skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
My family.

I design medical devices, have designed many real good ones. But that is just work.
Dude has to pay $1 BILLION per year in financing.

He can do whatever he wants, for now, until his debtors own it in a year or two.

Everyone needs to use this time to build better alternatives.

Personally I'm hoping everyone just goes back to their own blogs and Twitter, Facebook, etc. goes the way of AOL
There's so many Twitter/Elon stories in the news cycle right now I'd be more worried he causes artificial little scandals to distract people from other scandals. Not sure what that strategy is called.
HN has an outrage problem. It's not new. It goes back to the "vote for funding" thing that Moxie won. And it continues with this week's "Google upped my renewal fee" ragebait. And before that it was some claim that one of the FAANGs was exfiltrating network traffic surreptitiously (enthusiastically corroborated by HNers) until discovered to be false.

In recent memory, the only time the outrage was justified in hindsight was when ICANN had that issue with .org domains. The rest of the time it has seemed to me that the comments come up with 2 min hate and then emerging facts turn out to be different.

My priors are, therefore, quite high that the outrage is usually unjustified. The boy cried wolf too much.
People who tell a lot of fibs tend to get a reputation as liars. This isn't magic. There's no fancy latin name for the error of giving known liars the benefit of the doubt, but there should be.
I think this is taking him way too seriously.

He’s an active drug addict and career criminal. His ramblings about how it was someone else’s fault and he just needs someone to give him a little more money because his plans were sound make just as much sense coming from a white guy with impressive parents as they do coming from anyone else.
Tesla Market Cap falls below $500B
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Commitment (his word, not yours) is a bit strong. The vast majority of free speech related discussion is disingenuous, ignorant or otherwise unserious.

Free speech is complicated. Saying you'll "do free speech" without refering to implementation or intended resolution to various free speech dilemmas... that means you're probably not going to do free speech.

The part that I find most annoying is when politicians bring it up this way. It seems to be the one issue where nonseriousness meets fake passion most intimately.
I can easily agree that the majority want power, sometimes even to do good.

The second point, that they don't see themselves as the threat, assigns them with too much of a lack of self-awareness. I believe many in the current ruling party do see themselves as a threat but they hate the woke/immigrants/workers so they're fine with it.
I wonder if it could help connect open source projects with potential sponsors, including teaching some basic business/sales skills that the average dev probably lacks.
Every government would like this, but I think the issue in the UK is that there's legitimately a lot of public support for "protecting" the children in a way that other countries don't have - so while every government would want this, UK succeeds where as most others don't (yet?) because commercial interests override it (this kind of filtering at scale is not cheap, so ISPs would rather not do it unless they are either forced to or get good PR from it).
I'm trying to add a ping pong table to a park next to my house. Got like 2k of the 5k i need so far. After that probably will try to get a dog fence and a pickleball court.
I have no idea how this works. Did he pledge a particular number of shares, or was it a dollar amount? I.e. if he had to pay up, would it be based on the current value of TSLA, or the value at the time he put them up as collateral?

It could get ugly indeed. Tesla's brand image is slipping, and everything points to that just getting worse. Between Elon as the face of the company, and their seeming inability to deliver a competitive product now that everyone else has started making EVs... well, I wouldn't buy any TSLA for sure. You buy a Tesla now for the supercharger network, everything else is a compromise. That's a shaky place to be.
Just like this story will not survive more than 4 hours on the HN frontpage, despite the number of upvotes/comments.
I don't understand the appeal of the 'metaverse' either. From what I can tell it's basically just some sort of MMO environment where you can do real life things in VR?

That seems rather pointless to me, especially given that other companies and developers have done it much better. Like with Second Life or VRChat or various other such systems. Those don't like awful, let you be almost anything/anyone you want to be, and give you far more interesting environments to use/explore than anything Meta may have come up with for Horizon Worlds. Hell, even things like Roblox, Minecraft and Fortnite seem to be doing better as far as offering virtual environments people want to hang around in, and those are about a million times more popular than Meta's solution.

And when you add the general dislike/distrust of Meta, Facebook and Zuck... well I'm not sure who it's meant to appeal to. Older folks that like Facebook? Not sure they care much about this sort of virtual world stuff. People use VR? Not sure most of those want to use a system controlled by Meta.
Thanks for your work on this I had no idea it existed, definitely going to try it out.
Both extensions are FOSS, so anyone with enough time and skills could say extend the uBO engine with the more powerful uMatrix interface, where the latter could be accessed through an "expert" option for more granularity, then submit the result to gorhill for evaluation, so that he would have a single codebase to maintain.
End users are one thing, but what about multi-billion dollars companies that leverage high-quality open-source components mostly for free?
I think Musk's behavior (and the behavior of a lot of public figures, really) makes more sense if you assume that he's not saying things to express ideas, but instead regards words as noises that you make with your mouth that cause other people to do or think things; if they stop having the intended effect, you have to change the noises.

