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Remove the first 3 sentences and the last, and your post will be in line with the guidelines [1] and you shouldn't get downvoted. You still make a number of claims I don't see evidence for, including some that you can't possibly back up.

The most egregious to me is that you say most of these companies are run by 60 year old men (not that it matters, but are they?) with good intentions (and this matters, do they?). Have you really interviewed a representative sample of them and determined this? I'm more than willing to give the benefit of the doubt, but these are the same people that make sure movies don't actually earn a profit, so profit-sharing clauses of contracts don't kick in, right?

OK, so maybe they do have good intentions, but only for the people that work for them. Regardless of their intentions, they do not have the right to continue trying to abridge the rights of every American.

Also, have you thought that there might be a better system out there, that creates more value, with less waste, and better compensates those involves? Does a better job of finding and rewarding talent?[2] Have you thought that maybe it's impossible to get to that system through gradual changes, maintaining equilibrium? Maybe disruption is needed?

[1] http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[2] To me, channel101.com and the Dr Horrible Sing-Along Blog are examples of how we don't need Hollywood as it exists today
True, but he's controls whether its removed or not so it's best to give a more persuasive reason.
true.I have been using it since it was launched. since then loving it.

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"Peak" in popularity or in terms of return on expenditure?

With cost reduction of special effects, I agree that the playing field will gradually level...

...but to contradict myself a bit, perhaps it won't ever level because new technologies will continue to be introduced to improve the entertainment experience that are proprietary and therefore expensive.
How would this be pushing the boundaries?

Putting the format in the URL itself is much easier than having to fiddle with HTTP headers. Not to mention the ability to view API data directly within the browser is a major advantage in discoverability.
Thanks for the recommendation. I'll definitely bear it in mind for future installs, but since I put the effort into configuring vlock well, I'd like to live with it for a while more. I'd actually already read that thread when configuring vlock on my current box, and I do chvt $(cat /tmp/console.pm) on resume. It's robust when configured well, but I can see the value in a locker that requires less configuration time.
The line is blurring.

Zynga and Hollywood are much closer in terms of their provision of value to consumers than ebay and hollywood.

What I'm trying to say is, that VCs are getting closer to cannibalizing the entertainment investment business, online and iOS gaming is a good gateway drug.
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True. One of the calculus courses at my college is a weeder class. I have met so many people who gave up on their dreams of being scientists and engineers because they couldn't handle the intensity of the course. I was among the majority that didn't pass the class. I admit I'm not the brightest math student, but I truly enjoy learning about Computer Science so I'm gonna power through those classes for as long as it takes. I'll be retaking the class again this upcoming semester.

The article has a point, the quantity of homework assigned in technical classes is insane. People burn out. Some people put in the hours, yet pull off mediocre grades at best. Its highly discouraging and destroys peoples egos. My friends attending Top 5 engineering universities are simply broken on the inside. Doing homework for 10+ hours a day, every day, as long as you can handle it, just to earn a shitty GPA barely above 3.0. Luckily they're all stubborn enough to continue pursuing their goals.
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You pretty much nailed it. YC don't understand entertainment, just like the entertainment industry refuse to understand web technology. Transformers is really an edge case, many hollywood films can be made for half of that[1]. Not your typical YC type of investment, but still doable by tech industry, after all we have tech startups like color getting 40 million for an app. The question is will the Tech industry be willing to make investment in an industry it really does not understand. Contrary to some misconception being a great entertainer does require some kind of discipline and experience like being hacker. It takes time, many entertainers start young and spend many hours working on their craft, just like hackers. The stereotypical drugs and alcohol abuse come after. Hollywood type talent is not something you can just whip up. An interesting note, Mark Susters is a tech VC investing in entertainment[2] to disrupt the market. But Mark is working on the low end of the scale, with very low budget productions (compared to hollywood) and average actors and directors. This too is not enough. If YC is seriously going to attempt to kill Hollywood it's going to have to take on risk it never did before. The entertainment crowd is much different from the tech crowd.

[1]
The average cost as of 2008 is 106.6 million
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/mar/06/business/fi-boxoffic...
in 2009 MPAA, the organization compiling and reporting the figures stopped.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2009/0...

