skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> What happened to the whole “it’s a private company so it can do whatever”?

Most people with that position take the viewpoint that it is consistent with their view of free speech that Musk can do this, but it is still undesirable that he does do it,

What happened to the whole “as the modern digital public square, it is important to the ‘principal of free speech’, even if not required by the legal doctrine of free speech, that Twitter allow all lawful speech” crowd (including Elon himself)?
What happened to the whole “it’s a private company so it can do whatever”?
There are plenty of rich white guys I'm not actively rooting to fail. In fact, until quite recently, I really believed Musk was doing good, was as smart as he presented himself, and was a decent human being. Quirky maybe, but I love quirky.

He has since exposed himself as a massive asshole and idiot.
IIRC, replies are worse than top-level comments and everyone was replying to Paul.
He tried to rage quit but Twitter did it for him. The amount of bs in this thread is amazing. He posted a link to to the status with the rule update and wrote that one could find his Mastodon account on his site. So not much to fuzz about.

I am more upset that someone like PG don't have working TLS on his site.
I think you miss the option that the moderation staff is a few (possibly incompetent) people in a sweat shop who just misunderstood what they're supposed to do, as everything is being don on a whim.
I’m keen to see where these devices land over time. Currently I use a k3s cluster of Pi’s in my homelab, which is fine, but sd cards failing once every year or so does get bothersome.

I did consider getting an M1 Mac mini, but I didn’t feel Asahi was mature enough just yet. But given how much faster the M1 is over Volterra it remains the best option.

Either way, it’s exciting to see more arm hardware hit the market.
Devpod: Remote development environment at Uber
The whole server concept is a disaster, IMO. There is no search box for server. There is no information on how to create a server (at least on landing page). A lot of servers require "manual review". Many are "full". I don't know which one of these servers will even survive over time. I use Twitter as my "log" of interesting content and ideas. I rather not put content on server managed by a dude who can be run over by bus tomorrow and then I lose everything in an instant.
I joked with a friend years ago when Elon started this act that if the billionaire class is going to have their way with the rest of society then they better at least be entertaining.

I can’t say I’ve been much of an Elon fan for a while now but he does give me plenty to gawk at, a modern day bread and circus.
He didn't need to post a link to his personal site; it was already there in his twitter bio.
The plex support forums are pretty disappointing, the top issues go pretty much unaddressed, and past technical choices are really holding back the quality of the experience for me with regard to 4k content.

Jellyfin is coming closer in terms of functionality, but the client apps are missing tablestakes features still, and it's a bit of a pain to have to setup https and dynamic dns and such if I want to access jellyfin outside of my house.
> ruling like a pissed off insecure reddit mod

Ya know, I've heard a lot worse comparisons. And I've seen this kind of thing happen there...

Knowledge and money don't a good moderator make. And Elon Musk has clearly taken on the role of moderator, not just CEO.

So, a spot on comparison.
I haven't seen what you're talking about here on HN.

My impression is that a lot of people here, including myself, have been taking sort of a wait-and-see approach to Twitter, to avoid overreacting.

Are you misinterpreting that as being "Elon orthodoxy" as you called it?
PG didn’t do any of that, did he?
So, how long before we finally figure out that this centralized web that we've built is fundamentally broken. Time for the pendulum to start swinging the other way again.

The whole idea that a single individual can waltz in with his money and take over a massively successful platform and wreck it within a few weeks should give us all pause with respect to the services that we use - even those that are not social media.
What do you all think would happen if you mentioned Verizon while on an AT&T phone?
Remember, U.S. Senator Joseph McCarthy was also just trying to signal and climb a hierarchy of virtue…
Visual Basic was very successful, until Microsoft turned it into a mere alternative syntax for C# [0]. There is a parallel universe in which classic Visual Basic would have continued to thrive as a win32 glue language. (It still does to a minor extent in the form of VBA.)