It's not hypocrisy, it's the natural outgrowth of seeing other people as a collection of vague moving objects that either do things for you or cause problems for you.
Rather than hardcoded exceptions, they should train the model to recognise when someone is attempting a harmful prompt.
It IS subjective.
For a game of its kind it can have sold realy well yet not have sold enough to make up for a poor management and way too big of a debt.
It wouldn't change the reality of "it sold well" but still validate "it didn't sell well enough"
Yeah, this was really disappointing - things have gone very, very wrong with software, but this author is either unaware or uninterested in any of the actual reasons.
Elon Musk is an idiot who bought is own bull. This is just a case of the dog catching the car.

He's never going to develop 'systems that can patrol the speech' because he's far too vain and think skinned to allow actual open dialogue. Like every other conservative, the only speech he really cares about is his own, and he is completely comfortable banning or delisting speech he personally doesn't like. He's tyrant man child.
I think the predictable right on cue overreaction is hilarious.

Remember: Don't feed the trolls

It's petty, I find it tasteless, but I still must admire how easily he plays everyone.
whaa, but it says private jet, it's in the name! I want a refund!
They always could do this in the past, so it's more about "it's gone dark, we can't see that now" and trying to put genies back in their bottles.
Not an expert on this, but by the time fusion energy is here, will it still be relevant? Wind and solar are super cheap now, many countries have regular energy surplus that they can't store (yet), do what will an extremely expensive energy generation mechanism add? Once we 'fix energy storage' do we still need fusion?
JK Rowling isn’t exactly well-loved these days

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/daniel-radcliffe-defends-speaki...
>He literally signed a document in March to buy Twitter, and literally a month later had to be sued to be forced to finish the contract.

Yes, and the intervening event that justifies the narrative flip is that he got increased access to Twitter's internal systems and decided that the company had deeper issues than initially appreciated. Rejecting a purchase where there's a hidden defect is not flip-flopping, the fact that you can't see the obvious weakness of this example is telling.

btw, where's the statement that Elon said that he would not be firing most of Twitter? Again, that seems to be a much better example.... if you can provide it. But maybe you can't?
He wasnt an employee....

As a random person on the internet why should I have any issues posting some random company's web chats?
Scotland Yard has been doing that for decades.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/jan/24/scotland-yard-blo...
Wow. What a huge undertaking!
The words are different because the actions are different.. Ban does not equal suspend.
But ehh.. to be fair. It looks like Twitter still does do permanent suspensions… idk how this is different than a ban. So, if this is a “permanent suspension”.. then sure, it’s essentially the same thing and I would concede my point… but we don’t know.
Before ElonJet was suspended their pinned tweet pointed out that Twitter's acceptable use policy was that it was ok to republish data generally available elsewhere - which is exactly what this is. It would be illegal to operate the jet and not publish its location.
It is already like that. The ayatollas don't need twitter in order to issue fatwas.

(I'm referring, e.g. on the call to kill Rushdie)
At lest Trump still has our back https://truthsocial.com/@ElonJet
Show HN: I built a programmable form-builder
Hello HN!

A little over a month ago (`git log` says Nov 8) I was looking for a way to add a contact form to a different side project that was just a static landing page at the time. I went looking for form-builder tools, but disappointingly, almost every single one I found had (frankly egregious in many cases) per-submission pricing. In fact I only found one tool[0] with sane limits suitable for a side project like this, but I was a bit put off by its Notion-esque interface. To be clear: the tool is great, it's just not a great fit for me.

In any case, this led me to want to build something along the lines of a "form-builder for hackers", which would let me build forms quickly and without fuss, preferably from the command line, preferably using a plaintext interface. I didn't want to use a half-baked custom DSL to define forms, and using a real programming language seemed like a safer starting point. Things really started coming together once this decision was made. If you're using code to define a form's questions, it's a small step up to use code for form logic, styling, and so on.

