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> "attract illegal immigrants - it's better than wherever they came from"

I am not a US citizen, all I know about US is from TV, Movies and the web. But this is not a proof that US is a great place to live in. It just means that the neighbouring countries have far worse living conditions. I harder test would be if the more fortunate, richer class of people who are already comfortable with their living standards in their respective countries, choose to move to US because they cannot add to their level of satisfaction otherwise.
Note that the US government has already illegally seized domains like Dajaz1.com, and hasn't given the owners a chance to defend themselves in court. Source: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/12/expert-domai... . Note the Dajaz1.com example; the government used an emergency seizure which is supposed to be used to prevent people from destroying evidence (though there's no way to prevent destruction of evidence merely by seizing a domain name), and then dragged the forfeiture process out for a year with secret court hearings that the owner could not defend themselves, before finally just giving up and giving the domain back because they had no case against it.

SOPA and PIPA are just ways to make this process easier, and easier to apply to domains owned by foreign entities. They don't particularly care about due process or whether or not they hit benign sites in the process.
I am strongly against SOPA, but I think there are actually more important issues right now (like the military spending act legalizing indefinite detention on suspicion of terrorism).

Man, how I long for the days where the DMCA was what I was complaining about. Nowadays the DMCA seems like a left wing piece of hippy legislation :)
But it's harder to put your foot on the front wheel at high speed and not fall.
we liked it too and designed ours inspired by it: http://www.trybloc.com/

we took out the error message though because it looked a bit confusing and wrote our own copy.
Very nice looking site. I use siteuptime right now though, how would you convince me to switch over?
Wikipedia not actually blacking out its pages
Wikipedia didn't do too well in "blacking out" the pages, a simple bookmarklet like this can show the contents:

javascript:function%20showArticle(){$("body%20div:hidden").show();$("#mw-sopaOverlay").hide();};%20showArticle();

Of course, the point was to spread knowledge about SOPA and its problems, but I would have hoped a real blackout, not serving the content hidden.
Good to see:) Also http://wordpress.org/ (different style with call to action).
Try it in iTerm2. The Terminal app included in OSX Snow Leopard doesn't support 256 colors. The terminal included in OSX Lion should work however.
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They could have a larger reach if they blacked out all the blogs on the site, but I guess people would be mad about it?
There are some who are saying "yes, seriously" to the idea that Google overlords sanctioned this. I really don't buy that. It would be just as absurd to claim that they were double agents planted by competitors.

Now then, saying that Google owes some of these folks more than just an apology is perfectly reasonable in my view. I think they owe Mocality money for whatever business & reputation damage they suffered. OSM is said to have suffered about 20 troll edits from two people, if the article's update is to be believed. I'm not really sure how best to make that right, but maybe Google can go through the logs and help fix everything.
The keys aren't an issue. The issue is whether you can run untrusted ring 0 code before running another OS, because if you can then you can subvert the trust model.
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As far as I can tell, this is only the wordpress.com homepage (not the blogs they host) which is probably mostly unused.
How financially secure were you when you discarded this idea, and what did you work on instead?

My experience is that which idea is "interesting and motivating enough" largely depends on your financial state. If I had £10m in the bank, I probably wouldn't be doing GrantTree (as much as it is a worthwhile business).

Another point worth making: once you've systematised the work on your business, you don't actually have to keep working on it yourself. You can hire others to do the boring bits (if it's making enough money). That will decrease your profit, but also your time investment.
I noticed the same, and you can make it work with JavaScript, too. A bookmarklet with URL

javascript:function%20showArticle(){$("body%20div:hidden").show();$("#mw-sopaOverlay").hide();};showArticle();

will do the trick.
Ben Huh takes on NBC VP in SOPA/PIPA debate on PBS
Great job, Ben!
I actually would be similarly curious how many people oppose SOPA because it 'crosses the line' (whatever that line is), versus how many oppose SOPA because they take issue with copyright/intellectual property in general (in whatever way).
Dupe: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3477968
Hi, I'm the guy who made this page. We've been talking about SOPA for weeks, and announced that we were blacking out several days ago. I think that our readership is on top of that, but I might be persuaded to amend the message... I thought it was fairly clear.
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Chrome's built-in JavaScript blacklist proves really useful today.

http://www.onpaws.com/2012/01/sopa-wikipedia-blackout-hack/
I think it's classy.

