skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I'm not disagreeing, but I'm also not fully convinced. My working theory is that it's less about the gap between traits of creators vs. users, but more about the users' ability to adapt and iterate on the thing they're using.

In architecture case, people living in a building can't do all that much to adapt it or iterate on its design - but, together with their neighbors, they have much greater influence on the shape of the town or district they live in. As things are today, you can't tell architects to let the future tenants weigh in on the building plan and expect the building to actually be built - but you can get hands-off with the urban planning and let it happen organically (and AFAIK the common wisdom these days is that this is the right thing to do).

Thing is, I feel the reason for the building vs. district difference has less to do with traits, and more with the substrate. Constructing a building is expensive in terms of labor, material and expertise, and is best done in a focused manner. There's hardly anything that's malleable here at our current technology level. Conversely, the buildings are only a part of what makes a livable area, and everything else - what kind of businesses and facilities open, where they open, which space is left for verdure and which gets paved - is something that happens over time, slowly, in a distributed and feedback-controlled way.

Moving on to software: as things are right now, software is mostly built like buildings, with an extra kick that the developers are even more exploitative and abusive of their tenants. Not only software is not malleable, it's usually in an adversarial relationship with its users.

Would adding natural language to the mix help? I'm not sure. Would giving everyone a 3D printer that can print you a multi-story building from a pile of SketchUp drawings help make buildings more coherent with "the emotive, intuitive experience of a place by the people who use it"? To some extent, maybe, but I feel the limiting factor here isn't the building or the software - it's the district and the software ecosystem.

As any one of us who know how to code can attest, there's only so much you can actually do with code in practice: most of the useful and interesting things happen in the networks - the relationship graphs that, through computer systems, connect people who want something with people who can provide it - be it data, or product, or service, or experience, or impact on the physical reality. So the real limiting factor is society - the economy, the laws and the culture that constraint what any one of us can do. And before that, a software ecosystem that's increasingly locked down and hard to work with.

(All that, plus I also think that programming via natural language makes as much sense as constructing buildings from napkin sketches: it works - but only when you're providing your input to a professional programmer/architect. To make it work without a human intermediary, you'd have to create AI programmers / AI architects - this, and not natural language understanding, is the limiting factor.)
I am incredibly annoyed by slow websites. I noticed that I have started using my browser in a very asynchronous way where I open multiple tabs, do a single action, and move to the next one. When I get to my last tab, the first is hopefully ready.

For instance, on GCP, I:

0. Open 2 tabs for a 2 google cloud instance
1. For each tab, I click on the action I want. E.g Logs, deployment, and networking.
2. Then, for each tab again, I click on the nested action I want
3. Repeat step 2

It might sound like a lot, but each click easily takes 5-10 seconds, which is an excruciatingly long time if you spend a lot of day on that site -- and yes, it takes just as long doing it sequentially. Furthermore, I usually use fairly capable machines, so performance should not be an issue IMHO.

It does not happen on all sites, and I know GCP is a very complex site, but it happens often enough that it has become a habbit to me.

I love sites like Wikipedia or HN where everything is snappy.
Wow, I was going to doubt your figures, but you seem to be right:
https://energyathaas.wordpress.com/2022/08/15/how-many-u-s-h...

I've lived all around the US, and don't think I've ever lived anywhere with central air. Well, that's not quite true: in New Mexico I had a roof mounted swamp cooler, but that's evaporative cooling and not a heat pump. Elsewhere I've occasionally had and used a portable compressor unit, but rarely. I hadn't realized air conditioning was so overwhelmingly prevalent. Based on people I know and associate with, I would have guessed less than half that rate.
It reminds me of Microsoft Access in the 90s.
I refuse to give money to anything that Jimmy Wales is affiliated with. He's unethical, and I assume the same for Wikipedia.
I think types are generated via const, so that wouldn't be possible.
> Is it a safe bet?

Yeah, for web apps it's a good choice if you want simple robust maintainable code.

I mean, for quick throwaway scripts I'd go with JS (as a Bash replacement), but for web apps, Elm strikes a really good balance of features.

The language is not dead, the community mostly lives on [Elm Slack](https://elm-lang.org/community/slack) as opposed to Reddit or StackOverflow.
Sorry. I should have been clearer with that "it." The Pentagon said the F-22 was flying at 58K feet and the balloon was at 60-65,000 feet.

https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/32...

Of course, that could be a lie too!
What’s your favorite example of clearly developer-made UIs?
> it only takes about 6 minutes to bike a mile, or 8 if you go at a leisurely Dutch pace.

