skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Lots of great info on access and account stuff here. I'd like to also add that i'm putting together a short "biography" to hand to my children in case I die young. I'd like them to know more about how I grew up, my parents, grandparents, and people around me that influenced and cared for me. Maybe some light lessons-learned, but not too preachy I hope.

I spent a lot of time with my mother in her final few years, heard lots of stories and details of her life (and even my own early life) that I hadn't known yet.

I hope I can give the same to my children if something happens.
Hmm.. maybe better to avoid alcohol completely, or stick to other less harmful recreational drugs and pastimes?
Nah. Basically, who will loose are topical experts who tweeted about what they knew well about. Layers tweeting about law, developers tweeting about frameworks, academics tweeting about crypto, viruses, history. These wont pay and will be less visible.

Who will pay will be grifters and ideologues.
How does adding a new subscription feature and changing verification checkmarks to "secondary tags" level the playing field? https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587527711228149765
Is Michael Bay cloning and copyrighting entire scenes of the Scorsese films as entirely yours?
Yeah this is reasonable. For those who want or need it $100/yr is affordable but more than most would pay just to have it but don't need it. Off course it's mostly a mechanism to strengthen the bottom line but if it's value for money then go ahead.
That's the core problem with this approach. Elon and others have the idea in their head that Twitter is a social graph where people come to interact with each other, and everyone is relatively equal. So every user paying $X/mo to solidify their place in the graph makes some conceptual sense.

In reality Twitter is more akin to YouTube than Facebook. A tiny percentage of users are creators while the vast majority are consumers. If you go by the rough count of their currently verified accounts, only ~0.16% of monthly active users are producing content of any real value.

An average user (part of the 99.9%) isn't going to care about any status or badges – they are only there to look at memes.

Creators and influencers on the other hand are going to care, but (1) there are too few of them for their $8/mo to make a substantial difference to the company's bottom line, and (2) the platform needs them as much as they need platform.

So you really want to instead do the exact opposite – ask the consumers to pay and fund your creators with that money.
> and the market isn't serving lower barrier / better experience options it did a month, year or decade ago.

That's irrelevant, and very often false. But the options offered by the market at any given time are generally better at higher price points, which is, oddly, exactly what the commenter upthread was outraged by.
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Obfuscation is not a valid defense against copyright infringement. If my database contains full encrypted copies of unlicensed works and I distribute keys to my customers for parts of those works, no forensic auditor will ever prove the full extent of my infringement without learning the full keyset. But I would argue that reproduction of even a single instance of an unlicensed non trivial fragment of a copyrighted work would taint that entire database.

In the same way in AI a crafted prompt that creates striking similarities to a well known work, like this example here, is suficient proof that the model embeds unlicensed works; using a copyrighted work for training models is just another form of commercial exploitation that the original author should be compensated for.
Yeah, that's why I don't watch TV any more.
Oh wow, i didn't know that about gen z.
I have been using Voice since like 2007, it's one of the only services from Google I've latched onto because it's nearly impossible to steal a phone number out of it (nobody to social engineer and need to get access to Google Account and pay a few dollars to unlock the number). For YEARS, like 5+ nobody knew if they were shutting it down. It used to be possible to trunk SIP calls over Google Voice using GChat/Gtalk and XMPP to SIP bridge.

Out of nowhere they started to update it again sometime in the latter part of last decade, it still has 2 panels in the configuration backend because they halfassed implementing the Material interface and didn't include all the features. Despite this I'm ride or die with it because there's nothing else on the market that gives you a fairly un-stealable number for free.

Oh and to continue the fragmentation, Google Voice for Workspace is a totally different product similar to Vonage Cloud. As has often been the case with their paid services for years, the free users generally get a better experience.

EDIT: I honestly think a big part of the reason this has stayed running is Bandwidth.com runs most of the show under the hood and that company knows what they're doing. Another Google service they ran was GOOG-411 when that existed.
more like they're freaking out they'll lose the status from having something not everyone can buy
They announce this is to users as part of the offering. But of course it's measurable.
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There are only three reasons:
1. To allow you to charge customers differently for the same product.
2. If you are offering a highly customized product.
3. To establish value for your product prior to providing pricing.

In my experience, #1 is by far the most common for a SaaS.

The rationale of "if you have to ask" falls apart because you could just put a high price on your site to filter out the cheapskates.

I also find that when evaluating a new product, my first click on their site is the pricing page. It is a semi-standardized way to quickly see the significant features offered without all the verbose prose that you'll find on the product pages.
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Refactoring is (or should be) caused by changing requirements, not by the class becoming "too big". Changing requirements come from many places, but tend to be more common in line-of-business applications than free-time programming IME.

That is to say: I agree with you, and I think there's some correlation between "software at the mercy of changing business requirements" and "software written in popular class-oriented languages".
> It elicits shrieks because it’s more about leveling the playing field than making money.

