skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> No extra raw materials were required to get from the planks of wood to the chair but value was created anyway.

The labor required to build the chair is one additional ingredient. The transformation of wood and nails to chair does not happen spontaneously.
Per capita emissions in the US and other western nations are declining even when you account for production shifted to other countries

https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/no-the-us-didnt-outsource-...

I don't truly see the "no one knows how to do anything end to end". This is somewhat true - but I don't know if 500 years ago the same person necessarily knew how to work with bronze and to raise cattle and to preserve foods for the winter. Perhaps it seems easier since there was less things, but there was also a lot less ability to move around and learn about things so I'm not so sure.

Ultimately it seems like the absolute worst case scenario is that a shock causes a partial collapse of western society to the point where people are very poor and not able to use technology we take for granted, but this is pretty close to what an honest degrowther sees as the best case scenario. If you want to experience life as it existed before modern technology there are plenty of places in the world that moreorless still live as they did hundreds of years ago - and it would only be romanticizing them so say they dont have their own very severe issues that are objectively worse than what we have.
Florida has laws on the books that let anyone go to a judge to get an order for forced treatment of someone else for mental illness or addiction. With the Marchman Act, non-compliance with treatment can have legal consequences, as well.

From here[1]:

> What happens if the respondent isn’t compliant with the treatment order?

> It’s up to the judge but the idea is that non-compliance with a court order equates to contempt of court and is punishable by jail time. This is where the “teeth” or consequences are introduced for someone refusing to comply with the treatment plan. However, we have found that many counties do not enforce treatment orders with jail time.

When the option is to be compliant with treatment or be held in contempt of court, that sounds like force.

[1] https://marchmanactflorida.com/faq/
> I'm fairly convinced that unique insight is just a VC pitch thing

Ask HN: do the great majority of competitors improperly understand the core insights behind a product?

When I have been involved with successful products in the past, most competitors were ineffective because to me it seemed they missed something critical to the success of our product. Effective competitors are rare in my experience. Are startups in this decade better at grokking the core insights and improving upon that? Disclaimer: my experience is in the wopwops on the edge of the world (New Zealand), and I am also out of date.

Also, it is my impression that what everyone “knows” is important to a product market is often well off the mark (morphic-resonance gone wrong ;-). If lucky, we all finally catch up with the insight that a founder had, but only after the insight has lost its unique value (maybe a few years). The cliché of yelling a valuable idea and nobody hearing it (part of the insight’s value is often that it is misunderstood - sometimes even though it has already been proven valuable!).

Obviously the only competitor that would matter is the one that understood the insights. But does that competitor always exist… In a complex dynamic market the efficient market theory is wrong in practice I believe.
Run by people who constantly make decisions that are contrary to what its community and supporters want?
> a catalyst

For better or for worse.
Idk, I got a ~400% raise over 3 years as I showed I was more valuable than my comp and got the right ears to listen to that, with help of a V-level who recognized it. I’m not saying that will be everyone’s experience, but its odds become much more favorable for people hopping startups with smaller overall org charts
I’ve setup nix home-manager such that, if I clone my dotfiles repository and setup home.nix (link it into place and make any machine-specific edits necessary), then home-manager will install a predictable version of vim, clone my plugin manager into the right place and symlink my vimrc into the right place. Then, on first launch, all my plugins install themselves and I’m ready to go.
> > presented with numbers about declining trust

> proceeds to distrust the numbers

thanks.
Sure, but with a declining population in most modernized societies the kind of growth expected by our current economic model simply isn't forthcoming.
You can just curl main.tar.gz which has a predictable url
I think ‘worst’ is very subjective here. It certainly does aim to be an all-encompassing ‘framework’ — but this is hardly unusual amongst web libraries (not just for Haskell!), and I feel Yesod gets the job done pretty well. Of course, Haskell has many alternatives if you don’t like Yesod: amongst other libraries, there’s Servant [0], snap [1], scotty [2], and the lower-level wai [3] and warp [4] if you feel the need for that kind of control.

[0] https://hackage.haskell.org/package/servant

[1] https://hackage.haskell.org/package/snap

[2] https://hackage.haskell.org/package/scotty

[3] https://hackage.haskell.org/package/wai

[4] https://hackage.haskell.org/package/warp
> This study says "no effect on overall mortality".

This would be convincing if mortality were the only measure that mattered, but it isn't. Covid can cause brain, lung, and heart problems that will haunt children for the rest of their lives. We already know that it can cause problems in those organs for months[1].

We also know that long after adults recover from Covid, their risk of all-cause mortality is increased[2].

If vaccines don't increase mortality, then preventing the illness is an extremely compelling reason to recommend it to all children.

