skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> Sorry to say this but comments on this thread are very disappointing and show a basic lack of empathy in HN crowd.

The vast majority of comments near the top don't seem to be of this type, so not sure what you're referring to.

I have a lot of sympathy for Twitter employees who just had to deal with the total shitshow of the past ~10 months, with the media spotlight on them.

But that said, the thing I fundamentally disagree with (and I'm speaking from experience) is that getting laid off if this colossal, tragic thing that many HNers seem to think it is:

1. There will definitely be ups and downs, but getting laid off in a growing industry is very different from getting laid off in a shrinking industry. Many companies are tightening their belts but there are still tons of companies hiring right now, and it's not like most tech workers have the concerns of, say, medical transcriptionists, where the vast majority of those jobs just won't exist in 10-20 years.

2. Tech pays well, and the likelihood of huge layoffs at Twitter have been known for months. While I can empathize with people who were laid off, it's difficult to have sympathy if folks haven't prepared, i.e. saving up a cushion and starting their job search early. It is rare to get this much foresight into a layoff.

3. Tech also tends to give much better severance packages than in many other industries. To be clear, lots of other industries give 2 weeks max, if anything at all.

Again, I have tons of sympathy along the lines of the "man, that really f'in sucks that you had to deal with that" level. I disagree with some of the melodrama I'm seeing that this is something like the worst thing that can happen to someone - one of the linked tweets in the article had a Hunger Games screenshot.
Same.

Good news though, the jupyter devs created myst (https://myst-parser.readthedocs.io/en/latest/syntax/syntax.h...), a superset of markdown that has almost all the features of rst, and can embed rst when it falls short.

And there is a plugin to use it with sphinx. It can even reside in a project that started with rst files, both format can coexist.

With this and sphinx-autoreload, writing doc is so much better.
Ok, so he signed the contract. Decided not to buy it because it was a massively overvalued money pit but they forced him anyway.

So now he is supposed to keep dumping money into the burning dumpster fire that is twitter?
If he's right (too soon to know), then nothing of value was lost.

Twitter wasn't profitable and probably was never going to be. Those tweeting will probably lead healthier and more productive lives doing other things. Those consuming content may have to actually read substacks, blog posts, reddit posts and other means of delivering content that are less a knife fight, and more a reasoned argument.

Twitter was rarely the Budapest cafe. It was more the favala rival gang war. If it dies at Elon's hands then its another boon to society, along with electric vehicles and comparatively cheap and reuseable space flight.
I don’t understand how this can be correct:

if (pw_len == DESLEN || HAS_AGEINFO(pw_epasswd, pw_len)) {
strlcpy(des_pass, pass, sizeof(des_pass));
pass = des_pass;
}

Doesn’t that truncate your password if it happens to have DESLEN characters?
White House deletes tweet after Twitter adds 'context' note
Unless you're in a region where AC is not needed, you already need refrigerant in the AC system. It does add some refrigerant overall (since there's places that do not require AC, but may require heat pumps), but it's not that big a difference.
Yikes, if that equivalence is true then Twitter advertising has a horrible ROI. Less than $1 of sales per dollar of advertising is not a good look.
Why would we see more downtime?
Do you feel that a vertical fridge with a 'normal' outer door and individual drawers or doors in both the fridge and freezer sections could compartmentalise the fridge and give better energy efficiency and require fewer engineering changes?

I'm inclined to think that engineering improvements to a vertical fridge is easier than the changes required for a chest fridge.
Because not doing so would fly completely in the face of everything Elon claimed he wanted Twitter to stand for. They would be putting their finger on the scale to censor speech critical of Twitter, and Twitter only. (Or maybe other favored groups and politicians too, who knows? Starting off like this on day 1 kills any trust in neutral moderation immediately).