Top story on google news is the blackout. Everybody's eye is now on the ball.
At the founding of the US, copyright was for 14 years, with optional extension to 28. Lobbying since then has extended it, in many cases, to over 100 years, and via repeated extension, potentially to a de facto infinite term. That was kind of greedy.

Every copyright holder has a mini-monopoly in the production (aka reproduction) of their own content. It is a well-established result in economics that a monopolist provides a price/quantity combination which maximizes their own profits, but not the total welfare of both the producer and consumer. (With competitive providers, under usual and fairly reasonable assumptions, the price/quantity of a good traded trends towards a level maximizing overall welfare.) So the very idea of "intellectual property" as little monopolies-on-reproduction is in service of rightsholder greed, maximizing their profits at the expense of others, often beyond necessary creative costs or incentives.

Granting such monopolies may have been a necessary compromise when copying and distribution was costly. A better system that maximizes returns for a larger group should be possible today.
I actually think this will do better than a total outage, anyway. Many people go to Google several times a day. Now, each time they go, they'll see this message and be reminded of it, rather than seeing it once, getting annoyed, and moving on to another search engine.
You might simply remove "503: Service Unavailable"
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Google for more instances.
blacking out all the blogs they host (i.e. protesting against censorship by engaging in large-scale censorship) would be incredibly uncool and sure to do more harm than good.
and wonder what makes the few well-designed websites that don't need javascript to be read that special

... or so I can dream.
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Not only have I heard of PACs, but I've given to my employer's PAC, which than donated money to the campaigns of 50+ candidates.

I don't know if you've participated in the system, but it's not fair to equate that with a corporation donating its own money to a political campaign.
Considering that the point of the blackout is to raise attention, hiding is already enough. Anyone who gets to the content will be aware of the SOPA this way. I guess anyone can just use non-US proxy to get to the content anyway.
Access Wikipedia during the blackout
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As I said already, they do not care what we say as long as they get their money. Even if SOPA will not pass, efforts againts Internet freedom will continue.

The wide boycott of RIAA, MPAA and all SOPA/PIPA supporters is necessary. If you give them money, you do in fact support Internet censorship no matter what you say. There is no way to protect freedom conveniently without sacrificing anything.
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I agree completely, but my point is that what they're doing is likely to have little effect -- who goes to wordpress.com?
Remove some/most/all of the hindrances to running a business and hiring employees (convoluted and rage-inducing tax and HR regulations) so that more businesses would be willing and able to launch, expand, and hire. That would create jobs, including probably thousands of coding jobs.

As someone who's just spent the past few months dealing with year-end paperwork at the city, state, federal and corporate level (the paperwork required to set up a 401(k) is incredible), I can honestly say paperwork required to start up and run a business is not a hinderance to starting up and running a business.

What is a hinderance? Finding talent. What would make that easier? Universal healthcare. More retirement security. A better education system. More open borders. Those three items would lead to a more fluid and talented work force, which is exactly what I need.

Removing paperwork? Meh. Yes, I wish the state of CA was less inept and more streamlined, and I wish setting up a business took only one click on a website. But the paperwork and regulations certainly are not preventing me from continuing with my business, and some of them are at least helping ensure I live the lifestyle that I do.
Hm, really? 25 years ago was 1987. I'm sure if Apple lost the copyright to 1987-era NeXTStep, virtually all of Mac OS X would still be locked down. There's scarcely anything else they still make money from, in copyright terms. Unless you mean iTunes revenue, but that's a break-even for devices anyway, and I'm not sure their profits would be hurt that much by music from before 1987 going into the public domain. In fact, it might help because there's a lot of movie and even TV content pre-1987 they'd suddenly be able to offer without one bit of negotiation.
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And all the people releasing workarounds are not helping the cause at all.
Thank you!! I've been searching for this inside Gmail and was very confused. I never thought of looking for it inside Plus