[2]
http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2011/11/03/the-future-of-...
In his presentation Mark Suster made some correct but to obvious observation, what I disagree is his take on talent, namely he thinks the cost of talent is going up. He's not completely wrong, in that the cost of mediocre talent has gone done, but talent that people want to see, the talent that can sell tickets and drive views, their pay is going up.
> Marx also believed that no capitalist country would ever, say, abolish child labor, institute universal education, and create universal health care.

Could you provide some reference to support that, please?
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First Mr. 278 Karma I think my 7000+ karma has earned me the right to call pg an ass when he's making an ass out of himself guidelines be damned.

Second, plenty of people are wrong every day. That doesn't mean they and their industry deserve to be destroyed. it means you TALK TO THEM. Try to convince them of the error or their ways. That's why Steve Jobs formed a friendship with Rupert Murdoch. Not because they're such kindred spirits.

AND IT WORKED. Look at what Steve Jobs accomplished by NOT trying to destroy the industry.
This article makes a good case for capitalism and private property. But using this article (or this line of thought) to justify unregulated free market is just as dangerous as pure communism.

Free market soon gets distorted to ugly oligarchic, one where (extending the farmer analogy) the more a farmer grows, the more he's entitled to from the common pool (besides his own earning). And that is current course of free market. Consider this like an unstable equilibrium. At the top of inverted-U curve, natural tendency of a point is to escape the stability, and it does not correct itself.

The correction can happen either incrementally by a healthy regulatory body, like government, or by a more drastic measure when things go really off the rails and an upheaval/revolution restores the system back to the unstable equilibrium.

This represents the economic balance of the system and, since, money is directly proportional to power, political entities go through the same motion too. Hard to get the causality right (political to economic or the other way round), but that is the state of human society since times immemorial.
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Killing the industry is not same as making all those people job less. It's just the equivalent of killing their business model. The artists and others who you are vigorously defending will just find creative work with the new companies (I don't see programmers suddenly becoming actors and directors). And frankly the way most of the artists get screwed by big studios, we would be doing them a favor by providing alternatives.
You've never heard of 'soccer is the great equalizer' as a phrase?

And drafts are actually very tightly regulated. It's essentially the only entry point in both leagues. Not so with soccer.
> When you see HFCS on the label, you know there is a really good chance you are dealing with an engineered food.

In an otherwise good post, I have to respond to this.

Every plant you eat is engineered. They're all, or almost all, the result of genetic modification in the form of selective breeding, often to the point the result would not survive but for constant human intervention.

In a larger sense, all prepared food is engineered, often with complex chemical reactions going on as it is being prepared. Baking in particular is an exact science, and quite distinct from cooking, due to the chemistry required to make everything come out right.

So 'engineered' isn't bad; 'badly engineered' (or, at least, 'engineered in unhealthy ways') is bad, and then list the ways it is bad. Don't just wave 'engineered' and 'unnatural' around as slurs. Food is too important for that.
We have tech, cost of tech is going down. But you still need talent to operate the tech, and the best talent are not cheap. The workers have unions and the ones that are not part of union do this full time and want to support at the very least a middle class lifestyle. For a hollywood movie, you don't want to use just any crew. You want the best film crew, the best makeup, wardrobe, casting, post & pre production. All the above cost money, lots of money.
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I'm sorry but you're wrong. Because serfdom was largely destroyed by the death of feudalism. Feudalism died largely because it couldn't compete with societies that were adopting open trade policies around the ideas of Smith's Wealth of Nations.

That's important. Because the Wealth of Nations was an alternate philosophy. It was a way that everyone's life got better.

You're looking to tear down something without suggesting something else to take its place. In fact if you succeed what you'll have done is to shift more wealth to people who are already wealthy (by societies standards). You will have destroyed a system paying thousands of people $30,000 in favor of a startup that pays hundreds of people $150,000 a year.

But all of that isn't my point. My point is you're acting out of hate. My point is you shouldn't encourage people to create things in order to destroy other things because it's unnecessary. If what you're creating is better the bad thing will go away all on its own. There's no point to add more hate to the world.

