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> "All of this backstory knowledge fuels my rage. When I see Google talk about how “open” the platform is, setting it up as the foil to the “closed” (and framed as “evil”) iPhone, I want to scream and rip someone’s head off. It’s not only the most extreme example of being disingenuous that I can ever recall seeing. It’s nuclear bullshit."

Maybe that talk is in relation to Android being open code whereas iOS is closed and encumbered with horrible shit (iTunes, App Store)? The iPhone is an incredibly "closed" device unless you jailbreak it. That's not nuclear bullshit, that's the fucking truth.

>"Apple, for all the shit they get for being “closed” and “evil”, has actually done far more to wrestle control back from the carriers and put it into the hands of consumers. Google set off to help in this goal, then stabbed us all in the back and went the complete other way, to the side of the carriers. And because they smiled the entire time they were doing it and fed us “open” bullshit, we thanked them for it. We’re still thanking them for it!"

Thinking the majority of consumers care about Net Neutrality or carrier issues is hilarious. The only time they care about the carrier is when they have issues with said carrier. And as mentioned above, what has Apple really done to "wrestle control" from carriers?

This article reads like it was written by a butthurt 15 year old.
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There's a lot of good books on the language, this is 1st edition of staircase book, which covers 2.7, so probably the majority was written for 2.8

http://www.artima.com/pins1ed/

There's also a book manuscript (downloadable from typesafe.com, and Manning.com has 3 books in the pipeline, tho the 3rd, on FP by Tony Morris doesn't show there.
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I hope he knows that Android is sold world over, including countries where there is no concept of subsidy.

Also I hope he knows Android is being used for many more things than just elitist phones.
>Programming language research is a very large and deep field

I agree with you. But to play devils advocate, if its so large and deep, why do I only hear about Haskell and Scala when language-geeks talk about "advanced" programming languages? Looking at the wikipedia link you provide, there's a list of bullet points by decade: 7 things worthy of a bullet in the 60's, 7 in the 70's, 4 in the 80's, 2 in the 90's and 0 in the 00's and 10's. Has nothing interesting happened lately? Is Haskell as good as it gets?
What's the difference between a personal opinion and a personal opinion stated as fact?

It seems like a cheap critic technique to take discredit someone's opinion by claiming they "state it as a fact" when nobody ever writes "IMO" before or after everything we say.

His posts are full of [..] personal opinions stated as fact

I claim this is your opinion stated as a fact, therefore meaningless and I can dismiss it.
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People always want things in their own customized ways. There are standard parameters or grounds on which things are measured, but it is not necessary that everyone will know everything, or may be everything of a thing, as a matter of fact. So we tailor our things as our set of parameters.
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The guy is old, this analysis is pretty weak...
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It is comforting to see someone like Chris Crawford, who has multiple hits, to admit failure. This is a guy who comes out with a lot of interesting game ideas.
> Don't get me started on the logical hoops MG must jump through to view a compromise on a policy proposal for net neutrality as the ultimate betrayal while a device that the manufacturer must approve all software that runs on it is A-OK.

I see this as two different things. Google buddying up with Verizon to change net neutrality in the mobile space has an impact on everyone while Apple preventing software from running on their devices only affects Apple users.
> Ask them what they need. Build it.

Careful with that. Been there, here's a postmortem - http://v4.swapped.cc/certtime
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I like this.

I started working on my own WebKit Mac app framework with a slightly different take (a Heroku-style procfile and a pubsub backbone), but never released it. I'm happy to see others getting traction with similar ideas.
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Besides, "market return" is usually understood to be some equity index, while hedge funds can also invest in non-equity markets (currency, bonds, etc).

Still, what wtvanhest is saying is relevant since in practice a lot of the hedge funds are trading against each other. So it's not "shocking" if their aggregate return is low. I haven't read the original articles but O'Reilly's post is very misleading.
I agree that you can vastly reduce state is a large number of cases. It just seems strange to write in a purely functional language when there are many languages out there that combine functional style with the ability to write in an imperative way.

I can quite happily write programs in python without any real side effects, indeed as you suggest I usually try and divide my functions between those which have side effects and those which don't. So what advantage would I get for picking haskell instead? Other than marginally shorter programs?

FP seems to be picking up steam recently, is this just because we are doing more computation in the cloud and CPUs are getting more cores rather than more raw clock speed or am I missing something?
I have used CloudFlare for several months on several websites and I concur: they are often offline or they block legitimate users.

I am in the process of moving back to my previous DNS manager.
So, to use a metaphor. Let's say you have two people:
- one criminal who steals most of the time to earn a living but does not claim to do otherwise.
- one person with high moral standards, who, once in his life, resorts to stealing because he had to in a set of specific circumstances.

