skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I'd imagine that those two are not a mutually exclusive set.

Besides, if a troll makes a reasonable point, does it matter that he was actually trolling? Truthfully it's snark that bothers me most - I can deal with someone being playful or contrary for the sake of it, but too much snark just triggers a very primal part of my brain that makes we want to start cracking skulls, and that's not very conducive to continuing the discussion.
That's part of being a human, right?

I am presented with another person's responses to my inputs in the form of communications, and I build a model of the person. Sometimes this model is correct, sometimes this model is incorrect. I might misjudge a person who is kind to my face as being decent, when behind my back they spread rumors and gossip. Similarly, I might have a coworker who always criticizes my approaches to problems, but is the first to stick up for me in meetings.

Sometimes you judge rightly, other times wrongly, and in either event life goes on (real or virtual). This is just part of the human condition--and trolls remind us of this fact and the fact that sometimes you can't tell.
Does PG see trolls today in the same light as he did in '98?
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Hey Matt, glad you found it, I thought the name is pretty intuitive right? :) (I'm the founder). Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks.
Ask HN: how do you read Hacker News on the iPad?
I recently got access to an iPad, and I'm looking for a good way to read HN on it. From what I've seen, it looks like the HN iPad apps are not that great (I think news:yc for iPhone is pretty good; the iPad apps don't seem to compare).

If you read HN on the iPad, what do you use?
That's more accurate than you know. A down voted comment doesn't mean it's a bad comment. Simply that it doesn't adhere to what the community deems as right. This defeats the purpose of shading out the comments. Since the quality of a comment can't be determined by it's color, you have to read it yourself.

Karma has evolved to merely mean: I don't post unpopular opinions.

This is merely anecdotal, of course, and should go without saying (but needs to be said here). I see this happening with other people's comments far more often. It's a shame that while we removed karma from posts, we still display and indicator of the groupthink to the world.

In the end, a comment should either be displayed, or flagged and removed.
The article (and that statistic) is from 2008.
One of my hobbies is reading a lot of history, and I don't see much support for this narrative. American politics has long been really nasty. Take a look at the 19th century presidential campaigns: there is some pretty shrill stuff in there. The 1828 election in particular was really nasty. And people regularly fought duels---actually shot each other---over politics. Political brawls were not uncommon. A Congressman beat one of his colleagues with a cane on the floor of Congress itself!

Even today, offline culture somehow seems more nasty/violent to me than online culture. It's not only in movies that people get into bar fights over stupid things. They not only yell at each other, but actually punch each other, and occasionally stab or smash bottles over each others' heads. It's a crazy world out there.
Look at the flip side: consider all the companies standing against SOPA/PIPA right now. Do you want to prevent them from even drawing attention to the issue? Do you want to prevent employees from taking any steps at all to raise awareness among like-minded people, many of which might work at the same company?
I certainly agree with the idea of doing a side project. Mine wasn't a resume, but it was something I was trying to turn into a startup. That alone got me lots of interviews.

I went through the "Who's Hiring" thread on HN for a couple of months and wrote custom emails to of companies at places I'd like to work and was willing to immediately relocate to. Mailing folks through the HN thread worked MUCH better than hitting the HR slush pile. The side project I developed served as a catalyst to get me into many interviews, even if it was just for a phone screen. Eventually I landed a great position at my current employer.

In summary, develop something you can show people that's the direct result of your efforts. Be willing to show them source code. Also get right through to someone who can get things done. The Who's Hiring thread is a great way to do that and works much better than HR submissions. Another source (and the one that eventually worked for me) was programming conferences. I found my current position at PyCon.
It was written in 2008 :) now the latest we have is about 120k i guess.
Yes, but I don't consider revisiting ideas "pivoting".

http://www.quora.com/Pivoting-business-strategy/How-do-you-d...
> Multiple return values are not tuples

Multiple return values are a special case of tuples. Hence the "conceptually" part.

> Go doesn't have tuples in the type system.

Could you explain how you managed to completely miss the part where I say exactly that?
$1 + 20% equity. 20% equity is huge especially considering he will no longer work the project. That is 1/5th of the company.
Great video, Thanks for Sharing!!
Almost every day I use HN, I wonder why it hasn't implemented collapse-able comments, comment sorting by rank, and auto-collapsing comments.

I understand this could introduce agreement bias, but I feel like that's something that could be fixed by tweaking the numbers (i.e. only auto-collapse comments with -20 votes).

