skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
That still seems harsh if T-Mobile rent extraction was the only true harm and there wasn't eg sim-swapping or id theft involved.

(e: I missed the $25M proceeds. Changes my thoughts a little, but still, 10 yrs seems like a lot if T-mobile was the only victim... seems like taking all his money and then some, compensating T-Mobile for actual costs, and giving the rest to the local public school or whatever would be better all-around and we can all shed some crocodile tears for the telcos.)
If I'm understanding this correctly, this is a front-end only framework... is that right?

If so, what do people pair it with on the backend?

I can see how this approach allows for much more dynamic pages with just static content, but what about when there is a database involved?

Also, what do people use for "published" static sites (I mean where the site is static once published, but the publishing step can pull content from dynamic source. Not sure the common terminology for that, but in this case, there tends to still be app logic to be developed, but it's just executed at publishing time rather than run time.) I'd imagine a publishing framework that is htmx-aware/friendly would be powerful.

Just curious how people round out the tech stack.
It's sort of meta to this whole discussion, but it has been interesting to see "journalists" like Fred Lambert and the evolution of their coverage.

Fred was an early Tesla fanboy and investor; he used to gush over Tesla and Elon Musk in his writing at Electrek. It seemed like most of the time when Tesla was mentioned in an article, he also mentioned TSLA, the stock ticker...but he didn't seem to do that as regularly for say, Ford or GM.

It was rumored that Fred had a direct line to Elon and there were also occasionally public Twitter interactions between the two, but Fred gradually become more critical of Elon, especially over FSD stuff. After one critical article, Elon blocked Fred on Twitter: https://twitter.com/fredericlambert/status/14176561698297487...

Fred certainly hasn't forgotten about it: https://twitter.com/FredericLambert/status/15186308301381795...

So, Tesla fanboy/blogger comes up with some valid criticism, Elon cuts him off, which in turn probably makes him more critical of Tesla/Elon.
Techdirt post responding to the platformer article

https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/14/twitters-big-ad-plan-violate-both-ftc-consent-decree-california-privacy-law-to-force-users-to-hand-over-info-for-ad-targeting/
The far right is racial violence, not wanting Fauchi to be prosecuted. Please don’t use extreme terms unless you know their meaning.
I suspect the below-"Level 5" driving systems will become more of an "augmented driving". I've driven in newer vehicles with automatic lane centering, pedestrian detection, etc. and they don't really seem like they're even doing anything, you still feel like you're the one driving, except that it's more precise with the occasional interruption by the car when it perceives risk of a collision.

These augmented systems will probably reduce the risk of accidents so greatly that the value proposition for Level 5 driving systems just won't be there.
I’ve been using 1Blocker for a few years. If anyone knows a better one, please chime in. I like that it works on iOS and Mac Safari.
"Potential interest". That's not actual money; that's not even "I'm interested in giving you money". That's "I could be interested in giving you money". That plus an actual $6 will get you a cappuccino.
When someone's been scammed, it's very hard for them to admit they have, because it makes you feel like a rube. You want to create a safe environment where they feel like they still have support and aren't ridiculed for making their mistakes, with the focus being on solutions.

You may need to present evidence and give her ways to tell that this is in fact not Elon, because she currently does not have the tools to recognize a situation where she is being scammed. Methods might include explaining that the situation of "a media famous billionaire is personally interacting with her" is too good to be true, especially without extremely good evidence that it's true which she has not received, that intuitively, someone with a net worth of 181 billion dollars would not be asking her for 5k, and that the site she was using just got closed down for scamming its customers out of their money.

Use any rhetorical tools in your argument toolbox to give her the intuition that she's been had, how she was had, and explain that these kind of scams happen thousands of times a day and explicitly target the elderly, so she's not to blame for what happened.