Edit: I spoke to soon. This controls who appears in the Chat inside Plus, but the chat inside GMail still shows everybody!
Why wouldn't they? The cost of living here is a lot cheaper than a lot of places, the weather is fairly mild year round, we're relatively close to either the beach or mountains for when you want leisure activities, there's tons of stuff to do here in terms of live music, arts, sports (college sports in particular) etc., and there are lots of well educated, interesting people who come here to attend UNC-CH, Duke, NCSU, NCCU, etc., or to work for some of the major employers in the area.

Honestly, one of the bigger knocks against the Triangle for the "typical HN reader" is the lack of early stage funding / seed capital. And this program is a nice step in the direction of helping with that. If a startup manages to get off the ground initially here, they might as well stay... at that point, they've already conquered the big challenge.
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Yes I tried setting own mail server but will never be able to get pass gmail, yahoo mail, etc spam filters. Had to give up and pay these ESP at the end.
Wait. If money == speech, can't we argue against the financial blockade parts of SOPA on free speech grounds?

Probably won't work legally, but it's worth a thought...
non-US proxy doesn't do the trick. The en.wikipedia.org pages are blacked out. I'm from Macedonia and when browsing the English pages get the blackout page too.
Seems like there might be a way to do so that preserves due process, has the burden of proof on the accuser and has penalties for abuses.

As far as I can tell DMCA takedown notices work fairly well in most cases.

The main issue is that the US doesn't have international juridiction and they don't like that very much. The US puts a lot of pressure on foreign governments to enforce our laws (I believe wikileaks recently leaked how the US influenced a SOPA-like law in Spain.)
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This is kind of a dealbreaker here. Especially since the chat in Google+ is indeed set to not show the Hacker News circle, but my chat in gmail is still showing everybody! And there's no visible setting to change that outside of Google+
TBH I never visit the homepage anymore (I never see the cool logos people end up talking about; I start up with about:blank for performance). I just search straight from the address bar, and in that respect the small logo change in the search results doesn't seem very effective at making a statement. I assume enough other people still visit the homepage for it to matter, though?
The plugins may be even more useful: http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/tags/sopa
Here's my variation: http://personalmba.com/

I changed the headline, as well as included a personal story. Under PIPA/SOPA, there's a high probability my site would've been blacklisted a few months ago due to user-uploaded content, even though I created 99.9% of the information on the site.
Let's be clear that among the blackout messages, yours is unequivocally the best. Specifically, it is concise and effective in a way that neither Wikipedia nor Google's messages are.

That said, I do agree that it would be more effective sans-503 error.
They could offer an easy "censor my site" option for sites hosted on Wordpress.com
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Or just hit Escape key before the page has finished loading.
If you really need to access wikipedia
I fully support the protest against SOPA/PIPA but if you really need to access wikipedia you can disable the javascript in your browser

1. for CHROME preference->under the hood->Do not allow any site to run JavaScript
2. for SAFARI preference->security->uncheck Enable javascript
3. for FF preference->content->uncheck Enable javascript
4. for IE I didn't care enough to check it:p
CloudFlare blacks out and offers app for you to do the same.
To blackout words on your own site install their app:
https://www.cloudflare.com/apps/stop_censorship
Wikipedia SOPA blackout
What about people who have already signed the petition and want to continue using a great service?

What about the people outside the US that can't sign the petition?
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Surely you can capture a good fraction of ideas by this. But Facebook and Twitter would get missed out here :)
Is there anything to actually have a discussion about relating to this? Seems too navel gazing to me.
Ought to black out all the headlines. Stand at the same level as Wikipedia and co. even if it's trivial to bypass.
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I use the "ultimate" model (blank keys) just fine with my Mac Mini and MacBook Air, no issues.
I do this with my site, http://www.manabi.org to let users try reviewing Japanese flashcards before signing up. They can do everything a normal user can except for share their potentially spammy content with other users.
I suspect you're talking in generalities, but from an outside perspective the US is far from best practice.

