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I just tried to upload some photos that facebook hasn't seen yet with or without EXIF info (obviously no or invalid geotagging) and tried geo-tagging some photos I already have uploaded and Facebook hasn't made any suggestion whatsoever. Perhaps I found a way to switch it off but I've just checked the settings and none of the options seems to be concerned with suggestions for geotagging
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>> The SMS is disabled on that version as I have no intention of subsidising peoples' group-messages

If you are interested in advancing that project, you may want to consider sending the SMS messages via email, which would be free. Each user would need to define their gateway when they set up their account. Many carriers have SMS gateways, and an easy way to translate a phone number into an email address that delivers by SMS.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SMS_gateways
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I've always been a developer on the Microsoft stack. I'm looking at getting into indie game development and was wondering what path to take. Is the time right for focusing on HTML5 and javascript for building games - or is building for a specific platform such as Win 7 Phones or iPhone still a better approach? I'm thinking of building simple platform and adventure games rather than crazy 3d racing car simulators :)
I needed to do this a few months ago, this could have been really helpful. What I did instead, was export one Gmail contact to CSV, import that into Google Docs Spreadsheet, then create a form there that people can fill out (with just the fields I needed) and send that off to their email. Once collected, I could easily sanitize the data, use it for my offline mailing (announcement card in this case) and export it back into Google Contacts (now I have the info always on my phone, etc).
It's probably a combination of techniques to be honest. They do have some unprecedented access to contextually heavy data, as well as an unusually large base of free labor to supervise the learning...

My creepy moment came when It correctly pointed out the exact location of this photo:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40127665@N03/4788700749/in/set-...

I was in the middle of Costa Rica. For fear of roaming charges my phone was not on, and I never made a status update. The photo was taken on a D40 at the time, so no location exif data, and frankly the the picture is kind of generic.

My best guess is it used the other photos in the album to gain contextual information. For example this photo was in the same album:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40127665@N03/4789329722/in/set-...

this, to me, would be extremely easy to recognize.
Is that on your 20%? I noticed you use Lua :)
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But why that whole technology for just making a Suggestion? There is something else they are working on...something really BIG and a complete game changer I guess.
Just checked this.

I took some pics on a regular digital camera (no GPS) in Indore. I uploaded them from New Delhi a few weeks later. And now FB is asking me "Were these pics taken in Indore?". Crazy shit.

Update - I dug through my FB updates. Just before leaving for airport, I updated my status to "Off to Indore" and after coming back to New Delhi, I had some status updates about my office and a local park. Facebook is probably using the the timestamps from image and relating it to locations using some heuristics like status updates, IP addresses, image recognition etc.
It's also a refreshing way to think about jobs and keep t6hem new.Personally when I take a new job I like to think about how long it will take for me to get the organisation in a position that they won't need me any more. It gives me a degree of control I enjoy, it leaves me with a grateful employer and some achievements on my CV that the next employer will like. "Why did you leave?" I had done my job.

I'm desparately trying to remember who it was who wrote the article about how - when employing someone new - you should explicitly work with them on the assumption that they won't be around for ever - so what do they want to achieve while they are there and what do you want them to achieve. It muight have been Joel, but I can't find it. Anyone?
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Regarding your Chamonix images, perhaps your friends uploaded photos taken at roughly the same time, with geo-tags?

Nope. Family holiday. Of those there I am the only one with photos on Facebook - and in fact at the time was the only family member with a Facebook account :)

I am intrigued because if it is image recognition there isn't much for them to have gone on. But I am stumped for what else they could have used.
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Re: "brain-damaged abstractions" - you reminded me of a coworker who could be called a "designeer" (he's a good programmer but he also does decent UI/UX).

The problem is, he ignores deadlines because he hates the brain dead abstractions and bad code, and decides to unilaterally refactor.