Once you're on the same page, help cut the scammer out. Block their email, block their social media, block their phone number, virus scan her computer and add an ongoing scanner on her machine, update her phone, install an ad-blocker on her browser, and if you have the savvy to do it, go into her router and block that scam site at the DNS level so she can't get back.
Can you link to one of these instigations?
I'd say yes there is especially if you are trying to optimize for low-level, close to hardware features, like rendering performance and battery life, both crucial on a phone. No browsing engine comes close to WebKit for those even on macOS.

My best guess is that it would take a few years on iOS (at least) to get to the current difference that Blink/Geck have to WebKit on macOS, which is already considerable in favor to WebKit to begin with, despite being able to develop for this platform for decades.
I'm not sure level 3 is any safer than level 2. Level 3 still requires a driver to intervene if the car requests it. But going from not paying attention to driving isn't something that can happen instantly. Imagine you are playing some game on your phone and alarms start going off in the car. You need to be able to process what those alarms are saying, assess the situation, and take control of the car. How quickly can people do that? Likely not fast enough to avoid any urgent issues. A driver in a level 2 system should already be paying attention so they should be able to respond quicker.

And yes, I understand that drivers can get lazy with a level 2 system. But if the selling point of Mercedes is taking over liability from the driver, I am mostly concerned how the system would benefit me as a driver and I regularly use my car's level 2 features while paying attention.
When people make leaps of logic regarding a wide assortment of things, we call it what it is: a conspiracy theory, lacking evidence, and false. Likely later it will turn out to be true, but it isn't yet, so we are obligated to frame it this way to fight the spread of misinformation. This thread is full of people who have a hypocritical stance on this approach to information sharing. I just wish they'd be consistent.
> It is impossible for the stock market to be irrational, but individual actors within are often irrational.

I disagree with your definition of rationality, and I find it a bit bizarre that a group of people acting irrationally, as you admit, can magically become collectively rational... except "by definition", i.e., your definition.
Yeah a good few years ago, before I had learnt about frameworks like React, I used JQuery for one of my projects. Once I learned about React, I decided to rewrite this project using that instead, and afterwards I felt that the React version was very obviously the superior version. I just feel like we now have better options, and I still really like React's way of handling state in a moreso functional way.
This is often very ignored in analysis, most (if not all) those coins have prizes based on inflated valuations.
> Maybe he's just trying to crash Twitter as opposed to restructure it financially.

It’s funny how this theory resurfaces on bad news and disappears for a while with positive news (positive for his base ofc).
Not wanting adults to have sexual contact with kids or men in the women’s change rooms are both pretty mainstream positions.
We are finally starting to understand brain fog and how to treat it
I want to like - I feel like the frameworks are all too much ceremony now. You need to buy into a bunch of different build tools, a cli or two, and are left wondering "where is my app again?" I've tried htmx, though, and like the simplicity, but am not 100% sold. In the olden days, ASP.NET Web forms Ajax had "Update Panels", which were similar to this. You'd wrap a section of markup in an "Update Panel" and that made it refresh just that bit of the page while keeping the rest. The problem is your "api" then ended up being a bunch of pages that output html, and passing state was a huge problem. This seems better, but still similar concept.

At the end of the day, I want my backend API to be restful json(or grpc, graphql) any client can consume. I want the client to be written with as few dependencies as possible. Maybe I'm misunderstanding though. Put another way: suppose I have an existing backend REST API where input/output is json. Can I use htmx without any changes to the api or server-side code to translate json to markup?
So they just take bikes that arnt registered with them? That seems very aggressive and strange to me to begin with. I've never heard of trying to tax bycicles like that.
Throwback to 2011 when LulzSec was in its prime and they got the ATL InfraGard branch and defaced their website.