Three things that you could implement that other democracies already have:

- electoral boundaries are controlled by a statutory independent body, not the government.

- voting and counting are controlled and supervised by a statutory independent body, not the government. The Bush-Florida mess could not have happened here.

- all political donations over a trivial amount, say $5000, must be reported.

As well, Ministers cannot take jobs in their portfolio's area for some period of time, from memory it is 5 years, after leaving politics.
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I can't reach google.com in any way and that makes me feel like they don't want to let me know about anti-PIPA/SOPA protest. They are really making 2 internets.
It strikes me as a reasonable compromise. It seems pg was paying attention to the recent poll, where quite a few HN readers expressed support for HN joining in the blackout, but where there were some good arguments for not blacking out HN today. By just blacking out the logo, it provides a stark reminder of the situation to any HN readers who needed reminding, but it doesn't take the site completely offline. Makes sense, since there were some good arguments that taking a niche site like HN offline wouldn't do much good anyway.

I dunno, I'm guessing pg just decided to go for a pragmatic, but still principled, stand. <shrug />
Even though probably everyone who frequents HN is already aware of SOPA/PIPA, I think it's more a show of solidarity with others participating (Wiki/Google) and a "lead by example" case rather than the idea that it might make a huge difference in the same way that some of these bigger players will.
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At least some of the 35 million people that host blogs there. They also censored wordpress.org, which Quantcast says get 8 million monthly visits. All in all, the number of people that see the message will probably be in 7 digits.
Well there is an option for Fx keys as Fx keys instead of shortcuts in Preferences.app

But this keyboard, even if it supposedly designed for the mac, won't get my money:
- weird FN keys where the right control stands, instead of the leftmost part like on most laptops (including macbooks)
- eject key way too close to backspace. (really, what could go wrong especially where the delete key is - and while the mac can use a proper delete key?)
- no KP_Equal key

Basically, they took the PC version, didn't change the molds (expansive!!) and just printed some mac-like labels on the key.

A cheap hack, not worth $133.

I'll keep my non mechanical (non gold platted, not approved by Darth Vader) Apple USB keyboard - http://www.amazon.com/Apple-109-Key-Version-Keyboard-1003199...

And they do also come with a USB hub and work fine even of the newest OSX such as Lion
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Maybe you could add a little script of what one would say! Or maybe a sample recording of someone's conversation, it would help people get over the fear of calling!
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It's not preventing me, but it periodically takes me away from more important things and makes my company less efficient. It's not the most important thing they could do, but it would be an accross-the-board efficiency gain, and simplifying things would likely close some of the tax loopholes.
Not totally blacked out, there's a timer at the bottom that allows you to access it.
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As an aside - it's funny how twitter memes are invariably overrun by people talking about how twitter is overrun by a meme. At the moment, "WTF Wikipedia" is full of tweets like:

> bored? search for wtf wikipedia tweets. should make you laugh for at least five minutes

It's like that game where you find a 2 word combo that produces 1 (and exactly 1) Google result - but as soon as you post it, it get's indexed and bang, no longer a single.

There should be a word for it - memeplosion? memecursion? memetition?
Any WordPress.com site can protest by going to Settings → Protest SOPA/PIPA.

More info here: http://en.blog.wordpress.com/2012/01/18/join-our-censorship-...
Consumer protections aren't what set programmer wages at $100/hr+. Your entire premise is wrong.
Adding a link to a take action page would be good too.
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Keeping her as a financial hostage is not quite my intention.
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You seem to be right, I only checked the main-page and Finnish pages and they were open, so I thought all of them were.

I'm sure there will be many non-US people wondering why their page is blocked just because there is some upcoming law in the US. Its not like they can pick up the phone and call their representative to affect the matter in any way.
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