skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> Teens don't have as much experience with communities going to shit, or with spaces like the workplace where you're collectively responsible for the smooth running of the group. They're hot-headed and can cause one bad experience to snowball where an adult might forgive and forget.

Some people, not just teens of course, feel utterly compelled to go tit-for-tat, to retaliate in kind. Even if you can get them to cool down and back off for a while, and have a civil conversation with you about disengaging, they may tell you that they're going to retaliate against the other person anyway at a later date, in cold blooded revenge, because they have to. That necessity seems to be an inescapable reality for such people. They feel they have no choice but to retaliate.

When two such people encounter each other and an accident is mispercieved as an offense, what follows is essentially a blood feud. An unbreakable cycle of retaliation after retaliation. Even if you can get to the bottom of the original conflict, they'll continue retaliating against each other for the later acts of retaliation. The only way to stop it is to ban one if not both of them. Moderation sucks, never let somebody talk you into it.
My guess is a minimum of 5-10x more expensive at scale.

Sugar is really cheap, especially if you don’t mind which particular local source you use (sugar cane, corn syrup, etc).
People own companies. Just like people own tvs, computers, phones. Do you ever go to someone and say "hey, are you using your phone in the way that's best for humanity?"
Ok you got me, that wording was lazy on my part. But that's a really bad take on yours:

> It was trained on OSS which is explicitly licensed for free use.

That's not what the lawsuit is about. It's not about money, it's about licensing. OSS licenses have specific requirements and restrictions for using them, and Copilot explicitly ignores those requirements, thus violating the license agreement.

The GPL, for example, requires you to release your own source code if you use it in a publicly-released product. If you don't do that, you're committing copyright infringement, since you're copying someone's work without permission.
So a wealthy bot farmer rules this system?
Most companies building commercial products on top of FOSS are obeying the license requirements. (I have been through due diligence reviews where we had to demonstrate that, for each library/tool/package.)

The same cannot be said for Copilot: there have been prior examples here on HN showing that it can emit large chunks of copyrighted code (without the license).
What is your mom's average daily calorie count?
This post made me curious about which plug type is used in Antarctica. Looks like it's type C (same as most of Europe)

http://www.bergadventures.com/v3_main/trip-preparations/elec...
I've been in plenty of discussions where a cited source exists as a basis to work toward nothing.

It's a common tactic to use citations to get the person you are arguing with to walk in circles. It's a war of attrition: eventually the other party gives up on deconstructing and criticizing your citations, and you claim victory. This is closely related to the "ball is in your court" fallacy.

But if both parties are actually invested in critical thought, citations can be an opportunity instead of a roadblock. That still requires the effort of everyone involved.
> Twitter users run the marketing department

If that were the case why is Twitter ad spend in the low single digits for most companies.
"as necessary to provide the Service, including improving the Service over time."
"IVM has been proven to be a scam treatment." By whom? To whose benefit (it's off-patent)?

"It is known not to work". Says who, exactly? [0][1]

IVM actually does have a multi-modal effect on SARS-2 [2]

[0] https://c19ivm.org/adoption.html

[1] https://www.cureus.com/articles/111851/

[2] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-021-00491-6
I got a Palm in 2002 for school, but only every played games on it. Sold it and bought a Gameboy Advance. I still have it and use it :D
> Almost everything on GitHub is subject to copyright,

Agreed. Like I said, it's about intent. Can anyone say with a straight face that copilot is an elaborate scheme to profit by duplicating copyrighted work?

I don't think the defense is that it wasn't trained on copyrighted data. It obviously was.

I think the defense is that anything, including a person, that learns from a large corpus of copyrighted data will sometimes produce verbatim snippets that reflect their training data.

So when it comes to copyright infringement, are we moving the goalposts to where merely learning from copyrighted material is already infringement? I'm not sure I want to go there.
That sucks for little snippets of software though, doesn’t it? It’s like copyrighting individual dance moves (not allowed under the current system) and forcing dancers to never watch each other to make sure they’re never stealing.
(Not a lawyer, so this is really definitely absolutely not legal advice and if you're looking to profit you should speak to a lawyer... for instance the lawyers who just filed the lawsuit)

They're asking for two things, injunctive relief (ordering github/openai/microsoft to stop doing this) and damages.

I suppose the injunctive relief really benefits anyone who doesn't want AI models to exist, because that's what it's asking for.

The damages will go the members of the class certified for damages, with more going to the lead plaintiffs (those actually involved in the suit) and some going to the lawyers. They're asking for the following class definition for damages

> All persons or entities domiciled in the United States that, (1) owned an interest in at least one US copyright in any work; (2) offered that work under one of GitHub’s Suggested Licenses; and (3) stored Licensed Materials in any public GitHub repositories at any time during the Class Period.
> We can model all the protons, electrons and photons incredibly accurately.