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/06/04/infragard-atlant...
Doesn't seriously harm performance of the rest of my system the way a many-tabs Chrome or Firefox tends to.
okay but oil is a fundamental input into everything hence a much bigger threat than say TSMC's nextgen fab. everybody understands that with some effort those outputs of a strong economy can be recreated but not inputs. Arguably lithium or water may become that but we are currently far from it. Sure there will always be something we'd want to control but we can go in more calm, clearheaded way towards it rather than just use force because we have the biggest stick.

people love to invoke game theory but fail to explain why only we spend more than next 10 countries military budget combined. plus its quite unclear what we get out of it because of all the secrecy & likely its mostly inflated costs and kickbacks. The wars in Iraq/Afghanistan themselves have cost close to 3T over time & thats outside of annual budgets. Personally I'd have preferred to take medicare for all for that amount of money.
Still not all selectors that are in jQuery , I think :header is not yet native, not the selectors by attribute value.
Police actually often do retrieve stolen bikes! Not most of the time, and not because stealing a bike is a crime, and not because they know it's stolen. In the US, if one or more bikes are in the posession of the (ahem) kind of person that your local police have motivation to shake down, they may be confiscated if they're in that person's possession when they do.

If the bike is valuable enough to be worth the effort, it will eventually be listed for sale by the police, usually through an "unclaimed property" continuous auction system. If the bike doesn't clear whatever value/revenue threshold that is, it'll be scrapped or donated and that's that, or sometimes it'll end up bundled with a bunch of other low value things as a single auction item.

If your bike is valuable enough to generate revenue greater than the expense of auction logitics and is stolen in the US, pay attention to police auctions in your general area and it's likely to turn up. Sometimes they'll skip the sale and give it to you if you have documentation proving that it's yours, sometimes they want you to point them to the police report you filed saying it was stolen. Sometimes they'll lol and you have to pay up anyway.
Fair enough, thanks for responding. For the record, my belief is that you don't need to be so pessimistic - democracy is always messy, and I think the perception of corruption in the U.S. way exceeds the reality, and most reps are really trying to do what their constituents want... we just have constituencies that really want to bicker with each other. But, maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part. Good luck out there!
Oh this is definitely false!

Night is very concerning and is a problem for computer vision systems.

During the day illumination is fairly consistent. Sure the sun moves around, but it's not a spotlight. At night, illumination varies a lot. A detector that works during the day may not work at all at night. This is no joke, there are papers that show dramatic performance losses for tasks like pedestrian detection at night.

Cameras are worse at night. They need to be more sensitive which dramatically increases their noise. They may need to have longer exposures leading to blur, which is of course made worse if you are moving the camera.

Headlights also don't provide the same visibility so your reactions must be faster. Reflections are a big problem too. Oncoming headlights are also an issue.

Nighttime testing will be critical.
I think this logic is still square-

Normally, each person puts one new driver on the road per-lifetime.

When you beta test a baby driving robot, you’re now at two new drivers per life! And the Tesla doesn’t seem to be learning faster than a human!
> We can decide that for example they could not have predicted this outcome and so are not liable, or that they should have and were neglectful, or something else.

We fundamentally disagree on whether or not what Facebook "should" have expected or "should" have done is worth considering. I don't think it's legally relevant. Profits can demonstrate incentive that otherwise wouldn't exist.

The existing legal precedent for how algorithms are considered under tort liability [1] are still unclear. It's clear to me that allowing this lawsuit to move forward would be directly contradicting the ruling of Force v. Facebook (2019) and would force a ruling on how AI algorithms should be held liable with respect to section 230.

From the perspective of the user, making a platform liable would mean that the platform would fundamentally shift what users are allowed to post and strongly weakens basic rights to freedom of expression. It's hard to depict how different and more censored the internet would be if section 230 continues to become weakened.

"Critically, the finding that AI algorithms can be found to be harmful allows for the tort liability process to come into effect. While this kind of legal approach has not yet been taken, Patel indicates that corporate liability is a possibility. If an AI algorithm causes harm, it must be prosecuted through tort liability."