I feel sorry for him because I understand that he can't stand the sloppy code, he is working with nimrods and mediocre people (and awful tools), what he should do is quit. (some of the mediocre code is, I admit, mine, I've stopped caring and I just want to build a nest egg to quit)
In your opinion, how would Facebook know your location if you never logged in from a GPS-enabled smart phone? (and never approved an HTML5 geo permission request on your laptop).

That's the interesting question here.
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That is true. Mere statistical analysis on the word count on articles you prefer to read will give a very accurate insight into your interests and mindset. Facebook has access to this data through the "Like" button trojans that exist on many websites. If anything, they haven't been very impressive in putting this data to work yet (or I would be seeing a hell of a lot better targeted ads than currently).
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I thought google has more interesting data about all those.
Indeed, with all the Facebook sharing buttons around the web they have more than your bookmarks too, they have the equivalent of uploading your browser history each day to them. With current machine learning technology, let alone improvements over the coming years, they'd know more or less what someone would know if they stood behind every time you were browsing for the last few years.

Even if you were to cancel your account you'd turn up in photos of parties on other people's accounts and they'd follow pretty well you after you'd left too. With their dodgy history, Zuckerberg's contempt for his own users as evidenced by his quotes, the idea that this won't be abused is laughable. Given national security letters (NSL) it's almost certain the intelligence community has access. Hell you could hit a mid-level admin at one of their data-centers with a NSL and the top level management and legal wouldn't even be aware that there are outside entities with a connection to their database. That's to say nothing of the extra-legal capacities of these people.

While people like to think that it's more or less anonymized clusters and demographics that are being passed to advertisers to target ads better - not a terribly scary thought, just more relevant ads - I think we need to be far more cautious.
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I was freaked out too, but I had relevant names for those albums like Turkey, Shillong, etc.
I rather like the fact that DataTables doesn't try and solve the whole problem (front end and server back end) - otherwise you end up with things like ASP.Net server controls and DataGrids which are really just an attempt to port desktop development approaches to the web - creating an unpleasantly leaky abstraction along the way.

I find that using DataTables as front end and hooking it up to a backend is pretty straightforward and results in a nice separation of concerns - let the server/database worry about paging, sorting, searching and filtering. Of course, if you have a relatively small amount of rows then just let DataTables do all the work - but at least you have the choice.
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They spent a long time talking about this, at the expense of more interesting questions she could have asked PG. Especially more interesting to people interested in startups.

It is a serious issue though, 96/4 men to women is a really bad ratio. And my guess is that the ratio of white and asian to hispanic and black is even worse. So startups miss out on a huge potential talent pool and the perspective of people who might approach problems in a different way. And at the same time women and minorities are largely failing to take advantage of a really exciting opportunity.

PG is probably right, the bulk of the problem is that thirteen year old girls / black kids are not playing with computers. So maybe this is a question that would be better directed at parents or teachers, but it definitely should be on the radar. It is a problem that can be solved, that we should solve, and is a good thing for people watching Bloomberg / people doing startups to think about.
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well they can do a best guess based on the location of your IP, even if you only sign into facebook once while you're travelling. The really interesting question is: can they do this even if you have not signed into facebook at all on your travels, or for totally new accounts with no location history at all.

If they can, then they must be doing image recognition in some way. Perhaps someone who has more time / energy than me could try this by creating a new account and uploading some photos of recognisable objects (but without exif geo data).
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Be pretty funny to see a load of blog posts about saving pigs, due to help from players!

I've possibly had too much coffee this morning..
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I didn't see this. Python3 will become the default on many OS. The real problem here is that Python3 has done significant damage to Python's popularity.
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Well if the accuracy is 95% why not turn all Facebook users into one huge mechanical turk batch process to get to 99.9%? And it's just convenient for people not to have to tag.