We can't even accurately model a receptor protein on a cell or the binding of its ligands, nor can we accurately simulate a single neuron.

This is one of those hard problems in computing and medicine. It is very much an open question about how or if we can model complex biology accurately like that.
> There is not a understood natural phenomenon which we could not capture in math.

Does the brain fall in into the category of “understood natural phenomenon”? Is it “understood”? What does “understood” mean in this context?
This is the standard content display license that everyone uses. Even in your quoted text I don't see any hint that snippets can be shown without attribution or the code license.

It also says they can't sell the code, which CoPilot is doing.

Also, in a very high number of cases it isn't the author who uploads.

Repeating your line of argumentation (which occurs in every CoPilot thread) does not make it true.
Is CBL-Mariner going to become Microsoft Linux?
Well, `curl` will download a gist without checking its license. So curl is infringing?
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When the CEO is the majority shareholder of a company it's a different calculus. Shareholders and the board are the two entities that can hold CEOs accountable. If they are one and the same nobody can hold the CEO accountable except customers via boycott.
One of the authors here! I think from a perspective of humans playing Go this result is not very interesting since, as you say, Tromp-Taylor isn't the kind of ruleset humans like to play under. But KataGo was trained under (modified) Tromp-Taylor which we also evaluate under, so we think from an AI security and robustness stand point it's interesting that it fails at the rule set it was trained on.

> When they induce KataGo to play bad moves, like Lee Sedol did in the only game he won against AlphaGo, they'll have my attention.

That said, we are working to do exactly this! In particular, we found in the paper that we could patch the victim to not pass except in the end-game and defeat this adversarial policy. But, when we repeat the attack, we do eventually find an adversarial policy that can exploit the victim -- and this doesn't depend on the rule set. That part is still a work in progress, we've only got it working against a victim without search for example, but we hope to put out an updated revision including this in a month or two!
I was in the same boat. Now feeling lucky I didn't make that mistake.

Makes you wonder how much of this has to do with fraud and spam mitigation. It must be bad enough that they are throwing out the baby...
Host that code. Serve that code to other users. It does not grant the right to create derivative works of that code outside the purview of the code's license. That would be a non-starter in practice; see every repository with GPL code not written by the repository creator.

Whether the results of these programs is somehow Not A Derivative Work is the question at hand here, not "sharing". I think (and I hope) that the answer to that question won't go the way the AI folks want it to go; the amount of circumlocution needed to excuse that the not actually thinking and perceiving program is deriving data changes from its copyright-protected inputs is a tell that the folks pushing it know it's silly.
Social media as we know it is over
I've worked at a company that did this. Not fun.

You basically have a bunch of employees who know their job is going to end...waiting for it to end. Mentally, you're checked out. You're not going to produce your best work for your company and it becomes a struggle to stay engaged. That's my experience, anyway.

The better approach for everyone is to _maybe_ give 1-2 weeks warning so everyone can wrap up what they're working on, then give fair severance packages when the day comes.
Great for making fake "blue checkmark moment" posts.
Layoff to save rep among other things?
> Higher pay will increase status for whoever gets it

Drug dealing and Escort / prostitution provide significant income and poor status. Aristocracy had high status and sometimes little income.

They are not one and the same
The BSD license also controls "use", not just "redistribution":

Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions
are met:

That's word-for-word BSD license.

The only change I made is adding clause 3:

3. Use in source or binary forms for the construction or operation
of predictive software generation systems is prohibited.
I would be surprised if they do any "verification" at all. If you are a paining member, you will get a special icon. That's it.

I knew web forums that had that. Members that donated to the forum got a special status icon. It could get "trendy" and every one wants to show that they are part of the in-group.

Having to pay in order to be save from impersonation sound like extortion though.
The reason people are skeptical about its long-term longevity is that the vast majority of the income of the project is coming from the sale of hotspots, rather than from paying customers [1]. This means pricing for users is heavily subsidized by hotspot revenues right now. Eventually, the hotspot market will be saturated and prices will have to come up to keep the project afloat; it remains to be seen how competitive the pricing will be at that point.

PS: Saying LORA is "ubiquitous" in the US oversells it quite a bit. It is quite available in cities but most rural areas are completely devoid of coverage, see [2].

[1] https://cointelegraph.com/news/critique-on-helium-s-6-5k-mon...

[2] https://scwcontent.affino.com/AcuCustom/Sitename/DAM/031/Sen...
I have quite a bit of respect for Matthew Butterick. I don't think he's just a lawyer looking to earn a quick buck. He cares about software and wants to make the world a better place.

