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We actually treated this as an opportunity - we invented our own animation style geared towards quickly and cheaply producing large amounts of rich, life-like animation. Here's a sample:

http://vimeo.com/27841597

Rather than try and create something realistic, we opted to go with something stylized and life-like - pseudo-rotoscoped silhouettes. Yeah, it's a bit jarring, but we're trying to twist that to feel like a stylistic choice. And silhouettes are waaay simpler to capture, are easy to reuse, and let us massively simplify the lighting and perspective issues of traditional green screen work.

It's painful slogging through it - we're basically inventing everything we need. And because this is content heavy, it's cost is more daunting then a traditional web startup. BUT, by tackling the animation problem head-on we're hoping to move forward in a way most startups can't.
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What Hollywood gives artists is a great vehicle.

True, but you have to ask why it's such a great vehicle. And the reason is that Hollywood uses marketing to ensure that millions of people all watch the same movie. This audience doesn't come out of nowhere---it represents at least in part the potential audience for other, less rabidly-marketed films. That 'great vehicle' is running over other artists. We create a handful of multi-millionaires at the expense of providing a living wage to thousands of others. Our copyright law doesn't incentivize artists, or even distribution anymore---it subsidizes a marketing machine.
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Let's discuss Hollywood's value proposition, and beat it
I think the key to killing Hollywood is to find out what kind of value they are bringing to the table. We should use this thread to really analyze Hollywood, and then brain storm some ideas that can create more values than what Hollywood is already offering.

Maybe this thread will turn on some lightbulbs in the community and convince some entrepreneurs to pursuit the idea.
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there is plenty of independent movies, the trouble is getting it into cinemas.
At my startup, we have talked about this issue several times about how we can fairly compensate employees for their contributions to the company. Our company is a bit different in that we have a lot of young employees who are eager to learn and believe in the vision rather than people who maximizes reward and minimizes risk. Because of our employee makeup, we're adopting a revenue sharing plan. In my eyes, that's as fair as you can get: getting a ton of experience with the latest technologies for a temporary cut in pay. As a lot of commenters have said, it really depends on your situation, but I believe the reward is potentially great if you're a young engineer who's seeking a long-term reputation as a good programmer.

(And for those of you who think I am mad, my company is great in that it's fun, the work is extremely challenging yet exciting, and the vision aligns with my own personal vision. It's my dream job.)
Yeah, this would be like a 3d version of xtranormal. Being able to get voice work done by actors over the Internet or use text to speech, too. Maybe you could do chroma key work at home or in local studios too, and progressively upgrade production values over time if a given show or series works out well.
Definitely. Either fix financing or join in. The reason why Hollywood is so powerful is because they actually donate to campaigns and have lobbyists.

That seems far more productive than trying to destroy an industry because you're tired of their political power.
Apple cares because the publishers care. Apple realizes that the customers (the students) are locked in to the schools, which are in turn locked in to the publishers, which are now locked in to Apple.
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I have posted a rejoinder on Ben Parr's rants at my blog http://manku.thimma.org/2012/01/in-defence-of-y-combinators-...

Essentially I believe the time is ripe for disruption to happen at Hollywood.
The idea that there need to exist "weeder classes" is utterly stupid. The admissions process is the "weeder" process. If you can't hack it, you shouldn't be admitted at all.

Taking students, who you have already identified as competent and likely to succeed by admitting them, then trying to get rid of a huge percentage of them with an arbitrarily-difficult course, is just stupid.

The mindset of "we have to clean out the riff-raff" in engineering is why so many people drop out, not that people are unqualified, it's that irrelevant, difficult material is the first thing you encounter, and you learn it then immediately discard it when you move on to material that's even tangentially related to what you will do every day as an engineer.
Is it just that? It doesn't look like it. Does it serve as an advertisement for his work? Yes, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Movies like Primer are just the beginning, and a Y-combinator for movies/tv could push the change even quicker. I'm thinking of a forum of 1000 movie/tv enthusiasts putting up maybe $100 each and funding 5-10 creators or maybe one larger project, holding open talent calls online.
"This whole post is a red herring."

I don't understand how you can say that. What is this "red herring" truly hiding? Jonathan Coulton has always been outspoken about piracy in this regard.

Your comparison of piracy to breaking and entering is really outlandish.
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You should be able to file a copyright complaint with Apple: http://www.apple.com/legal/contact/
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In general, yes I would say the same thing. I am certain a German article on the economic situation in Greece is going to be quite different to an article in a Greek newspaper.

My intent wasn't to attack Americans or American media so much as to outline an example as to how Rupert Murdoch (and others) uses the media for his own gain. This is by no means limited to the US. He has a multinational media network.

People like Kim Jong-un also write propaganda but are limited by the reach of their media network.