What's the pace in Seattle? The Dutch don't have many meaningful hills, Seattle on the other hand...
Maybe https://www.akitasoftware.com/ could help.
The over-happy sugarcoated PR is not specific to LinkedIn. The entire corporate realm is full of that crap. Entire hordes of marcom people excrete this vile Kool-Aid for mindless corporate drones to spread like happy little slaves

It's just that LinkedIn is one of the few places they can do that without being downvoted into oblivion.
the core team took a "my way or the highway" attitude, and people picked the highway. the language is still around and being actively developed but the community has largely moved on.
What coordinate system would you like the answer in? ;)
Thanks a lot, this is great info!

I had no idea about RouterOS connecting to strange IPs, I'll look into that. Can you link to some research that confirms this, why it's done, and how it can be disabled?

I do like how configurable OpenWrt is, and didn't know it was that easy to make a custom build. I'll probably give that a try the next time I have to set it up. Thanks again.
Just watched some interviews. The guys claiming to have “downloaded” an alien signal by touching the craft.

The signal was transmitted in binary and just happened to be ASCII encoded English. Odd that a ship from 8100 transmitted data in an archaic dialect of an ancient language using an ancient encoding that just happened to match the language and encoding in widespread use during this guys lifetime.

Having a hard time with this.
measurements and statistics intelligence. MASINT. is this for Europe, I could see that, but being the continental United States, there are easier ways they could've ascertain that data.
It's worth mentioning that there are many heat pump makers now using CO2 as the refrigerant versus the older environmentally harmful ones.
Jurassic Park taught me that heavy things are expensive. It stands to reason that light things must be cheap.
You can set up marxist organizations in a free country. They're perfectly legal. They just cannot force people to join, or prevent people from leaving.
Who doesn't like a 15 minute high intensity work out to get some eggs?
This is a pretty cheap way for foreign adversary to test our detection capabilities.
It's bizarre when people only move to a city AFTER it's been deemed the new "It" city - then complain about how unlivable it is. The point is to find a city you like before it gets saturated. My bet is on Chicago next.
The Wikipedia foundation is one of the most impressive non profit money laundering ops out there. The cost of running Wikipedia vs the foundations actual income is staggering. There's more than enough money and investment income available that they don't need to throw up that annoying "gib us money plz" message they do all of the time.
As reminder, Pentagon has been testing mass surveillance balloons across the US for long time. Here’s story from back in 2019, but these have been flying around much longer and would not surprise me if China got the idea from the US.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34727444
Could you spell out the "explanation"? I'm not quite picking up whatever subtext you're putting down.
As someone who has done commercial and personal work in Elm for many years, I know that lots of people are actively and productively using it with fewer issues than most other mainstream languages. Of course there are issues in any language or ecosystem

So what is HAPPENING with Elm, is people are productively using it.
not sure if FUD or not, but i distinctly remember people saying that they feared to fork the compiler because they were threatened with being banned from all the official channels and fora if they did.
There's not really any reason the Pentagon needed to state the F-22 was at 58k if that was actually new information (I haven't investigated the previously admitted service ceiling). They could have just as easily have claimed it was at 50k when it fired.

EDIT: Wikipedia claims the service ceiling of the F-22 is 65k feet anyways.
this question comes up often enough there is a site dedicated to it: https://iselmdead.info/.

for the open minded: building in elm will change the way you see software development. like the matrix red pill blue pill scene - you won’t be the same afterwards
IBM health benefits blackout leaves retirees footing the bill
Interestingly enough, although javascript gets used, the vote links don't trigger an XHR request - instead the javascript parses the vote URL from the vote button element and then a GET request is made by creating an Image object in JS.

You can see votes appear on your network tab under the image tab instead of Fetch/XHR, even though their response return type is text/html -- interesting little hack, although I'm not quite sure why it's done this way instead of fetching since it already requires JS.
But do people really underestimate how much crop land is used to grow seed? What do people think? 1%, 5%? What is the reality? I don't actually know... As a farmer I would be very surprised to discover it was as 10% or 15%! I assume it is more like 0.01%. I regularly grow 70bu/ac wheat and seed 2ish bu/ac to produce that.. the corn/rice/soybean ratio is better I think but I haven't ever considered it in detail.
I think y’all are both right and I appreciate the additional contexts. It’s just awkward to headline the article with a term that has a pinball-specific usage and not define it or dig into it a bit more.

I’m super impressed though Andy, did you use MPF or something else to program it? I’m only just dipping my toes into building my own pin, it’s quite intimidating realizing the breadth of skills required.

EDIT: another post clarified that it is on MPF - nice!
I'm trying to think of anything valuable you can learn from a balloon flyover that isn't already public domain, and I'm coming up blank. Anyone have any examples?
Maybe this is exactly the difference that makes it work.
Washington takes privacy and the presumption of innocence seriously.

You can read the relevant state law here: https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.63.170.

