skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I'm pretty sure I'd pay $100 for an expansion considering the amount of enjoyment I've gotten from Factorio
The tweet was deleted, presumably to do with doubt over whether the employees they talked to were actual former employees.

> fyi -some questions being raised about whether these are really twitter employees.

> Still trying to verify

https://twitter.com/dee_bosa/status/1586055365409443840
Edit: looks like a hoax

Without Musk’s reasoning, and full disclosure I am not a data engineer, but as a role it strikes me as unnecessarily distinct (as in everyone should have these skills to pull and analyze data)

Second, just musing here, but I have noticed data engineers are a more diverse crowd than software engineers. Perhaps it has less of a stigma that keeps people away from software engineering
Everyone has different preferences, it would be silly to not customize things to fit your wants and needs better. Good defaults are important, but when they're tailored to a large group they can only be so good.
Corporations aren't going to adjust their behaviour until the punishments for their malfeasance start becoming a true existential threat
Sure I’d hate it if you called me a TexanLady instead of a TexanFeller. But I will defend your right to call me names. Speech that offends someone doesn’t imply speech that shouldn’t be allowed.
Makes sense to fire the team that is in charge of measuring things since he is going to make up his own numbers anyways.

Six months from now he will announce that the fake account problem is solved. His supporters will laud him as a genius. Did he actually remove bots? No one will know, and no one will care.
> he is invested in making it work

No he isn't. Its a leveraged buyout.

Twitter owns the debt. Elon owns Twitter, but can let Twitter go bankrupt on its own and cut his losses.

As far as I can tell, Elon Musk is just invested at "getting back" at everyone who forced him to buy this company at way overpriced values. He's fired the CEO, CFO, Legal Team, and now the data-engineers who supported the legal team's arguments.

Its... like... actually really straightforward.
https://archive.ph/gHaM8
Very cool. It's amazing how cutting edge rackets plotting facilities are

The rest of the blog has a bunch of inspiring content for the aspiring Racketeer that isn't catering to students or programming language theory researchers
Only extremely circumstantial evidence. Some guesses about which species died off vs being protected, some climate change signatures that are consistent with a high UV burst.

About the best you can say for it is "you can't prove it didn't happen". Which, given that it was half a billion years ago, may be the best you can get. There isn't a real smoking gun.

The leading hypothesis is more that a long-term climate change caused secondary effects in a vicious cycle. We know the climate change was happening; there's very strong evidence. But it's not clear exactly what caused it or exactly how it led to mass extinction.
Related: what I've been doing with the incessant "we need your consent" popups on incognito tabs is to write a tampermonkey script that on page load searches and auto-clicks the refuse / dismiss button, the same approach might work for your issue? Crazy this is the sort of nonsense we have to resort to in order to make Google products usable...
They haven’t removed it from the DOM yet. In a few updates, it’s likely that they will remove it.
Free speech has begun. LOL
I’ve heard a lot of people saying this. I’m curious about the reasons: why would the change of ownership make you decide to delete your account?
I mean running out of disk is a danger for any persistence, that's not specific to using WAL
Because they've made so much progress on autonomous driving, right?
The value generated by employes determines the market capitalization, not the delta between market cap and acquisition bid.

Whether you pay "above market price" or not has nothing to do with the value employees provide, but with how friendly or hostile the board and shareholders may be, or how willing to sell they are.
And it means that state firewalls will just block all CDNs.
All posts about the topic are being flagged, to the great confusion of many of us. I've seen over a dozen posts come and go since yesterday's announcement.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33366830

I think it might be all the people seething in the comment section, 90% of the comments here are snark, quips and generally information-less.
It is unlikely that at least one of the people in the cited tweet was actually a Twitter employee: https://twitter.com/WealthyCFO/status/1586053744269340672
I don't believe this. Only two people? This is "performance art" by two pro-Elon people.

