>> This is so effing stupid to read. You don't innovate to reduce costs and time prep to squeeze out more time out of people so they can work 3 jobs instead of 2 to pay for microwaved food, that's not the end game.

> Maybe if you used a sliver of creativity you could think of a solution that doesn't result in this outcome. This is false dichotomy. I'm not saying this is end game.

Maybe if you used a sliver of creativity you could think of a solution that is not tech based. Because, guess what ? The problem is not tech based. Moreover you claim it's about personal sovereignty and yet your solution is to ignore the core problem and jump to techno gadgets. Why would tech help if the solution is for people to take personal responsibility ? Talk about tunnel vision...

> I'll reiterate that yes, it does come down to personal responsibility.

And I'll reiterate that no, it does not come down solely to personal responsibility. I get it it's easier for you to think/believe people make bad choices willingly because it fits your narrative and is simple to understand but it's naive and short sighted. You won't get results or changes out of people if your framework is that narrow and limited.

> >Too busy working on climate change at the moment [0] if you want to know it all.

> Food systems account for 1/3 of global emissions. You act like there is some moral superiority tied to your own work while ignoring the low hanging fruit of food systems in climate change mitigation.

Moral superiority ? I think you are projecting because, too bad, I happen to put my skin in the game and you couldn't imagine that when you wrote You obviously see a problem in one our biggest industries. Go disrupt it. Do something about it. No one is going to pay you to complain. Who was trying to get the moral high ground ?

> >If you could stop complaining about "people's excuses" as well that'd be even better.

> I'm not complaining. I'm pointing out erroneous narratives and harmful mindsets.

You are pointing at the obvious and easy parts of the problem and reducing the problem to those parts only. See your comment I am sorry you lost your free will. Arrogant, not empathic and not helpful.

> The same was said about transitioning away from fossil fuels and going against the billions of dollars poured into climate denial. Change will come. Maybe you should extend the scope of your imagination to entertain a better food system instead of rolling over.

I don't understand how you came to the conclusion I don't believe change will come. Don't put words in my mouth.

Why are you now advocating for a better food system since you claimed it's all about personal responsibility ? Isn't what you said earlier enough ?

> Eat mostly whole food and move. Walk. Walk uphill. Lift if you can. Run if you can.

> Buy food in the produce section. Buy food in the meat section (if you eat meat). Buy whole grains.

> But you'll keep believing what you believe, and that's fine. Keep resorting to edge cases to defend your claims, and accept that big food will maintain its grip on your free will.

Hey, you are the one calling on bodybuilders and (every athlete, bodybuilder, etc that wants to gain or lose weight can do so basically at will, on a set schedule they plan months in advance.... but all athletes and bodybuilders combined are the edge cases compared to the majority of people.

And again, just like personal sovereignty and free will absolutism are more often than not not enough to defeat bad habits it so happens that big food doesn't have total grip on people's free will (who said they totally controlled us aside from your straw man argument ?) . But they do have a huge budget to spend on marketing and lobbying that is at war with people's will and motivation.

> I'll still be here actually doing things that make a difference, not caving to the complexity of models, and maintaining ownership of my decisions.

I don't think calling people's personal circumstances "excuses* and being a smart ass with stupid one liners like * I'm sorry to hear about your loss of free will. * will help anyone and make any differences.