If 1% of twitter accounts pay then that is $400M/yr which is a decent chunk of revenue for twitter. It is absolutely about making money.

All the government and official accounts along with CEOs, actors and other public personas will be almost forced to pay up. The existing blue check marks who don't pay up will probably be made up for 10x by wannabe youtube personalities that pay for it.

The "blue check establishment journos" are also almost all upper middle class liberals, there's not much of a morality story here other than PMCs and capitalists having a squabble.
Twitter has been a left wing extremist echo chamber for years. Ever since it became acceptable to silence and ban anyone and everyone who failed to comply with far left dogma. Now the sky is falling because they fear twitter might bring back something close to free speech. So they're panicking, fluttering around, squawking, etc, seeking another safe space.

The funny part is that if they all migrate to Mastodon, they'll find it's where all the really weird extremists went before them. I mean Mastodon is packed with serious right wing and left wing extremists of every sort, along with probably dangerous p3rv3rts, and various other disgusting individuals such as politicians and reporters.
But I think it's a good use case for organization issued IDs, tickets, or even things like driver's license.
Think about the situation for a second. You'll be switching to other methods, and so will everyone else, all at once. Do Amex and Mastercard even have the capacity to take up the slack with no notice? Do you really think that every critical component of a cost-optimised system will have been over-provisioned to be able to take on hundreds of millions of additional customers in a single day? And if one fails, the demand switches to the remainder and crashes them too. It's a classic cascade failure.
I don't follow famous people. Way too much noise. I follow dev and engineering stuff.
I'm exploring the idea here because I haven't given it much thought before, so don't take the following as an aggressive defense.

Couldn't influencers be considered a more positive form of advertising in that they are open about what they are? I've always had more trouble with insidious types of advertisements or ones where the relationship between someone reviewing an item and the vendor isn't disclosed. When I know someone is an influence/tech evangelist/promoter/some other term, I at least can have my mental guard up, which is not something I can keep up 24/7
Coming from the Pixel 6 Pro, I feel the same. The camera is comparatively very slow with even daytime indoor lighting. Half the photos I take of a child at play end up in the trash due to blur. Hoping to find out that I'm just "holding it wrong".
I dont think early adopters mattered for years already.
I think you're misreading how much an elderly ultra-famous and quite rich author gives a shit about his "status" on some stupid website like Twitter.

I think he was insulted at the idea of having to pay anything to be verified on the platform, when both his presence and his being verified are helpful to twitter and make twitter money, even if they do also drive some book sales for him. I took it as his saying that he'd respond to such an insult (being asked to pay) by simply leaving, because Twitter and whatever little extra money it's making him don't really matter much to him.

I doubt he's alone in that thinking. Though sure, some celebs, most or all brands (that's who they should be soaking with monthly charges), and the media will stick around until/unless the platform enters clear decline and a viable alternative emerges.
Matt Levine has an interesting take on this [0], basically that nothing in that Musk claims of their behaviour meets the specification of "cause" in their employment contracts, and further that the golden parachutes are a good thing in that they prevent the C-suite from being focused on their continuing salary:

"The basic problem with Musk’s efforts to walk away from these severance agreements — beyond the lack of actual arguments — is that if he can stiff these executives then no golden parachute is binding. The point of a golden parachute is that a CEO with a golden parachute will sell his company to a buyer whom he doesn’t like, if that’s what is best for shareholders. If the buyer can stiff the CEO on the parachute payments because they don’t like each other, then no buyer will ever pay severance, and no CEO will ever trust it."

[0] https://web.archive.org/web/20221031165639/https://www.bloom...
interesting approach to have it be PPP adjusted. i wonder how they'll prevent people from high income countries faking they're in a lower income one.
hey, i didn't know that guy started a new boot camp. what happened to lambda school?
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As with sibling, it's possible but it hasn't happened in any way that bothers me. Seems like it's just CAP theory in action. I don't think consistency is the corner of that triangle to optimize for in this case.
In computing you can apply Yoneda for optimizations.

"Each of the steps is fairly compelling, except perhaps the second one, which rests on the Yoneda Lemma"

see "Kan Extensions for Program Optimisation"

https://www.cs.ox.ac.uk/ralf.hinze/Kan.pdf
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But the verified mention is no longer a verified mention. It’s a paid mention.

And the people most likely to pay to ensure that their responses are seen broadly are narcissists and people who want to sell you stuff like their latest get rich quick scheme, newsletter
Subscription, etc.

Actual verified users will dwindle in comparisons and the value of filtering out non “verified” responses will plummet.
You forgot to add the tech debt contributed by people who either can't code well or don't care. Those two often go hand-in-hand
Oh, I thought you wanted more depth of field.

