skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
It's clear that we are currently dealing with a deluge of AI generated content that is overwhelming our ability to process and make sense of it all. This has led to a situation where we are essentially drowning in a sea of noise, making it increasingly difficult to separate the signal from the noise. This is a problem that we need to address, not just for our own sanity, but for the future of AI itself. If we continue to allow AI generated garbage to flood our feeds and clog up our systems, it will only serve to undermine the credibility and usefulness of AI in the long run. We need to take steps to better filter and manage this content, and to ensure that we are only consuming high-quality, useful information. This is a war that we are fighting, and we need to be prepared to do whatever it takes to win it.

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Edit: the above was the output of ChatGPT, given the following prompt:

Write a Hacker News comment on the subject of "Drowning in AI Generated Garbage : the silent war we are fighting"
"Off grid" quite literally refers to the notion of not being connected to a grid. Mostly that means the electrical grid but people also include other utilities like gas, sewage, and phone/internet. All of which involve some kind of physical infrastructure that you are cut off when going "off grid". Wireless internet was not an option until fairly recently. Now it is. And you can generate your own electricity too.

Not making this up by the way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-the-grid

I get that a lot of people would love it to mean living like hermit in some hut in the middle of nowhere without a lot of comfort. That's a choice you can make of course and more power too you if you do. But for most of the rest of us, being off grid and having working internet are no longer mutually exclusive.
> Would Google exist without Linux? Absolutely not.

What are you saying? That Google as it exists now would not exist? That's probably correct. That no one else would have created an equivalent search engine? That's much less obvious.

> Would the iPod exist without Linux? No.

Why do you need a FOSS OS to make a portable digital audio player with a hard drive?

> What about all the value created by smartphones?

Why do you need a FOSS OS to make cell phones with integrated computers?
I get your point, but here is a reason I am stunned:

Until now, if you ask "what makes humans different from animals" many responses could be in the line of "generating art, poetry, music, synthesise ideas"..

Well, now it seems somewhat clear that THAT part of human activity can be performend by something non-human.

(There is still a lot more to humans of course; I agree with you on that point)

Yes -- it is only reassembling stuff humans in the past have done -- but so is most of human activities in these areas. Very little humans produce is not inspired by input from others. Art, music and ideas reverberate back and forth between humans and only slowly change over the decades.
> $1000 right away before the item even went back.

They don’t do this anymore. I recently bought a hard drive and found the anti static bag was opened. When I returned it Amazon made it clear I would not get a refund until it was back at the warehouse. I dropped it at a Whole Foods return desk and got my refund days later.
Once upon a time "liberal" meant adhering to the principles of pluralism and recognizing the existence of multiple viewpoints on controversial issues. But apparently no longer? One view, one course, one future, glory to the unstoppable wave of social progress!
I'm really scared for the future of the internet.

I believe the answer will be some form of certified (maybe not officially) content creators. We'll need a Google alternative indexing only by whitelist instead of crawling the whole internet, and giving better ranking to articles and content produced by domain experts. "Who" wrote it will become a lot more important.
I spent half a year doing l33tcode tests, then I realized there are more than a few companies that don't use this method for interviewing.

https://github.com/poteto/hiring-without-whiteboards

I'm not saying you have to use this list tho, just making a point.
According to the author, chatGPT is generating

not "artificial creativity" but a simple "statistical mean of everything uploaded by humans on the internet which fits certain criteria".

Isn't the post I'm typing here not also the product of my brain that's been trained by a couple of decades of sensory inputs and trained to produce outputs that fit certain criteria? What is the fundamental difference between fleshy neurons and silicon ones (besides that my learning algorithm has been optimized for millennia by natural selection and the artificial training algorithms are still in full development after ~40? years)?
If you have a properly sized range hood, won’t that pull out the CO2? Maybe you just need to leave it running longer? I could see a CO2 meter helping with this.
Here’s a video explaining the pitfalls with hydrogen as a fuel https://youtu.be/f7MzFfuNOtY
Cashless societies terrify me. So easy to control people when you can decide what and with whom they can transact with.
> since as a general rule rail is cheaper than trucks

That's not the way to approach claims that a new tech/product is disruptive. General rules may not (and usually do not) apply.
> The enterprise world runs differently - deprecations have long timelines, are well-telegraphed ahead of time, and sudden deprecations may come with contractual penalties.

Is Chrome an enterprise product?