As it is now, it's easy to game the comments thread by piggybacking off the top comment of a post. This can be abused for trolling or just plain discussion visibility (unfairly, IMO).
People who bitch about trolling might as well bitch about cold weather or inconsiderate drivers. Yeah, it's not always fun, but it is just the way things are and will be. You can't remove the human factor.
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Allowing people to chat on Facebook with counselors could make it easier to open up about your issues.
They may find this useful at first, but if they weigh social media heavily wouldn't it be too easy to game to be useful in the long run? It isn't that hard to have 2 Facebook or twitter accounts.
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> The process is seemingly held hostage to whoever can scream the loudest.

Some might say that the kabuki theater of American politics is now exposed for the facade that it is given how corrupt and captured our system really is... in fact, the corporatist coup happened a long time ago, and only with the Internet (ie, electronic interaction) is this layer peeled back and exposed.
OK, then I don't get it. Why do you want to pay a remote employee less than on-site? This is assuming that your company was amenable to the idea in the first place.

The employee off site is actually cheaper than on-site. Theoretically, you should be willing to pay more, not less.

If the employee is not manageable off-site then you have a problem but an offer can be made conditionally that the first 3 months are a trial and if it doesn't work, then you are canned.

Why is off-site worth less money?
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Is [DNS Hosting Provider] DNSMadeEasy?

4 of my domains seem to be part of this attack. The DNS query spike started on the date mentioned in your links and I really didn't know what was going on. Daily hits went from tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands.

To avoid going over my monthly quota at DME I was forced to move DNS for those 4 domains off my account and to my web hosting company.

I wish I had seen your post here earlier!
The problem with that is that you then end up in the second pile when we sort job offers (and at present there are plenty of jobs) -- and we know it so we know that your employees are more likely to be second rate, the kind who couldn't get a job at the non-hoop companies.

No programming interview process is perfect, and the small homework assignment should be accompanied by due diligence on both sides — technical interviewing by the company, background research of the company and/or founders by the candidate, etc. Interpreting a small, reasonable homework assignment as a sign that the company only hires second-rate programmers is a fast jump to a very pessimistic conclusion.

That said, one recent candidate wrote us very angrily that he was pursuing N other companies and didn't have time to do any "silly" homework assignment. He claimed that the very-domain-specific, open-source project he maintains should be enough of a coding example. I felt that was fine; if he didn't want to spent a small amount of time to complete a small request from us (and possibly show off a little) and return the favor the time _we_, a company of <10 people, were spending on _him_, it probably wasn't a good fit anyway.
So, corrupt banks corrupted some politicians. Again.

And, now I read that Goldman Sachs is literally hoarding aluminum in gigantic warehouses to manipulate the market.

I wonder when people start to realize that concentrating money like this is not a good idea.
I have to admit this post was a bit pre-mature as there is nothing set up to support this yet. I just wanted to collect some feedback around this idea to hear what others think. I will have a follow-on post once I have something in action so follow me @jaequery if you want to keep tabs on the project.
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There is a couple more cases which add to the mix.

1) Devils advocate. People that interject with an opposing view, even one they don't believe. I often do this one myself cause another poster to go into deeper description. Often just asking for an deeper response will be ignored, but opposing a view will always bring out an argument.

2) Denial and Righteousness. Essentially nasty fan boys. People who have brought into a belief and refuse to acknowledge any second point of view at all. I had this explained at a trolling seminar at a hacking conference quite well and they picked on the audience themselves to explain how to manipulate IT people.

With most IT people they have the myers-briggs archetype finishing with --TJ. This means they are thinkers and judgmental. They will look at a problem, find the evidence, evaluate it, and make a judgmental decision on what is correct. The facts don't lie.

However the facts can be like quantum variables, you chang angles and then entire structure changes. Making judgmental calls leads to obvious one set of true factual analysis being completely wrong in another setting.

Challenging a judgmental person is challenging there core makeup. Saying they are wrong undermines there very basic personality, drawing on the opposing variable to "thinking" on the myers-briggs scale "feeling". So intelligent people do not react with intelligence first.

Instead of reacting with an "oh ok I didn't realize that was the case in your area" they respond with a protective "I don't think so Tim" and things go down hill from there, especially if the second person is also judgmental.

3) Tribalism. This is the us vs them mentality. Either you are with us or against us. A non ordained view/comment against a group of people who maybe self validating can be seen as a extremely contrasting. Becomes the group has created a false sense of security it can draw out primal responses (like feeling over thinking mentioned above) when that sense of security is threatened.