I know record executives. I know executives at movie studios. And guess what, they're good guys. Not everyone in that profession is a good guy. But many are and for you to group them all into a "mean people who need to be destroyed" is wrong (and, if I may again say so, ass-like)
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This is true for some music genres, but not all. Same way you can just press record on your camera phone, you are unlikely to film the next blockbuster on that.

Commercial quality polish (generally) takes expensive engineers and expensive equipment, and a lot of time, and this is true of most multimedia fields, with exception of Indy sub genres.
Do you think Steve Jobs also had bad intentions? If not why did he regularly meet with Murdoch on social occasions? Why did they have a friendly relationship? I could see Jobs biting his tongue to get business done but you don't have to discuss political issues on a social level if you think they're evil
Let's kill one of the few remaining private industries where we're still the best in the world?!

How about "let's build the next Hollywood" instead?
That's all true for now. But eventually you'll be able to throw some actors in front of a green screen and do everything--makeup, wardrobe, special effects in post production, with one guy.

Hell, when computers can generate photo real actors, actors will just be people in mocap suits (except that we won't need mocap suits by then), and they won't even need to be attractive. Eventually one person will be able to create the equivalent of a Hollywood blockbuster.
A $1000 recording won't give you great sound quality, not 24/96 K. It easy to marginalize a recording engineer until you try to record an album yourself. To get the the sound you want there are number of things you want to get right, the right equipment, the right space, mic placement, recording levels. Still not as expensive or hard as making movie, but not so easy either.
But they aren't wasting resources. They're producing media that's consumed by millions and millions of people. pg's argument is you should try to kill them off even though they haven't proven their obsolescence. My argument is they haven't proven their obsolescence because there are good people in the studios (as well as bad people). So you shouldn't make everyone working in hollywood a blanket target.

I have no problem with YCombinator funding entertainment startups. More power to them. But you can do that without spreading hatred.
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OP's method would be helpful when the line differs syntactically prior to the hostname e.g. different options, arguments, a pipe into it. Though that case is rare in my own usage.
I think you're playing a semantic game now.

Also, you define resourcefulness in a way that ignores the necessary domain knowledge. Without sufficient domain knowledge, an otherwise 'resourceful' person cannot appear as such.
I am a wandering hacker, as you describe. Many years ago I joined the Air National Guard (part time -- one weekend a month, two weeks a year). They offer a very good health insurance program for less than $60/month. You read that right! It's pretty unbelievable, and is one of the reasons I stay in. It is subsidized by the taxpayer, of course, so I really do thank all of you. Some people say that not many doctors accept the plan (called Tricare), but I live near a university hospital, and I've had no trouble at all with them taking it. Physical therapists took it, too. The cost for a family is around $250/month, and the dental plan is $12/month.

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I was thinking DVD distribution at the time. I had used Netflix for a while by that point and could imagine subscribing to get a DVD in the mail from Joss Whedon every week.
games used to cost a lot of money and used to be hard. now they cost nothing to make except your time, and you can do it in your garage.

let people have the opportunity to access the distribution channel, and they will figure the other problems out.

people in this community seem to think that they're the ones that are going to solve all the problems in an industry to move it forward.

colleges have access to expensive equipment - if students have access to quality distribution channels, they'll take time to produce high quality content.

my first company made software and hardware; we started in my dorm, used electronic equipment (scopes and power supplies and stuff), and build a product and company that made money. if I can do it with technology, someone else can do it with cameras, recording equipment.

music has itunes, software has app stores, artists/painters have the web, online retail has warehouses without floorspace (and in some cases, not even warehouses). there is absolutely no reason movies don't fit into the equation.
Whatever gave you the idea that 7000+ karma entitles you to anything on HN?
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Do you disagree with his premise that the hollywood system's support of unionized highly skilled manual labor is beneficial to up and coming content creators? I believe it could be argued that the studios do not do this intentionally (indeed,they'll happily send tv production to canada or anywhere that they can find cheaper labor and more tax breaks). But when you say kill Hollywood, what do you mean exactly? Disrupt the distribution channels? Disrupt the production channels? The marketing? The film industry is not nearly as grotesquely inefficient as the record industry was.
Everyone says "most of the artists get screwed by studios" but it generally isn't true and you know this because artists tend to start studios when they get money and those studios always end up acting in the same way as existing studios did. Because, as I said in my post, Hollywood has reached an equilibrium over time. It is the textbook definition of "a bad system except for all the rest".