Because the whole Manifest v2 deprecation timeline was a debacle, considering many businesses run critical extensions. Originally Jan 2023 (without GP override), now June 2023.

https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/mv3/mv2-sunset/
I have cookbooks, both physical and in digital formats, but it's usually faster to do a web search, especially when I mostly need cooking time and temperature. Perhaps this will motivate me to finally get around the setting up a local search function for my electronic cookbook collection as the web is going to be less and less trustworthy.
I accidentlly bought the wrong thing the other day. It was in my cart and amazon removed it as it was no longer available from the seller and 'recommended' something else, same price, very similiar name.

When it arrived i realized what had taken place and tried to return it. Amazon charged me $20 for return shipping.

It was my mistake, exacerbated by amazon removing the item from my cart and offering a similar named item. I've used amazon for many years and only returned like 3 things in 10+ years and amazon always supplied a return shipping label.

Now they charge for it?

Adding insult to injury I ordered a replacement on Nov 24 and it wont get here until Dec 6 (originally Dec 12).

I could and should have just went to the local store, gotten the correct product which they have in stock for the same price and saved myself $20 and 2 weeks??
Some choices: https://european-alternatives.eu/category/cloud-computing-pl...
> . . . small claims courts . . .

That is one possible way to respond.

Another useful response is getting the media to publish a story and give AMZN a little public shame. It helps pressure the company to "do the right thing."

Best of all, people don't need to choose only one!

> . . . loyal customers . . . Amazon doesn't care about that . . .

Makes for an even better bad publicity story, though, doesn't it?
From Elon's previous comments, Hydrogen is fundamentally not scalable and uneconomical.
I'm working on this -- it will be a while till I get on Postgres (I really hope that's the managed DB you want), but I'd love to get you on the postgres beta list.
My point is, there are frameworks and languages for reasoning which are mature. But they require formalised input (e.g. code) and deliver formalised output.

As a language model, chatGPT can translate back and forth between natural language and those formal languages. Part of that ability is evident in the numerous examples that demonstrate how it writes or explains code.

The version of ChatGPT that is public is quite restricted; it can‘t browse the web or run code.

A version of chatGPT that can translate a logic query I to Prolog, run the code, and translate the result back to the user should be perfectly capable of logic reasoning.
You haven't seen The Wire?
Skeptic about what

You’re assuming that this will only be used when it’s perfect and in helpful ways

This will be used at scale THIS YEAR and every subsequent year to infiltrate social networks including this one and amass points / karma / followers / clout. And also to write articles that will eventually dwarf all human-generated content.

With this and deepfakes and image/video generation, the age of trusting or caring about internet content or your friends sharing online is coming to an end. But it will be a painful 10 years as online mobs and outrage will happen over and over since people think they’re reacting to their friends’ posts of real things.

No, forget violent killbots. Today’s tech puts the nail in the coffin of human societal organization and systems of decision making and politics over the next 10 years. And AI doesn’t have to be right about stuff to destroy our systems.

We’ve been analyzing the performance of ONE agent among say 9 humans at a poker table. But imagine untold swarms of them, being owned by competing groups, infiltrating ALL human content exchange.

Not much different than what happened in trading firms over the last 20 years. Bots will be WELCOMED because they perform better on many metrics but will F everyone on the others.
Absolutely. If it remains an alternative, it's fine. But if they try to force out physical cash completely in favor of CBDCs, you better be wary.
Can't wait for ARM VPSs.
As soon as I saw the "P" in their "guess where we're going" social media post, I was secretly hoping it was PDX!

Hetzner has been my absolute favorite infrastructure/cloud provider to date, it's criminally underrated. They've also got a great list of community tutorials for new sysadmins to peruse[0].

I like Hetzner so much I think it deserves a more varied managed service offering, so I'm building it[0].

[0]: https://community.hetzner.com/tutorials

[1]: https://nimbusws.com
Debunking Tesla's cherry-picked argument will take more time than it took Tesla's marketing team to cherry-pick their truck and train data to make the math work in their favour.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law
‘Defective’ pistol fires without touching trigger
> most of us are not Canadians with open amazon support tickets. So this is the wrong audience.

The overlap between Amazon customers and HN's audience is probably fairly high and this sort of thing can serve as a warning prior to doing business with a company.

> we will need A LOT of these articles, way more than all other articles combined, in order to correctly address all retail issues via HN

But that clearly isn't happening.

> once we get to that point, the whole HN system will break down as instead of "great, insightful articles", HN will just be the Amazon support desk ticketing website

It's a strawman, clearly this isn't happening so you can't draw the follow on conclusion.

> I am saying it's spam and meaningless to 99% of users and NOT what HN is meant to be for...

