skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I understand what you're saying, but it wasn't my main point. I probably expressed it poorly.

I was considering an artistically lacking photographer with good gear, that knows how the gear works. That's the typical target of these discussions. So the gap is artistic skill, not technical skill.

I totally agree with your conclusion that most people don't want to bother with any of this.
Sorry, the canonical link should be https://github.com/boa-dev/boa
It's the license that matters, not whether the code is visible on Microsoft's website.

Code which anybody can view is called "source available". You aren't necessarily allowed to use the code, but some companies will let their customers see what is going on so they can better integrate the code, understand performance implications, debug and fix unexpected issues, etc. The customers would probably face significant legal risks if they took that code and started to sell it.

"Open source" code implies permission to re-use the code, but there is still some nuance. Some open-source licenses come with almost no restrictions, but others include limiting clauses. The GPL, for example, is "viral": anybody who uses GPL code in a project must also provide that project's source code on request.

What do you think the chances are that Microsoft would surrender the Copilot codebase upon receipt of a GPL request?
Great to see AMD focusing on performance per watt. I might very well jump ship now; will be interesting to see the reviews - I'm into the kind of "poorly optimised" simulators that saw a massive impact from the 5800X3D. The NVIDIA 4090, whilst having amazing performance is just too much in both price and wattage.

NVIDIA's questionable business practices have also left a lot to be desired; they easily forgot who got them into the #1 position when miners were lined up with their money during the lock-downs.
But the people who make OpenSSL the predominant implementation do care.
I personally hope they win, and win big. Anything that ruins Micro$oft's day is a boon to mine.
No? SpaceX purchased it, so it's theirs now. They may for instance be using shared ground network hardware and software post acquisition. Do you have reason to think otherwise?
They all have problems with spam. Outlook, Google, Fastmail. I wouldn't say that's a reason to shut the service down.
Humans are just compression with extra steps by that logic.

There's a fairly simple technical fix for codex/copilot anyway; stick a search engine on the back end and index the training data and don't output things found in the search engine.
I'm assuming you're in HR? I was an SWE, and definitely noticed a real level of disingenuousness from the more HR types out there.

The same people constantly tooting their own horn about how respectful and human-centred they were would go out of their way to rip the soul and humanity out of everything they touched.

This is probably why GP is in opposition to the pronoun thing. It's got nothing to do with the merit of the idea itself, but the people implementing it - similar to how people are against the Metaverse simply because Facebook own it.
This frequently happens with my submissions; the flammable material doesn't always catch fire with the first strike. And it's probably not worth complaining about.. hear me out.

Reframing it: Are you pleased you were able to accurately predict something that ended up being of interest to a great many people? You deserve to feel good about this! In the end, the thing got shared as intended. This is success.

At least, this is what I've learned to tell myself ;).

HN points are probably the most worthless form of currency, except for maybe crypto.
"desperate semantic games" is actually a reasonable description of the legal process :-)

I'm not sure I agree that anything expressed in a legal contract using natural language is "unambiguously clear". MS / Github's expensively-attired lawyers will not doubt forcefully argue that they are not selling the YOUR content, but a service based on a model generated from a large collection of content, which they have been granted a licence to "parse it into a search index or otherwise analyze it on our servers". There may even be in-court discussion of generalization, which will be exciting.
I’ve used Vim for over a decade I know what it can do.

This is automated and happens immediately without you even thinking about it.

You only ever pull out the complicated Vim editing when you have a particular hard task, I’m talking about the small stuff many times a day.
I had the same skepticism as you, but the study authors did attempt to be fair by letting a set of politically balanced laypeople (equal number Democrat and Republican) adjudicate the trustworthiness of sites. They also had journalists rate the sites, but they present the results of both results (layperson-rated and journalist-rated).

I wish they had included the list so we could see for ourselves. It's still possible that there are flaws in the study. But the it appears to take the concern of fairness more seriously than most.
Is Stripe not also subject to macro trends?
The term "insourcing" was used in the movie "The Campaign" to refer to bringing cheap Chinese labor to the US and paying them similar wages and offer same working conditions as in China to save on shipping costs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLwdvvzKJqs&t=32s
After a while, we learned that what our users really wanted was to have everything in one place.

This is so spot on! We're having similar learnings with eesel [1] too. Work is far too scattered across apps. Thanks for sharing your journey so far and congrats on the launch!

