skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
If Microsoft is so confident in the legality and ethics of Copilot, and that it doesn't leak or steal proprietary IP... they should go train it on the MS Word and Windows and Excel source trees.

What's that? They don't want to do that? Why not?
I guess "directly related" is more controversial than I thought. I would call these indirectly supporting Firefox, and in line with Mozilla's mission.

Building public documentation for free doesn't directly help Firefox's market share, improve the browser, fix bugs, or financially get them out from under Google's thumb. Nor does building an experimental browser engine that they do not intend to use. They may help with these things, but it requires a few steps to explain how.
Indeed, names like "Alex", "Pat", and "Taylor".
almost anybody can be a coder but software engineering is super freakin' hard - and I only say this because I'm soon wrapping up my second decade of doing it. the amount of things you can't efficiently learn at school is staggering. I see young promising people focusing on 'tech stacks', 'deep learning', etc. hence missing the forest from the trees and think that it simply isn't possible to exit school as a competent software engineer. you have to really try to be one to become one and no school makes you do that. it's you.
Since Timeful got shut down, I've been looking for a great solution for task time-blocking. This comment thread has so many great solutions for me to try, including Akiflow, thanks for working on this problem! I can't use it right now because our corporate Google Workspace accounts are locked from sharing, but looking forward to using it eventually.
It doesn't matter which end of the egg.
I think tiktok is doing incredibly well in this regards and in almost every social network aspect. Call me crazy but I now prefer the discussions there as HN's most of the time. I find high-quality comments (and there is still good jokes in the middle). The other day I felt upon a video about physics which had the most incredibly deep and knowlegeable comments Ive ever seen (edit: found the video, it is not as good as I remembered but still close to HN level imo). It's jaw dropping how well it works.

There is classical content moderation (the platform follows local laws) but mostly it kind of understand you so well that it put you right in the middle of like minded people. At least it feels that way.

I dont have insider hinsights on how it trully works I can only guess but the algorithm feels like a league or two above everything I have seen so far. It feels like it understand people so well that it prompted deep thought experiments on my end. Like let say I want to know someone I could simple ask "show me your tiktok". It's just a thought experiments but it feels like tiktok could tell how good of a person you are or more precisely what is your level of personal development. Namely, it could tell if youre racist, it could tell if youre a bully, a manipulator or easily manipulated, it could tell if youre smart (in the sense of high IQ), if you have fine taste, if you are a leader or a loner... And on and on.

Anyway, this is the ultimate moderation: follow the law and direct the user to like minded people.
I primarily use the scroll bar when I scroll :-(

The scroll wheel is so sluggish and the cursor keys are a lot slower still.

Also I'm not an apple user.
Correlation =/= causation

People with degrees, especially in stem are small (in compare to all ppl) group of people who are willing to put multi year, intense effort studying non trivial things

So yea, just those traits make them more likely to earn more

Go ahead and give degree to somebody without skills in good paying jobs and see whether that person will be milions ahead too
A human doesn't perfectly reproduce the same code he learned from.
Mozilla Foundation (non profit org doing this 'venture fund') != Mozilla Corporation (folks who build firefox)
If you had legal expertise and a strong opinion on the matter I suppose you could write a persuasive brief for the consideration of the court. If you have a strong opinion but aren't a legal eagle you could write to your legislators in support of legislation explicitly supporting this use case or organize the support of people more capable in that arena.

If you are opinionated but lazy, no judgement here as I sit here watching TV, you could add a notation at the top of your repos explicitly supporting the usage of your code in such tools as fair use.

Notably if your code is derivative of other works you have no power to grant permission for such use for code you don't own so best include some weasel words to that effect. Say.

I SUPPORT AND EXPLICITLY GRANT PERMISSION FOR THE USAGE OF THE BELOW CODE TO TRAIN ML SYSTEMS TO PRODUCE USEFUL HIGH QUALITY AUTOCOMPLETE FOR THE BETTERMENT AND UTILITY OF MY FELLOW PROGRAMMERS TO THE EXTENT ALLOWABLE BY LICENSE AND LAW. NOTHING ABOUT THIS GRANT SHALL BE CONSTRUED TO GRANT PERMISSION TO ANY CODE I DO NOT OWN THE RIGHTS TO NOR ENCOURAGE ANY INFRINGING USE OF SAID CODE.

Years from now when such cases are being heard and appealed ad nauseam a large portion of repos bearing such notices may persuade a judge that such use is a desired and normal use.