[0] http://catb.org/jargon/html/V/Visual-Fred.html
Would be pretty amusing if Paul Graham decided to invest in the Mastodon ecosystem. That said, I think Elon is a pretty public cautionary tale of why emotionally driven financial decisions are a bad idea.
I self-host my email, thankyouverymuch.
Each of the languages on the list influenced many subsequent languages, not just one.
It may not be advisable, but tell that to the XP-for-life or 7-for-life people. It won't actually stop working, it just means you're much more vulnerable to malware.
So much for free speech, this is the definition of policing information - can’t believe this is what will actually bring Twitter to its knees.
Most likely latency and cost reasons. A model that's 10x as big requires 10x the hardware to serve at the same latency. Since most generations are not too long, a smaller finetuned model should work well enough.
Syncthing doesn't work for iOS https://forum.syncthing.net/t/syncthing-for-ios/16045

> it's also possible to set multiple different gpg keys for a specific directory. I don't think the last option is doable for most people though.

this seems really complex...
The content moderators were fired some time ago.
> there was all sorts of examples of them being a typical social media platform trying to push various ideas using their control.

Can you share some of these?
interesting when a public good is privately owned
Honestly you may be right.

But walking into a typical US grocery store feels like a place where cheap, quick, processed foods are the focus with healthy food being secondary (perhaps because they’re optimizing their store layouts in response to consumer demand for sh*t food). Rarely is healthy food promoted on isle endcaps.

I do 100% of my day to day shopping at a (very expensive) health food store for this sole reason. At the health food store, they don’t stock soda, chips, etc (or if they do it’s locally made, organic, etc… “healthy” junk food). You can’t buy things like Oreos or Coke because they simply don’t carry it.

For me, removing unhealthy options when grocery shopping led to 40+ lbs of weight loss - with no other lifestyle changes and no additional exercise over 2 years.

When I make the occasional visit to a normal grocery store, I’m always in awe at how much real estate “bad” food gets. It’s the majority of the store.

All of this is to say, another place to look at are grocery stores themselves and the food they decide to carry and promote in their stores, including the layout of the stores, % real estate given to crap food vs. healthy food, etc.
> because Twitter does not ban based on political preferences/opinions.

Because the journalists Musk banned were definitely not banned for their opinions on Musk?

I'm going to preempt the 'harassment' argument--the photo Musk posted, when he was claiming that the journalists caused him to be stalked, was found to have been taken an hour after Musk's jet took off and nowhere near any airport.
I think the Apple rule they're referring to is that if you have an in-app transaction, you're not allowed to reference the fact that the transaction can be made off-app (which would avoid Apple's 30% cut). It's not quite the same, but similarly draconian in that it restricts what you're allowed to say (as opposed to what you're allowed to link to).
The role of drought during the Hunnic European incursions in the 4th-5th C. CE
One can only hope this is some sort of publicity stunt, and he later unbans everyone and changes course again with a "now that you've experienced what real censorship looks like" sort of excuse, but I don't have much hope left. Then again, Elon is far more unpredictable than I thought.
I would say I find government corruption to be more concerning than government incompetence. For the same reason that I would find a crime committed with intent to be more concerning than a crime committed with negligence. Neither are unconcerning though.
A lot? Furniture? Clothing? Cars? Electronics? Appliances? Physical books? [takes off glasses to think] Glasses?

Physical products wear out eventually, but they can last for many years. They're not necessarily perishable.
I am of the least charitable echelon of people when it comes to Trump supporters, but even I recognize that this is untrue. Trump has clearly fallen off, as is evident by the remarkable underperformance of his endorsed candidates in the midterm elections. I observe that many Redhats are moving on to DeSantis as their new GOP "God-Emperor."

