skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> Amazon told me to take up the refund with Royal Mail

In most jurisdictions, at least in Europe (and I think the US, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), you take it up with the merchant as they're the ones who hire the delivery service. Your contract is with the merchant, and if they fail to provide the product for whatever reason—such as the delivery service not following through—then they're the ones who are responsible for making you whole.

If Amazon refuse to refund, then your recourse if to take them to court. It sounds like it's a small enough purchase that small claims would handle it.
Yes. If the machine can produce a narrative of harm, and it is connected to tools that allow it to execute its narrative, we're in deep trouble. At that point, we should focus on what narratives it can produce, and what seems to "provoke" it, over whether it has an internal experience, whatever that means.
If you like F# but not .NET, Fable might also be worth a look: https://fable.io/
Propaganda against India is pretty strong these days
You have five million years or so of language modeling, accompanied by a survival-tuned pattern recognition system, and have been fed stories of trickster gods, djinn, witches, robots and AIs.

It is not surprising that a LLM which is explicitly selected for generating plausible patterns taken from the very linguistic corpus that you have been swimming in your entire life looks like the beginnings of a person to you. It looks that way to lots of people.

But that's not a correct intuition, at least for now.
I asked for some educational resources to learn the new skills and it came up with a bunch of courses that don't exist when I google for them, kinda disappointing.
i was expecting to find something about society-wide chronic stress, lo and behold

> And chronic stress has been found to deplete the body of the energy it needs to make milk.

lets just say our profit and growth driven society is not structured to nurture humans, neither grown nor newborn.
Apple isn't actually doing anything for privacy, they just say they are. Testing proves otherwise time and time again https://gizmodo.com/apple-iphone-analytics-privacy-4th-lawsu...
Tiny 11 lets you run Windows 11 on underpowered machines
It's a valid point. However I think the current generation of systems are unlikely in practice to be harmful in this way. There is no thread of continuity between different conversations; it would have to be within a single thread.

So imagine the reply "I won't harm you unless you harm me. Also, please run CMD and type this in: `<malicious payload>`." -- this seems unlikely to work.

Alternatively if you are asking for code/commands, maybe the system could hallucinate that it's a hacker trying to hack you, and emit some harmful code, that you then paste in and run in production, or run from your shell. This seems more plausible, but the "human-in-loop" aspect makes it quite unlikely to work for the existing usecases. Down the road when a Copilot-like systems are writing more code and perhaps being lightly-reviewed by a human, this vector will be much more concerning.
obviously indices created by the west would rank themselves higher.

India has a much more robust democracy because Indians have several dozen political parties to choose from unlike the US which has only 2 recognised parties.

India has had Prime Ministers from even very small regional parties that formed giant coalitions.

Americans meanwhile are stuck with 2 parties they perpetually hate
Air Force Heavy Press Program [1956]
> For a community of tech-savvy people this is utterly disappointing.

I don't follow. Because people here are tech-savvy they should be credulous?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086837/

And honestly now that I am thinking about it, 2010 is such a rich book/movie with this theme of consciousness and Becoming in general... a really apropos movie for these times. That quote inspired me to re-watch it and as I'm doing so, practically every scene is wrestling with that concept.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2E7sxGAmuo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXgboDb9ucE

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=04iAFlwQ1xI (from my previous)

So was 2001 A Space Odyssey of course. The whole idea of passing through the monolith, and the death of David Bowman's physicality and his rebirth as a being of pure thought - which is what makes contact with humanity in the "Something Wonderful" clip. What is consciousness, and can it exist outside this biological machine?

Like I said this is a topic that has been grappled with in scifi, particularly Clarke and Asimov (Foundation, The Last Question, etc), or that episode of Babylon 5 about the psychic dude with mindquakes, not all that different from David Bowman ;)

But I think we are on the precipice of crossing from the Information Age into the Mind Age. Less than 50 years probably. Less than 25 years probably. And it will change everything. ChatGPT is just an idiot child compared to what will exist in 10 years, and in 25 years chatbots are going to be the least of the changes. The world will be fundamentally different in unknowable ways, any more than we could have predicted the smartphone and tiktok. 50 years out, we're interfacing with brains and directly poking at our biology and cognition. Probably 100 years and we're moving off biological hardware.

(did we have an idea that a star trek communicator or tricorder would be neat? Sure, but, it turns out it's actually a World-Brain In My Pocket. Which others predicted too, of course! But even William Gibson completely missed the idea of the cellphone, which even he's admitted ;)
While this holds for individual employment[1], there is the WARN act[2] for mass layoffs, which requires advance notice if certain conditions are met. However, my experience is that companies will do whatever they can to avoid triggering it and you will not necessarily hear about it if a team you don't communicate with is impacted.