Then you have the data sitting around for mapping the insides of all buildings like Google has it for street view. Sure your Asimo-style robot butler/"something really BIG" will be that more efficient with internal mappings of most public spaces when you release it in 2030, but the convenience is sufficient. Remember that Facebook beat Myspace more or less on interface (combined with a few other factors like exclusivity), they aren't going to let Google or some other competitor get ahead of them by having an interface convenience edge of 5-10% which might cause a Myspace-to-Facebook style exodus. Kings who have committed regicide on their predecessor are all too aware of how they got into power.
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In my team it's currently about even, but more and more switch over to Android. 1 year ago i was the only guy with an Android phone. Now it's even.
It's not perfect yet -- Facebook knows that I went to university in Cambridge (UK) but keeps asking me if photos from my undergraduate years were taken in Cambridge (Massachusetts).
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Immature, but I really loved this comment/idea and wonder about the feasibility of such attacks:

"You know what this means:

Time to rewrite your EXIF info and location bomb the hell out of popular attractions. Eiffel Tower in Paris? Nope, it's in Iowa ..." [1]

Possible? Google bomb with a twist?

1: http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/nkktm/facebook_is_reall...
Heh, maybe its fragmented android that will accelerate the dominance of the mobile web.
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Could you expand on the differences you see? Is it API-wise? (I'd expect WP7 tooling to be better than iOS's, though I have not yet had the occasion to try Xcode 4 I kind-of doubt it leapfrogged VS2010, except on the UI side maybe where IB and bundles have always been pretty nice) Is it the communities/help around them? Third-party resources? Something else?

And which ecosystem did you come from before iOS and WP7?

(disclaimer: I'm not a Windows or WP7 dev, and I only dabbled a bit in iOS dev)
A test that might fool this. You will need:
1. A facebook status update/checkin/access from a particular location.
2. A photo taken without EXIF data at around the same time as the update/checkin/access above, but from a completely different location.

Upload the photo using your facebook account. Check whether they get the location right. If yes, the mystery continues. If no, but the location is somewhere other than where you updated your status/checked in from, the mystery deepens. Else, they're pairing the times together.
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> If you can push all your data to the front-end all at once, yes. DataTables makes this pretty straightforward.

Paginagtion(ajax or page reload takes care of it). I use slickgrid https://github.com/mleibman/SlickGrid; pagination is straight forward, filtering takes some work. But do the hook once, and wrap the table in jquery-ui css framework's ui-widget, and you have a good looking, working table.

> but that's just a way of saying "DataTables doesn't itself solve this problem".

slickgrid is sortable, but filtering needs work. In fact, "slickgrid doesn't do everything" is part of its philosophy.

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I've seen both extremes on my photos. One set it suggested the nearby town, which was creepily accurate; another it asked "were these taken in England, Arkansas" which was a hilariously poor guess. Weirdly, they managed the difficult part (figuring out the photos were taken in "England" without any obvious clues) but then failed to sensibly geolocate it.
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Looks great and tooling might be a reason for me to try to pick up Scala again.

But part of the post (supporting 3 different versions Scala versions, with different IDE branches for each and the combinatorial result) resonated with me and reminded me of the recent (?) article about the inability of mixing libraries compiled with different versions of Scala.

If someone from the team is here: How hard is this problem affecting the IDE project?
Simply not making a status update isn't enough. You'd have to never visit a page with a Facebook like button from a computer which you'd used ever to log in to Facebook with.

I'm yet to be convinced that this feature requires actually analysing image content at all. GeoIP and time stamps alone can provide a huge amount of context before you even start on things like mobile clients providing location data.
maybe Facebook just randomly guesses locations. those who get matches write comments on reddit wondering how the hell it works and those that get weird suggestions ignore them :)
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I guess Google learned from the patent war on smartphones and they'll be better prepared against the auto industry.
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Wow. Maybe they have a bunch of people looking at pictures, manually making suggestions? Google "similar images" search-like tool? It does sound scary if they really had nothing to go on other than the image data.
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Back in SVN days I used SmartSVN (http://syntevo.com/smartsvn/index.html ) on Windows, Linux and Mac. Free version was enough for my needs.
Had you test it with a huge amount of blocks ?
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