Edit: that said, I'm not sure it's been confirmed yet whether the employee just deleted the tweet themself - which would be a very different story.
Scanning for vulnerabilities won't help you find critics. If you wanted to look for critics, you would scan for critics.
Link to the letter 'signing over' the water: https://drive.google.com/file/d/13FYYsvgvbu7-zMfImnNFYPKs42Q...

It seems remarkably vague given the implications.

I'm surprised they didn't agree to a more concrete proposal to delineate exactly how much water can be used per annum.

To avoid any future disputes, at the very least.
I’m not sure what the extend of the delay really is, maybe in the 90s it could be felt but since the 2000’s, it seems like France’s internet is always pretty fast and cheap and available across the country.
Both are true — if a team can figure out how the reduce the need for human intervention, they generally will. In the limit, what's left is the really-hard-to-anticipate/automate stuff.
You literally said:

> During the pandemic, SF had in-person schooling at private schools, but not in public schools.

This is patently false. All of the private schools in SF that I’m aware of switched to remote learning from March 2020 to the end of that school year, and many had “hybrid” models (e.g. alternating one week in-person, one week remote) when they resumed in August / September.
I cant believe you didnt even answer my question, a person who has already spent thousands on this problem personally and youre announcing a fucking launch IM YOURE FUCKING CUSTOMER
I did not even mention all the Android phones 1B+ running Linux. Also all the top 500 HPC runs Linux: https://www.top500.org/statistics/details/osfam/1/

Hotmail running BSD is dead, I doubt MS is using BSD at all, they're using the same stuff as outlook.com which is not BSD.

I'm not saying Linux is better, just it is overall faster because an order of magnitude more $$$ and contribution.
Though some may dislike it, I actually am glad that Twitter under Elon Musk is fact checking both sides.
My mom is similar, but I am not. I can stay on topic quite well and inability to do so is bothersome to me, so I see that and think, “I don’t have any of that.”

But when you said boring tasks are painful, and wanting someone to tap you on the shoulder when you get off task, I was nodding along vigorously. My best solution to this (so far) is to ensure my way of contributing meaningfully to things doesn’t require rote, boring work. :) I’ve considered setting up a camera over my shoulder just to give myself the feeling of being observed…
I don't know what you refer to when you talk about the style but it's just how I write code; I try to keep it simple.
Some of the simplicity of the code is possible because it's bash, which both means that I can skip parsing the input (since bash already is made for doing that) and use existing programs like curl and nc.
Phantom notes played by violins turn out to be a real sound
Correction - HE forced himself to buy it by signing a binding contract to buy it.
My own family was one of them.
I probably like him even less than the average person in this discussion. Believe it or not, it's possible to take a neutral unbiased stance based on facts instead of foaming at the mouth at every opportunity. Even serial killers have lawyers defending them. No one should take me any more or less seriously than anyone else here and just like everyone else here I am entitled to voice my opinion.
I once heard a joke that, in the right environment "If you know what you're doing and show a little enthusiasm, you'll wind up on 6 boards before you can turn around and realize what's happening".

It makes sense that certain types of people would wind up on a lot of boards very quickly.
Yes.

> An employer who violates WARN provisions is liable to each employee for an amount equal to back pay and benefits for the period of the violation, up to 60 days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_Adjustment_and_Retraini...

He learned his lesson from a similar large scale layoff at Tesla. The lawyers in this case were the same lawyers in the previous case.
I've said the same about Branson and Virgin Galactic. He's been trying since 2004 to commercialize spaceflight and I don't think they've done anything worth mentioning. It seems to take more than an eccentric rich guy with big ideas to tackle space.
As a relatively disinterested observer (don’t tweet, don’t own a Tesla, don’t feel particularly strongly about Mr Musk), I’ve found the media/commentariat reversals of position on this funny.

Musk’s initial Twitter takeover talk was met with general opprobrium, to put it mildly. I must have read more than one take that it was a threat to democracy itself.