[1] https://eesel.app
I know sales bros who live their live by their ABCs - always be closing, but that's besides the point. if the person behind the spam bot one day wakes up and decides to do turn over a new leaf and something else with their life, they're not going to use the buyC1alis@vixagra.com email address they use for sending spam as the basis for their new persona. thus sending spam is inherit to the buyC1alis@vixagra.com identity that we see - of course there's a human being behind it, but as we'll never know them in ant other context, that is who they are to us.
I haven't heard anyone saying that copilot is legal "just because it's AI." That's a pretty bad faith, reductive, and disingenuous representation. The core argument I've seen is that the output is sufficiently transformative and not straight up copying.
"Remember when they were considering a Norway-like agreement? Or perhaps like Switzerland?
"

The self-interested groups who were trying to deny that the vote had happened were some of the loudest voices against any sort of soft Brexit. therefore all but guaranteeing chaotic Brexit.

Look at the indicative votes in early 2019 at a time when the government was paralysed and desperate to get any way out. Those voting against single market / customs union were nationalists, green, change uk and right wing labour MPs.

https://ig.ft.com/brexit-second-round-indicative-votes/
Yep. I've never been fired or layed off before (thank goodness) but I found it unusual that they fired him in the middle of a meeting and the "screen went blank." That seems a little dramatic.
I was supportive of getting rid of him at the time, but after seeing what that path lead to, I now think we need to just stick to business and keep people private lives out. I really don't agree with what he was doing but that shouldn't matter for the purposes of running a successful company and product.

To have a functioning society we basically have to accept using products and projects from objectionable people because almost everyone is objectionable in the perspective of someone else.
In 40+ years in the industry, I've only been unwillingly unemployed for about a month, when the startup I was at imploded (frankly, much to everyone's relief).

Doesn't mean it won't get really bad, or that you'll be happy with what you find.
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> Yes. They hire devs from the Midwest instead of major metro areas.

Which is great, IMO. It's time we opened the doors to more talented developers across the country rather than requiring everyone to move to a few big cities to get the best jobs.

Yes, compensation will come down relative to those big cities, but it will still be coming up for those devs outside of major metro areas (otherwise they wouldn't be taking the jobs, obviously)
That's a good point. I like to point out that secretaries were programming Emacs in Lisp back in the day:

> programming new editing commands was so convenient that even the secretaries in his [Bernie Greenberg] office started learning how to use it. They used a manual someone had written which showed how to extend Emacs, but didn't say it was a programming. So the secretaries, who believed they couldn't do programming, weren't scared off. They read the manual, discovered they could do useful things and they learned to program.

https://www.gnu.org/gnu/rms-lisp.html

Our (programmers) whole business model is predicated on the normies not realizing they don't really need us.

From that POV the JS ecosystems and all their churn are a form of job security. I feel like it's kind of a scam, a Potemkin village of complexity to hide the fact that computer programming just isn't that hard, and most needful software is already written.

(Excel is the most successful programming language and IDE in the world, eh?)
Until you sprinkle a bit of Stable Diffusion V2 or 3 on it, or perhaps some GaN.

The more I think about it, the more this all seems like another dimension of Jack and the Magic Beanstalk crossed with The Matrix.
> That's the whole heart of this lawsuit, and equally Copilot. It was trained on OSS which is explicitly licensed for free use.

Most open-source software is not licensed for free use. MIT and GPL, the two most common licenses, both require attribution.
I was absolutely in awe when reading this sentence: how is this even supposed to be related?

Disclaimer: The fact that these characters are or are not appearing on your display screen may be or may not be related to climate change; it may also be aliens.
The Devil's rummaging through his closet for some mittens.
I find it just slightly comical that there’s at the same time a post on front page of HN regarding litigation against GitHub copilot:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33457063

https://githubcopilotlitigation.com/
Standardizing on Blink basically yields web rendering to Google. Because they have outsized influence by controlling what gets into Chrome.

It's like saying SQL should just be whatever MySQL does, after all it's had plenty of forks and contributors.
I agree this solution wouldn't scale to all platforms; those driven by maximizing views and engagement would find it counter-productive, as you say.

But that's fine. There are enough of those platforms already, and they have all the flaws we're talking about. We don't need to fix the existing ones so much as get to a world where better (by these standards) platforms exist and can compete on quality.

Twitter/Reddit/etc kind of try to do that, but it's hard to get right and it's always an afterthought, like Yoshin mentioned.

But maybe there's room in the market for something with higher signal to noise, that's reputation based. And reputation doesn't have to be super cerebral and dry and stodgy; reputation can be about sense of humor or whatever is appropriate for the sub-communities that evolve on the platform.
I take your code and I compress it in a tar.gz file. Il call that file "the model".
Then I ask an algorithm (Gzip) to infer some code using "the model".
The algorithm (gzip) just learned how to code by reading your code. It just happened to have it memorized in its model.
Isn't it just chemistry?