Then you're welcome to flag it, just as welcome as others are to upvote it. HN is lots of different things to lots of different people, if all you came for is 'great, insightful articles' then that's nice but with exactly one submission over the course of 3 years (about a company that I'm very much sympathetic to, so thank you for that submission) you could do more to make it so.
The source for 3DO DOOM, if anyone wants to take a crack at making it better: https://github.com/Olde-Skuul/doom3do
I've spent ~100k on Amazon and have been a Prime member since introduction. Last month, I canceled my membership and stopped using Amazon altogether. I've never had a problem returning product. But Amazon pivoted from a discount retailer to a premium retailer of convenience. In some cases, products are 3-4x the price of local retailers. I'd rather spend the money locally than pay a premium to Amazon.
>you could say part of the problem is ChatGPT literally "believes" everything it reads online

This is very much a problem with humans too.
We're not out to compete directly with WLED, we think it's great.

We wanted more control over the subsections of the connected LED string than WLED provides with its "segments" feature. For example, the outline of the Mini Tree is made up of four separate sections (it is interrupted by the eyes and the star), but is one single model from the point of view of the firmware and the API.

Also, the firmware will be written in MicroPython for easier customisation. We wanted to add some environmental sensors and a real-time clock to a standalone controller for another project in the works, and it also makes customising the controller much more approachable for beginners. Of course, you can still upload your own C/C++ instead.

Our lighting effect sequencer will also connect to our controllers automatically to orchestrate effects across a number of LED strings in time to arbitrary audio.

If you don't need to customise the on-board capabilities of controllers or orchestrate effects, then WLED is an excellent choice.
A charging network just requires some wire and electronics, everything is well understood and easy to do for experts in that field.

Hydrogen on the other hand, is difficult to keep contained and cold enough to remain in liquid form. Even NASA who has worked with it for 50 years with massive budget and engineering expertise constantly has problems with it. For instance one of BMWs hydrogen cars you are not allowed to park in a garage! As hydrogen is expected to leak from it. And current hydrogen gas stations still suffer from this challenge.

So hydrogen fuel cells do offer the advantage of better energy density for more range, but you have the dual difficulties of 1. how do I make the hydrogen efficiently AND cleanly and then 2. the infrastructure build out is actually as hard ad EV doubter think wires are.
Don Hertzfeldt's Simpsons couch gag seems to be prophetic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i2l-LQ-dXI
That's what I do. The old stuff is at work. It has mostly eliminated having to carry the rain gear.
I have been a little bit skeptic of exaggerated claims about AI, but I tried ChatGPT and I've been amazed. My trial was not searching for anything. I tried asking the AI to code an traffic capture program with DPDK. Funnily enough, it knew several alternatives to use the code. I could also ask him to fill in certain parts, add parsing code for the packets... It's definitely far better than a bunch of 8 year olds knowing how to use Google.
Well, with most salaries going to bank accounts it's half way there already, isn't it ?
So one should use chatGPT as a frontend to Google v1!
Canada has the same system (provincial level small claims courts).

This took place in Alberta so - https://albertacourts.ca/pc/areas-of-law/civil/claims
Lol. If you think 4chan discourse is anything like what ChatGPT outputs, you clearly haven’t spent much time there.

Further, given its history, why would they choose to train it on 4chan at all?
Your quote isn’t a prediction, but a direct observation of what occurred.
> When people start demanding refunds or even start a class-action suit

You can thank a clever lawyer for thinking of mandatory arbitration clauses that are making class-actions a thing of the past.
When the air starts feeling thin I simply open the window.
Remind me about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Indian_banknote_demonetis...

> On 8 November 2016, the Government of India announced the demonetisation of all ₹500 and ₹1,000 banknotes

> Several people were reported to have died from standing in queues for hours to exchange their demonetised banknotes.[180][181][182][183][184][185] Deaths were also attributed to lack of medical help due to refusal of demonetised banknotes by hospitals.[186][187][188]

> The exchange of banknotes was stopped completely on 25 November, although the government had previously stated that the volume of exchange would be increased after that date.

> The push for digital payments was one of the stated intentions of demonetisation.

So if someone missed this 17 days or has not managed to exchange their funds - then they would lost all their cash they were holding using demonetized banknotes.
MIRC rugpulling it's lifetime license agreement
That's why you have levels. Entry level software engineer/data scientist is still software engineer/data scientist. People have to start from somewhere.

Plus let me tell you that - not everyone wants to excel in a field some people may just want to do just enough. Not everyone is dreaming of mighty promotions and titles. And that's should be fine too. If you don't want such people - fix your interview/performance processes.
Any good implementation of a central bank digital currency should have some anonymity handling, or it's not really a good cash replacement (Unless the goal all along was monitoring, which of course will be the case in some countries). Being able to spend $500 on something without anyone knowing is important. As is not beig able to launder $5M without anyone noticing. "Tomatoes, not diamonds" is the key feature here.
Filmmaking devices have gotten cheaper consistently over the last ~50 years. I don’t know about you, but I think some pretty good movies have come out since 1970, especially by directors working on very low budgets.
Chatgpt 3 :

Benefits :

* Answers synthesis of first 10 links of "google search".