Then, after a stock market downturn, and when the Twitter acquisition looked more like an impulsive decision that Musk might regret, the prevailing mood was gleeful. He was stuck with a white elephant. Schadenfreude. And since he clearly no longer wanted it, the consensus now he was legally and morally obligated to buy. Twitter itself demanded it. They weren’t going to let him weasel out of that one.

Now that he seems to have accepted his obligation and the sale has gone through, we’re back to opprobrium.

It’s callous to laugh when so many people have lost their livelihoods (although I’m confident any former Twitter employee has plenty of employment options). But the commentariat consistently outdoes what a satirist could invent.
you've got 90 days of paid time off to look forward to
Most of them are companies whose owners either want to keep them private or who are not well-served by "tradFi" as the cryptobros say. As such, they don't have valuations over $100 billion (they don't have valuations at all, usually), but they are worth over $100 billion.

Several big law firms are likely worth over $100 billion if they ever were equity financed, but use a partnership structure for legal reasons. The same for large hedge funds, which use partnerships for tax reasons.

This list has some more traditional companies that have stayed private but have high revenue:

https://www.forbes.com/largest-private-companies/list/

Some of them would crack $100 billion valuation, but not all (eg Publix at #3 on the list probably wouldn't, but Mars at #4 would).

Here's a worldwide list with the same caveat:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_private_non-...

These lists only include companies that report their revenue for one reason or another (eg to get a loan). Many profitable private companies don't - their owners like to stay private and extract cash from the business rather than having to keep the profit in the business.

State-owned companies are another group entirely, and are often worth a ton.
Twitter is going under?
Thank-you for the reply. I interpreted the original FAQ answer to mean that stack ranking by lines-of-code has been used by Twitter in the recent past, prior to Musk. But I can now see that this is a new criteria used to justify layoffs.
No, I'm merely suggesting that they are not a solution to the problem, and that the fundamental issue has to be approached at the language level.

What you are building is mainly a smoke detector (and maybe a bit of a sprinkler if it takes some decisions itself), not fireproof doors (that only at install, not test- or runtime). Smoke detectors by themselves cannot prevent fires from spreading and are not completely reliable.

Analysis tools are still useful - even with perfect language-level access and resource control, packages which are given many required permissions may behave maliciously (e.g. through compromise of any component in the development or distribution pipeline), or return malicious data (which is out of scope/unsolvable at the language level). Both approaches complement each other nicely.
Oh interesting. So an employer cannot blanket state "you must not work for another company while you work full-time here" even if you're NOT a "contractor"?
Somehow I missed the √ symbol in √-1 there but I think it was understood I meant i, not -1.
> They were dumped unceremoniously, the result of the addled whims of a walking meme

How is that different from Stripe layoffs from yesterday? I believe Stripe employees also didn't know that they will be laid off, and they got similar compensation to what Twitter employees got.
Elon Musk’s Twitter layoffs leave whole teams gutted
I've seen a few leave willingly to other similar companies before ever succeeding at the current one, or even doing poorly. The qualifications for the next CEO position seems to be that one was a CEO before, regardless of performance. Much like DC, after a certain level on the org chart, one "fails up".
The latter, I didn't even read TFA.

Sorry if my prior message was confusing, but why would a top tier company let go one of their best performers after just a half and a year out fresh of college?
Stripe’s Markdoc (markdoc.dev) is very promising.

Anything AsciiDoc can do, Markdoc can be extended to do, from variables through includes.

React or HTML output. AST transforms or functions. Upcoming editor support etc.

The community isn’t there yet but I predict it will show up.
Previously posted, this includes part of the email they got:

https://www.businessinsider.com/read-blunt-email-telling-twi...
Trump's presence on Twitter was a major factor in deleting my account a few years ago. Have not regretted it.
You made the right choice, rst is not user friendly, even for tech savvy people.

I'll take the opportunity to do a shameless plug for the amazing "Markedly Structured Text", or MyST, a markdown flavor that is both easy to write like markdown, and expressive like rst.