"However, in the same timeframe as Patel’s ruling in 2019, ... a group of U.S. citizens who were victims of a Hamas terrorist attack, sued Facebook, arguing that Facebook implicitly assisted Hamas by keeping their violence-promoting content online through their AI algorithm’s oversight. [12] However, in accordance with 42 U.S.C. 230(c)(1), the rule that protects social media platforms from liability for content on their platforms, the court found that Facebook could not be found to have criminal or civil liability for content. [13] This case complicates the implications of Patel, as it found that Facebook was shielded from liability because the content itself was not created by the platform. "

[1] https://www.culawreview.org/journal/extending-corporate-tort...
Will I ever be able to have self driving on a personal vehicle, or is this just centralized automating the work of a taxi driver? IMHO, these are two very different things for the consumer. This is why I actually prefer the Tesla approach, or actually Comma AI. (If it can be made to work robustly…)

It would suck to be in a world where the only way to do self-driving is indistinguishable from the Uber or taxi service we already have (and likely wouldn’t even be cheaper if it’s proprietary to one or two mega-companies who can extract nearly all the productivity surplus from this as monopoly rents).
> Trump was banned for inciting an insurrection which is illegal.

So we should ban everyone who's suspected of doing something illegal then? They don't even have to be charged with any crimes, we just have to be convinced that they did something illegal in order to have grounds for banning them
The long-term asset is the money lent to the customer that FTX expects will be repaid.
So a US based company, operating under US law, is responsible to use its US based platform and employees to decide how users in a totally different country use the internet?

If you're gonna support the British Empire, fine, be my guest, but be aware that this is pretty close to noblest oblige views of colonialim
Curious at why are you using DRF with HTMX; isn't DRF more common when you need to return JSON for example and render in the frontend? Wouldn't returning Django templates to use with HTMX be the best option? Or is it for POST requests?
I'll also add that I think what Waymo is doing right now is closer to a semi-autonomous streetcar. There's probably immense value in that approach, especially as an alternative to mass-transit systems that have costly labor, but it's not clear that they are imminently close to "anywhere, anytime" self-driving.
ADAS Levels were standardized by the Society of Automotive Engineers. Are you saying the Society of Automotive Engineers are all just business people and not engineers?
The account you link to is now suspended for talking about ElonJet being banned.
I’m at no means an expert but it would be logical for me to somehow put the easiness of how the crime was committed and the magnitude of the ill-gotten gains in relation to calculate the punishment.

In other words, if all it takes is to operate a store, gain familiarity with your vendor, and then swindle your way to $25,000,000, there might be a lot more copycats so you want to set an example.
Stock Sniper Might Have Pumped and Dumped
> Well, that's obviously false give the existence proofs in these comments

Sorry, I meant in real life, not on HN. If you judge reality by what comments here say, you would believe that the average person thinks of TikTok as the greatest evil and that american big tech is out there to violate their privacy to entrap them for life, which is why everyone and their grandma runs an Arch or Ubuntu distro.

This is what I call a niche flavor of a terminally online take.
Can you share a link or some other info about said Discord? Sounds like a comfy place.
> The ElonJet account was violating rules for leaking internal company communications

First I've heard of this. The ElonJet person was a Twitter employee then? What communications did they leak?
Could you tell me what you mean by the word “Bourgeoisie”? I thought it approximately meant “middle-class” or maybe professionals.
I think the fact that my post now sits flagged and invisible, yet you're still commenting on it, more or less bears out the point I was making. I'm genuinely sorry you took offense, really I am. I thought that was fairly gentle, honestly. It was intended to be a fun way to point out the tribalism at work here. But... something are maybe just too fun to hate?

Let me repeat: I love my car. I'm not here to hate. I'm here to try to explain how great this thing is. Really, you have no idea how fun it is to have a robot drive you around town. And, comments like yours and the rest here make it clear that you're really missing out on that kind of joy in your rush to hate.