There's no way Twitter laid off two people on Elon's first day; layoffs take planning. It's just two guys with mostly empty boxes. I doubt most employees would even be in the office on a Friday. I dislike Elon and am pretty sure big layoffs are coming, but they won't be reported by two guys on a sidewalk claiming to be "data engineers".

EDIT: It's confirmed these two people didn't work at Twitter. One went by "Rahul Ligma", which is a joke setup ("lick my ...").
You haven't actually answered my question, which is: what do you do with someone who has done severe, irreparable damage to society and has sociopathic feelings about it?

It seems that you don't like continuous internal exile via imprisonment, and that you're in favor of "re-integration", but you have no real plan for what happens when re-integration proves impossible besides "create a massive, resource-intensive cycle to continuously attempt to re-educate violent criminals and then put them back in the communities they terrorized". If you put them in other places, it's exile. If you put them in prison only, it's internal exile. As I've stated, the only real options are death, exile, or re-integration into the community they came from. You have not provided another option.

It doesn't matter what the frequency of "murder-by-nitwit" is; if your society experiences that phenomena, you have to handle the "nitwits", although "dangerous sociopaths" is the phrase I would use. Murder rates depend on historical epoch. Is living in a cartel-controlled area in Mexico any more or less dangerous then living on the same patch of land before the invention of the country of Mexico? It doesn't matter what era it is or whether or not your technique for controlling it is "old-fashioned". The important legal and moral practices are the ones that lead to the protection, safety, and flourishing of people who collaborate with the rest of society in good faith.

You said elsewhere that "the definition of civilized behavior is defending humanity in each person, even the wickedest and worst among us". I disagree; I think the definition of civilized behavior is "the deliberate, collaborative practice of law, agriculture, and retention of wisdom via knowledge transfer". We seem to have little common ground on this idea, and as a result of our ideological differences you are willing to welcome people who have committed murder, rape, thievery, slavery, intimidation, corruption, etc. back into your community and I am not.

It's also curious that you choose to paint the man I described as a "nitwit", lessening his moral culpability for what he did by alleging his stupidity. If I, an intelligent and educated man, committed the same crime, would you call me a nitwit, or would you grant me enough humanity to actually hold me responsible for my narcissism and cruelty?
Thanks! Yup, I'm open to seeing what other activities we can include in the future. We started with what we know and needed most.

I'm worried about this becoming a "kitchen sink" of all activities and stuff. Also, if the point is to find any activities, why not use MeetUp? (that's a critique we often hear so would like to know what you think!)
The ELI5 version is that if the motion your eyes see doesn't match what the movement/balance sensors in your inner ear feel, your brain thinks the mismatch is because you ate something you shouldn't and begins inducing vomiting. Motion sickness.

The result is that games where your real world movement matches the game world movement, such as games like Beat Saber, MOST people feel fine. But in a game where the movements don't match, such as any racing or flying game, and any game where you move by holding a button or stick, motion sickness sets in VERY quickly for most people.

Lag between moving your head and moving the image creates motion sickness because it creates the mismatch. Getting head tracking latency down to zero frames was a real innovation on the Oculus Rift and is an absolute requirement for any VR headset. Secondly, the frame rate needs to be high. The original Rift was 90 fps. Valve Index is up to 144 fps. Quest 2 I THINK is designed for 80 fps IIRC.

In some games, like MS Flight Simulator, it's not really possible to achieve the 144 fps my Index supports without turning the graphics wayyyy down. In this case, the software performs dynamic reprojection when I move my head. Essentially, it just moves the last frame rendered frame around the display to mimic what its movement should be. Of course, it has the side effect that the edges of vision are just black if there's no rendered data, but it's enough to prevent motion sickness when looking around the cockpit at only 40 fps.

Naturally, that's moot when I actually start flying the plane. As soon as the plane starts moving, I feel queasy.