Chemistry is quantum physics at its core. It is just that quantum equations are so hard to solve for anything bigger than hydrogen that most of the times, chemists prefer to use empirical rules to do their job.
Not binary streams of serialized objects, but arrays of pointers to live objects in one process's memory. No serialization / deserialization, binary or text, or piping between processes, just passing pointers to live objects between cmdlets in the same address space. That's quite different and vastly more efficient than serializing and deserializing text or binary data between every step in different processes connected by pipes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerShell#Pipeline

>As with Unix pipelines, PowerShell pipelines can construct complex commands, using the | operator to connect stages. However, the PowerShell pipeline differs from Unix pipelines in that stages execute within the PowerShell runtime rather than as a set of processes coordinated by the operating system. Additionally, structured .NET objects, rather than byte streams, are passed from one stage to the next. Using objects and executing stages within the PowerShell runtime eliminates the need to serialize data structures, or to extract them by explicitly parsing text output. An object can also encapsulate certain functions that work on the contained data, which become available to the recipient command for use. For the last cmdlet in a pipeline, PowerShell automatically pipes its output object to the Out-Default cmdlet, which transforms the objects into a stream of format objects and then renders those to the screen.
> So I ask that you think of the unintended consequences when criticizing in an extreme manner.

What is this supposed to mean then? The implication is that we think of the greater good when formulating our criticism - something I am saying is the opposite of productive. We should attack Mozilla's incompetence head on, not give them a pass for deeds in a bygone era.
What kind of project would you use to self-host?
That makes me hate the phrase even more.
The trick is to be willing to work for 120k or less, haha

Which, to be fair, is still almost twice the median household income in the USA
According to A New Science of Language, yes.
Stripe have macro-level funding and profits; you can't compare an enormous company to an individual.
So much for being rational.
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The difference is I hardly ever see spam on Gmail and Fastmail. Whereas outlook it's 10 delivered every 4hours that the Android app notifies me for! And stuff that should be easily identifiable as spam too.
I would agree with that. I've been posting consistently every day, at the same time for 8 months and hasn't seen much return.
But my vids are highly automated and pretty niche weather content, so wouldn't expect it to go crazy either.
https://www.youtube.com/@aussiefromspace

I'm pretty happy, as a user that YouTube no longer pushes constancy over quality.
The reality of people that have parked on my block (hoarders, tweakers, general nuisances) are diametrically opposed to the people you see in #vanlife posts. I get why camper bans are growing, even if it's just handling a symptom of the COL crisis.
> it feels like using a chainsaw to open a letter

Oh yes this sums it up perfectly. I'm a MSP and most of my clients use either google or ms365 and I gotta say the microsoft solution feels so damn clunky and setting scattered around different domains and services. It feels like it's built around (sub(sub))licenses and googles solution feels like it's built for actual users
> Is it a license violation to push someone's FOSS code to github because the author didn't sign up with GH?

It depends on the licence.

It's very much enforceable that companies who provide content publishing platforms will indemnify themselves against people publishing content to which they do not have an appropriate licence.
Are there projects reverse engineering them? Something like BangleJS?
This blog post talks about systemd a lot. Why would I want to use systemd to set up boot partitions? I don't even have it installed on Linux distribution.
The biggest problems with Twitter's moderation are what OP explicitly didn't talk about.

1. There isn't enough communication from moderators about why tweets are removed and users are banned. There is a missed learning opportunity when users don't get to hear why they are being moderated.

2. Bans are probably too harsh. If you can't come back having learned from your mistakes, why learn at all?

Most of it is a scaling issue, which is the same reason that popular subreddits are a predictably negative experience while niche subreddits tend to be well regarded.
Okay; thanks for clarifying. I actually hadn't noticed that use of "use" in the BSD license before. I think I need an IP lawyer explain what that "use" means.
Feel free to write "fired" on your resume if that's what you want, I guess.
With the exception that there are infinite types of chords in this case, and even though many musicians follow familiar chord structures the underlying melodies and rhythms are unique enough for any familiar person to be able to differentiate "Red Hot Chill Peppers" from "All-American Rejects", and now there is a system where All-American Rejects hit a few buttons and a song is generated (using audio samples of "Under the Bridge") that sounds like "Under the Bridge pt 2, All-American Rejects Boogaloo".

That's why it's actionable and why there is meat on the bone for this case. The real issue is going to be if they can convince a jury that this software is just stealing code and whether its wrong if a robot does it.
I might be wrong but I think people were saying this long before GOT?
I think there's a parallel in surveillance systems. For example, it's perfectly reasonable for a police officer conducting an investigation to follow a suspect as they drive around town. After all, it's happening in public and it's not illegal to watch what someone does in public (caveat being taking it to the level of stalking).

However, is it reasonable to write an AI system that monitors the time and location of all license plates seen around town, puts them into a database, and then that same officer can simply put in the suspect's license plate instead of actually following them around? Maybe, maybe not, that's not my point here. But the creation of that functionality can easily lead to its abuse.