Well that's what Formulate is – a form-builder where you create forms with code. I worked on this in my spare time over the last month, and I'm pretty happy with the results so far. You can't use it from the command-line yet[1], but here's the general idea:

1. A form is a Javascript file that executes in the respondent's browser (it's sandboxed)
2. Formulate gives your code a `form` global that lets you present questions to the user, make HTTP calls, etc.
3. Your code can't access `window` or `document` but is otherwise a regular JS execution environment
4. Answers to all questions are saved automatically when the respondent makes it to the end

I'm particularly happy with the way undo[2] has turned out, which works by replaying your JS file from the top with all sources of non-determinism (including previous answers) cached in local storage. This _effectively_ gives you the ability to rewind code[3], but the implementation cheats by starting from scratch every time.

I hope you enjoy playing with it! Given the amount of time I've spent on this so far, there are bound to be features missing and bugs lurking. Let me know if you see anything weird or particularly annoying so I can fix it for you.

Finally, a couple of links:

- Documentation: https://formulate.dev/docs
- Ask questions (or get help): https://discuss.formulate.dev
- Landing page: https://formulate.dev

[0]: https://tally.so
[1]: https://discuss.formulate.dev/t/command-line-interface-for-formulate-dev
[2]: https://formulate.dev/docs/advanced/undo
[3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_travel_debugging
Yes, exactly that. If it's in the white pages, everyone already has access to it.
I guess now we have enough data? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33983878
But at least formal methods tools can be applied directly to the specification, to show properties like "well, if you carve out this subset of TypeScript, you have something you can safely eval()" or "you can never have type errors with this usage of this construct in this way."
>This argument is like “what about the minors who want to date middle aged men?”

To be fair, the Nordic countries tend to be very accepting of such cases.
Struggling to think of a child who has all three of: has a google assistant, has to cook themselves dinner; too young to know how to read.
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The "[lack of]" parenthetical is implied. Yes.
It has things that are functionally equivalent with intentions for the given situation.

If it did not, it would not be able to produce things that look like they require intention.

The “lies” it tells are also like it’s intentions for the situation functionally equivalent with normal lies.
If there were someone to counter tech CEO wealth, it makes sense that it’s the person who owns nearly ever luxury brand in the world.
Re Imagine that people put... license place [sic] readers on their private property

That's what businesses do. They sell this data about you.
Tax billionaires to reduce income inequality
> I thought the court ordered Musk to buy Twitter?

Because Elon Musk signed an ironclad contract promising to buy Twitter.

> Also, what was the November statement where Musk said he wouldn't fire most of Twitter? I missed that one.

Look up the Rahul Ligma stuff. He was implying that all the media got it wrong and he wasn't going to fire Twitter employees. To
Turns out the media was right. Musk was planning to fire them the whole time and Musk was just doing his usual distraction shenanigans.
Two things - not only do we have centralized exchanges, but they're also coordinating with each other... what was that about decentralization of power again?

Oh, and using seven of your 18 page testimony to basically distract from the issue at hand - seems more like a petulant child throwing a tantrum than a serious person running a multi-billion dollar business. Good lord.
Do you think your comment is still good after this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3398387?
This is a surprising level of pedantry even for HN. It’s pretty clear what the term means in this context I think.
Your use of prior is technically correct but off putting.
It's called being addicted to attention. He's just a troll that wants the news to be constantly talking about him. Negative, positive, doesn't matter to him (and it's easier to garner negative attention).
VF = visibility filtering
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I'm not disputing the fact that the account was banned, but the implicit assumption that people are making that it was banned simply because Musk woke up today and decided that he was tired of it.
You can also type

continue

And it will emit the rest of the text fragment.
It is in his personal interest. That seems like a reason someone would do something.
Really?

Because the pre-9/11 Internet I remember had The Anarchist Cookbook et al. widely available, didn't have IP-related domain seizures or OS/browser-based safelists, and had Usenet and IRC instead of Facebook.

It seems accurate to say we've regressed in terms of free speech absolutism.
I've never come across the term 'heavy VF' before - can somebody clue me in?
The payment comes at the end of the action so by definition this is unrelated.
Yes, so far. We are working on other ways.
"Seems" based on the case numbers shown on world in data. Given that forcing masks onto the healthy population (regardless of symptoms or previous infection) is a new intervention it should be up to those mandating them to prove that they work rather than me to demonstrate otherwise.