Basically, if you know markdown, you can write decent MyST already. In fact, any markdown is valid MyST and .md is a valid file extension for MyST.

Once you want more, the syntax offers richer construct, but still easy enough to use.

Check it out: https://myst-parser.readthedocs.io/en/latest/syntax/syntax.h...

I wanted to love asciidoc because the format rocks, but it never took off and the tooling is still lacking. MyST piggy back on markdown ecosystem, this is less of a problem.

Also, the devs behind it also have a very good track record at creating a good FOSS ecosystem.
maybe they should be
I’ve seen two situations one that sounds a bit like your is poorly managed but isn’t bad, one that is really bad:

1. Co-founder likes to make stuff, build stuff, sell stuff, raise money, etc. but does not like, or care for leading 50+ people. Typically he (always he) keeps the title, a small team of senior or very dedicated people, and do whatever he is actually good at. At the same time, a newly appointed, experienced VP does the actual management of the larger team, while nominally reporting to the CxO. This is a good way to avoid drama while the reality of the situation dawns on the co-founder: his report is doing all the grown-up work. You don’t like that work. It’s CxO type of work… so you shouldn't squat the title any longer. It takes a while, though.

The benefits: the VP has ample time and an incentive to prove they can handle the weirdness of a board, and get promoted to SVP, or CxO when their role gets more obvious. They are easier to replace if they underperform or don’t indulge in the CxO delusion long enough. It’s unfair, but it works and most people end up finding what they need in time.

2. Someone was CyO at the previous company, and was able to coast long enough while that first project crashed and burn. Before it did, that someone was hunted to be a new company to be CyO because… well, they look like they know what they are doing. No one at the new company knows what a good CyO does. So they can continue coasting. And it can hurt so many great people who need support.

I’ve seem both at the same time, and it’s painful to see so many people miss what is the problem.

“But so-and-so it’s really CxO!

— Who cares? VP of x is doing great work

— They fight with CyO all the time

— Yeah, because CyO is incompetent and does nothing…”

Titles don’t really matter: if someone has an inflated one, it shouldn’t make them too dangerous. Lack of feedback does: the CxO gets asked to work on special projects and is happy. The CyO is not told to get his shit together, and everyone suffers.
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So if they use a bad tool, it would be bad, but if they use a good tool it would be good?
Linus Torvalds talks about taste in https://www.tag1consulting.com/blog/interview-linus-torvalds...

I did maintain Git for a few months, and the thing that made me ask Junio if he wanted to be the maintainer is that very-hard-to-describe notion of "good taste". I don't really have a better description for it: programming is about solving technical problems, but how you solve them, and how you think about them is important too, and it's one of those things you start to recognize over time: certain people have that "good taste" thing and pick the "right" solution.

I don't want to claim that programming is an art, because it really is mostly just about "good engineering". I'm a big believer in Thomas Edison's "one percent inspiration and ninety-nine percent perspiration" mantra: it's almost all about the little details and the everyday grunt-work. But there is that occasional "inspiration" part, that "good taste" thing that is about more than just solving some problem - solving it cleanly and nicely and yes, even beautifully.

And Junio had that "good taste".

And every time Git comes up, I try to remember to really make it very very clear: I may have started and designed the core ideas in Git, but I often get too much credit for that part. It's been 15+ years, and I was really only involved with Git in that first year. Junio has been an exemplary maintainer, and he's the one who has made Git what it is today.

Btw, this whole "good taste" thing and finding people who have it, and trusting them - that's very much not just about Git. It's very much the history of Linux too. Unlike Git, Linux is obviously a project that I still do actively maintain, but very much like Git, it's also a project with lots of other people involved, and I think one of the big successes of Linux is having literally hundreds of maintainers around, all with that hard-to-define "good taste", and all people who maintain parts of the kernel.
Yea I sometimes have to refresh my memory on sudoers or just search for what I want to accomplish, hoping that someone has already handled the potential security gotchas (eg, exact fullpath command should always be specified).

