First of all, we dream of the same world. I myself am constantly teaching myself many things to achieve this dream for myself at the very least; but it's a long process.

That said, I would like to make very clear that I am not conflating 'liberty and thus freedom' or Libre as you put it with 'free of charge' or Gratis.

Thing is, anything government touches requires funds somehow, and pretty much (but not always) anything government pays for is being paid for via the populous somehow. Even in the case of 'printing money' or quantitative easing as they like to call it on the media; the incurred inflation is a payment we the populous must endure via higher prices and anything else that comes from it. So even if the cost via dollars is low or 'gratis', we still pay for it via some other form anyways/as well.

As I just said to the other fellow, "nothing, is free". I say that in double speak, because ultimately only nothing itself is free in entirety, but also nothing in life is ever truly free as in gratis as you put it.

Even the air we breath is not free, since by taking in a breath ourselves, we take a breath that could be the breath taken by someone else. it seems free (gratis) because we do not immediately pay for it out of pocket or in some mental or physical situation; but in due time with enough humans born and living on earth you can get ready to expect to pay to breath. Atmosphere will become a finite resource that we will need to pay for to breath, because we cannot get people to stop having children without stepping on their rights and liberty (libre).

I think this does well enough in showing I know the difference of libre and gratis. But you may still disagree. That's fine. I don't expect agreement on social media site and anything else of the like. I am merely sharing my opinion on the matter in language that is most likely to be understood by a majority of people. That means keeping things at a more understandable level for folk, and that means not getting pedantic about things like libre and gratis; though you are right that it matters.

See, I dream of yet another reality. One where no one is allowed to graduate high school until they can prove they have at least a grade 10 reading and writing level. As it is right now, most people only have something to sufficiently call a grade 6 level. And that's native speakers of the language, not foreign.

That's abysmal. And folk like you and me get to put up with it. That's the disgusting thing about it all.

But we instead focus on things like late stage capitalism; while people don't even know the proper definitions of the words they use. Example?

Proletariat, Bourgeoisies, and Sovereign; which of these are you? Which of these am I?

Due to the use of the French definitions by much of society today, and not the original latin ones from Rome, we get the confusion I am about to describe.

These words are used incorrectly by a lot of people, because they see themselves as 'the worker' and thus 'Proletariat'. But in reality, many of us 'workers' are living lives that put us in 'the middle class' in some form, which makes us 'Bourgeoisies' as per the original definition. And then there are the nincompoops who consider themselves Sovereign of the Land and stuff like that, but that's a whole new ball game. Sovereign by definition is 'the ruling class, or nobility'.

In reality, 'Proletarius' the root of Proletariat is the proper use of the term, which is 'lowest class'.

Many of us who would consider ourselves to be the Proletariat under the French definition would be incorrect by standards of the Romans, because we are not truly the lowest class. That belongs to the homeless. If you are sitting in a nice cozy abode with food in your belly and enough money to get by on a monthly basis or better; you are not the lowest class even if it feels like it.

Bourgeoisies doesn't have such a problem attached to it, since it's purely a French term as far as I understand. But it does have a root in the original term Bourgeois. The thing is that this is a good example of how words and definitions attached to them change over the times to suit the people, and not the original intent of the creators of those words. It has gone from 'middle class' to 'upper class'.

This is purely in my opinion just done by certain types in society who wish to push their agendas without coming up with good arguments to support them. So they change the rules instead. And it works, quite cleverly too; because many people aren't really that educated due to lack of paying attention in school and stuff like not holding kids back a grade or two when they really need to be.

And so we get situations like people mistaking corporatism with late-stage capitalism.

According to: http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/politics/diff...

> Capitalism is a social and economic system which recognizes individual rights, including the right to own properties and the possession of goods for the individual’s personal consumption. Corporatism, on the other hand, is a form of economy that was created as an option to socialism and intends to achieve social justice and equality without the need to take away private property from individual members of society. It stresses the positive role that government has in ensuring social justice while restraining social unrest as people look after their self-interests.

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Which of these sounds more familiar to today's situation?

Should be Corporatism would be your answer. But then, you could also say that Corporatism is just another facet of late stage capitalism, and I would not be in entire disagreement with you; since unbridled capitalism combined with misunderstandings of things like Liberty under the guise of positive and negative liberty... (which I disagree with as notions since there are no such things; only neutral liberty exists) will result in the very existence of Corporatism.

Anyways. To finish off. Sovereign: Latin term is Sover or 'above/super'. French and English terms combined French Soverain and English Regin to create Sovereign.

It's only meaning really is to denote that something is far above other things. It can technically be used to say things like "This is the best method to do this thing" replacing 'best' with sovereign or even as simple as sover. But it's such a dated use, and not really part of our lexicon anymore to the point where even spellcheck thinks it's a wrong word lol.

But due to its constant changing and misuse by people too proletarius in terms of use of language, the rest of us sover speakers of language get to deal with the situations that our voted and elected bourgeois push upon us.

By the original definition, I just used bourgeois wrong, but by the way it is used today, I used it correctly.

So don't misunderstand me here. I understand why you draw the difference between libre and gratis.

But because most people aren't educated properly to begin with, I use the common tongue they understand instead. I hope this all helps explain it thoroughly.