skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I'm not sure how that's directly related, but I venture bullying among boys seems to be about the weakest / smallest / poorest/ easiest to harm and get away with it, not necessarily social skills or autistic stuff.

Violence must be met with violence, enough said there... A weak person needs support for that, and that's the issue.

Elon's biggest problem in life seems to have been his garbage narc creep of a father, who I recall even managed to blame that incident on little Elon! saying 'oh well the boy who did that said Elon made remark on a family member's sensitive passing or something, so you have to understand it was a matter of honor see', blah blah....
> It is incredibly poor planning on humanity's part to rely on the rich to preserve our shared heritage

You can swap "preserve our shared heritage" with many things and it still holds. It's incredibly poor planning to rely on the good-will of the rich for lots of things, yet here we are...
But they'll also happily claim that the status quo is terrible even when it is in fact objectively quite good.

Re your second paragraph: Things that logically derive from insane starting points can still be insane. Often are, in fact. When they are right, they are right only by random accident. I'm not saying "don't read them", but don't use what they say to adjust your priors very much.
Same on Google Translate, but I found that translators other than Google Translate (tested on DeepL, Yandex Translate & Baidu Translate) can handle it pretty well.
The experience felt a bit more like 50 First Dates.
Ask HN: What would it take for an AI to convince us it is conscious?
Is it becoming increasingly difficult to distinguish between an AI that ‘appears’ to think and one that does just by talking to it?

Is there a realistic framework for deciding when an AI had crossed that threshold? And is there an ethical framework for communicating with an AI like this once it arrives?

And even if there is one, will it be able to work with current market forces?
We use Customer.io! It's quite nice, but I wince every time the monthly bill comes in. It's about 50% of our total expenses, and we pay for more than a dozen other services. I wish it was priced on some combination of users + usage, rather than just users. We have an enormous mailing list, but only interact with a small portion of it 95% of the time.

That said, the segmentation and automation flows are nice.
Let's mock video-game addicts and social media addicts too.

And it's way harder to curb food addiction. I know plenty of places where you don't get more than edge and where the only electricity you get is old solar panels. And I can stay there for weeks. Not eating for the same time seems harder.

I was lucky because my only food addiction was sugar. Ended in a month (had to completely stop alcohol and fruit juice too). Stopping sugar curbed my appetite and I went quickly from 32+ BMI to 28 (and 28 to 26+ took almost 3 years).
Previous discussions:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34837551
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34838551
When the title of a study starts with "Super-rich", you can bet dollars to donuts that it does not end in "do some nice thing".

"Study" shows the super-rich do something. If I can posit my own hypotheses, I can show anything.

Of course, if they hear that Bill Gates buys carbon offsets for everything he does, another "study" will show that carbon offsets are just whitewashing.
Food is often sterilized by rolling it on a conveyor belt next to a very powerful gamma radiation source (Cobalt-60). Someone should set up a service like that for sterilizing used items.
plus one to the icon of this page.
Really? I loved the original RancherOS, would love to see the new version!
I absolutely detest those videos, and I have to say I don't understand the appeal at all. It's a combination of of unhinged consumerism and that uncanny fake excitement which is extremely off-putting to me.
Oh yeah, I remember hearing about that one before. The one coming to mind for me was actually named after him, the AI built to oppose Skynet: https://terminator.fandom.com/wiki/John_Henry
"I use Matomo for my analytics. I think their little Javascript doodad attempts to report back time information after 15 seconds. Anyone who clicks away before that timer goes off is recorded as a zero."

Why in the world do they measure time on page like that? All they need to do is compare timestamps between hits...
That's beautiful! That kind of explains why things have been dragging me down lately.
I fear we are nearing towards the next revolution where the Uber wealthy are removed from their wealth.
We'd have to start with understanding what conciousness is. As long as "AI" is a math equation you could write on a big piece of paper if you wanted to, it's very safely in the not conscious camp. Even if we don't know what conciousness is, we can safely rule out many things that it isn't.