Can you point me to anywhere on the graph that indicates that they improved the outcome? I believe that they were mandated in Bavaria in mid January 2021, and the rest of the country in April 2021.
https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explor...
Yes, I believe committee members referred to it yesterday during the hearing and asked for (and received) unanimous consent for SBF's statement to be put in the record.
seeing this as supporting "freer" is a take that falls apart pretty quickly when you specifically look at who's benefiting from this newfound "freerness"
Musk announced his intent to actually consummate the deal with Twitter about two weeks before the trial was going to start (and right before he was going to be deposed for said trial).
She started in June, she then quit shortly after Elon took over, then she was convinced to come back.
I am more sick these days, but that's because I have a preschooler...
This isn't about any benefit of the doubt, this is about confidently dropping conclusions on incomplete information. That's hysterical speculation, not "benefit of the doubt".

Further, no, I don't pass judgement on every single action or word somebody expressed based on prior behavior. This creates Disney-like villains, which is for the simple minded.
Is that substantially different for taxes collected from billionaires vs taxes collected from ordinary people? If not, I don't see how this is relevant to discussing billionaires being undertaxed. It's shifting a conversation about the fairness of the tax system into a discussion about general problems with the tax system. If there are reasons to lower taxes, that should be applied to every equitably.

My comment that you replied to is calling out whywhywhywhy's comment as bad faith because it's conflating tax collection with corruption, but says nothing that's specific to taxing billionaires. Your comment also doesn't say anything regarding taxing billionaires specifically.
This is all public information already. There is no invasion of privacy.
I don't agree with this. IMHO his career has almost been defined by an extraordinary ability to 'temporarily get away with shit'. For example, the current FSD story: I expect this will be a long, drawn-out, forgone conclusion where Tesla will eventually lose the battle by having to pay back owners but will win the war in having a cheap, easy loan from the most financially unstable years until now.

Other examples:

- Illegal firings of non-US Twitter staff

- Pushing back the Twitter acquisition

- Roadster/Truck deposits

- Radar will-they/won't-they

The ability to stop paying bills without seeing the inside of a cell or having to sleep in the cold is a powerful negotiation tool. Some won't even have the means to sue him. Despite being painted as failures, none of these will have a materially adverse affect on his life. Consequences are different for a person like him.
On top of that, there so many lisp implementations, it's not even funny anymore.
Not true. "Any aircraft" is only valid for ADSB-Exchange. All others filter.
The HN community should start our own version: We retrieve the latest ElonJet info and then tweet it. See how many of us Twitter suspends.
Thanks, seri4l!
Open source will be perfectly fine if developers are not able to actually make a living spending most of their time on it, this is how this has always worked and nothing needs to change.

People and organizations who want to make a particular improvement to some piece of open source software will. If there are no dollars comming into the front end of the pipe, then those who don't want or need that change, won't make it - and that is perfectly okay. Open source can be quite successful even living off of people writing that code as part of their job or as a hobby. There is no need for it to be a separate career path - if an open source tool can't do X well, then whenever somebody needs or wants or gets paid to do X, that can be committed to that tool by the people whose career involves applying that tool. Sure, extra money helps, but open source communities work reasonably well also without it.
But hours later, Firefox Ubuntu crash with "assertion error". I disabled uBO, Decentraleyes, Privacy Badger, it doesn't go away.
no brainer in that you would need no brain to assume they they "work" at this stage
Frivolous lawsuit. Hope it fails.
I don't know, which is the entire point. If we don't know, we can't judge.
The point is you can see people responding to her statements not her status as a billionaire.

Just like people clearly dislike Bill Cosby because of rape not his status as a former entertainer.
Not all the ISPs kowtowed, Andrews and Arnold famously refused: https://support.aa.net.uk/Filtering
Yes, but I do not know, what you are trying to tell me.
Show me a programmer that has never created a bug and I'll show you a liar.

Regardless, that's not even all the possibilities, do we know what it's last tweets were? Was it mass reported? Was it taken down by an employee or a bot? Was that on purpose or by mistake?

Feel free to add more, because surely they exist.
Not true. Fr24 does not show Elons Jets.
I don't know how it's in general, but the few Rust packages I checked seem to be of very high quality.
If the tradeoff is Elon bans all the horrible doxxers and childporn weirdos and permits all the vaxx skeptics, the non-establishment Left, and non-establishment Right.

I am completely fine with that.
Something, something, get off my lawn? Actually I wasn't getting paid to write C back in 1989, but I definitely did write C in the era when ANSI C wouldn't have been generally accepted.

Immutable variables are a good idea (indeed I agree with Rust's choice to make variables immutable by default), but, they're not constants, and so this is an unnecessary confusion.
When is SAML support coming?