That said, this has little to nothing to do with the subject at hand.
ah the tumblr move. let's see how that works out for him
Elon Musk:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604593057676300288

> Casually sharing occasional links is fine, but no more relentless advertising of competitors for free, which is absurd in the extreme

PG did not even post a link, just mentioned the name.
Yeah, well, he also said "I'm not leaving Twitter." and nobody tells Elon whether they're leaving or not. That's Elon's call to make and his alone.
What AMC’s streaming troubles say about the greater TV industry
Hyperloop wasn't a failure at all, it did exactly what it was meant to; kill off attempts to get more railway projects started in California.
Once robocars are clearly about ready to scale up, there'll be a variety of designs including one- or two-passenger cars.

Conversely, buses usually go mostly empty except during rush hour.

Finally, small on-demand robocars should be a great way to conveniently connect to a local train station and then to your ultimate destination, raising demand for complementary mass transit.
It's an town square where everybody can parade around with signs (tweets) for the public to read, that's the whole purpose of the online platform. And where the owner claimed it'll be a bastion of freedom of speech.
How?

Look to that example about Japan.
The idea is that the Japanese Twitter population did not shift over to discussing culture over politics. Instead, the tags were being pushed towards politics, and once they stopped being pushed they returned back to something neutral.

The people who were pushing the tags in that direction were removed. I want to see a website like Twitter have absolutely no people are ever interested in doing something like that.

For the employee account, it's not something I care about personally, but from the perspective of Twitter as a business, being able to have a smaller number of better employees is ultimately a win because the company is able to do more with less money, and be more successful as a result.

> what else did he do?

Not much, which is part of why I'm disappointed.
That's likely true, but I wonder about the distribution. Annecdata, but among my contacts, opinions about Tesla follows feelings about Musk, ie. it'll have really economic impact.

I was (vaguely) in the former category until I saw his petty vengeance on people who he perceived to have wronged him. Eg. he had a Tesla event and arrived 2 hours late. Someone complained, and Musk had his Tesla order cancelled! However I only truly saw him for what he is when COVID hit and he laughed it away as a bad cold while people were dying.
they'll do whatever makes money but control is always at the forefront.
Joan Kroc
Noone in the entire history of the planet earth does.
It's as if half of the people commenting here watched a soccer game for the first time today, lol. That's fine and all, but it's incredibly unlikely that a neophyte has all the solutions.
I don't think OF is even banned, though a lot of them use Linktree which is.
This absolutely was not casually sharing a link that happened to be on another platform. It was an announcement about quitting twitter and an advertisement on where he could be found on a competing platform.

It is straight up the EXACT scenario that the policy was put in place for.
This is pretty funny. If
you have to spend $44 billion, might as well have some fun.
Elon has lost his mind
Omission of TikTok is because the CCP has Tesla by the short and curlies
Elon has been pretty consistent about his rules. You are either 100% loyal to him or you will be banned from the platform.
Unfortunately there's not some kind of reward for spotting Musk for the person he really is at first glance.
This is one of the best talks I've seen, do you have any other recommendations?
The actual horror is the DRM and the forced updates that come along with it. Nothing is stable anymore, all things are fragile, forcing you to develop against a rolling release by default and good luck expecting something working. The only provider of stable releases for some software by now are pirates. So you buy the license, to be safe legally, and then you use warez, cause the DRM is shit by default, trying you to buy more licenses, and they know they can wiggle out of all responsibility, even the ones stated in the license agreement if they can get you to switch to pirated software.

Open source, looks prettier every day.
Percentage of population over 65 years:

Japan 29%

Italy 24%

Finland 23%

Greece 23%

Portugal 23%

Germany 22%

France 21%

Canada 20%

from:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/264729/countries-with-th...

europe is getting old. i remember some political leader over there saying something along the lines “europe’s share of wealth and youth will keep decreasing”
Or maybe said employees are trying to get themselves fired?
Paul, how do you reconcile your previous statements about how long (easy) it'd take to create something like Twitter with the reality of the challenges facing Elon with an already built Twitter?
which exact part is frustrating?

there are some additional twitter-like mobile clients, i.e.