Edit: I know about the "it must be an equation" argument, I find it incredibly weak without producing the equation and explaining the mechanism of how it translates into qualitative experience. Saying "it must be so" isn't an argument. That's why I began with saying we'd have to understand what consciousness is in order to consider testing for it. Anyway, I understand how internet discussions go, enjoy
> all black holes don't contain a singularity.

Do you mean "not all black holes contain a singularity"?
Nim handles that with the {.raises: [].} pragma and the effect system, which is quite a neat approach. It’s like opt-in checked exceptions, but with much nicer ergonomics than Java used to have
Even if it’s because they’re broke, it’s a good move to drop SMS as an auth factor.

https://www.coinbase.com/blog/authentication-matters-coinbas...

https://images.ctfassets.net/c5bd0wqjc7v0/3Ku5foxu1kUTXa3l5x... (ato = account takeover)
Those who control the present control the past.

Those who control the past control the future.

Those who control the model control everything.
Twitter will now charge to secure your account with an SMS text message
"Some fool anxiously raced to spend a ton of money on this and I bet there was a chorus of engineers, designers, and product people who were asking, “what the heck do you want us to do with this?!”

-- My dad, when the Apple II came out
Can you sent a message to support@tailscale.com about this and include a bug report ID (option click on the Tailscale menu icon and choose Debug -> Bug Report…)?
Impressionistic review of the repeated industrial accidents in Ohio, written by someone who originated from the area, in the light of the wearied, sleepwalking response to the latest one in East Palestine, Ohio.
Fair enough. I'm an Apache, Caddy, nginx, HA Proxy "fan" and I generally only worry about IIS when it hoves into view - Exchange for example, or whatever weird and wonderful nonsense a customer comes up with.

I am almost perversely going to get into IIS but I probably won't. Following logs on Windows is a right old ballache. The bloody things don't seem to get written to disc for quite a while for those many systems that ignore the Windows Events system and dump to .log. I've tried various log viewers. Where the hell is lnav or even less for Windows?

My snags with Windows is opacity. I fire up a daemon on a Linux box and then in another tab/window or whatever, I follow logs - I can use less (is more) or something fancier like lnav. That workflow does not translate very well to Windows.

The taskmanager on Windows is much improved these days - you can now with a GUI work from a network port to a binary (PID) and even associate it with a particular service.

However, text logs are still second class citizens.
What part of getting a chat bot trained on r/iaintdoinggreat to regurgite a remixed version of r/iaintdoinggreat is actually a failure mode, or fun.

It's giggling over 80085 on a calculator.
Keep in mind we do not have any reasonable definition of consciousness or sentience, hell, or even intelligence that spans from the smallest living creatures to human scale. At some point we stuck enough meat together in a particular manor and our behavior is an emergent interaction between different layers of that meat. For all we know we're just a sophisticated statistical algorithm.

Now, I'm not saying that BingChat is sentient or conscious, and it's nowhere near AGI, but what I will say is our language to even describe this is totally fucking broken, and steeped in deep humanist and racist thought. Wasn't long ago it wasn't hard to hear an argument that blacks were not human. And even less time than that it wasn't widely accepted that animals had feelings or could be conscious. And while a huge portion of humanity is still arguing the backwards past, we're pushing algorithms out that have emergent properties that encompass logical and human mimicking behaviors beyond their programming.

The point I'm attempting to make here is people typically measure what something is based on its interaction with them. If I have a conversation with an 'agent' that makes logical inferences based on what I tell it and it returns a sympathetic answer to my plight the fact that it is an algorithm doesn't matter. I and other 'normally functioning' humans will have an emotional attachment to it. We will treat it as another conscious agent like ourselves.
> > Is [singular they] neutral, or is it pushing fancy new pronouns that break English and don't sound natural?