You could even make a GPLesque modification if you were so included where you said. SO LONG AS THE RESULTING TOOLING AND DATA IS MADE AVAILABLE TO ALL

Note not only am I not your lawyer, I am not a lawyer of any sort so if you think you'll end up in court best buy the time of an actual lawyer instead of a smart ass from the internet.
If that's true, 6 hours per day of sunlight gets you 30 km of driving distance per day. That's faster than walking, and more importantly, it's plenty of distance to find someplace new to park every day so you can avoid annoying sedentists who get suspicious of the new van in their neighborhood.
Yes! I’m confident this isn’t an original thought, but I feel like it’s a dream generator. Things that aren’t quite right but are in some way, perfectly contextually and topologically valid. Like it’s tricking the object classifier in my brain with a totally unrealistic thing that my brain is ready to simply accept.

There’s some image I see on occasion that’s 100% garbage. If you focus on it you cannot make out a single thing. But if you glance at it or see it scaled down, it looks like a table full of stuff.
The problem is that copyright laws were introduced for a reason, and with a thinking similar to yours we might decide to get rid of copyright altogether, which I think is a bad idea.

P.S. I am not a lawyer.
Copilot is not a person, it is a piece of software.
>Almost everyone has someone they trust so much that even the most insane conspiracy theory would be entertained at least for awhile if that trusted person brought it up.

What's wrong with that?

If someone you trust brings up a crazy idea, it should be considered. Maybe for a day, maybe for an hour, maybe for a half second, but it shouldn't be dismissed immediately no matter what.
They didn't when I got mine. And apparently, some still don't.

https://www.cardrates.com/advice/prepaid-cards-without-ssn/
For use cases of this product you will be packing much tighter than this.

You get terminal identification from the carrier, no need to waste precious packet space on identifiers. And it's probably also a waste to encode field names into your packet - just record fields at the same offset every time. If 16 bits of precision is enough for you (it likely is) you can squeeze 16 metrics (or 16 time series recordings of the same metric) into every packet.
How is that not the case for any language that lets experts get at the gory details what is the alternative?

Even in languages like Ruby this problem exists. Superficially, Ruby has a decent garbage collector and you never need to dereference a pointer. In practice as soon as it gets slow you hit an optimization stopping point and need to write an extension in C. Then you have all this mess again except with all the baggage another whole language brings to the table and none of the sheltering of a type system.

At some point you just have trust software devs to use the tools.
Exactly. The idea that this is the result of QE is wrong.
This is why we can't have nice things. Copilot is the best thing that happened in developper tools since a long time, it increased a lot my productivity. Please don't ruin it.
It's used in the Propeller 2.

https://www.parallax.com/propeller-2/
AGI is somewhere between "never" and "GPT-3 is it", depending on how general the G has to be and how intelligent the I has to be.

(For all it's flaws, GPT-3 is already does better at random professional knowledge than many TV show script writers).
That implies it’s a service I want, which I have not decided on in this situation. Either way I was more arguing with the other posters claim that it “didn’t make sense” to critique this move, which I think is factually incorrect since I can come up with a few plausible situations where it does make sense
Mmmmm. No where does it say that this is an exclusively made for Microsoft Windows OSes ... only.

I found out the hard way by attempting to download their product, and there it shows, Microsoft-only.
It's having to go find the other block you want, copy and paste it, and then set up the multiple cursors and type, versus it just happening automatically without any of that.
Yeah well, Yishan failed miserably at topic moderation on Reddit, and generally speaking Reddit has notoriously awful moderation policies that end up allowing users to run their own little fiefdoms just because they name-squatted earliest on a given topic. Additionally, Reddit (also notoriously) allowed some horrendously toxic behavior to continue on its site (jailbait, fatpeoplehate, the_donald, conservative currently) for literal years before taking action, so even when it comes to basic admin activity I doubt he's the guy we should all be listening to.

I think the fact that this is absurdly long and wanders at least twice into environmental stuff (which is super interesting btw, definitely read those tangents) kind of illustrates just how not-the-best Yishan is as a source of wisdom on this topic.

Very steeped in typical SV "this problem is super hard so you're not allowed to judge failure or try anything simple" talk. Also it's basically an ad for Block Party by the end (if you make it that far), so... yeah.
As a foreigner I find that great to be able to know if some of the more uncommon American names are male or female.
How silly is this.
The most prominent complaint came from Stephen King.

Not a journalist. And he definitely doesn't have his self worth tied up into his Twitter audience.

But anyways, by your logic, the entire HN audience's self worth is tied up in whether an iPhone has an audio jack or not, because this audience spent way more time and energy on that issue than journalists have on the blue checkmark.
I do not understand your comment. I am arguing that the electoral college is less representative in a presidential election than popular vote. Which seems obvious to me, assuming you want everyone to have equal voting power for the president.
People following financial incentives are being greedy, this is how we got “greed is good” as a phrase
People not following your license ? And not making their derived works under the same license like I require?
There are no limitations on reading the code to learn from it.
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This is quite the way to discredit the whole business of marketing and advertising, and its core goal of informing people about things no matter what.