1. https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/long-covid-in-kids

2. https://ufhealth.org/news/2022/uf-study-post-covid-mortality...
I suppose it would be nice to make friends through HN, but I don't even read the usernames anymore. And even if I did, with so many comments, I'm not sure I could remember who say what
People in US seem so freaked about it. I don't think many people in EU would care that you have a gap. Great you will join in as fresh.
Further I think you can just write "working on personal endeavors"... which you will. Many people have gaps on startups that failed and now there is even no website to show, no?
No, it’s just a toxic destructive culture that’s destroying lives. I’m not convinced, I tried to see the best in what you’re saying.
The labor is a small fixed cost. Depending on what is done with the labor the leverage is potentially infinite (eg. many internet business that earn a million or more per year for every employee they have hired).

Growth can happen by getting the same labor to do something more valuable (maybe building houses instead of chairs?)
I think the reason for it is that those conversations tend to focus on local community as it relates to society's ability to support its existing retirement model. This conversation is then repeated across multiple countries with varying degrees of intensity, urgency and political backing. In the old country ( Poland ) for example, in 2016 ruling party introduced a stipend for each kid[1]. The official results don't seem to support the approach though[2]. I guess my point is that it may be existential crisis for some communities more than others.

Naturally, it does not help that discussion of it almost invariably brings a question of overpopulation and all the baggage that brings.

[1]https://ec.europa.eu/social/main.jsp?langId=en&catId=1246&ne...
[2]https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/poland-populatio...
> Visiting a site, accidental or otherwise, isn't relevant.

Might not be relevant to your point but it is relevant to the discussion.
Looks like they're mostly working on making the appearance property work the same across browsers, they aren't actually standardizing the shadow dom used to render the elements.
The conference mentioned in the article:

Espressif DevCon22 - Oct 19, 2022 - Day 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l29cTFS27w

Espressif DevCon22 - Oct 20, 2022 - Day 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgRzpbZM5QY
FWIW, the V folks demonstrate translating DOOM source to V and compiling it:

https://youtu.be/6oXrz3oRoEg
https://github.com/vlang/doom
I do. But when that makes me sad I think of the following bit from The Chronicles of Riddick:

Imam:
"Have you heard anything I've said?"

Riddick:
"You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?"

Imam:
"That's right."

Riddick:
"Had to end sometime."
ECT, due to the potential side effects and Ketamine due to how recent it is are both near the "last lines of defence".

IRRC both of them cannot compare to psychotherapy, which has far higher effectiveness at the cost of far more resources.
Faster Wi-Fi on Planes Is Taking Off. Profits Aren’t
>have you not heard about the NFT that is a title to a house? whoever owns that NFT owns that house

a court can still decide who owns the house, regardless of where the NFT is. If someone squats in your house you're going to need the existing legal system to deal with it, and they dont care about your NFT. The whole thing will still rely on the courts, the law, and law enforcement.

Its 100% nonsense.
Labour is people, which need food and water.
These are great references. Thanks for putting this together and I agree with your assessment. Logically it is impossible to have infinite growth on a finite planet. Destructive human activity in the past tended to be isolated but the rise of industrial society and machinery has made local human activity a global problem (industrial societies produce a lot of CO2 and there is no way around this).

On top of this there is also the problem of an economic model that incentivizes ransacking natural resources in order to turn it into profits. That's probably the main reason there is a lot of pushback to degrowth philosophies because it requires a fundamentally new way of measuring economic activity and value. No economic models properly account for biospheric destruction and resource depletion from human economic activity so almost all existing economic thinking is completely useless for addressing the current crisis.

All the pie in sky solutions to the current crisis assume we solve the problem of limited energy resources and then use this newly abundant source of energy to terraform the planet and fix the problems created by industrial activity. I'm calling it pie in the sky because I have seen no real concerted effort to actually make this happen. The timelines for fusion reactors make no sense and will not be ready in time to address the impending ecological disasters. Almost every other technical solution is equally nonsensical, e.g. AGI.
You are excluding human labor, which requires energy, which brings us back to thermodynamics.
each time a new unicode version is introduced, you get new backward compatibility issues
Unrelated means two things are not related in any sense. Orthogonal means two things are unrelated with respect to a specific property.

Unrelated is more general, and less precise. Orthogonal restricts the "unrelatedness" to the specific property being discussed. It's also a very visual and intuitive word.

It's not only HN btw.
> Zig also takes this approach

D took the much more fun way, which is to implement a new C parser from scratch and tweak the D lexer and semantics to handle the differences of C. It's not too bad, about 5000 lines of D:

https://github.com/dlang/dmd/blob/master/compiler/src/dmd/cp...
This period of peace time is, admittedly, because world war 3 will end human life on earth and it’s making leaders slightly more shy than usual

It doesn’t even have to be a world war. It will only take 1 nation to make the choice

We’re one mistake from extinction
This is a really strange mindset to me - if Ketamine is working why bother even considering switching?
To quote the Instapundit: "I'll believe it's a crisis when the people telling me it's a crisis start acting like it's a crisis."