- https://www.macrumors.com/2022/11/29/tapbots-ivory-mastodon-...

which supposedly fix the difference
Twitter to me started to feel like you were at a party having a good time, but then the host had too many drinks and started vomiting on the floor. But because it was his house, anyone who tried to help would be yelled at because it was HIS house and HE was having a good time.

At what point does every right-minded person just nope the situation and leave because they don't want to be that person left cleaning up for an asshole.
Latest time I checked it was impossible not to update Windows. The best I could do was to postpone the updates by 180 days. That was Windows 10.
His first principles seem be to get what he wants through brute force. He'll realize that he doesn't have the brute force to control the online communication of 450 million people.
Perl is nod dying but but in a process of metamorphosis with hope to one day turn into the beautiful butterfly that is Raku
Musk shouldn't be involved personally in any suspension decisions. That's a huge part of the problem
"Sorry to be a free speech absolutist." - das Muskrat

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1499976967105433600
I don't think it's worth getting hung up on what the TOS say.

Twitter is Musk's fiefdom now and the rules are what he decides they are. Letter of the law is worthless here; it's will-of-the-baron rules.
Show HN: GPUX, scalable inference for AI Models
I found that using models was too complex and it needed a simple interface (instead of documentation); while working on it, a few other companies created the same exact thing lol.

Here it is anyways, HTTP GET(able) endpoints for StableDiffusion and other.

Wondering your thoughts?
Someone does something Elon doesn't like, magically the next day there's a rule against it that's arbitrarily defined and enforced, even if it contradicts something Elon has said in the past.

Like revealing a "bombshell" that Twitter was shadow banning users... only to then shadow ban the @ElonJet account.

https://archive.ph/jhJHd
I think it tries to downrank "controversial" posts. I assume this thread has a lot of downvotes from people who support him. I do wish that wasn't the case. This stuff is directly related to the industry.
With his other failures, he's gotten away with it since he always had the "genius at work" aura, and investors (and I guess people in general) just subscribed to the idea that these endeavors were works in progress. Now the vail has been lifted for all to see, and some of what made him attractive to investors is fading away
> but to show what the POV is for anyone who hopes to get more people on the globalization train.

It's impossible to get more people on the globalization train, because we all are on it already.

It's like saying "we should get more people on board with climate change"

It is happening, whether we like it or not, whether we agree or disagree about it.

What we should and can do, is to ask better questions.

instead of asking ourselves what is the cause of some personal condition, pat ourselves in the back and blame the foreigners (it's always the foreigners, of course) why don't we ask who left the rig workers of the story in the dust?

Was it a worker coming from the Philippines trying to have a better life for their children and great children, or was it the same corporations than now blame globalization because they are finding harder and harder to exploit developing countries that also stolen their job and have become as good as them to produce the same stuff?

How much of the wealth that Apple generated exploiting cheap Chinese labour, bowing to China just to enter their 1.5 billion people market, have come back to the US economy and actually helped the working class and our friend the rig worker (not the tech class)?

It's not globalization the problem, it's this capitalism.

The point is: corporations have to start giving back to the people in the form of very high taxes, that's the solution to the issues (some of them are real) of the globalization. Privatize the profits and socialize the costs is not a good idea, we see it, we all agree that it's not working, paradoxically it's been worse in richer countries, because social programs are shit there, they have always relied on having a lot more money to spend than the others. Still we avoid to give the right name to the problem. We have to even if in many Countries they prefer to die than talk about social welfare state, but it's a red pill, blue pill, situation.

But if we don't and corps wanna keep looking for workers everywhere in the World, we also have to let people do the same, in the opposite direction.

Tertium non datur.

Because tertium means we try'n'stop them and they will come anyway, but this time without asking.
And you think AI models could not provide answers appropriately biased towards an advertiser? Organic ad content is the future.
Silicon Valley CA where the only politics is left, and even more left.