But with enough practice, it can be overcome. The human brain is quite adaptive and can eventually learn to not care about the visual/physical mismatch.
LOL @ the person that thinks it's not hard to hire experienced data engineers. There's tons of junior folks around but hiring someone that has experience with working with complex data at the scale twitter has is not easy at all.
The first statement is true; the second is a non-sequitur.
So I think saying it's all of the community is a little generous, it's like 20 people who've signed, and yes even then. A private conversation should have happened. As an outsider, that's a hearsay situation to me so forgive me if I don't outright trust the intentions of the small group of people who put out this letter, I don't know anything about them.

And if the situation actually is as nefarious as you say it is, with communication having broken down, the letter should have called that out directly instead of being wishy washy. If people feel that strongly about it not being a mistake, time to use strong language and lay out all the facts.
Not a fan of Musk, but.. it is officially his business. Why do you assume he was not spending that time getting re-org plan in place? It is not narcissism. It is "I bought something and I want to make it look the way I want to."
If musk can mouth off on situations he’s completely unqualified to comment on, then I’d like to think us lowly plebs still have that right too
Yes, there should be, in addition to financial penalties. Unfortunately, what is considered to be a "fair" punishment for a corporation rarely ever reaches the level of criminal prosecution and never forces the corporation to change its operating strategy. In an ideal world, corporations would be punished financially, criminally, and be forced to reorganize whenever they attempt to wipe obvious dangers under the rug for profit's sake.
https://twitter.com/dee_bosa/status/1586043571081134080

> They are visibly shaken. Daniel tells us he owns a Tesla and doesn’t know how he’s going to make payments.

Aren't Silicon Valley Engineers paid well enough not to have such troubles? Especially after the stock vesting and layoff bonus and stuff?
Most likely the user deleting their own tweet (see https://twitter.com/dee_bosa/status/1586055365409443840)
> the worst legal human driver

Maybe they should be illegal if they are worse than this: https://youtu.be/3mnG_Gbxf_w
Here I am, the copywriter slash programmer slash musician. Yes, I play the keyboard.
I'm hearing these two guys were IRL trolls (not Twitter employees), and CNBC was bamboozled.
Twitter only makes money through advertising and data engineering is absolutely critical to figure out targeting for ads.
Well, it's not like they've been doing any work the last few years. The gravy train has left the station.
One billionaire replaced another billionaire at the helm of a major company, and proceeded to restructure the company. That happens all the time, and no one hears about it or cares. The only reason this is front page news is the anticipated changes in censorship policy.
I think the more accurate statement would be:

People are coming to realize that billions in revenue without any kind of margin may not materialize in these business eventually becoming sufficiently profitable,

And/or

They may not be able to find a bigger fool to buy from them at a high price.

Surely all these smart investors already knew
retail businesses only earn sub 5% profit margins. They were/are betting on Amazon’s infrastructure as a service, platform as a service, and web services to deliver fat profit margins.
I don't agree with character assassinations on HN, but you can see it right there in their comment on Reddit.

SJW is a pejorative, and by associating statutory rape with it, he is belittling and dismissing the validity of the term, which is in turn defending it.

Words matter.
That is all that the far right have, unsubtle threats of violence to try to get people to obey by fear.
It is a little surprising but honestly a lot of people here just don't use Twitter at all. It's like the platonic ideal of a bubble. I know it's the primary communication platform for a lot of important politicians and corporations and whatnot but I genuinely don't believe my life would be impacted in any way if Twitter collapsed tomorrow. Those people will find somewhere else to post.
> He's gotta find $1.3 Billion in costs and fix that. Firing thousands of engineers will get him..partially there

Musk doing the full heel turn from "just let me work" engineer to the cost cutting MBA bro.
Do you really need corroboration that this is what most data engineers do at most companies?
YouTube is/was a really good YouTube. It should stop trying to be a second-rate TikTok.
Everything also have a rounded corner now. This is only in my A/B test group though, I don't see it when in incognito.
Yikes. I knew about him “marrying” his 13yo cousin, but the suspicious deaths of two of his later wives? Sometimes it’s worth it to separate the art from the artist… but in his case i have a hard time seeing any reason to
Elon financed the deal, so presumably the bank that loaned him all this money could demand information from Elon, or demand that Elon recollateralize the loan[0] if he were to destroy Twitter's value.