There seems a pile of circumstantial evidence that the rotating series of crises may merely be a device for controlling the masses through fear.
> that is what a ban is. NO LONGER POSSIBLE.

You should have kept reading.

> "The authority said that some children with an increased risk would still be eligible for vaccination, after an assessment from a doctor."

So that is not what a ban is. It's still possible for children to get vaccines, and this decision by Denmark isn't proof that it's a bad idea for children to get vaccines or that it's a bad idea for adults to get vaccines.

When you have to grasp at straws like this, doesn't it sometimes feel like maybe (just maybe) it's time to change your mind about this thing that the vast majority of experts disagree with you on?
They won't. It will only help accelerate the move towards concentration to national languages (Standard Chinese in Taiwan and China, French in France, etc.) Why would anyone put the effort to learn a "small" language when it can be translated automatically for understanding?

The way to preserve a language is putting humans in the loop. Creating content in that language; interestingly more and more shows are produced in Taiwan in or using non-Mandarin languages as a political way to mark a difference with the big neighbour. And having government support, notably at school (at young age) by allowing partial or total teaching in the language to be preserved.
> The healthier alternative involves rethinking internet infrastructure on pro-social ends: platforms owned by the people using them with community prerogatives in mind.

The author essentially cites a bunch of unrelated (albeit interesting) statistics, talks (sighs) about "broader cultural shifts", and then on top of all of this drops this little pseudo solution at the end. A pseudo problem followed by a pseudo solution, go figure

There are too many of these bloggers (and opinion columnists) sitting around in armchairs, recycling the same gibberish they read in the Atlantic and waving their hands in the air with respect to "broader cultural shifts"

The second one of these bloggers starts "broader cultural shift"ing is the second I put their blog in the hosts file
If most people aren't able to use those systems, I think it's about as good as unwritten, especially if the target audience is your everyday speaker who wouldn't be familiar.
> Everyone, snap the fuck out of it. Your life sucks, but it also doesn’t. We’re all going to be fine.

This is kinda what I was getting at before. The things that make us uniquely human are our abilities to override our natural tendencies. I figure that's what you're suggesting with this line.

To dig further into what I've said before about people being comfortable and existential concerns, I think part of the problem here is that it is harder to determine how to take action. The gap is quite large from where we are to where we need to be. In every day complications it is easy to break down a need into several tasks with clear goals. Whereas existential and abstract problems seem insurmountable and difficult to break down because of their complexities (a thing humans aren't particularly well equipped to handle through natural means). So it is easier to just lay flat. But I think part of what makes us human is being able to light that internal fire yourself, though it is not anywhere near as simple as it sounds.
Minorities can disproportionately succeed by having extreme in-group preference and solidarity, and something approaching a monopoly on some sort of highly profitable racket. They will end up in a position where they are despised, but protected. Where their in-group solidarity is called out as subversive hate, and they are attacked for this preference, pogroms ensue. I'll just out and say it, a lot of Whites are concerned their children will be treated the same way some of their medieval ancestors treated Jews.
The driverless car revolution is stuck in the slow lane
Again, what you're saying is potentially and practically equivalent to:

"If we put regulations on safety measures in new buildings, such as railings and fire escapes, it will hurt small businesses."

Maybe it will. It's still not an intelligent point. Stop.
> there's no way of our GDP keeps growing indefinitely while reducing our ecological footprint.

Yes there is. We are vastly ineffecient with our use of energy. Fusion power, better use of solar, wind, geothermal power, better energy storage. The amount of solar hitting the Earth every day is several orders of magnitude larger than what is needed to run society at our current level. There is no shortage of energy, only our ability to make use of it.

Obviously nothing grows indefinitely. Eventually the sun will go supernova and consume the solar system. For an amount of energy needed to sustain human life comfortably, there is more than enough.

The degrowthers would have us go back to living in grass huts and dying in droves from diseases we have long since eradicated. It is not a way forward. It is species suicide.
It sounds like your beef is with Cloudflare though, no? As the argument is that harassing people online is free speech that Cloudflare could have ignored, sued to stop, or complained to law enforcement about, had they chosen?
What is system thinking and why is it important?
Biggest advantage I find is pre-scoped request-level control over everything. When someone loads your page, every single asset request hits your worker. It's both extremely simple and exceptionally powerful. Choose which responses to modify, authenticate, proxy, redirect, or let through. All in a single file with a few dozen LOC. No complex pre-app devops, middleware or routing policies required (i.e. oh sorry that route is proxied by a lambda, or you should check the cloudflare dash there's a worker sitting in front of that).