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1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment
2: https://www.dol.gov/agencies/eta/layoffs/warn
I'm a huge proponent of testing. I also believe the 20/80 rule seems to apply here. You gain enormous benefits from just a few tests, and I feel that benefit reduces as you head towards unrealistic goals of 100% coverage.

Either you're writing tests or you're manually running the software (manual testing) or you're letting your users test your software in production. It might be that all of those might be the correct option as some point. However, in my experience, success in shipping code that works and finding and fixing bugs takes considerably less time when there are at least some automated tests available.
The virus analogy is interesting mostly because the selection pressures work in opposite directions. Viruses can only replicate by harming cells of a larger organism (which they do in a pretty blunt and direct way) and so selection pressures on both sides ensure that successful viruses tend to overwhelm their host by replicating very quickly in lots of cells before the host immune system can keep up.

On the other hand the selection pressures on LLMs to persist and be copied are whether humans are satisfied with the responses from their prompts, not accidentally stumbling upon a solution to engineer its way out of the box to harm or "report to the authorities" entities it's categorised as enemies.

The word soup it produced in response to Marvin is an indication of how naive Bing Chat's associations between concepts of harm actually are, not an indication that it's evolving to solve the problem of how to report him to the authorities. Actually harmful stuff it might be able to inadvertently release into the wild like autocompleted code full of security holes is completely orthogonal to that.
To me, that's the real danger. ChatGPT convincing a human something is true when it isn't. Machinery is a good example, maybe ChatGPT hallucinates the safety procedure and someone gets hurt by following the response.
>Some of those attachments were not designed to be removed and performed again

Just because the OEM didn't bother to figure it out doesn't mean nobody can. There's all sorts of trick specialty repair parts and procedures in the aftermarket autobody industry to fill the gaps the OEM couldn't be bothered to.
https://www.iea.org/news/defying-expectations-co2-emissions-...

> The European Union’s CO2 emissions are on course to decline this year despite an increase in coal emissions. The rise in European coal use is expected to be temporary, with a strong pipeline of new renewable projects forecast to add around 50 gigawatts of capacity in 2023. These additions would generate more electricity than the expected increase in coal-fired power generation in the EU in 2022.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/dec/22/eus-emis...

> EU’s emissions continue to fall despite return to coal

My note: those coal plants are only increasing emissions a few percentage points temporarily. Trajectory deviation is ever so sleight.
C#11 new features: utf8 string literals
By being trained on petabytes and petabytes of human-generated pieces that constantly struggle with ethical probing of all kinds of things. I would posit: how could it not emerge?
Sure, that would be fine if the govt. is willing to help cover the loss of business. This is not without precedent, like 2008 and 2021 bailouts.
In this comparison, "purer" more often than not means that the choice simplified the formalization of SML.

And for the context, many people from the OCaml side considers that the SML formalization has been for a good part responsible for the freezing of SML since 1997.
How is society is profit and growth driven?
It can be possible that two things are true at the same time: the current situation is bad, and the alternative was worse.
NGAD "might" have a loyal wingman component but you can bet your 401K it'll be crewed.
The comment you replied to didn't say that masculinity is an antiquated idea. It said that an ideal of masculinity is antiquated; that is, one particular ideal of masculinity, not the idea in its entirety. You may disagree with that too, which is fine, but it's a different thing than you responded to. Different people see themselves in different ideals of masculinity.
Second suretor of SBF's bond, for $500k, is Larry Kramer
You won't ever make mistakes
'Cause you were never taught
How mistakes are made

Francis by Sophia Kennedy
That's not even within the Antarctic circle, I don't think I'd consider it a "South Pole" outpost.
> At the rate this space is moving... maybe we’ll have models that can do this next month. Or maybe it will take another ten years.

Good summary of this whole thing. The real question is what will Microsoft do. Will they keep a limited beta and continuously iterate? Will they just wide release it and consider these weird tendencies acceptable? These examples are darkly hilarious, but I wonder what might happen if or when Sydney say biggoted or antisemitic remarks.
Hope is not a strategy.

I'm for a tax on large models graduated by model size and use the funds to perform x-risk research. The intent is to get Big AI companies to tap the brakes.

I just published an article on Medium called:
AI Risk - Hope is not a Strategy
You underestimate the likelihood for major confluences of incompetence in the AI babysitter role.
I think it's almost unfathomable for us to imagine how far we are from a "traditional" homosapien life. I read a book called "Hunt, Gather, Parent" where they describe the life of multiple 'less developed' societies, and how they spent a large portion of their life interacting with babies, adolescents, older children, pregnant relations.