My apologies if I offended any anyone, this was certainly not my intent.
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Or how about a way to fix the congress and the election process? A startup to provide information on the promises kept/broken, campaign financing, how much someone is influenced by lobbyists etc, so that only people who can be trusted get to vote on these issues. I think having politicians who can be trusted, who are informed, is more important. The recent blackouts swayed so many of them, but we can't do this every time. Some dashboard kind of thing, to let them know what their constituents want would be very useful for them, since I'm afraid they dont read opinion polls...
scheme/lisp was choose by Sussman and Abelson because it does not get in the way to explain SICP.

Python can be a problem and get in the way; scheme was beautiful because it's so simple that all that rest to understand is the really big ideas described in SICP.
One difference I would point out - every film an indie production co makes is equivalent to a new start-up, i.e. every film is its own business. And these aren't businesses that scale well. Or at all. Therefore, film producers are essentially serial entrepreneurs ... but by no means will a successful indie film grant the same kind of ROI that a successful tech startup would, e.g. Twitter or Dropbox.
For as long as I've been following his blog, he's used it to talk about things he wants to talk about. If he's touring, he'll likely post about touring. Lately he's been organizing a cruise, and he's been talking about that. He also just released an album -- I don't think it's unfair that he post about that on his blog.

I have seen examples of people attempting to "cash-in" on the SOPA outcry, but I do not believe Jonathan Coulton is one of those people.
The main point is not to kill Hollywood but to force them to compete and evolve.

Hollywood sell entertainment services that demand the time of people.

The ultimate goal of winning would be to compete and win the time of people. E.g. Newspaper industry is dying because the Internet won the time of people.
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> I figure the only way to make it possible is through the ability to pick & choose members, and exile members.

Then you have a dictatorial state socialism, also known as Stalinism, Maoism, and the Khmer Rouge. It's been done.
There's no reason you can't mix the two, though. At my startup, we're building narrative driven games (like the old-school graphic adventures), reworked to feel more TV-like. So we're really trying to be careful about the whole passive vs active issue.

Our take is - let the viewer be as passive as they want. We're making a narrative-heavy experience, just like films and TV. But we're adding an interactive twist so the viewer can change how the story unfolds. And there's no reason we can't let the viewer just hit play and watch the story unfold as-is. We encourage them to jump in, of course, but that's it - otherwise, the story goes along it's glide path till the end of the episode. And when they're done, maybe they'd like to watch it again, but make a decision part way in to see how it effects the story.

A more mainstream example would be some on Nintendo's most recent work. They've done a great job embracing the casual audience, and really pushed it in the most recent Super Mario Bros for the Wii - it actually included the ability for the game to play itself when players get stuck:

http://wii.ign.com/articles/994/994640p1.html

Passive vs Active is tricky balancing act, and we're probably going to need to iterate on this a few times before we get it just right. But we definitely think the balance can be struck in a way that'll resound with a casual audience more apt at consuming TV then video games.
> Early startup employees get completely and utterly screwed.

I think there's some after the fact reasoning here: Of course, if you look only at the startups that make it far enough to hire those first employees then risk/reward is much better for founders. But then you have discarded from your sample set all the startups that fail before getting access to the cash needed to hire (revenue or investment). At least where I'm coming from that's the more common case by far, and in that case founders get utterly, royally screwed.
I mentioned games explicitly in the RFS.
I have my vimrc on github as well. It gets the job done for me. Keep in mind I'm far more of a sysadmin than a programmer.

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I have witness a similar case where one Apple dev rip off another developer by repacking and then resubmit the same app. He submit a request to Apple and then a few days later that clone app got pulled.
Marx also believed that no capitalist country would ever, say, abolish child labor, institute universal education, and create universal health care.

He further believed that a government can 'wither away'.

Marx has been proven wrong in ways that have nothing to do with how well Communism/Socialism works as a system.
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"Make good stuff, then make it easy for people to buy it. There’s your anti-piracy plan. The big content companies are TERRIBLE at doing both of these things, so it’s no wonder they’re not doing so well in the current environment."

Beautiful.
It may not be necessary to compete as directly as that.

Filesharing sites compete against Hollywood in a different way (even though it's illegal) and they manage to grab their attention. What we need is something to give us the same amount of leverage.
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It sounds like you're pushing for for the webseries model.

There's some great work going on there - the big difficulty isn't the producing or financing, though. I'm part of the Seattle webseries community, and the big difficulty I keep seeing is - how do you get your series in front of people?

So in a sense - I think marketing is the killer if you're going to compete head-to-head with Hollywood.
Haha I like "it just reminded us of the new album or movie we wanted to download when we got back to our room".
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It depends on the game. The e-sports community is making headways, with things such as the "starcraft bars" and stuff. It's not the same, but there is effort being made in the field.
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OnLive does a great job of this, too. Since the entire system is built around streaming out media, They get this pretty much for free. And they've done a good job of embracing it, too. I know a number of gamers that "veg" by watching other games playing on OnLive.
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http://books.google.com/books?id=IU7U7hDpr5cC&lpg=PR7...