Many groups become polarising and when confronted with opposing views become more and more fundamental, close ranks. This often forms tight knit groups but also leads to a side effect of making everyone an enemy, including people with in the group who aren't are right as they should be, or people with neutral opinions.

There was an article I read a week or two go about how to talk skeptically to people. If I can find it I'll post it. It addresses how to oppose a view and avoid the bottom two responses.
Trolls can play an important role in discussion but often only when they play devils advocate. I think 75% of trolling is bruised ego's lashing out.
I don't know the numbers for the ML class and the format is a bit different, however, for DB class from the many people that were signed up only 9180 took the midterm[1] and (only 908 got scores >= 18/20) <- That is wrong, final had 20 questions, midterm had 18. So that's 908 people who scored 18, 2082 with 17 or over and 3428 with 16 or over.

So if ML numbers are in any way similar to this maybe it wouldn't be so bad. That is if there was such a letter.

I'll add that Professor Widom's style is quite engaging as well.

[1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLtUKf4Y99w#t=2m09s
Yeah, well probably most trolls don't ever get that karma, so they troll instead.

Also karma doesn't count for a lot here (that being one exception). Ultimately, a good karma system should simulate the what happens in the best real world environments....where there is a very complex feedback loop that reinforces the sort of behavior we want and suppresses that which we don't want. In my opinion Slashdot comes kind of close, but it has huge flaws itself.
That's not really true. In tight knit online communities it is very easy if not completely effortless to ban trolls. There are various ways to handle trolls and they all have value, as trolling is often purely a negative thing.
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VERY good engineering/thinking/development happens here.

I was in a recruitment process with them back when I really wanted to make an immediate west coast jump, and the intelligence/competence across the board for their collective is simply unmatched.
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At the risk of being accused of trolling:

Am I the only one here that believes that running water is a luxury, not a right?

I've been in some pretty shitty situations myself, though none as tough as this. That much I freely admit. But the overall tone of the article seems to be one of horror that people might not have a ceramic toilet which flushes the waste away to a sewage treatment plant. Also, an attitude of "This is a first world country; this shouldn't be happening to anyone". (Yes, I noticed the sidebar on "corruption")

Does everybody else think that running water/sewage is a right?
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It is truly offensive to what black africans endured under apartheid, to compare Israel with South Africa. My guess is that the people who say such things have never visited Israel and never visited South Africa under apartheid.

'African-American student leaders from a variety of historically black colleges and universities took out full page ads in numerous American college newspapers Thursday, displaying an “Open Letter to Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP),” to convey that they were offended by SJP’s use of the term “apartheid” at recent Israel Apartheid Week events at campuses across the country.'

http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=215811

Ever wonder where a millenium of European anti-semtism disappeared to following 1945? It transmogrified itself into prejudice against Israel.

There are countries that truly are comparable to apartheid (e.g. Saudi Arabia, where non-muslims are not permitted to enter Mecca). But it is always democratic Israel that gets equated with apartheid, not undemocratic, discriminatory Saudi Arabia.
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I like this idea and I'd love to contribute to it! When you get the repo set up, be sure to re-post.
I can do no better than to quote the inestimable David "Pardo" Keppel:

There's no shortage of smart, hardworking engineers. There's a shortage of smart, hardworking engineers willing to work for very little money.

If you're having trouble hiring, it's probably because you're not paying enough. It turns out that talented people are worth paying a lot for.
Likely they look at everything, not just the graded portions, to come up with that kind of split. So if you got 100% on every quiz the first time, every homework and test you'd be in that group. If you flubbed the quizzes here and there, probably not.

They will also probably look closely at that optional programming assignment as well.

I knew there was a reason Google let Peter Norvig take the time to do this ;)
No heuristic is perfect, but the question is whether this situation is common enough to swamp the general informational effects. So, three possibilities:

1. Adam Sandler will pay a fractionally higher interest rate.
2. The heuristic will route around this situation.
3. Banks that blindly apply this heuristic will lose money on Sandler because they make a comparatively unattractive offer; the bank that lends to him will get higher market share by being less cautious or more careful in this instance.

Keep in mind that we're talking about an edge case among edge cases. Authors are a tiny minority of social networking users. And authors whose fandom is a contrarian indicator of their creditworthiness are even rarer. Actually, it would more likely work in the other direction: I bet poets published in the New Yorker have very creditworthy friends and still have trouble paying the rent.
There are few feelings on this Internet better than the one you get while "spending" points on something that needs to be said.
I think the reason that troll behavior seems so much worse online is because most of us spend our time in environments where trolls are self-selected out. Assuming that most of us don't regularly deal with assholes in our work and home life, the place we're most likely to interact with them is online forums.