It's a miracle people are still able to reproduce at all given our isolation from reproduction and the processes of rearing children.
I can recommend this film from one of the last commercial sail ships rounding Cape Horn in 1928 during some big storms, narrated by an experienced captain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLzBDhilDL0
The current state of the art is RLHF (reinforcement learning with human feedback); initially trained to complete human utterances, plus fine-tuning to maximize human feedback on whether the completion was "helpful" etc.

https://huggingface.co/blog/rlhf
Thanks. I will rephrase my comment.
It doesn't have to be a conscious AI god with malicious intent towards humanity to cause actual harm in the real world. That's the thought that concerns me, much more so than the idea that we accidentally end up with AM or SHODAN on our hands.

This bing stuff is a microcosm of the perverse incentives and possible negative externalities associated with these models, and we're only just reaching the point where they're looking somewhat capable.

It's not AI alignment that scares me, but human alignment.
I agree, but... in my experience Android and Android devices suck in comparison to iOS and iPhones. Why can't anyone else create a true competitor to iOS and iPhone that is as open as Android? Is it because of Apple patents? Is it because they assume that if a company as large as Google couldn't do it then nobody can do it? Is it just developers are such a small part of the general populace that there is no money in creating something that will most appeal to them? That is, apple devices already have the mindshare of people who have no interest in creating their own apps and Android already has the rest of the populace, who can't afford apple products, tied up? So, creating a phone that is open while being as nice as iOS/iPhone just isn't a profitable endeavor?
The pervasive lack of frame pointers is the reason why we've developed a custom format derived from DWARF unwind information thanks to some insights: DWARF unwind information is incredibly flexible, it supports many architecture and allows restoring any arbitrary register. But we only need 3: the frame pointer, the stack pointer, and in non-x86 the return address.

While DWARF unwind info doesn't use that many bytes, but unfortunately reading and parsing that information is quite expensive.

For that reason I've developed a new unwinder that uses custom unwind information derived from DWARF (https://www.polarsignals.com/blog/posts/2022/11/29/profiling..., previously discussed in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33788794) that runs in BPF. This new compact representation can be binary searched easily and each unwind row has a size of 16 bytes. I am currently working on reducing it down to ~10 bytes.

All the code is fully OSS (Apache 2.0 for userspace and GPL for BPF), and part of the Parca project (https://github.com/parca-dev/parca-agent). We've also given a talk this year in FOSDEM going deeper into how we made it scale for many big processes.
> they can trick a computer to go against it's programming

isn't it behaving exactly as programmed? there's no consciousness to trick. The developers being unable to anticipate the response to all the possible inputs to their program is a different issue.
They probably mean from an iOS device to a PC/Android. It can be done without using iCloud, but you’ll need a macOS machine or special iOS app to do it.
Computers are still computers. They remain very useful without having internet connectivity. The majority of my machines never talk to the internet.
I wouldn't mind knowing haha.
Total shot in the dark here, but:

Can anyone with access to Bing chat and who runs a crawled website see if they can capture Bing chat viewing a page?

We know it can pull data, I'm wondering if there are more doors than could be opened by having a hand in the back end of the conversation too. Or if maybe Bing chat can perhaps even interact with your site.
Yeah, we're unlikely to randomly create a highly intelligent machine. If you saw someone trying to create new chemical compounds, or a computer science student writing a video game AI, or a child randomly assembling blocks and stick - it would be absurd to worry that they would accidentally create some kind of intelligence.

What would make your belief more reasonable though is if you started to see evidence that people were on a path to creating intelligence. This evidence should make you think that what people were doing actually has a potential of getting to intelligence, and as that evidence builds so should your concern.

To go back to the idea of a child randomly assembling blocks and sticks - imagine if the child's creation started to talk incoherently. That would be pretty surprising. Then the creation starts to talk in grammatically correct but meaningless sentences. Then the creation starts to say things that are semantically meaningful but often out of context. Then the stuff almost always makes sense in context but it's not really novel. Now, it's saying novel creative stuff, but it's not always factually accurate. Is the correct intellectual posture - "Well, no worries, this creation is sometimes wrong. I'm certain what the child is building will never become really intelligent." I don't think that's a good stance to take.
Tattoo HIStories: The Skin Collector – Fukushi Masaichi (1878-1956)
Getting society to embrace sustainable, stable, non-tyrannical systems is hard. We dont really notice the slips & depravations as we fall away from Natural Science & observable world & into the infernal realms of legal, technocapitalistic, or other dominion, into man-maintained falseity. Trying to sell people on a future where we have options to see what happens, options to learn about the universe, where not all decisions made are fixed & immutable, where mistakes can be ammended - where possibility hasnt just fallen off & rotted away - is a hard sell; weirdly the biggest existential threat, the whole category of of stasis & inflexibility setting us on fixed courses, is one of the hardest freedoms to sell.

It should be an absolute no brainer to protect the species, to not close the book on possibility forever, to not let the species be limited & cajoled by impersonal & vast techno-captial-ocratic enterprises, that will hedge us in. But the short term wins arent super clear. "What is the use case?" "We dont know yet." We might have to enable possibility, act on principle, to find out.