That's of course assuming the bank asked for any of this when negotiating financing.

You can see this in his recent statements walking back the whole "free speech extremist" thing. Putting aside the fact that Elon does not practice what he preaches, and my personal belief that free speech should not be afforded to censorious political ideologies[1], you simply cannot run a 100% unrestricted free-for-all and expect to make money off of it. Users don't want to use a platform full of spam, advertisers do not want to be on the same platform as Nazis, etc.

If Elon had self-financed everything then none of the above would apply and he could do anything he wants with it. Unban everyone, ban everyone, shut the whole thing down, etc.

[0] Repay the loan immediately to compensate for the loss in value of the property - in this case, Twitter's potential sale value.

[1] Nazis and tankies[2]. No freedom for dictators.

[2] Authoritarian-left on the political compass. The people who deny the holodomor, cheered for the Soviet Union crushing Yugoslavia in the 70s, think Ukraine is actually run by neo-Nazis (it's not), etc.
that's unfortunate of course. it's almost certainly going to be able to be restored though. I wouldn't put the frame of a piece of artwork into the "priceless" category though.
I did not mean just tech workers.

Society follows the demands of a minority of wealth holders. Science minded engineers who prattle on about doing for science not “story mode”.

There is no science that suggests the leaders we have are infallible. It’s all politically correct story-mode based drivel to follow these “leaders”.

The technology changes but human agency has not moved on from being captured by high minded empty promises of forced expansion and growth for humanity; we’ll be long dead and never able to verify.

Their past success is leveraged to prop up caricature of who we should aspire to. Meanwhile their success is traditional political corruption.
I guess I was fooled by the exact wording you used like the parent poster. Was there any particular reason for that?
I would guess he wants to fire the entire team handling the data so he can more easily cook the books, and pretend like he's making a killing on Twitter - and try to flip it to some even more egotistical Billionaire.
It's likely deleted because the author realized it's almost definitely fake. There's no way only two people were laid off, and wanted to stand outside and give interviews. Their boxes are mostly empty, and it's such a cliche to "get fired" with a box of your stuff.
another link from a different reporter:

https://twitter.com/dee_bosa/status/1586042389851820034
According to transparency international, Singapore is one of the least corrupt countries on earth. If a politician could make several million dollars a year just from his job, you could attract major corporation CEO caliber people. Otherwise, why would a highly talented person want to deal with untangling that mess?
> EV charging works because the electrical grid already existed, chargers just need to be plugged into it.

Electric grid may exist, but it's capacity is not enough to handle the additional load of the car charging. Sure, it can take car here or there, but replacement for current ICEs? No way.
Ah, you have a good heart to give them the benefit of the doubt but remember these aphorisms:

A fish rots from the head down.

and

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

and

Nothing disinfects better than sun light.

IMHO they all apply when dealing with public servants in unchecked positions of power.
The embedded tweet was a prank, guy gives his name as "Rahul Ligma"

https://twitter.com/wealthycfo/status/1586053744269340672?s=...
Those aren't bankers boxes. This has to be fake.
https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1586055789562634240

But is it real?
Probably because the interviewees were playing a prank; one gave his name as "Rahul Ligma"[0] (as in "lig ma balls", referencing a meme)

[0] https://twitter.com/WealthyCFO/status/1586053744269340672
Interesting - it's not on his LinkedIn and according to Twitter he no longer works there. But seems he was helping them on a contract basis for a bit.
Ok, we've changed to that from https://twitter.com/anthony/status/1586047790341398534. Thanks!