Activism is marketing. Unfortunately, marketing is not my field of expertise, so I won't make any hypothesis on its impact.
Where are the people arguing about Donald Trump? Where are the people promoting dodgy cryptocurrencies? Where are the people arguing about fighting duck-sized horses? Where's the Ask HN asking for TV show recommendations?
I doubt it, but they'd probably be against people quoting copyrighted material verbatim without attribution in their own work after.
Starting valuations were much higher this time, and the rate increases were significantly faster.

It’s actually the fastest fed tightening ever, from a percentage change perspective.

Weren’t many 100x sales companies in 2015. Even after the recent carnage there are still many 10-40x sales companies, which is pretty much unjustifiable with a 4.5% risk free rate
Postgres Insider Terminology
OCB is a fun case study because they later granted an exception for OpenSSL, but only for software literally named OpenSSL.
what's the connection between having an office in a quasi-hemi-fascist state and layoffs?
> favoured new-left politics.

Citation needed. r/ChapoTrapHouse was banned, and there's many large alt-right subreddits in existence right now that haven't been banned (like r/tucker_carlson).
Easier to read this:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1586955288061452289.html
Yes, that's probably the limit of the pure behavioral analysis, esp. if one is sincere. If they're insincere it will probably look like spam; but if somebody truly believes crazy theories and is casually pushing them (vs promoting them aggressively and exclusively), that's probably harder to spot.
I’m not a lawyer, but here is why I believe a class action lawsuit is correct;

“AI” is just fancy speak for “complex math program”. If I make a program that’s simply given an arbitrary input then, thought math operations, outputs Microsoft copyright code, am I in the clear just because it’s “AI”? I think they would sue the heck out of me if I did that, and I believe the opposite should be true as well.

I’m sure my own open source code is in that thing. I did not see any attributions, thus they break the fundamentals of open source.

In the spirit of Rick Sanchez; It’s just compression with extra steps.
As celestialcheese says [1], it seems like a manufactured case for the purpose of furthering someone's legal career rather than seeking remittance for any violations made by Copilot.

But I like to put on my conspiracy hat from time to time, and right now is one such time, so let's begin...

Though the motivations behind this case are uncertain, what is certain is that this case will establish a precedent. As we know, precedents are very important for any further rulings on cases of a similar nature.

Could it be the case that Microsoft has a hand in this, in trying to preempt a precedent that favors Copilot in any further litigation against it?

Wouldn't put it past a company like Microsoft.

Just a wild thought I had.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33457826
It's possible the complaint is using a trivial example to illustrate the type of argument plaintiffs want to make during any trial. A 200-line example is too unwieldy for non-programmers to digest, especially given the formatting constraints of a legal brief.

Look at paragraphs 90 and 91 on page 27 of the complaint[1]:

"90. GitHub concedes that in ordinary use, Copilot will reproduce passages of code verbatim: “Our latest internal research shows that about 1% of the time, a suggestion [Output] may contain some code snippets longer than ~150 characters that matches” code from the training data. This standard is more limited than is necessary for copyright infringement. But even using GitHub’s own metric and the most conservative possible criteria, Copilot has violated the DMCA at least tens of thousands of times."

Does distributing licensed code without attribution on a mass scale count as fair use?

If Copilot is inadvertently providing a programmer with copyrighted code, is that programmer and/or their employer responsible for copyright infringement?

There's a lot of interesting legal complications I think the courts will want to adjudicate.

[1] https://githubcopilotlitigation.com/pdf/1-0-github_complaint...
Yep, there's no way around mapping – the data has to get mapped somehow. The 835/837 are a bear. You can save some time if someone has built a mapping template already – say, from a transaction type in Oracle to the 837 – but if it's a custom system you're mapping to/from (like a homegrown API), it's impossible for a template to exist...it has to be done from scratch.

We've found that many of the fields end up being single-item enums, so those can be hardcoded (i.e. no mapping required). Guides (https://www.stedi.com/products/guides) generates JSON Schema for you, and Mappings (https://www.stedi.com/products/mappings) automatically populates any single-item enum. Both are free to configure in the UI.
Alex and Pat are diminutives. I would understand if only people with names like Taylor did state their gender though.
But the need is obviously there. Everyone who produces the following code in a non-university environment - for a fee! - needs to be punished quickly and severely:

Based on the given prompt, [Codex] produced the following response:

function isEven(n) {

if (n == 0)

return true;

else if (n == 1)

return false;

else if (n < 0)

return isEven(‐n);

else

return isEven(n ‐ 2);

}

console.log(isEven(50));

// → true

console.log(isEven(75));

// → false

console.log(isEven(‐1));

// → ??**
Yes, this is a very familiar scene from CGOS, the computer go server which the Computer Go mailing lists used to get ratings for their bots. Plenty of otherwise strong bots botched the cleanup.

