> Also some of the links on your slide-deck are just as eye-popping (eg. the public-private discourse document with crosstabs). Lots of good info in there.

Thank you for going through it! Yours is the first comment I've seen mentioning the talk. You've provided some great feedback here that I will incorporate into future versions of any related presentations.

> However, I am not sure what to do with this information except perhaps sharing it with some people I know own Reddit (as per your FAQ),

Right, I think we need to do two things. (1) build these systems for other platforms, and (2) raise awareness about what's going on by telling stories about it.

I've got some idea about how to do both of these, but I don't own the patent or anything. So to the extent that someone's motivated to collaborate, I'm willing. This is very grass roots. To get to the point where I could so openly collect my thoughts has taken some time, however now I've got a good idea about how to go about it. In fact I've always felt that way about this work! Every couple of weeks I'm like, oh, I should be doing that. Then I go do it and I reach a new milestone, but real public awareness remains elusive.

I've tried reaching out to hundreds of journalists and several organizations who support free speech and so far haven't had success, so if you have any connections and want to fire off an email or tweet about shadow moderation, Reveddit, or the talk, please do your worst.

> but then that makes me think "then what"? What happens then? Getting Reveddit exposure is good, but there does not seem to be a clear stated strategy of how any of that traction will be practically used.

Well, I can say with confidence that when the site is shared on Reddit, groups do change. Users create new groups, moderators become more open, or admins may even step in. So my expectation is that sharing it on other social media sites might lead to more discussion and possibly more openness from platforms, because again this is happening everywhere on every side of every issue in every geography.

For example, I have virtually no Twitter following and don't know how to do Twitter, especially since I'm usually awake while you all are sleeping.

Does that provide some ideas for direction? I know it's not all buttoned up like a campaign from FightForTheFuture. I'd love for it to be like that, but right now it's still just me, and maybe you all. I don't have good ideas for what to do with money so I am not asking for donations.

Another to-do is to start doing video shorts on stuff that gets removed, like Cheyenne did here [1] [2].

> Also, on slide #60 of your presentation you have a slide title of "There is no evidence that censorship doesn't change minds." I don't know if I am just having a slow brain day, but I was not sure how to interpret this in the context of what you were saying and the bullet-points on the slide itself. Is this just meant to be a more non-committal version of "Censorship changes minds"?

Yes, that's a much better way of putting it, or maybe "Myth: Censorship might change minds" ? I think I was thinking of this conversation [3] where I said "countering negative ideas with suppression does not work", and someone else said they don't believe it. I've seen the same argument made elsewhere too.

Since this talk, I have developed a stronger opinion on that. I now believe censorship creates the toxic environment that mods seek to eliminate [4].

[1] https://www.tiktok.com/@cheyenne.l.hunt/video/71115053899502...

[2] https://www.tiktok.com/@cheyenne.l.hunt/video/71118581026385...

[3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33055132

[4] https://old.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/ymeqaz/hate...