> But nei­ther Matthew Butterick nor any­one at the Joseph Saveri Law Firm is your lawyer

This is curious. None of them are my lawyers, but surely at least some of them are someone's lawyers? Isn't it wrong to put such a blanket disclaimer on a website which might well be read by their clients?
Identity theft is a crime when used to commit fraud. Just claiming to be someone but not otherwise defrauding anyone is fine.
It is disappointing every time the next swing in Mozilla's focus further reduces the amount of resources and mindshare allocated to providing safe, trustworthy and quality web browsers and related web tools.

Mozilla has been hijacked for years now. Is there a way to recover the original spirit in which it was first founded?
I'm actually in Perth right now, just setup my current Jeep for display at the Perth 4WD and adventure show.

I'm just finishing up 50,000km around Australia, have been in a swag for the last 12 months.
Singing? Sparrows have actual verbal fights all the time. I have seen and heard actual scandals many times. Even their body language speaks volumes
It's certainly not proven, but there are many hints in that direction, and the hints keep piling up. Recent research [1] on how the classic anaesthetics work (a great mystery!) suggests they operate by inhibiting the entanglement of pairs of electrons in small molecules which split into free radicals, the electrons then physically separated but still-entangled.

It seems it is at least possible, that there is speed-of-light quantum communication within the brain. And that consciousness may hinge fundamentally on this. If this is true, we're pretty much back to square one in terms of understanding.

[1] https://science.ucalgary.ca/news/state-consciousness-may-inv...
I lived in a Ford Transit (MR, 132") for 2 years. I'm a little over 6'2". I slept a little sideways and was smart with my interior build out.

Most people are shorter or spend the money on flares. (Flarespace)
I think it's two things: the power of malice, and popularity measurement. Malice and fame.

Social networks are devices for measuring popularity; if you took the up/down arrows off, no one would be interested in playing. And we have proven once again that nothing gets up arrows like being mean.

HN has the unusual property that you can't (readily) see others' score, just your own. That doesn't really make it any less about fame, but maybe it helps.

When advertising can fund these devices to scale to billions, it's tough to be optimistic about how it reflects human nature.
Honestly, the bit I’m happy to see is DisplayPort 2.1, as it might finally open up a lot more options in the display market.

I’ve been waiting a decade for 5K120 to be ubiquitous. That it might start existing with real selection (and competitive pricing) in the next year is fantastic. For the record, I’m talking about for productivity, not gaming. I’m aware that 4K is everywhere, but I’ll take the extra 77.8% logical work area every time.
Just don't put years worked at a job on the resume.
I never have and I've never been asked.
Most relevant jobs go first.
> an ease with leaving twitter if these get enacted

I'll believe that when journalists stop writing articles with unnamed sources, that are based on random twitter posts.
Yeah, and I think that's fair re: licensing. Curious to see how it pans out.

Also, re: your edit, not quite. They require you to release modified source under certain conditions if you make modifications to it. If everybody had to release code using GPL to the world, every companies code would currently be released to the world. There's more nuance than that. The gnu site covers a lot of that nuance (https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.en.html#UnreleasedMods)

LGPL is the one that enterprises won't touch with a 10 foot pole, due to more restrictive licensing, and more conditions under which you'd have to open source your own code.
If you are on Android and have root, you can install ACC (https://f-droid.org/en/packages/mattecarra.accapp/). It lets you customise the charging profile of your phone as well as see battery statistics, but out of the box it

1. Caps charging to 80%

2. Pauses charging if it gets too hot, until it's below 40°C

If you sporadically need full capacity (travelling, etc), just hit the "charge once to 100%" button and you're good to go.
Sure npm is not silver bullet. But I want the npm experience. Technical implementation can be improved as you say and I agree.
This thread brought back so much nostalgia for me. The Pebble was one of the greatest recent examples of "less is more" in tech design. Mine sadly died not long after they were discontinued, but I loved it. Since then, I got a Huawei watch (I forget which model) and I currently have an Apple Watch, but neither has ever really felt as useful to me. It's funny, they're capable of doing a lot more, but somehow they don't feel as fun or desirable to use as the Pebble did.
Watch William Shatner discuss the future of robotics in 1984
Now add JIRA integration and sell the Enterprise version and we can all go home.
Spammers love this feature of Outlook.com. Services like Outlook.com and Gmail are good at ensuring that their servers are not blocked and that their email gets delivered, perfect for spam delivery.