As for them finding new jobs I have no problem with YCombinator funding a startup that tries to distribute content more equitably (or anything like that). But saying "lets kill that industry" implies tearing down something and that has proven disastrous throughout history.

Look at all the countries the western world has invaded only to make things worse. Iran is probably the biggest problem the world faces right now and that regime was born out of the western world installing the Shah (which in turn made the declining extreme religious community into an oppressed minority who eventually retook power)
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I think what we need to work on is improving the political clout of engineers, not destroying hollywood. We've won this one (I hope) but it took rather extreme measures. Blacking out wikipedia isn't something which can be done every time congress threatens to do something stupid. It's a bit like going on strike - a negative act which can turn people against us if overused. We need mechanisms which can influence politics on a day-to-day level, so we don't need to do these last-ditch operations.

Nevertheless, defeating SOPA is hugely significant, because it shows that we CAN be politically effective. Politics can operate as a kind of nonviolent intimidation: if our opponents have the reputation of being politically effective, and our group has the reputation of being politically ineffective, individuals think it's not worth their time trying to influence politics.

Take software patents. Whenever this comes up, there are always gloomy posts saying that we will never defeat the patent lobby. This perception deters everyone from trying to.

EFF does a good job. But I think more of us need to be active as individuals, on a day to day basis rather than just when the trumpet sounds like this. Suppose there was a website where you could sign a pledge which said: "I will spend 1/2 hour a week working against internet censorship". and then provided stack-overflow-like facilities whereby activists could suggest useful actions and vote on which are the best; and collect data on which arguments seemed most effective. Not only would this make us more effective, it would declare that we were a force to be reckoned with.

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Can we kill the pharmaceutical industry next? Those patents have got to go!
Maybe there needs to be something like YCombinator for making movies, instead of start-ups.

Seed the scripts and the initial team, and then get other investors to invest a few hundred thousand or a few millions in the movie.

Also think about how to best distribute those movies - maybe a special site that shows all these movies, or a partnership with ThePirateBay to promote the movies.

A news/information site about these new upcoming movies and about the teams - kind of like TechCruch, would help, too.
I interpreted it more as "Let's kill off the Hollywood way of doing things."
Point count is the equivalent of contribution. It means you perhaps said something that opened someone else's eyes or led the conversation in a positive direction.

Guidelines are to prevent people who don't contribute valuable ideas (e.g. trolls) from bringing the conversation down.

So, if someone has proven them self not to be a troll, I think they're entitled to lose their temper every once in a while provided they don't cause too much damage
Sorry. I appreciated it when it was pointed out to me for the first time, but I shouldn't have assumed.
Companies working in a space like twitch.tv will eventually kill Hollywood.
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While I think the author's heart is in the right place, I think he's fallen into the trap that nearly everyone in the music startup industry has fallen into: the content and distribution are the easy parts, getting people to give a damn is the hard part.

Go to any little venue in NYC and you'll find a dozen talented musicians, many of them with very well produced albums already; the talent is there, the production is cheap as hell these days, it's simple. So you start an online label, you aggregate this content, you make it available in various forms for various prices (including free) and you have... nothing. Content is worthless without eyes and ears.

The hard part in all this is getting it in front of users, and getting them to care about the music. The major labels are fantastic at this: they get radio stations (which they control) to hype them up; they run ads all over the place; they put on massive tours and make the consumers a 'part of the music'. How are you going to compete with this? If you can answer that question, you win; nothing else matters.
But Hollywood funds artists. My issue with pg's post is it's a clarion call to kill an industry without considering what that industry does and who that industry supports.

If someone can think up a better system I'm all for it. There's no shortage of startups creating media for online dissemination. But as of right now none of them manage to support artists like the traditional system.

So I don't disagree with you. If there's a better system then let it take hold and let the current media companies burn. But pg should be encouraging people to build a better system not focusing them on tearing down the current one.