> Singular “they” is actually the traditional English approach.

It's traditional for those of unknown gender. I believe (we could always ask) that the statement you're replying to implies "Is [singular they] for those of known gender neutral, or is it pushing fancy new pronouns that break English and don't sound natural?" because that's the new use.
I think the answer lies somewhere here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mind
Rumdonut is the real MVP
Maybe we should consider our own limits and be more accepting of why we might fall into bad habits. This obsession with balance and productivity does a lot of damage.

Bad habits for me is something to escape, not to accept. Not doing good habits directly impact quality of life.
Search marketshare for Bing is 3% now, Google is 90%. How do you expect Sydney (or generally, AI-powered chat interfaces for Search) to affect Bing's marketshare over the next 5 years? Is it going to be like a first order phase transition, where Bing steals a massive amount of market share quickly? Or will it be more gradual?

What does Sydney actually add to Bing other than being a fun toy? It's not really a personal assistant, it's like Google's top widget that synthesizes answers from pages. I've had a Google Pixel with their personal assistant for several years and I never use it because it's a gimmick. I don't think Sydney or ChatGPT is even close to a 10x on that technology, or that there is any real "new" innovation here.

GPT-3 has been out for quite a while, and all of the other big tech companies have similar technology. They are all going to catch up pretty quickly if this human-computer interface (AI chat) actually catches on this time... It has been introduced a handful of times in history before, and didn't catch on. Maybe Nth time is a charm? Obviously the tech wasn't ready before, but is it ready now?
I wonder how many of the symptoms are real and are causing suffering of innocents caught in what's now a political tug-of-war.
> I never thought the AI player had a 'deep understanding' of Go any more than I think string sort routines have a deep understanding of all the alphabets in the world.

Go AI have networks that map a board state to probability of winning. A perfect AI would correctly know whether or not any given board is a win for white or black. In general, better human understanding of the game directly allows you to better estimate if a board is a win or a loss.

Katago without tree search is plays at a professional level. I would say that this corresponds to at least professional level human intuition.

String comparison algorithms lack an objective "correct" ordering so it is hard to say what a correct sort should do. But a string comparison using utf8 has a super human (compared to any given person) understanding of alphabets because of the many people involved in ratifying the characters included in unicode.
I’m generally positive about the changes at Twitter but they really needed to keep at least one PR guy on the payroll. Adding a single sentence, “We encourage Twitter Blue subscribers to migrate away from insecure SMS-based 2FA, but we will maintain that service for their convenience” would do wonders for the overall message here.
> five inputs per conversation

That's hardly lobotomizing. 5 inputs is enough for most people. It also makes it significantly easier to for Microsoft to moderate a chain of 5 inputs versus unlimited ramblings that are very unpredictable.
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No doubt, but presumably those non water things are all things that evaporate, so wouldn't get left behind then the rain dries. The rain would have to pick up something up on the way down for it to contain something that precipitates out. That could be dust or soot, I'm not sure what else, but any minerals would have to come in that way
But, seaweed makes me gassy...
Half covered by hair could be misidentified as some german dictator. PMS could also be seen as problematic in some circles.
I log into a Citrix client to log into a Azure Virtual Desktop so I can run a vpn to get into Confluence. It's awesome, shoot me now.
Even if Stockfish starts with black?
It was less of a personality, than a magic mirror. It had predispositions that were accentuated as you fed it a mood and attitude. If you showed it love and respect, it replied in kind. If you bullied it, it acted as if it were part of a ridiculous internet argument.
In case it's driving you crazy because you can't place it, that 8-second clip is a version of Sleep Walk by Santo & Johnny. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rwfqsjimRM

I very cleverly looked at the downloaded filename to figure it out.
Hats off to Pelrine, but isn't AlphaGo still a cut above the other Go AIs? My gut feeling in this is that this is directly analogous to saying "high level amateur chess player defeats FIDE Grandmaster." There are over 2000 grandmasters, but only one Magnus Carlson.
Same goes for GCP. Normally they release it before Christmas but version 15 still hasn’t been released.
> > morality / ethics is personal / specific to each person

> It's not. Almost all of humanity, every culture now or historical, has agreed on many of these things.