I agree, in some typical cases I only need to specify "<user> can become root" or "<user> can become <user of group>", kinda like doas already does I think.

I'll probably try out doas when the next such special need arises, then resort to sudo if doas is insufficient for some reason.
Gene therapy is still experimental. So its not an argument.
Which wouldn't be half as bad if it wasn't for the potential for echo chambers and tribalism fostering political radicalization.

This seems to be a person that thinks that they had something beautiful and nice that contributed to the public sphere and doesn't realize that for many this event in which twitter may change drastically or die is a good thing either way.

Then again if I was in a server room where 4chan, kiwifarms and twitter were hosted and I had a revolver with two bullets I'd shoot the twitter server twice. I'd be baffled if I ever learned in some quantitative way that the site was a net good.
That seems so wrong to me that it's hard to take in that people would believe it.

There is - to me - obviously no chance that that would derail HSR, and Musk is definitely smart enough to understand that.

Also, the effect on car sales 15 years in the future in a small corner of the global market is such a tiny thing. I'd easily believe that, as a California tax payer, he was annoyed at $100B being spent on something that probably won't work.
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Distribution packaging for Linux desktop applications is unsustainable
I once ranted loudly that governments should be doing this for free. That governments should be assembling the best team of pentesters to pentest everything they can possibly find within their jurisdiction.

I love seeing this.
Resulting in the hiring of only people who agree with them
There’s nothing you can do because the companies are dictatorships or oligarchies at best, not democracies or meritocracies. If he’s the founder presumably he had enough ownership in the company to force the company to keep him in that position.

Changing that up requires a radical redesign of how companies are legally constrained in the US or a cultural change that causes an expectation of worker ownership so that they get a say. For examples look at Germany requiring a representative of the workers on company boards
Yep, as a current Keysight employee, it certainly feels like more of the original HP philosophy and values have stayed with us, while HP themselves have become unrecognizable.
This isn't actually sufficient to uphold free speech. Rather, you need to fund your opponents -- buy them a new house, give them your car, retell their opinion to everyone you know, saying that you agree with it and that they should too, so that it can be seen in the most favourable light and have the most possible reach, and that they can put their full effort into it without having to prioritize their views against eating or housing etc.

Just not adding punishments to one side while granting money, privilege, and respect to another is the current state of propaganda for folks like Bill Gates.

If you make something that agrees, you'll be showered in funding, attention, and branding, but if you make something that disagrees, you're on your own. It's a retaliation for disagreeing
Project mentioned in the article is being discontinued unfortunately:
https://bibliogram.art/ - Discontinuing Bibliogram (2022-09-01)
The idea is for HR to implement a reporting system that allow the team to give that feedback to someone high-up enough to do something about it.
i don't understand how people keep getting played by the same media tactics

elon is playing you, everything is fine, he just wants free attention to spread platform news to people without spending $

all the complainers are his new marketing network and it's glorious
I would argue that settlement payments are an indicator of poor management, and unless something happens like a buyout then you can assume poor management will continue and there will continue to be risks of things like settlements.
Clearly, they are not contemporaries so it’s obvious.
This looks great. Thank you! If Atuin or HiSHtory would only let me sync through iCloud or something else like Synching.
Necessarily? I'd assume a factoid has the potential to be either true or false.
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This point of view isn't supported by org charts at large companies. If you were to compute the correlation between age of org and time in org of the business unit leader, you will get a very high number. It's high because people grow into the capabilities you are describing, just like someone grows into a Java developer. The opportunities to learn those skills are rare, and generally are never just handed out.

Again this comes from experience at two FAANGs. Most high level business leaders started 20 years ago. You can present whatever type of logic you want, the data doesnt support the logic.
Don't let reality get in the way of space man bad narrative