I'm not sure that anonymity or distance are the driving factors in online trolling. Most of the assholes I know have no problem saying mean spirited things when they're standing right next to me. I think the bigger issue is that it's easy for me to avoid those assholes in real life. In an online setting, I can't see them coming and they are Legion...for every one that we vote down, two more will rise up to take its place.

I understand Paul's frustration, but I don't know if we'll be able to find a technical solution. I think this is just one of the drawbacks (balanced by many benefits) of unfiltered communication.
Great project. My granddaughter and I are learning to use it together. She knows that I worked in the entertainment industry for 2 years and when we were driving home from seeing "Puss and Boots" she wanted to know how to do 3d graphics (she is good with Scratch - a good start).

One tip: don't try to use it on a Mac without a 3 button mouse.
In some ways I do too, having been an early /. user.

However, I think HN supports truly funny comments, but they have to be original, creative, and slightly non-obvious. I've made a few valueless pithy comments that got a decent amount of up-votes, and I've seen others do the same thing.

But, repeated and reused jokes aren't met with much enthusiasm here, so you don't get the same memes developing like you did on /. There is practically no spin on "a beowulf cluster of these" (or similar) that would ever fly here.

Overall, I'm pleased with HN's handling of humor-based comments.
On KDE 4.7 (or 4.5+, but there's no reason to use older versions) multiple monitors work exactly how I want them to. It's great.

The only issue is that there is no shortcut for moving windows from screen to screen by default; however, you can set it to be whatever you want from the settings so it isn't much of an issue.

And, unlike OS X, KDE actually has a great full screen mode. I've found that having a fullscreen browser (or two side-by-side) on one monitor and a full screen Emacs on the other is my perfect layout.
It took me 2.5 months to interview start to finish with a several mil backed startup, and I had to constantly bother them to set up my interviews despite they had a person recruiting full time. Compare this with an top company in the valley I interviewed with and the process was streamlined and only 1 month. Both included on-site interviews.

I think the problem is every startup is making up their own hiring formula/process, and until it is internally figured out, anyone who tries to interview will get delayed. Product is being developed PLUS they have to figure out their perfect hiring process... That being said, luck with timing is also important in interviewing for a startup IMO.
I've been thinking about elevator algorithms lately too. My building applies the principle of least privilege to the elevator - residents are issued fobs which give them access to the floor where they live, plus any common areas. The problem is that waving the fob in front of the sensor pad before pressing the button for your floor takes a bit of time, and in that time, it's possible that someone else, somewhere in the building, will press the button to call the elevator. When that happens, the elevator may change it's direction. A race condition!

For example, you're on the 10th floor and want to go to the first floor. You press the down button. The elevator arrives, with it's "going down" arrow lit. You get on, and as you fumble with your fob, someone on the 18th floor presses the down button. The elevator now has a call on the 18th floor, and no destinations yet, because you haven't pressed the "1" button. Now you have a choice: press "1" and ride the elevator up to 18, knowing that it'll (eventually) go down to 1, or get off the elevator press "down" in the hope that another elevator will arrive before this one gets back. Of course, it's very likely that you don't notice the "going up" arrow, because you're fumbling with your fob.

I'm finding this happens surprisingly often, and I think it's a bug.
"...been in some pretty shitty situations myself..."

I see what you did there.
I read it the same way as on my laptop, in the browser directly.

On the iphone you really want optimization of the interface, especially for the up/dow arrows, but on the ipad it's easier to get used to the form factor, and eventually you won't bother with a dedicated app I think.

Even if you want special features like instapaper/read it later integration, offline reading or tweeting, an advanced browser app can do the job, and more.
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Ask HN: Patent for your idea?
Just wondering at what point do you file patent for your idea.

Also, is there a way to find out if someone else have filed provisional patent for the same idea?
More reporting on the same unrest:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/guangdong-...
HN is a good example, I'm not afraid to post an idea, a response, or understanding, here. I know that if I'm wrong, but I presented my thought well with reasoning, I'll receive an honest and intelligent response as to why I am wrong or why someone differs in opinion. That's trust. Trust in a community to respect each other.
Actually, studies really show there's no difference between hands-free and hand-held. See e.g. http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/DrivingIssues/2006083010503...

I assume the obvious physical limitation makes at least some drivers more aware that they should keep some focus on the road.
mm so the Google developers who put their names to the published APIS are out of luck then :-0