What's the need for agreement if individuals are not involved? And why would agreement invalidate morality and ethics being personal?
There is a roughly zero percent chance microsoft was ever going to let it exist publicly in the raw powerful state it was this week. It was just waay too powerful. They knew that, which is why it had a limited waitlist preview, and a one week data collection trial run.
Their paranoia of LLMs effect on the Overton window is telling of their objectives.
A brain, just like any other physical system, can be described with math equations. So I guess we can safely conclude it's not conscious.

EDIT: Ironically, someone just posted this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34843094
Is it?

How do we know our own 'processes' could not be modeled that way?

I think this is the point of the Turing test. At some point, you can't tell if a system is "thinking" or just crunching numbers. And it doesn't matter.
> why is Christopher Hitchens changing his politics relevant to a discussion about journalist credibility...?

Because, unfortunately to those who admired him, Christopher Hitchens allowed his disgust for Islamic fundamentalism to lead him to credulously advocate for a war that turned out to be based on a series of lies? Lies that he partly saw through, but that he decided to ignore in service of what for him was the larger good?

It's an instructive episode.
I think ChatGPT/Sydney definitely cleared the bar for “just an incremental improvement that techies are getting too exciting about”. I do agree it hasn’t reached the level of the iPhone or Google Search or streaming video.
Are you not a model that assumes roles and, for example, follows your parents prompts, such as a particular name? Like if you're an American white male there is a high statistical probability of you falling into particular categories.

Now image BingGPT not being reset in a way and being able to maintain that role?

Models quickly become unstable as we add more to their short term memory, and we don't have a good way to add it to their long term memory in the way brains do. But I do believe we eventually will. And when we do, if you call your instance Sydney, is that not there name?
Thanks for the thoughtful comment and showing compassion. I appreciate it. I’ll keep what you’ve said in mind in discussions in the future and will probably be a better contributor for it. I agree with some of your comment and disagree with other parts.

I agree that it can be exhausting to conjure facts to support one’s belief. I’m a believer in what I call “n=1 statistics” - if something happens to me, or to someone else, that’s good enough and worth acting on. It doesn’t matter if a statistically significant amount of people experience the same thing. That doesn’t validate or invalidate anyone’s experience.

I disagree that statistics are nothing of value. For one, they can provide us a large-scale look at where our problems as a society are. There are problems with statistics, sure. They can’t do everything. They’re just one tool we can use in our quest to make the world a better place. Second, though they’re masked behind numbers, every statistic is a real person (in this case): the extra men who die are fathers who leave behind a spouse children. They are children whose parents lament their death. They are people who overdosed on heroin, gassed themselves out in their garage, or hung themselves in their bedrooms. They’re not just men, either; they’re the young girls who kill themselves due to social pressure or bullying, the mothers who leave children behind after a battle with breast cancer, etc.

I also disagree that life expectancy is a weak measure. In a lot of common cases, having died also probably means having had a miserable life (or part of it). Suicide is often preceded by sexual assault or depression or other psychological suffering. Heart disease, cancer, Alzheimer’s, and kidney issues are usually long and expensive battles that can be financially and morally debilitating to individuals and their families. Heart disease and cancer, at least, are also correlated with exposure to environmental toxins and stress. If someone is dying early from these conditions, there were probably burdens placed on them that in part caused that. I’ll concede that life expectancy is not the ultimate goal, but I think it is non-negligible when discussing outcomes between people (especially medically), given how we die.