...it is ok to prefer the criminal just on the ground that he is faithful to himself rather than the person with high moral standards, because that one failed to keep to their ideals ?

That's a extremely contrived sense of reality.

Sorry, but even if Google do compromise in many ways lately, they are STILL more of a champion of Net Neutrality than Apple has ever been.
I absolutely love the design of it, and that it fixes the issues I've had with my Apple iPhone dock. My only wish was that I could buy more of them to give to my dad, and my siblings, unfortunately I just don't have the money at the moment.

I saw your post regarding the sped up manufacturing. Looking forward to having it in my hands faster :-).
Summary: MG says he doesn't give Android a fair chance when he compares it to the iPhone not because he loves Apple but because he hates Google.
Thanks for the tip! I just ordered one. There's a lead-gen form you fill out in exchange, but if the book's legit, that's a reasonable price.
That's not true (at least not any more). You now get an account on Manning the first time you buy a book and you can download the electronic versions of those books any time from your account.

Screenshot of my account page - http://imgur.com/Hu7qT

The URL is - http://beta.manning.com

To clarify, the time limit applies only to the links that are sent via email to you. The latest version of the MEAP and the published versions are always available for download.
That's a extremely contrived sense of reality.

That's an extremely contrived metaphor that doesn't really fit the situation at all, and doesn't help attempts to discuss it.
Thanks, but that option doesn't appear. I can do that in Chrome, which gives me a URL for the a element, so I'm guessing the link is dynamically created (for whatever reason) and that's not playing nice on my install of Firefox.
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Except, possibly, the immortal jellyfish. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turritopsis_nutricula
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I say boo to the article.

Rationalle: Google is Samsung's success. Google has given samsung something samsung needed. Samsung's goal will be to reduce customers returning products and increase happiness. Which means Samsung may just give Google a swift kick in the balls for doing some stupid UI. or maybe even share it's code to help boost the platform.

Samsung has no hold over google, it is a symbiotic relationship. There is no parasite here. And of course Google will be stupid to ignore Samsung. Which is why they won't. After all why would any company in their right mind ignore a major player in the market, why turn a blind eye. But don't mistake that with Samsung gets any feature they want, the vision is still guiding Android.
Sorry for the dumb question, but when it says "HTML5" version, what is the underlying technology they are using, if it's not flash?
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probably true when we only had email and chat
I think it's extremely unhelpful, in these discussions, to resort to "well Apple does bad things too, so how can you prefer Apple?"

I was aware when I posted my comment that it might feed into the Android-iPhone flamewars, but I didn't intend it to. It's more specifically that MG is such an Apple fan.

Personally, I prefer an organisation with high aims- that it is unable to reach because of business reality- to an organisation that never even aspired in the first place.
I saw this on my feed, opened the tab on the background, saw it was from MG Siegler, closed the tab.

I don't deny he doesn't have some genuine insight. I just find that the amount of work I have to do to sift past his bias is so draining that I prefer to outsource it to people who _can_ tolerate his... foibles (read: bullshit).
>In academic research and in entrepreneurship, you need to multiply your effectiveness as a programmer, and since you (probably) won't be working with an entrenched code base, you are free to use whatever language best suits the task at hand.

I disagree. If you're a startup, you're better off using a more mainstream language. I'm from India and if I start to find a good Haskell or Scala programmer I'll be looking for a long time and I'll be paying him/her a lot for those skills. Being a startup, you start small and its tempting to start using the bleeding edge technologies, but you must do a cost-benefit analysis; coders for PHP and Java are much easier to find and since the supply is more, the cost of skills will be less.

Bootstrapped startups should particularly be wary of using technologies that have a very small talent pool in their part of the world. Use new/rare technologies if the benefits of using them outweigh the hassle and expenses of maintaining and extending the team/codebase for it.
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Some people genuinely believe copyright is deeply flawed, and that society should reduce the incredible weight it is currently given. Those arguments won't win new opponents to SOPA, but they do need to be addressed.
Presumably someone who doesn't like the HTML5-based-apps direction.
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I wanted Google to be a champion of Net Neutrality, like they originally were. Period. Not just better than Apple.
To be honest, this game is made for multi touch screens. Simultaneously cutting the rope and pressing the airbag doesn't work very well on Chrome (or IE).
"Trust" doesn't, and should never, enter into the equation in matters such as these.
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I think the conclusions this infographic draws are absurd. Let me explain by way of analogy:

Reddit and HackerNews are two sites on the internet, each with their own community of commenters. Let us assume for the sake of argument that Reddit users enjoy inane off-topic humor in their comment threads, and HackerNews users enjoy thoughtful posts with occasional dry wit. Let us also assume that Reddit users can post on HackerNews using their Reddit credentials, and vice versa.