KataGo doesn't even botch the cleanup unless you botch the settings. So I don't think this is a very impressive result.
Curious, did you remove the green goo post because you found something wrong with the reasoning or did you judge it to be an infohazard?
Honestly the internet has a lot to do with this problem too, stealing VOIP accounts and spoofing caller ID has enabled a lot of this.
It's a pleasant consequence for the person who spent years becoming an expert and then writing the book. It's also a pleasant consequence for the people who buy the book, which might not have existed without a copyright system to protect the writer's interests.
Under non-US countries, they're still required to offer time off in employment contracts, and payout for unused time off under that contract
Yeah, exactly right.

It's very easy to think that gear is important, but the progress in recent years is towards quicker photo taking, which is actually the opposite of what helps me take better photos. I find that a decent quality manual focus camera without a light meter slows me down enough for me to get into the right frame of mind to understand what i'm looking at.
probably not and likely open to similar law suits - this is not really a bad thing
Wish they would release\support gpufort or whatever amd calls their platform, so stable diffusion works, and we can get benchmarks. Nvidia cuda is really a market monopoly, and AI is everywhere now. Voice changers for discord/streaming, Stable Diffusion, etc.
IMO, the case is exactly the same for copilot and generative models for images. That's why it's so important to have some precedent as a guide for future products.

P.S. I am not a lawyer.
I think they're taking issue with the unauthorized duplication of copyrighted code. That's distinct from learning how to code (which I don't think anyone would claim Copilot is doing) which people get from reading a book. If you were to read the book only to copy it verbatim and resell it, you're going to have a bad time.
I read this comment and all I thought was "that's a real shame" that you stopped taking photos just because of the end result. You said yourself, that you liked the process. Surely in this case, the journey is the reward, not the destination? It doesn't matter if you don't look at the photos anymore, the time you're spending doing the aspects of the hobby that you enjoy more, surely that is enough to satiate the appetite?

Even if you just stop at developing the film, and then storing it in a folder / booklet that has the 35mm film sleeves inside them (yes, you can still get those), you can do like 80% of the "fun" part of your photographic journey, and developed film in a folder will only take up the space of a decent sized book on your bookshelf.

For what it's worth, I started with DSLR photography and am now (as of late last year) getting into film photography and really am enjoying it. I don't develop my own film, I send it off to a lab, but I still get a thrill out of the whole process, even if I'm not involved in some parts of it.
ADS-B is essentially mandatory nowadays, but it's just a radio that transmits location to others in the same local area. Get enough volunteers with receivers spread throughout the world and you do get real time location tracking of every aircraft. See https://www.adsbexchange.com/
With pluto/jupyter/observable you can make it live.
Thank you very much, I will digest this idea, as it sounds interesting and VERY alien to me. ;)
This was my takeaway as well. Yishan is arguing that social media companies aren't picking sides they're just aiming for a happy community, but the end result of that is that the loudest and angriest group(s) end up emotionally bullying the moderation algorithm into conforming. This is precisely the problem that Elon seems to be tackling.
It's probably something like this. I'm interested in a specific videogame and have bounced around a lot of discords trying to find one where most of the members are older. We still have some under-18s (including one guy's son), but they're in the minority, and that makes everything easier to moderate. We can just ban (or temp-ban) anyone who's bringing the vibe down and know that the rest will understand and keep the peace.

Teens don't have as much experience with communities going to shit, or with spaces like the workplace where you're collectively responsible for the smooth running of the group. They're hot-headed and can cause one bad experience to snowball where an adult might forgive and forget.

About the only thing that makes mentally healthy adults hard to moderate is when they get drunk or high and do stupid stuff because they've stopped worrying about consequences.
If I was behind the exact same spam, would it be welcomed? Come on.
Completely disagree about HN. Controversial topics that are thought out, well formed, and argued with good intent are generally good sources of discussion.

Most of the time though, people arguing controversial topics phrase them so poorly or include heavy handed emotions so that their arguments have no shot of being fairly interpreted by anyone else.
Datadog Acquires Cloudcraft to Create Live Cloud Architecture Diagrams
Snaps run sandboxed. It's not perfect, but it's a whole lot better than debs.
Not really. Ethernet and Infiniband are both perfectly capable from a bandwidth perspective. Streaming video isn't remotely close to latency-bound, which is where Infiniband would be better suited.
>its valuation is likely cut in half from peak, at least

So you wish they would have got to dump overpriced shares on the public to further enrich insiders?

It's not like Stripe engineers were earning minimum wage digging ditches for 10 years...