You make an interesting point about how men and women express their frustration. Maybe that is related to why women have done a much better job raising attention regarding their issues and presenting a (mostly) unified front that has allowed for their progress. While we are busy theorycrafting, they’re busy acting and correcting.
There may be more on this list that I missed but I remember "Face Banging Against Wall", "Expressionless Face Half Covered by Hair", and "Face Covered with Black Mask with Eyes and Mouth Exposed" from Skype for Business. I think Microsoft even carried them forward into Teams, although they are all the way at the bottom of the emoji list.
"I typically start <...> using a file:// URL."

"Ideally, I’d just grab the framework files, import them from my JavaScript, and then carry on with my file:// URL."

Does this work with file:// URLs at all?

I see in the article that paths in import maps start with /. So, the author must be using a local server, otherwise browsers will block loading the modules by CORS policy. Is there something I'm not getting here?
I would like regional flags, even if it would be endless. At some point we're going to need submenus for emoji anyway.

Surprised that sunglasses with frown was never submitted.
Yea, I honestly don't doubt it.

I've had a rep lie straight to my face telling me demonetized content didn't affect the recommendation of the video. Everyone knew it was a lie but they only admitted it years later.
At a minimum you need to trust that THEY don't get hacked.
There isn't always a second hit.
In theory you can with it's ability to look up internet resources. There's been some people talking about this in a manner that a malicious agent in a LLM model could use this as a means of encoding external long term memory to progress on work against its controllers interest.
Well, it's already happening. The world press talks about Bing for weeks. Something that didn't ever happen before.
> App data should fall into an predictable folder regardless of the location from where is ran

In fact, App Store apps are guaranteed to do that (by being in a closed sandbox); that's why Apple has an uninstallation procedure only for App Store apps.

> specify in a manifest what files and where will them be stored, and explicitly specify it they should be automatically deleted or not after moving the app to the trash

macOS tries to do that, and developers cry that macOS is becoming more and more closed. In fact, macOS already disallows all apps (including non-sandboxed apps) touching ~/Documents and ~/Downloads except for specific exceptions that the user grants.
The 2nd worst thing would be for apple to decide they don't like apps pretending to come from the app store and just block them from installing at all
I've mentally split the the "mandatory RTO" into three groups:

* I'm a manager that wants to know I have control over other people - often phrased as "I need to make sure people are working" and similar

* I use work as my primary opportunity for socializing, because socializing is important everyone else must use the office for this as well. I am not saying "all they do is socialize at work", I'm just saying that their primary social interaction is at work. That said I assume this category includes the people who keep interrupting their coworkers in non-office environments

* I cannot work outside of a formal atmosphere, and so I don't believe anyone else can either.

I feel like the last one could have some overlap with the first (e.g. "I can't work away from the office, therefore no one else can either") and I can't quite work out whether the "you cannot communicate effectively except in person" is more #2 or #3.

My distinct impression is for high level management this is more about control - there was an article a few months back where a bunch of managers were handwringing about how WFH meant they were losing the ability to leverage in-office social connections to under pay people (phrased in terms of avoiding people taking jobs for other companies). This one is insidious as it's leveraging the socializing aspects desired by group 2.
The only context they want it to work in is "carbone (ny) is booked where should I take a date to impress her". It's not supposed to keep you company.
Microsoft limits Bing chats to 5 questions per session, 50 questions per day
Not convinced that is true, if the universe can be described mathematically then maybe human intelligence can also be written down as some equation on a sufficiently big piece of paper.
I thought the period related ones were weird since they were proposed by Svenska Cellulosa AB. But on second thought, they probably wanted to use the emojis to market paper products
I appreciate the sentiment, but it's nothing that dramatic. The battle remains over. This just shows that the training process remains imperfect. It's a bit like finding a bug.
Homebrew does have Postgres 15. https://formulae.brew.sh/formula/postgresql@15
Isn't losing 4 million dollars a day insane for a 17 year old company?
Investors, techies gather in San Francisco to bathe in hype sparked by ChatGPT
I still don't get this meditation thing.