* Creates skeleton code

* Write technical and artistic content

* Create gist of large text and highlight important parts.

Drawbacks :

* No means to verify when things go wrong.
<3 Yes it's Postgres, email should be in the profile, would love to participate.
No. I tried but I couldn’t get through the very dense accents.

I forgot Breaking Bad. Sorry, my bad.
They have extremely impressive prices, but I've always been hesitant to use them for anything important because they've historically been known for very aggressively shutting down your service if their automated systems detect e.g. suspicious traffic.

The most recent and egregious example would be banning users who run cryptocurrency-related nodes, even if not mining, despite only mining and similar activities being prohibited in the ToS. Here's a reddit comment from the official account stating that trading is also prohibited: https://old.reddit.com/r/hetzner/comments/wucxs4/is_it_allow...

While banning mining is perfectly understandable (the data centers are likely built around an assumption of normal usage patterns and not 100% CPU 100% of the time, and at least one cryptocurrency is infamous for wearing out SSDs with its mining), banning trading bots, proof of stake, and the operation of nodes for blockchain analysis is extremely surprising, even if you have read the TOS. And like in the earlier cases I've heard about, the servers seem to have been blocked without warning.
Show HN: Ansilo is Postgres for building natural data APIs using SQL/MED
> What's the difference from a seat belt law?

You found a risk reducing law that probably does make sense. Very small investment (Volvo relinquished the patent, thanks Volvo) and very large benefit.

But this "their personal risk taking is my concern" argument of yours makes me shiver. I'd never want someone else's risk taking to be my concern: I've got more important stuff to attend to, thank God.
> you have to carry the helmet, have it with you at all times, before and after riding.

You need it when you're on your bike, riding it. I commuted by bicycle for 19 years and biked (or walked) almost everywhere (Arlington, VA - Washington, DC). When I rode to the store or to meet someone or to get something to eat, the helmet usually stayed with the bike. I never thought someone would steal just my helmet. I didn't bother to lock it up, although you can get a wire to pass through the helmet and lock it up with the bike.
I never understood this argument. It is not like governments can't tell the banks and payment processor not to accept payments or freeze all funds of certain people. Courts can already order automatic confiscation in cases like bankruptcies and so on.
How come the technical details of ChatGPT are (apparently) a secret?

I tried asking the model about its architecture and it told me that the details were proprietary.

Assuming the model was correct in its understanding, isn't this counter to what OpenAI are trying to do?
Yes, me too! (DO/H setup)
Founder here. As a backend developer, we often find ourselves designing beautifully encapsulated API’s for our app’s transactional features.
However when it comes to analytical data, we often leave that to data engineers to delve into the guts of our core db in order to ETL or virtualise the data for reporting.
And when we add/remove/change a column or table, we unknowingly break data pipelines or mess up reporting data downstream.

So I went about building a tool to expose analytical data through an explicit data contract, defined through a PostgreSQL schema, that can be documented, versioned and life-cycled like regular APIs but are still natural to consume by data engineers or analysts using SQL. It deploys as a sidecar alongside existing apps/databases so as to fit neatly within existing SDLC’s. The ultimate vision is that having multiple teams using Ansilo will naturally lend itself to a state where analytical data becomes an open ecosystem, similar to APIs, rather than the current tendency to end up as silos.

I thought the HN community may find it interesting, as it involved building a few somewhat novel components. To list a few:

- Generic framework for creating Postgres foreign data wrappers (FDW), supporting relational, NoSQL or file-based sources with advanced SQL push-down.

- Multi-protocol proxy for supporting native postgres protocol and HTTP connections over the same port.

- Zero-copy Rust-JDBC bridge over JNI.

Please let me know if you have any thoughts or questions. I’d love to hear any feedback!
Well this comment took a turn in the last few minutes.
The obvious answer is that deciding what to build is difficult, but that rather invites asking whether building lots of stuff at random and throwing it at the wall would have a better hit rate than building the right things.

Interesting angle is testing where successfully tying a "real program" to one of these AI tools would look a lot like a fuzz tester. Possibly a better one than the current state of the art.

Philosophically I'm not hugely worried about automating the wisdom of Wikipedia and Reddit for mass application. Seems more likely to rot than improve itself. But we'll see.