Yes, there are a bunch of limitations - but in practice I quite appreciate the boundaries and the reasoning. There's also the portability question, but we're talking about PaaS. As someone who was using Firebase for many years, and static AWS + lambda prior to that I find this evolution entirely refreshing.

I've pushed 5 personal projects on pages since Jan and working on more. Most recently https://thesom.au/gh/cvms
Do you have a citation for that list, preferably that also has includes how common each side effect it?
1. No. People are getting dumber at (IIRC) about 0.6 IQ points per 10 years. Obviously this is going to make society and technology worse. It's like every month that something breaks around the house and I can't find somebody who knows how it works. Tech support used to be tolerable but now it's useless.

2. I don't know what you mean by "collapse", but yes it's a belief. "Tech will save us" is one of the (IIRC) 3 textbook responses to the climate change narrative.

3. IDK it looks like Western Europe is de-industrializing, we'll see how much this winter but I'm hearing about large industries shutting down in response to fuel prices. They're definitely not trying to prevent panic, just trying to maintain hypernormalization.

4. They are and you can go outside and you can find them. You don't hear about it on the internet because the internet is run by multinational corporations selling you products made many thousands of miles from where you live.

4.1 Technology is a force multiplier - people with more technology are better at conquering their rivals. I think this is mentioned in Industrial Society and it's future.
This reads like a conspiracy theory. It's just pictures of products with overlays that say "what if there was an ad here??".

And the accusation that "WHATS REALLY GOING ON with strict privacy is they are STRATEGICALLY ELIMINATING THE COMPETITION!!1!" is even worse.
Or, more accurately, not reporting to the researchers that you're feeling incredibly depressed.
Plenty of criticism to be found about Win95/98.

The control panel and menus upon menus upon menus were not very user friendly. The design was built around low-res CRT screens, which very negatively affects modern screens. Hitboxes were often small, especially for the mice at the time. Commonly used UI elements such as the start menu lacked tons of features we take for granted now (searching in the start menu, for example). Icons were low-res and not always clear, though they were made excellently with more care than any other facet of any modern piece of software I can think of. Navigation controls were severely limited, simple things like breadcrumb navigation simply wasn't invented yet.

Windows XP fixed a lot of small issues found in the Win9x/Win2k UI styling. It had its own problems, but going back to the 9x days is not always an improvement.

It says a lot that I find the 9x style so much easier to use than the "modern" flat designs. It's like we're back in the middle of DOS text characters all over again, having UI elements execute actions after you've guessed about what they might do.

As for a modern take on old ideals, the SerenityOS design is an amazing combination of Win9x/Win2k ideas and modern controls. ReactOS is also used to have a new take on the old style, but that has been modernized to Win10-like menu bars in recent releases.
I'm not sure I understand the "Degrowth" premise. It appears to equate economic expansion with resource consumption or population growth. Economic expansion can lead to resource consumption when consuming that resource is what's valued. If everybody valued less-consumptive products and services where they are currently value more-consumptive products and services, then the resulting increase in variety of good and services would be an expansion to the economy, would it not?
Bad people did a bad thing. Go arrest the bad people doing bad things, not the good people trying to help.
I find a lot of typos in documentation and I never create a PR lest people think I am one of those people. They really do make things worse for everyone.
What does building end to end even mean? If i go to china and ask a factory work if they know how to produce the semiconductor in the iPhone they’re assembling will they know? If I go to any major city and ask someone to grow me wheat or corn can they do it successfully? Different people specialize in different things. Maybe a fullstack developer is what you're looking for lmao. This isn’t the medieval times the world and the tools we use are complex we’re not making swords anymore even back then then moat blacksmiths didn’t mine for minerals.
I wonder how virtual economies fit into paradigm of infinite economical expansion.
> I think right now it is likely the current state of the art of quantum computing is being kept under wraps for similar reasons.

If this is the worldview you're operating under I don't think anything I have to say about Defi or NoSQL is going to be very meaningful to you. All the best, though.
Meaning in life is relative. Before folks had odd hobbies that others judged worthless: reading, stamp collecting, fishing for sport, etc.

With more basic needs met I think it's fine folks may spend more time in arbitrary leisure. Even if it means less time doing meat space activities or producing fewer children.
> there's no way of our GDP keeps growing indefinitely while reducing our ecological footprint.

Not necessarily. For exmaple, if I recite a poem to you for a dollar and you sing to me a song for a dollar, GDP increases without changing the ecological footprint.

And even if the ecological footprint per capita is growing, we might be able to reduce the overall ecological footprint in a few decades, when earth's population is declining. It depends on the ratio between the two tendencies.

I am not sure if that will really be the case, but it is a possibility.
I agree, it is hard to form friendships on HN. I've managed to meet some people here in other digital spaces and on average it's been a positive experience. But even so, having a contact form in bio doesn't typically result in many contacts.