Gmail, what have they successfully taken from raw tech to successful product on their own? Hangouts/Duo/Meet? Chrome? (Although that latter they leveraged marketing pretty heavily)

They've had a helluva lot more success buying successful or nascent products, then developing the hell out of them into more successful products. E.g. YouTube, Android, Docs