Edit: changed from https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/28/departing-twitter-employees-... to a more accurate report now.
If you object to the very concept of a forum why do you have an account here? What are your qualifications to comment on how qualified others are to comment on Musk and his activities?
Unless he thinks Twitter doesn't need data engineers at all, they now have to staff an entire department from scratch, with zero handoff of institutional and tribal knowledge. Maybe on a long enough time horizon, they're really that bad that it's worth it anyway, but realistically, I doubt Twitter has just been hiring nothing but worthless shitheads. Whatever you think you can achieve with a new team could have been achieved with at least some of these people. It's like sacking the entire Los Angeles Lakers. Yeah, they suck and they're an embarrassment, but there aren't literally zero salvageable personnel and you can't hope to field a better team from scratch within a few seasons, and you'll have to overpay just to try. At least there is no salary cap for tech firms, so they're legally allowed to overpay, but seeing the company is a mess and you risk being fired en masse just to put on a show for the press as far as I can tell, you're going to have to overpay even more now.

Maybe his plan is to automate it all? Full self data engineering within 5 years?
It's going to be especially hard to restaff the team with the implicit threat of "and if you don't tell Elon what he wants to hear, he'll fire the entire team again" hanging over it.
> he bought because of what he thinks he can make it.

He bought because it is his favorite place to be, he said he would as a joke, decided why not and made an offer right before a massive valuation drop, and then was forced to by the courts if he wanted to avoid disclosing a lot of personal information. I don't think that he actually fantasizes about it making money.
That's what I thought about tumblr, then they all came to reddit.
I agree. I find canary or blue/green deployments paired with good rollback plans to be more valuable than a staging environment, yet I see them utilized less. I'm not sure why, though.
Ah yes the great mind that gave us:

- Calling hero divers pedophiles

- Covid will be over by summer

- Twitter poll Ukrainian peace

- FSD is coming in ~2015~ ~2016~ ~2017~ ~2018~ ~2019~ ~2020~ ~2021~ 2022

- Cybertruck coming in ~2020~ ~2021~ ~2022~ 2023

- Freight Truck coming in ~2019~ ~2020~ ~2021~ 2022

- Roadster v2 coming in ~2020~ ~2021~ 2022

Where won't his brilliance take us next
To be fair, he tried pretty hard to not do it. He ran his mouth, now he's dealing with it as he sees fit since he bought it. He can throw a tantrum all he wants. He's never going to see the repercussions of his knee jerk reactions, but all of the people on the receiving end are now rethinking their holiday plans.

I honestly hope he ends up killing Twitter. Maybe we can convince him to buy the next social platform and then lather, rinse, repeat until he becomes the savior we didn't want but the savior we needed in eliminating the cancer that social has become.
> xactly for how they implemented and supply a 12V solution (which includes both the physical products they supply, and the messaging they've put out around it) which this article yet again underlines as being both real, and even worse than initially thought.

I'd recommend people gloating to read the article.
EDIT: (see my edit below).

The conclussions are clear:

- The problem is NOT the new connection; that's fine. New PSUs come with a connection that does not need any adaptor and those are safe and work fine.

- The problem is a poor quality adaptor shipped with 4090s for people that buy a 1600$ GFX but then skimp on a new PSU and want to pair it with an old one (EDIT: skimp is out of place and victim blaming, I'd guess it would be more appropiate to have said here that NVIDIA and partners decided to add an adapter to avoid suggesting that users need a new PSU).

These adaptors are distributed by NVIDIA but build by a supplier. Igor's recommendation is, I quote: "NVIDIA has to take its own supplier to task here, and replacing the adapters in circulation would actually be the least they could do.".

EDIT: This comment can be misunderstood as me speculating whether the OP read the article or not. I am not speculating: the OP did not read the article, which claims the opposite of what the OP claims. The OP claims that 12V solutions are the issue, while the article states that they are fine, and as proof shows that new PSUs implement them correctly. In fact the _goal_ of the article is to set the record straight about this, by precising that the only problem is the quality of the adapter, not 12 V per se. So this comment is not an speculation about whether the OP read the article or not, but a response to set the record straight for those who might read OPs comment only, but not the article (I often come to HN for the comments more than the articles, so I'd find such a comment helpful myself).