The cameras can't take pictures of the driver or occupants and court time is accrued when anyone other than the registered owner committed the infraction:

(f) Automated traffic safety cameras may only take pictures of the vehicle and vehicle license plate and only while an infraction is occurring. The picture must not reveal the face of the driver or of passengers in the vehicle. The primary purpose of camera placement is to take pictures of the vehicle and vehicle license plate when an infraction is occurring. Cities and counties shall consider installing cameras in a manner that minimizes the impact of camera flash on drivers.

An officer has to actually review the photos:

(g) A notice of infraction must be mailed to the registered owner of the vehicle within 14 days of the violation, or to the renter of a vehicle within 14 days of establishing the renter's name and address under subsection (3)(a) of this section. The law enforcement officer issuing the notice of infraction shall include with it a certificate or facsimile thereof, based upon inspection of photographs, microphotographs, or electronic images produced by an automated traffic safety camera, stating the facts supporting the notice of infraction. This certificate or facsimile is prima facie evidence of the facts contained in it and is admissible in a proceeding charging a violation under this chapter. The photographs, microphotographs, or electronic images evidencing the violation must be available for inspection and admission into evidence in a proceeding to adjudicate the liability for the infraction. A person receiving a notice of infraction based on evidence detected by an automated traffic safety camera may respond to the notice by mail.

So automated cameras don't scale and are only deployed where they are most needed.
Euronext says non, nein to US cloud providers services as rivals sign up
I've followed this specific issue for a while, and this is a fairly good write up of it. It could be improved by moving beyond the narrative format (albeit supplemented by a few charts) and developing a network analysis of virtual territorial conflict over time.

Jumping off points for this sort of work include:

Automated sockpuppet detection on Wikipedia: https://scholarworks.boisestate.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?arti...

Identifying paid content on Wikipedia: https://par.nsf.gov/servlets/purl/10289863

Detecting Wikipedia vandalism w/spatio-temporal analysis of revision data: https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA514680.pdf
>went off to work on other things

I heard he had a baby in recent years, is that what you meant? ;)
This is actually why the balance sheet is more important than the income statement. The income statement can obfuscate what's happening to cash flow. A close study of the balance sheet reveals whether working capital is consuming retained earnings.
It's more like a list of ideas for cars or parts of cars or colors of cars or how they could sound or . . .

If the list isn't there, someone still had the ideas. I suppose the author thinks ideas are waste, too.
English, even if unofficially, already is a second official language - at least across Europe. It's not only a lingua franca, but a common ground for all of the different nationalities working together. IMO making it official across EU would simply formalize the status quo.
What do you see as the major flaws and what do you think you would do differently?
You seem to be advocating bullying. I stand against that.
I had this reaction too, but then I heard a NPR segment where the interviewee mentioned that often times counter tip money doesn't go to the workers. So it's basically just the business asking you for more money than the posted price.

After hearing that it became easier to not leave a tip at the cash register. I think that's better for all involved than avoiding these businesses.
Ports are not really a solution for rendering code. Obvious example is internationalization API. It’s not feasible to communicate back and forth through port every time you want to format a date.

Some folks propose web components but that’s another can of worms. Increase in complexity and still no help from compiler.
No comment on the collaborationist narrative, but your comment completely ignores the very obvious fact that Poland was subdivided between said Fascist power AND the Soviet Union, a Communist superpower.
Attendance is going DOWN but revenue is exploding...
It's a matter of personal preference, and there's a lot more people who are familiar with C-style syntax. A good amount of those people also dislike Python, in fact.
What? Who are these "many"? Who is "we"? Source?
In many ways that is what we're building at Felt (where I work). We don't offer much in the way of analysis, but we make it very easy (IMO of course) to share your maps.

Here's a couple maps that I have made about the Honoulu marathon that I wouldn't have made in a more complex/time-intensive piece/powerful piece of software:
- https://felt.com/map/UNOFFICIAL-Honolulu-Marathon-2022-TCg9C...
- https://felt.com/map/UNOFFICIAL-Honolulu-Marathon-2022-Road-...
> The best example: if you want to get a mortgage to buy a house you have submit to a financial strip search. But if you want to buy a house with bags of cash, you don’t even need to give your name.

What is this an example of? You are submitting a financial strip search because the lender wants to ensure the borrower can pay the debt, not to ensure they are a criminal or not.

And that is because prior to 2008, lenders were giving out loans to people with zero underwriting, hence the cascading defaults, and then financial crisis, which led to more regulations on proper underwriting.
what would happen if you do touch it with a 20-foot pole?
I agree the videos are thoroughly debunked as being aliens, but there still are credible reports that navy/air force see craft observing them periodically. That doesn't have to be aliens for the reports to be true.

e.g. The video that got debunked as Bokeh (accurately) is still someone on that ship attempting to video a craft that they see nearby them. It's only viewers of the video who get confused and believe that the bokeh effect is what they are supposed to be seeing in the video.
I guess it depends on your point of view. For me, having Rust catch issues even when prototyping makes me enjoy prototyping more. I absolutely hate (even when prototyping) when I try to run something, it chugs along for a bit, and then hits a runtime error due to some stupid typo.