Twitter post Elon is Awesome,

They are crying foul now that rules are actually being evenly enforced instead of just on the right. The activists that claim to be journalists having to follow actual rules for once in their life

What is the saying... To the privileged equality looks like oppression, well that is what the Activists that work for mainstream media are feeling today on twitter
The A.I. was making up BS references to back up its BS facts
Libraries are pulping old books en mass. Your donations might go to a sale. If they don’t sell they will be destroyed.
You can’t blame the enforcement of a new policy on a “rogue employee”. The buck stops with Elon and he needs to own the consequences of whatever policy changes he decides to enact.
So go to a different instance or even start up your own! That's the beauty of it, now you don't have to care what person C thinks - you can just go elsewhere.
David Sacks would follow also. Seeing him constantly defend Musk on that All In podcast is painful. "he will never do that" one week turns into "ok he did that but...". It's like a weekly no true scotsman act watching him try and reinvent an argument that fits the very short lived situation into some grand humanity saving strategy. And you have to seriously question his motivation.
Despite being pretty similar under the hood, Ubuntu and Debian seem very different in their approach to this kind of thing.

The Debian package manager telemetry is opt in, for example. Whereas iirc Ubuntu used to bundle an Amazon store in their default release? And who could forget that guy who got a cold call "hey, we saw you spun up a Ubuntu VM in Azure. Want to buy support?"
there was always an emperor
> I think her value add is very clearly "she is famous, people will buy shit that she puts her name on".

Musk example[1] of this, he sold 1 million USD worth of perfume with smell of burnt hair in a few hours.

https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/oddly-enough/elon-musk-sel...
He's shown occasional impulsive, destructive behavior in the past ("pedo guy", getting in trouble with the SEC) but he seems to have lost whatever handle he had on it.
> this has little to nothing to do with the subject at hand

I don't think that's accurate, it's another example of human behavior and to what lengths zealots will go to support their idols in the face of increasing evidence their support should probably be withdrawn.
If you dumped out terraform code for policies, I'd probably pay up to $150/mo for some very reasonable number of policies (200?).
Is there an exception for brands for this lunacy?

If Nestle links to their Instagram is that bannable? What about their site which would likely host all their socials?
Petaluma is 17% Republican, which is probably high for the Bay Area. While I also dislike when politics leak into a show that's subject based (not general interest nor specifically political), he keeps his shows from having much in the way of dead air and some of that requires filling in with whatever topic is on the top of the head of the host. For the Bay Area, that's often going to be about how some conservative is bad. I used to watch lots of TWIT shows but these days I pretty much only watch 'Security Now' and even that only once in a while, but for what it's worth, I don't recall too much political content, at least not content unrelated to security, during that show.
Hmm, I'm debating a lot of this now for my work. What if they said $10/month or $50/year? Or would you prefer a software you could buy for $50 until it falls apart? (I built an app and didn't update it as Android and iOS changed and it doesn't work anymore)

Edit: ok not falls apart but maybe doesn't stay updated and becomes obsolete, or has bugs that don't get fixed, etc.
"Welcome to 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better"

https://twitter.com/wef/status/808328302213689344
The current state of Twitter reminds me of the startups I worked at in the beginning of my career, where unstable people made stupid decisions all the time.
I'm curious - I've seen his tweet. Can I ask you:

1. Are you just an advocate for following a website's terms?

2. Or do you think there is credibility in these terms?
So far links to legit-elephant.lol/@username@instance.name seem to work.

So far.
Elon and you? Really?
So you can incite and insurrection or be antisemitic and be reinstated, but you can't post a link to a competitor. These rules are arbitrary - Twitter is an absolute clown show now
Content moderators aren’t on H1-B’s.
That's the intended use case IMO and it absolutely makes sense. I used to share passwords in Slack before and that made me uneasy, the company investing in a password sharing SaaS absolutely made sense. However, I do not manage 100+ people at home and thus have no need of one.