I highly recommend this excerpt as food for thought, bottom of page 4 - page 5:

"Political candidates' campaign discourse provides more information about issues than print or electronic news media. There are several explanation for this finding. First, news reporting tends to concentrate on the 'horse race' aspects of the campaign: Who is ahead in the polls? Who is running the campaign? Which states are being contested by the campaigns? Will the candidates attack one another? Who will be included in the presidential debates? The answers to these questions may be news, but they simply do not help voters decide which candidate should be elected president...

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To make matters worse, there may be a trend toward less and less coverage. The length of a typical political news story decreased by about 20 percent and the number of political news stories dropped by 20 percent from 1968 to 1988...average nightly news coverage of the campaign in 1996 was 12.3 minutes, down from 24.6 minutes in 1992...Furthermore, the news media have a tendency to offer short sound bites from candidates instead of thoughtful and extended consideration of issues...in 1968, the average quotation from candidates in the news was 43 seconds long. After 20 years, candidate quotations had shrunk to a mere 9 seconds...this figure had dropped to 8.2 seconds in 1996."
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You keep talking about money. If your strategy for beating a guy who has 1 billion dollars is to make sure you have 1 billion and one dollars, you are doing it wrong.
What's so hard about using a decorator? You still get the magic, it's just explicit.

Just one possibility: http://code.activestate.com/recipes/474088/
>Because only a small percentage of Megaupload.com users pay for their use of the systems, Mega Conspiracy's business strategy for advertising requires maximizing the number of online downloads (i.e., distributions of content), which is also inconsistent with the concept of private storage.

Except bandwidth costs money. Was MegaUpload really able to recoup the bandwidth costs of a full-length movie with ads?
You stole HN's design? Doesn't seem like the way to start on the right foot.
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Sad and naive.

One day art was about a meaning, and works of art carried a message. That used to be true about movies, and it sometimes still is, though rarely so in Hollywood.

Now people mix art with entertainment in its lowest form.

To me the range looks like: Classic, deep, inspiring, thought-provoking stories on one end; and shallow and worthless entertainment on the other. Sorry, somehow I'm not trading movies for Farmville, even though it's huge, social, addictive and so on.
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What I do like about this:

* Cool shit like listening to Spotify with someone, and the time syncs up with them (supposedly)

What I dislike:

* Most of the time when I click on a friends linked news article it asks me to read it through the websites Social Reader Facebook App... I'm looking at you Washington Post.
Pro tip: If you are in an industry like Megaupload's, avoid the word "Conspiracy" as part of your official company name.

It makes it that much easier for a prosector to convince the jury of a conspiracy...by Mega Conspiracy.
It's important to remember you can do both at the same time. Work hard towards financial reform, but in the mean time flex your financial muscles to get there otherwise you will be defenseless and the reform you seek will never happen.
Name a period in history when the most powerful society was not also the most technologically advanced.
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Yeah, there are a ton of non sequiturs in there and other ostensibly reasonable decisions they've cast into a bad light. And then there are all the emails which, if real, are pretty damning.

I guess they're trying to be thorough or something, but probably 2/3rds of the indictment is pointless and the real complaints are hidden by a lot of insinuations that sound ridiculous.
I actually recently read somewhere that about 6 films at Sundance Film Festival this year were funded on Kickstarter.
Did you just make it really hard for YC companies to get deals with movie & music studios?
You have to ponder the inefficiencies of an ecosystem that supports a $200 million movie.

I'm reminded of Firefly. Such a great show, with lots of loyal fans. I guess it just wasn't a big enough fan base for Fox. I thought at the time that the producers should go independent and distribute straight to the consumer. Maybe that was too risky in 2002. I don't think it would be today.
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> Forbes

> Average Joe

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The RIAA maybe.

Artists need initial help to rid of the startup fears which sends them in the arms of the enslaving RIAA.

Create an open pool of "service providers" that abide by an open contractual agreement securing musical talent with supporting talent.

Name it OpenRecordingAlliance.net or something more friendly.

Credentialed designers, developers, accountants, advertising skill bands together to create a supporting nucleus for aspiring artists. Affinity, past experience, geography are the free coalescing agents.

Artists post their intent, biography and whatever rules require. This in formation is visible to registered users which sign up to help. A minimum number of supporting skills will be required to secure success.

The artist will mind the guitar, voice or whatever gift may be. Within a given time, legal paperwork is completed, a website, recordings, accounting, trade marks etc. Timelines and rules are set by the OPA.NET governing body.

Contractual agreement expires within few months. Ensuing success is shared, credits given. The team may continue to work together with renewed contract as each party agrees.

Details of the agreement and its scope are of course, key to the success of this idea. I believe that given such a platform, many artists, designers, web developers would gladly work together to succeed. All activity remains public and auditable during this process.

The artist only maintains copyright.

We open source the music. As it used to be.
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