My mistake.
The cost to acquire each of those users is more than $2/user because the cost of their advertising infrastructure.
I always felt Twitter as "old man yells at cloud" kind of communication. I've never seen proper "content" created (like pinterest, tik tok, etc). Most of the "content" I see are the asinine multi-post threads and text-pictures notices from angry people/companies.
>The user who created the Hollie Mengert styled outputs could not have hit that target without using a model that was designed to create or mimic that type of output.

This is the part that I'm not so sure about. The value of fine-tuning on Hollie Mengert's work is not so much that it enables the model to create that type of output, it's that it makes it far less likely to create other types of outputs. It narrows down the haystack, but it doesn't create the needle.

Similarly, if I set out to find Alfred E. Neuman, but my training data has no images from MAD magazine due to licensing concerns, will it be possible? It may not be possible to use the prompt "Alfred E. Neuman", but maybe it's possible to use the prompt "A cartoon drawing of a grinning red-headed boy with a gap in his front teeth". Images recognizable as Alfred are likely still in the model's output space, even if they are not so easily found. They are certainly in the output space of the "random pixel machine". It's just a question of how hard they are to find.
> there aren't enough bits

you can create compressed copy of a file containing 100TB of the letter "A" in much less than 4GB

there could be enough bits in there to reproduce some of the inputs.
He's owned Twitter for a few days. He threw out $20 and then adjusted it down to $8, seemingly based on feedback. Did he already know that $8 was the appropriate amount? Was there already some internal analysis done that he is just piggy-backing on? It certainly seems like Musk is making big changes literally moments after arriving on scene.
At which point it reacts with ozone to form carbon dioxide and water. It's like saying the best way to destroy water is by freezing it.
Really hoping this was outside our solar system and indicative of life, TBH.
Of course, it's not a technical problem. They could keep a hash instead of a copy. But I'm sure people who find the 'hidden tool' and request to have their information removed are interested in specific products, so a list of these people is very valuable to train machine learning models on..
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Any salary ranges at hand?
I had one coach who was super into what could most charitably called "gamesmanship."

Just one example:

He noticed one ref gave verbal warnings only the first two times someone stepped out of bounds, so he had me bait the opponent into throwing a bunch of kicks as I retreated until I had two verbal warnings. My opponent was rather pissed off before I threw a single kick, upped the aggression and fell right into a counter.

He was good at all the regular tactics too; my only TKO was accomplished by starting out round 2 with exactly what he told me to do.

Re: the hogu thing, I did see someone do a push-kick on the hogu, then drag the foot down, pulling the hogu with it until there was no padding over the collar bone and punch there. He broke two people's collar bones and the ref was oblivious. The second opponent retaliated and it escalated with the match ending -3 to -2 (yes negative for both people). The guy who initiated the dirty stuff won, but had a broken instep (his opponent caught a roundhouse by raising his thigh and dropped an elbow directly onto the instep).
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Stephen King needs a blue check because Twitter is terrible at deleting imposter accounts.
Absolutely, but now you are talking pretty large structures… which will take time for us to get there.
> If you’re a journalist, being on Twitter is basically part of your job so maybe you should have to pay a bit more just like the customer of some business software

I think this completely misunderstands why social media products like Twitter are successful.

Those journalists (or gamers, or comedians, or porn stars) that you're arguing should be considering $9 a month as cost of business, they are the content creators and the only justification for a business like twitter having any value at all. Principally, twitter is a network, and these users are the highly connected nodes of that network. How fast will superconnectedness decline without them? Superexponentially.

The people with blue check marks aren't your customers or clients: they are your product.
Another example of why we need the 'regulation' that is so demonized.
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Reddit the same site that deletes tons of comments and bans subreddits?
I guess it is possible he floated the $20 knowing someone very-famous would object and he could counter—either misreading the room badly, or else as a deliberate insult—with $8, which was what he wanted all along.

5d chess and all that.

Or he's impulsive and tweets dumb shit basically all the time. It might just be that.
You are romanticizing brains. Please stick to logical arguments that can be empirically tested.
> So you want to instead do the exact opposite – ask the consumers to pay and fund your creators with that money.

I think it's only Onlyfans that can get away with such a business model.
What's your point? 18 months to resolve a criminal case seems reasonable. There's no particular need to move faster. Delays in criminal cases usually happen with the consent of the defendant since they consider it advantageous to have more time, especially if they're not being held in jail. Defendants can usually accelerate the process if they insist on maximally exercising their 6th Amendment rights but most don't.
There's nothing good. When everyone can buy a checkmark, it becomes nothing.

The next step is "only allow replies from blue checkmarks"

both are bad ideas, and solely because of musk's obsession with bots. Without a mob to prop up people with retweets, twitter will be useless. You cant have the good parts without the ugly parts
He can still tweet without a blue checkmark and people will still know who he is.