> 2 + 2 = 4 isn't true because my maths teacher says it's true, and to say it is because my maths teacher is a maths teacher or has a degree in maths is irrelevant to why 2 + 2 = 4 is correct (or not).

...right, but the math teacher is less likely to teach you bad math, than, say, an antivaxxer on hackernews. And the great thing is, the greater medical authority is, as I said, not one person, but tens of thousands of people among thousands of institutions in hundreds of countries. I'm not "appealing to authority," I'm appealing to basic reasoning at this point.

> US Food and Drug Administration's Drug Safety and Risk Management Advisory Committee and a former member of the Vaccine Safety Subgroup of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

You immediately begin appealing to authority, lol.

> Thanks again, Mao

If you genuinely believe doing things for the betterment of the world is communism, your ethical system, and understanding of history, is bonkers. But, we already knew that, because you continue to claim the nazis were socialists. No, they were not.

> Isolating when symptomatic slows the spread more effectively

...except you can be asymptomatic infectious.

> It reduces hospitalisation for those at risk

Which, again, roll the dice on that. If you believe you are at higher chance of bad vaccine side effect than bad covid infection, you're simply wrong.

> Biden announces sweeping vaccine mandates affecting millions of workers

I fail to see any similarity between this and nazis sterilizing jews at gunpoint. Wait a second... are you saying that under capitalism, all labor is extracted through force of violence, because one will be homeless and starve if one doesn't work, and thus anything that affects one's ability to do employment is the same as sentencing them to homelessness and starvation, and in the usa, no healthcare? Woah that's weird, I hear the soviet national anthem.

You're talking about this gupta person again, let's see how much better they are at virology than the entire world of experts they're disagreeing with. Ah, in May of 2020, they said

> "the epidemic has largely come and is on its way out in [the UK]. So, I think [the infection fatality rate] would be definitely less than one in a thousand, and probably closer to one in ten thousand."

Weird, turns out it's actually about 2.3 in a thousand, or as high as 6.6 in a thousand. https://www.imperial.ac.uk/mrc-global-infectious-disease-ana... so they were either double off in their expert estimate... or far, far more off base. As for "it's on the way out," in May of 2020, hahaha, yeah, some fantastic, smarter-than-everyone-else expert you've got there.

Your champion of the antivax cause is not a very popular person, which isn't itself an indictment if they had good science, but... they don't. Their science has been off every single time. Could it be that the greater scientific community disagrees with Gupta because... Gupta is wrong?

> but we have the Twitter Files to answer that conundrum.

oh ffs, if you want to see hunter biden's dick you can just google it

> Kulldorf, Gupta and Stabell-Benn are flat earthers? Interesting.

No but they all have these super weird ties to the American Institute for Economic Research, libertarian think tank famous denying climate change as a major risk, or this whizz bang of an article justifying sweat shop labor https://doi.org/10.1007/s12122-006-1006-z fun group of folks! But definitely these guys are more trustworthy than the greater scientific community that basically roundly disagrees with them.

Their brainchild, that Barrington Declaration, is weird to bring up, arguing for "protecting vulnerable groups" against infection, while the signatories get on TV and argue against any sort of mandate doing just that. No wonder they were accused of being politically motivated, they're constantly contradicting themselves. They also just say wrong things - Remember when Kulldorff argued that influenza was deadlier than COVID, despite it only killing one kid that year? Against COVID's 1k?

You basically are just restating the various viewpoints of Barrington signatories, but those have all been probed to destruction. Big fan of herd immunity? So was Sweden. The only upside is now we can at least point at them and say "well, it was said this strategy wouldn't work, and as we can see, it didn't." Here, you like wikipedia, they collated all the oppositions to Barrington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Barrington_Declaration#C...

But this is a lot of words for what I think is really happening here: You're some form of conservative (maybe in your country you call it "libertarianism"), conservatives identify alongside covid denialism, so you do too. Your weird ideas about nazi political ideology and minimizing of their destructive actions by comparing it to, lol, vaccine mandates, illustrates this further. It never mattered what the science said, Your People said COVID is fake so you do too.

> Perhaps this isn't the place for you, it requires a higher standard of thought, which itself requires concentration.

yeah, popular at parties for sure

Good luck in life, I won't reply further.