The web is the only "good" tech we share, & this is a cruel & ruinous way to reimpose a repugnant Flash back on the world.

Thank you for making an effort to acknowledge some other sides of the issue. I am sympathetic to anti-Electron views. To me it's ridiculous we have Electron. The web should have better answers so that the secure multi-tenant virtual machine we have (the actual browser) can be re-used. But PWAs are still too limited/conservative, the platform growth kept so slow & with too few parallel efforts/implementers, & we lack any kind of sidecar of system-capabilities to extend them with just-enough systems capabilities (like Electron gives us). So we have the terrible cost of redistributing/reinstantiating the entire virtual machine, a sad waste. There's room for other efforts beyond this (ex: Tauri). But this is just one struggle. Overall the web platform is not to blame for most crimes attributed to it; native apps with massive ad networks & telemetry are also slow & many are bloated (with worse start times by far), & going the other way, webapps like vscode prove amazing super-fast full-featured apps are possible. Neither the web nor native can guard against bad app architecture. But seeing the web taken over by Flash again is a great technosocial regression, a massive injury to ourselves that is indeed vile. We need more principled path to improvement, something that maintains the core distinct advantage of the web medium, not paves it over (as your mobile & desktop excuse does). The excuse that there are some bad webapps in existence doesn't cut it for me, isn't the totalizing proof it's made out to be, to justify smashing it, especially give how many slick smooth counter-examples abound.

Last, I really really really do not appreciate your social muckraking/stalking. These incidents still hurt me, still leave me feeling left flat. Should I have told Twitter Never Trumpers they are just as bad and to get in the sea? Meh, maybe not? (Im still unclear whether I have real remorse on replying with that fatal comment.) Did I overreact when someone posted a shit ton of guns into our DC Tech Slack channels, when they reacted fliply & without visible reprise when others asked them to stop or show respect, over numerous hours? Yes, I did overreact, wasnt as metered as I ought have been. But that ban & most of the other brow-beatings I got from one particular mod on DC Tech slack & from no-one else feel completely out of whack & absurdly lopsided time & time again. It feels impossible to survive these networks, to me, that, over decades of posting some beef or dustup will cause heck & some day I (and many other active participants) just wont emerge out from whatever mod is calling the shots that day. Good behavior is good for nothing to my name, earns no credit. And I put in so much assistance faith trust optimism & belief everywhere I go anyways, because I am motivated by a strong belief, by hope for technology, by hope we can all get better together. Mods remember only the bad & strikes are never forgiven. This is a cruel & uncaring system, one my protests against have only brought trouble down on me for.

In general, fuck off. Fuck you for personally dragging on me, over this beaten complex old history of mine. That's extremely low life mean shit thing to do, over something you know not fucking at all. I burst with enthusiasm & positivity & people were shocked & stunned when I got banned from DC Tech Slack, because I was a helper, a good participant. I think not but maybe I do deserve all these bad things and maybe I am as awful & horrible as you would make me out to be. But I believe if not in the execution at least in basic good & dignity of almost every single strike or ban I've gotten anywhere, and it sucks enormously having a decade of connection ripped away with no recourse offered. Having you track my faults across decades & come to spit in my face & cancel me with vagaries, to score some points against me on this one topic, is an unjust misdeed of much much lower character & decency than anything I have ever gotten banned for. You call me to task as an overexaggerator, a crier of wolf, a disruptor of the public for my harsh words, yet your actions against me contain real intent to harm & cause damage, have acted with cruelty & personal animosity. Lay off your scrooging me; regardless of how my words "quite annoy" you and how frustrating it is being exposed to another's belief, to a care that you happen to disagree with. Smell & see your own salt.

Do I regret demonizing this tech? Currently no. There is a need for alarm, a clear & present danger & need to call attention to great harm, that I think the path it has makes it insidiously hard to notice the downside of, to recognize in time for what it is. I wont apologize for pointing out the toxic dangers here, dont see what options I have to deescalate my alarm over this topic. I will try to focus more on the positive, to spend more time raising up what is good, what it is that is worth believing in. But there is still an enormously dangerous cliff we ride the cusp of here, where users end up with nothing, no agency at all, interoperability ends, and that is anti-human, that is a terrible terrible plight.