Call a friend and get a ride in an FSD beta car. You really might change your mind.
From your own link:

"When the Intercept obtained EcoHealth documents in September, seven of 11 scientists who are virologists or work in adjacent fields told the Intercept that the work appeared to meet NIH’s criteria for gain-of-function research"

So majority of scientists are on my side, minority on yours.
> Mercedes is a real car company with real engineers and a gold-standard reputation to maintain.

Not only that, but they have a quality reputation to uphold with their domestic (German) and regional (European) market.

Your average discerning German car buyer (i.e. the sort who has a Porsche 911, or a higher-end Audi/BMW/Merc) in their garage will swiftly tell you about numerous problems with the Tesla before they've even sat in it.

Panel gaps, for example. They mean a lot to your average discerning German, and your average Tesla has them by the bucket load.

In fact, the German in-joke is that the reason Tesla built a factory in Germany is so that the Germans could (try to) teach them how to fix the panel gaps. :-)
This is super interesting because I thought Tesla was running some embedded Linux system. SteamOS/Proton are mindblowing.
https://github.com/klausler/aoc
GRUG? Is that you?
> It was my fault - it wasn't locked up.

Pretty sure it's still the thief's fault. (I dunno, maybe you were in Amsterdam at the time.)
> The good reasons, anyway. Please no GPL screaming.

How is “we want a toolchain we can use as an library from non-GPL code” not a good reason?

The ability to link against LLVM and Clang has driven a massive advance in languages and tooling.
> It’s also not the case that any current browser is so bad that the web is better off without it.

But it is. Safari on IOS is either missing or badly implements every system that lets web apps compete with system apps.

It's totally impossible to use something other than safari on IOS as well, which basically means apple is able to force a very significant amount of web traffic into their browser and basically lock out any feature the choose.

That is bad for the web.

Additionally, I think you're mistaken on the performance crown. Firefox made big gains years ago but chrome has always managed to perform better at most tasks despite those gains.

Maybe if you were running really low on ram Firefox is the faster option? That's not your typical use case though.

I use Firefox regardless. I way value their not crippling AdBlock over chrome and would encourage everyone to use it despite speed issues.
> Most people are not like this.

I agree with what you wrote, but would like to add that the percent of victims can be much greater than the percent of perpetrators, if the perpetrators have multiple victims. So it can be simultaneously true that only a few people become bullies, and that many experience bullying at some moment of their lives.
Isn't this just part of the "Art of the Deal" ?
Hi, fellow MUD/MMO person here with an additional background in blockchain.

Can you walk us through where you think a language like Verse really shines with transactionality versus the current server authoritative models we see implemented in [language here] using [framework/pattern] here (like C++ and ECS)?

I've done my fair share of FP (got into Haskell years ago) so I see value here, but I'm not sure I'm grokking your level of excitement and would like to understand better.
Yep, GL4 with DSA was such a big improvement.
Damn I can't wait to try neurolink.
Pervasive facial recog like in the PRC probably makes a lot of espionage ops terribly more difficult. I'd like to read about how though.
Hypermedia APIs and JSON (Data) APIs are different. I have a few essays up on these differences here:

https://htmx.org/essays/hypermedia-apis-vs-data-apis/

https://htmx.org/essays/splitting-your-apis/

Generally, I would recommend splitting your data and hypermedia APIs up, so you can take advantage of the features of hypermedia (the uniform interface) and still provide a good data API to clients that want it.

Also, this is pedantic, but a graphql JSON API is almost certainly not REST-ful, in the original sense of that term:

https://htmx.org/essays/how-did-rest-come-to-mean-the-opposi...

https://htmx.org/essays/hateoas/

More essays and other silliness here:

https://htmx.org/essays/
Collecting HD Maps is an 80/20 problem (I have a patent in a subfield of this, for better or worse lol) - you can get a ton of value from a small set of focused areas. If you can solve greater metro areas (no dirt roads?), you've got a real solution.

I also think that the mapping and routing component matters a lot less than how good your collision and realtime avoidance systems are. And in that arena, Tesla is an unmitigated disaster.
< 37 MPH?