In fact I like Rust for prototyping precisely because I don't yet have tests, and the extra compiler diligence frees me to focus on the prototype.
I live in SF Bay Area 20 minutes south of SF and I don’t have and don’t need A/C, so my HVAC needs are met by a gas furnace that is 10-15 years old at this point but it still works.

Another caveat is our electricity ranges from 30 to 35 cents per KWh and is probably second to Hawaii in terms of cost.

So I do check the cost of operating a Heatpump in the winter and due to high cost of power I am sticking with our gas furnace.

If and when I go solar, I may reconsider, but for now gas is simply cheaper
Oh my, was just thinking about this phone this morning. God bless, R.I.P., never forget. So much potential, just too late to market. Hope the developing world will see it before it is too late.
> And it being open source means nothing stops you from forking it and adding your own native modules. Reason no one has done it is it's no need, and doing thinga that way would break the promises the compiler makes about no runtime bugs.

No, it's because one of the core team members made threats against everyone who said they were thinking of forking it: https://lukeplant.me.uk/blog/posts/why-im-leaving-elm/#forka...
There's probably an interesting, cautious discussion to be had about this analysis (whatever it is) but a large, open internet forum is probably incapable of having it. Still, I've replaced the title with something less baity (in keeping with the HN guidelines: "Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait").

If you comment in this thread, please make sure you're up on https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and especially this one:

"Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive."

Flames and ideological battle are not welcome—nay, not even on this topic.
We used to drink $5 suitcases of Black Label in college. So much Black Label. Black Label all the damn time. We’d also drink whiskey because who the hell can drunk on Black Label.

I always appreciated good quality English, German, Belgian, and local micro brew.

But something horrible happened. The corner store which used to have a few 500ml bottles of German beer, an Orval, and a Sam Smiths restocked into a wall of brightly colored IPAs and Seltzers.

All of these me toos are so unnecessary. If you are on the West Coast it is the annual run on Pliny the Younger. Find it on tap, enjoy it. If you miss it, just pick up a Pliny. Its the only IPA i’ll buy.

So beer should not cost double digits. Find your local deal and buy it. In San Francisco corner stores have Trumer for cheap. In Texas every HEB has Shiner.

Beer to me is better water. I don’t agonize of Citra hops. I just drink it.
What lessons might shooting some balloon from an F-22 might give you that you don't already know?
My first thought was maybe it was something like an unmanned survey drone owned by an oil company or some resident's experimental aircraft. But... The Air Force chases off manned Russian aircraft with some regularity. Maybe Russia decided to go unmanned to see how far they could push into our airspace instead of flying something like a Tupolev Tu-95 like they normally do.
I fail to see how a deflationary system favours the rich any less than a inflationary system. We seem to agree that a deflationary system favours those with money in their savings account.

You know who has lots of money in their savings accounts? Rich people!

If you want the rich to share their wealth, a deflationary currency won't help you: you need socialism, or at least some policies that leans towards it. But that's an entirely different discussion, and completely unrelated to the effects of inflation Vs deflation.
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SQL is much nicer for anything non-trivial. Pandas methods get unwieldy for complex aggregations.

Also Pandas methods are imperative so cannot be optimized. SQL is declarative so it can be optimized to the hilt and DuckDB is faster than Pandas in almost all cases, even on Pandas data frames themselves! (partly due to vectorization).
There are dozens of pockets of streets with no sidewalks that seem safe until you find that they are significant overflow routes (of which there are many given Seattle’s various traffic struggles)
If you've taken the Seattle Underground Tour, you have a notion of how much of Seattle was set on tidal mudflats. People were arguing against building an incline from the docks up to a bluff that started around 6th, which is about 8 blocks today, and I can't recall if when the sea wall was built if they went straight up or projected out into the Sound a bit farther.
The Hungarian wikipedia being overrun by ... how to say this politely? neonazis, yes, that's a polite word, I guess, is a well known fact. I am not at all surprised this happened to the English one as well.

Long ago there has been an analysis of how much better organized the "pro life" crowd was online than the "pro choice" and this is just another facet of the same: alas, it seems those on the right are playing this better.

Oh well. Everyone knows or should know Wikipedia can not be trusted or if they didn't then the Scottish Wikipedia scandal should have taught them this.
I wonder how much computer source code has to do with this result. Even if we were to include HTML in that, given factors like the copy-paste propagation of web design & front end knowledge. And considering how many careers were made this way.

Sure, there are languages in different languages. But also, not as much as one might have expected.