Is this exactly the same case as Copilot? Of course not, these are two wildly different systems. But I think it's an interesting parallel to consider when discussing the point of "it's okay when a human does it" because humans and algorithms operate at two very different levels of scale. The potential for abuse of the latter being far higher and far easier than something a human has to do manually.
What you've described sounds more appropriate for an electric bicycle than a full-size van.

If someone only needs to travel < 30 kms per day (per sunny day), then they can fill up the tank on an IC engine for $100 and be set for a month.
> There is not a understood natural phenomenon which we could not capture in math.

You are saying "If we know how something works, we can explain how it works using math."

But we know almost nothing about how the brain works.

> The physics that gives rise to the brain is pretty much known.

...no it is not! No physicist would describe any physical phenomenon as being "pretty much known". Let alone cognition. We don't even have a complete atomic model.
A ton of them do exist but run by grownups. For example, I worked for a web development company which had Petco as a client. The pets.com people were trying to get purchased and they asked us to talk with them. It was obvious that they were running way too much overhead - we’d talk with their technical team on the phone & people would outright volunteer that they didn’t have much to do and were mostly waiting for the IPO lotto tickets - so they failed but today just about everyone buys pet supplies online.

The idea was fine but they didn’t understand they were in a low-margin industry. That pattern showed up a lot, especially where things like shipping were key chokepoints. Cement.com memorably failed but you can easily order building supplies in many places because the real value is proximity and there wasn’t a high-margin business as a middleman.
> The problem are all the other whatsapp groups that I'm not in, which are filled with hateful politics.

If you do not like hateful politics, just filter them out - of your own feed. My solution, if implemented, will give you exactly that opportunity.
And yet the market leader by a wide margin doesn't do any of that. They are bankrolled by a near monopoly on ads in various markets.
As long as AIs are incapable of recognizing when they are plagiarizing, as humans are generally capable of, the double standard seems entirely warranted.
There will also be companies that take advantage of the current buzz around recession and use the opportunity to do a rank/yank disguised as a layoff. Then go and rehire the same amount of people.
> This product is not for attaching to people, but things that you actually want to be tracked...

…like people’s cars.

Not that I think the sky is falling and this is the end of privacy or anything.
Where did Microsoft say that GPL code was excluded from the training dataset? Since not including attribution is already a violation of MIT/BSD-style licenses, I don't think MS is discouraged by violating licenses.
A better link directly to the rumor: https://old.reddit.com/r/airpods/comments/yfc5xw/airpods_max...
I have befriended and am giving daily treats to a family of three crows for about 6 months now.

They are fascinating. Gaining their trust and "interacting" with them has been very meditative.
How many people complained about ads being next to BLM stuff - particularly in the NFL and NBA?

A LOT, but nothing happened.

It’s not about customers complaining.
This would become hard to manage as you expand to users you “trust” but don’t agree with. Or users that have extremely good views in one topic they spend most of their time talking about, and the few rare posts about other topics that express extremely bad views. Users with high trust networks also become a target for spam and low brow accounts: anything they get to engage with will be boosted exponentially.

I think this comes back to the “focus on bad behaviors, not bad actors” discussion, but in reverse: focusing on “good actors” (“trusted” users) assumes people have fixed patterns, when there’s a lot of nuance and variability to be taken into account.
Well, let's start with thinking. Or rather, brainstorming, fantasizing, hypothesizing, theorizing, imagining.

Ask yourself the following questions:

What will the world be like in 10,000 years?

1,000 years?

100 years?

10 years?

1 year?

Record the ideas that come to mind. Explore those ideas with further thinking, writing, and google searches.

Whatever that turns up that grabs your attention, dig into. Books are often the best gateways to the ideas. Wikipedia and YouTube can supplement a bit. When you get really deep into something, that's when you start reading the academic literature.

You have to pretend you're in a PhD program doing a research project on the future.

When you've got the ideas, then you can ask yourself how you can organize your life to exploit / create the future. And keep going through the process in a cycle. It's a journey of curiosity.
I doubt it. It’s a direct reference to the book. To be a sweet summer child in the book is to be naive about the winter that is eventually coming, since you’re too young to have ever lived through a winter before, and therefore have no idea or conception or experience of what the real world is actually like. For those who don’t know, summers and winters are exceptionally long in the fantasy world of Westeros, and if you were born at the beginning of summer, you could reach the age of 10 before ever knowing a winter.
It's probably the most expensive 10% as far as licensing goes.
Why are you arguing against me like I'm not just summarizing the OP tweet thread?
So how and why do we solve the halting problem?
Turned out to be particularly bad in Israel. One of the first things I learned using a phone translator app was that the restaurant is mostly offering variants of "damned hummus".