After some analysis of their comment threads, Reddit makes the following claim: Reddit users drive communities! After all, nearly all of the comments on the site are inane banter from Reddit users. People from HackerNews rarely comment on the site, and Reddit's indicators of comment quality show that Reddit users generally post higher quality comments. They get so many upvotes!

But on the other hand, HackerNews claims that HN users drive communities! After all, nearly all of the comments are thoughtful and insightful posts from HackerNews users. People from Reddit hardly ever comment on HN articles, and Paul Graham's indicators of quality show that HN users generally post higher quality comments. Reddit comments tend to get downvoted to oblivion.

Anyways, I just wanted to show by this example that if you take a service that caters to a particular demographic, and ask its users to rate each other, of course you will find that the demographic comes out in a positive light.
Upvoted, because I love what his startup is doing. Last year I got super angry at our city councillors, so I started building something similar (pay $1, leave 1 min message, use Twillio to call all 45 councillors), but I guess I wasn't angry enough to finish it. I hope he succeeds.
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In some ways it's better, in many others it's still the same (bad wise).
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Version 5 of the HTML specification (colloquially known as HTML5) has a number of new features that support Flash-like interactive multimedia content.

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If things are really that bad, that in itself would raise red flags all over the place.

related aside: I always wondered at people who push TOR for citizens of authoritarian regimes - please pin a "subject of interest" on me, pretty please. imho, it is not "content" that upsets these regimes, it is the desire to question the system that is the issue.
Isn't Office Open XML (Microsoft Office's XML format) an open standard, too?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standardization_of_Office_Open_...
As a Millenial...I resent people like him that create a weak image of this generation.

I'm reminded of this blog post by Eric Sink:
http://www.ericsink.com/Career_Calculus.html

It sounds like this kid is spending way to much time managing people's perceptions of him rather than just managing his career.
They were rather chilled off about WebM, so I wouldn't expect them to be interested in Ogg Theora either.
Congratulations on your success. Shows the market is ripe for attacking niche markets. But you also did some smart marketing as well.
Thanks so much Marty, really appreciate that! Wow, that sounds like a really cool idea, could definitely save lots of time. Let me know (@leowid) anytime if I can be of help.
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Yeah, the html5audio option doesn't seem to work in Firefox with Flash disabled.
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Ok. So why is there any comparison to Apple in the first place, since this is a debate about achieving ideals of Net Neutrality ?
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I'm not trying to refute your maths but you might find this book very interesting:

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It's written by the guy who co-founded a magazine publishing company catering specifically to traders, then hedge fund managers and dealmakers.

Inside is a lot of discussion about the top hedge fund people and how much money they were taking home (and spending) at the peak of the boom years. It makes for sobering reading even if you're of a 'well, it's a free country' bent like myself.
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It worked for me with that setup.
Because you were the one who made the comparison in your previous comment, which I was responding to.
Incorrect. Firefox at least displays the text with the second-in-line font and then switches over to @font-face when the font is downloaded.
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Once upon a time if you stayed out of Canada for 2 years, you were pretty much guaranteed to be exempt. Now it's more subjective.

Nevertheless, I agree it isn't bizarre or unique. The lack of a tax treaty with Hong Kong is unfortunate though. It's not even on the table from what I understand.
The line of thinking isn't necessarily flawed. Digital copying is fundamentally different from any act that can be performed in the physical world, and no combination of analogies can ever do justice to that fact.

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So I read through the whole account, and the whole original thread on logopond. And hindsight is always 20/20, so take this as you will.

First, you never asked if people would pay. I only saw one mention of money exchanging hands in the thread, and it was from someone saying that they wouldn't pay unless it had been proven rock-solid from a legal perspective.

Second, how many people actually landed on the signup page during the time you had the beta up? I think devs often hit the trough of despair and rush to add new features, when the real problem is that they just don't have enough people coming in the front door.

Sorry it didn't work out, though. What's your next project?
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MG Siegler is the one that brought up net neutrality in comparing Google to Apple. If you have a problem with the comparison, talk to the guy whose article these comments are referencing.
I don't believe rbanffy ever said "easy." The actual word used was "unavoidable." The inevitable result of giving people the practically limitless ability to copy information without cost is that people will copy information.

In response to your earlier comment ("...just because a crime is easy to commit..."), the right question to be asking is why something that's inevitable should be considered a crime at all. You might as well outlaw the water cycle.

In that light, the question is not "How do we stop the inevitable," but "What do we do to keep making big money in harmony and cooperation with the inevitable?"
I look forward to seeing your perfectly-documented API product.