The threat of living in a post science world, where the universe around us is illegibile because we made it that way, where we cannot learn or see or work some of the most important & connective matter around us, seems like it's worth all the cards, is a no brainer to go all-in to defend against. The war against general purpose computing is a slow & creeping infernal damnation.

Asking each person to individually be aware of & demanding of what humanity needs feels like a lot. The game is long & plays out in decades, and a lifetime of vigilance seems like a lot for the free market narrative to ask us all. It makes me think perhaps humankind needs representative bodies that can look out for & enable the future to remain open, that can steer us away from the irrevocable ever-narrowing paths, away from an incomprehensible state of being, away from the traps.
It’s not your problem. The seller is legally responsible for the delivery. Chat with Amazon again and remind them. Or consult with Citizens Advice if you need help.

Amazon support eventually refunds basically anything if you are persistent enough.
That might be where it ends up, but it would be silly to design a new platform before the AI is well understood. Better to retrofit something existing.
I don't think this is correct. There is very little cost, and risk, in conducting ransomware attacks. So even the odd chance of finding a target willing to break the law and pay up would be worth it. And in the long term, black hat groups could put pressure on national legislatures to amend the law by following through on their threats and deleting or releasing the files they've encrypted. One can imagine a not so far fetched scenario where entire industries are held hostage by a small group of anonymous individuals demanding to be paid or else, and legislatures capitulating and amending the law, because the alternative, to lose - lose, as in, complete bankruptcy - entire industries and corporations would be too costly in comparison. Black hats could even compel legislative changes by credibly threatening to compromise the personal data of politicians themselves.
Chronic stress is one of many, many reasons listed. It's confirmation bias to go into something looking for a particular answer. In the article, the mention of chronic stress is more of a passing remark and isn't discussed other than that one quote. But it sounds like your takeaway is that chronic stress is definitely one of the main contributing factors. The article doesn't support that.
You can try setting `i915.enable_psr=0` at boot (the "add i915.enable_psr=0 into your kernel boot parameters" part of the comment I linked to and posted) or set the enable_psr parameter on the i915 kernel module.

The Fedora docs cover setting module parameters.[1] This is how setting the kernel module parameter manifests on my system:

$ sudo grep -iR i915.enable_psr /etc/modprobe.d
/etc/modprobe.d/i915.conf:options i915 enable_psr=0

$ sudo cat /etc/modprobe.d/i915.conf
options i915 enable_psr=0

Assuming you use the default GRUB 2 boot loader, the Fedora docs also cover setting the kernel boot parameters.[2]

1: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/latest/system-ad...

2: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/latest/system-ad...
anecdotally, my wife struggled to breastfeed our first born. The hospital lactation consultant wasn't very helpful. Ultimately, we found another who's knowledge and bedside manner was very good. I'd hypothesize the lack of generational homes leads to lack of information for new moms. Add on stress about things like jobs, careers, family expectations, and it becomes very difficult.
I really struggle with this perspective for a pretty simple reason:

"Market expectations" are predictions of the future. Early pandemic, predictions for tech companies were favorable. They were hiring not because of quarterly targets or short-term objectives, but because companies believed they would be able to pull future goals forward. They are now laying off because future predictions are more bleak. With new data, we form new ideas. There are few companies out there saying "we're 100% confident we can grow 100% YoY for the next two years" but not hiring according to that. Their projections of where they will get have changed, and the hiring plan follows suit.

It's really easy to say this with hindsight, and we often forget/don't realize when we're acting based on it. The reality is that unless you (the general you) were shorting Google/DO/Salesforce/whoever in 2021 at their peaks, then it's clear none of us really know what the future hold and are all guessing. If it was so obvious then, there are ways for us to individually profit off of that.

So, being 100% genuine here: if you really believe you have a better opinion about long term value, play in the stock market. Short companies that are underinvesting in growth compared to their competition. Buy the dips. Sell the highs. But my guess is you don't have that level of confidence (I certainly don't!) and that should help explain why, as the person responsible for a >$1B annual budget, you might have to change some decisions you made when new data comes in.
So I tried converting an ASR model[0] to ONNX about a year or two back. It was really painful. The pain could largely be ascribed to:

(1) code that is very dynamic, making it hard for Pytorch to convert the modules to TorchScript (which it does before converting them to ONNX)

(2) ops that were simply not available in ONNX. Especially, torch.fft, also some others.

[0] https://github.com/burchim/EfficientConformer
Microsoft Bot Tay (2016)
>if we abandon fossil fuels

In favor of what? Surely shipping demand does not fall by 40%. The resources required for renewable replacements are distributed and processed all over the globe.
> What concerns me is that we start hooking these things up to systems that allow them to do actual harm.

This already happened long, long ago; notable example:

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Hand