Here is a fun one... You get spam from that appears to be from outlook.com. You look at the email header and find the IP address. You lookup the IP Address registration info and find that it is registered to Microsoft, included in that registration is the email address abuse@microsoft.com. You email abuse@microsoft.com to tell them about the spammer, they respond telling you that you told the wrong people and refuse to send your message to the right people. Microsoft could care less about being a major spam provider.
If you dig this, see also this recent post https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33326360
I feel like this is a massive oversimplification...

In this answer, you're completely ignoring the massive fact that we cannot create a human brain. Having mathematical models about particles does not mean we have "solved" the brain. Unless you're also believe that these LLMs are actually behaving just like human brains, in that have consciousness, they have logic, they dream, they have nightmares, they produce emotions such as fear, love, anger, that they grow and change over time, that they controls body, your lungs, heart, etc...

You see my point, right? Surely you see that the statement 'The brain is also just a "complex math program"' is at best extremely over-simplistic.
oooof! And that's 5nm... and the 2nm will get 2x more logic transistors.

Hardware AV1 encode/decode directly in ffmpeg... ooof!

Now it seems they need to expose a hardware programing interface as clean and simple than nvidia one (warning: believing what I heard without checking for facts and/or code).
How does this system work worldwide across multiple governments, is resistant to identity theft, and prevents things like dictatorships from knowing exactly who you are?
I can not understand how your comment relates to the parent in any meaningful way. The tech hiring boom that occurred with Covid was certainly one contributor to over-staffing.

The parent is simply stating that market conditions are changing and that it might not necessarily a given that it will be so easy to find something new if we continue to see layoffs. That all seems pretty logical. However your response seem to be two links that are now a year out of date and a bizarre statement to "Stop believing the bullshit you're being fed"?
So what? Corp is owned by Foundation and pays Foundation millions every year. They even pay for the Foundation's legal services. Mozilla Foundation is Mozilla Corporation's albatross.
I perhaps wasn’t clear, I meant that I am not sure I want copilot constrained in this way. If I solidify that belief into definitely not wanting copilot constrained, then this would be a negative suit for me
Fair enough, I skimmed quickly and assumed (as you clearly noticed), so in that context it's not censorship.
> The physics that gives rise to the brain is pretty much known

There is a gaping chasm between observing known physics, and saying it is the cause of consciousness.

You should read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_mind

[ Edit: better link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_problem_of_consciousness ]
The trend you're criticising has been there for over a decade. You could save yourself a lot of anger by just using *BSD.
I don't want money, I want the terms of my licenses to be adhered to.
The other huge problem of democracy is that it doesn't account for human biases, such as the Donning-Kruger effect: people with high expertise tend to see flaws in one party or the other and will tend to not vote for anybody, while people with low expertise and knowledge buy any politician's lies wholesale and thus can be easily swayed by the best liar. So on average more liars get to govern us than good politicians.

Additionally, the other issue is that the best people with the expertise to solve a country's issues are exactly those that couldn't be bothered to get into politics. Likewise, career politicians tends to be absolutely inept and unqualified to run a country.

Democracy is the least worse form of government, but it still is very very bad.
Fold-out array + extra ones on the ground next to it?

3 miles per hour is 40 miles per day. You stay in a place for three days off grid you can probably drive back. And bottomless power for cooking, heat, internet/starlink, etc.

My dream is an EV RV that has airline-level highway self driving and starlink+solar panels. I'd sell everything and live in that.
Real-estate is (still) relatively cheap in Utah. And the LDS church saw them as a "source" of religious conversion.
To provide more to the "why", although end-user devices have moved away from BIOS-only boot, there are large number of systems that have no alternative to BIOS, and the hardware cannot be upgraded, only the firmware and software.

Most of the systems I have ran into were in SCADA[0], PMS[1], and BMS[2].

[0]:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCADA

[1]:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_management_system

[2]:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Building_management_system
Only two 8pin power connectors, compared to four needed for RTX 4080 and 4090.

The XTX will probably compete with the RTX 4080 12GB - whatever the new name.
It would be cool if it wasn't necessary to link the relevant line. That would enable non coders to create changes.
If Arm continues changing its licensing, I’m sure there will be plenty more RISC-V devices hosting websites soon.
> That part is still a work in progress

I hope to see the result soon.
It’s also weird coming after decades of tech reshaping media: local news is a fraction of what it once was, leaving important stories uncovered; things like Facebook’s infamous pivot to video, instant news pages, Google AMP, etc. all pulled control to tech companies and lost money for media companies; and the very way people write headlines and stories changed based on social media and search company decisions. Musk isn’t just some weird outlier, and it’s bizarre to me that someone who works in journalism is basically saying “we focus too much on the times where Lucy pulled the football away.”