skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> just like psychologists and psychiatrists can’t communicate on their different models of the mind!

This is where the analogy breaks down quickly, though.

I realize that the article tells a story about extreme situations where the two were directly at odds, but that is not the state of the art in psychology/psychiatry.

Psychologists and psychiatrists routinely communicate with each other about their models of the mind, and collaborate on the appropriate course of treatment for patients.

For many of the same reasons that some injuries require surgery to fix a serious issue, medication to deal with short term pain, and physical therapy to rebuild the body.
Really?

+ Human beings

+ Dogs

+ Bugs

+ Plants

+ Eukaryotes

+ Viruses

+ Proteins

+ Molecules

+ Atoms

+ Subatomic Particles

+ ???

+ Pure Information, ones and zeros

Here is a line (--------). Place it so that above it, things are conscious, and below it, things are not conscious. It seems very obvious to me that there is nothing special about human beings, (or dogs, or bugs, or plants, or wherever you draw the line), that makes them special and conscious. For example; if you assert that the line is at "Bugs" I could not possibly disprove or prove you right, although I would suspect that you might be a Bug. Likewise, I could assert that your circuit has qualia, and you could never prove or disprove me.

Proving or disproving me is solving the hard problem. It's hard because it's meaningless, because consciousness is either shared by all things; or, shared by no things. Which is, imho, a distinction without a difference.
It's easier than many people make it out to be. I've been given a couple of IQ tests during a hiring in process.
I sadly am.
I also gave them a look, but it seems their bandwidth pricing is significantly higher than hosting it yourself, so the price accelerates much more aggressively with number of users. That much price variability is just too much of a risk (compared to a flatter/more predictable price) when you're also locking into a custom stack and can't migrate out as easily
Define reasonably torturous. Please see https://www.dominionmovement.com/watch and come back to tell me that we know how to humanely grow & kill animals, and that we don't cause them unreasonable suffering by our farming practices.

Define sustainably. If everybody ate like an average american, we would need 4+ earths. Don't forget to count in the wildlife & destruction of oceans. Sustainable economies are mostly plant-based.

https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets
https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impacts-of-food

We eat animals because we were taught to and because the system is set up this way. We can change that and lose nothing (not even the pleasure from the food, however alien vegan food seems to you), and gain/solve everything. We just need to open the eyes and learn to cook differently.

Or eat our way to our extinction. What will we say to our children / grandchildren ? That we liked the steak too much?
Shutting down one of the cleanest and safest sources of electricity (nuclear fission) in favor of a natural gas enabled renewable grid with natural gas primarily supplied by Putin.

Nuclear fission is clean energy.
The wood pellet power used in the UK is pretty sketchy.

Even in the best case, when you cut down a tree, burn it, and plant a replacement you've still released a bunch of carbon into the atmosphere. So carbon in the atmosphere will be raised for 20-50 years.

When people have looked into the source of these wood pellets the claims of the pellet companies often don't line up with official records - like saying they didn't log an old-growth forest, when they held the logging license at the time it was logged. Or claiming they only use sawdust and low-quality wood, when their output volume is much greater than the amount of low-quality wood you'd expect [1].

And supposedly the trees get replanted - but the company doing it got paid when the pellets were delivered. If in 5 years time they decide to do something else with the land, they can do.

The government turns a blind eye to this to hit their 'renewables' targets.

[1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-63089348
IntelliJ does all that much better than what any vim plugin can.

DataGrip wipes the floor with pgcli

How do you find duplicate code with that setup?
They have done it multiple times before.
What size crew do you infer when thinking of a “huge data center”

I’m still thinking it’s just enough to repair failures in a timely manner (and assuming there is spare capacity so you are not blocked if something breaks). Which means only a few hands on deck and the rest being triaged remotely.

Or not maybe we are still in the 90s when you need someone sitting at a desk in a server room to handle password resets :P
That's 1% of the load we'd still need find another 9 to even get to 10%.
There are a lot of jurisdictions in which advertising online (AdWords, Facebook, etc) is restricted (to varying degrees).

I’d suggest this is a part of the need for more writing/content/communication/pr.

We’re also at the stage where it’s moving from the technical to the non-technical audience, and the methods of communicating how products and services on crypto operate requires different people/methods.
The US ruling class benefits from war in Europe in general, geopolitically as well. Intimidating rivals, pitting them against each other, taking over their territory and capital, etc.

Some of us remember the Gulf of Tonkin. It’s entirely in character for the US.
>(Discovery Channel, USA, 22 October 2004)

That's a bit like saying battle bots solved locomotion of robots.
>Not that AMD didn't overprice the AM5 platform, too.

The B chipset is cheap, and AMD mentioned the possibility of $100 boards.

Some boards in the market are actually <$150, yet most motherboard vendors went with outrageous price labels (!), even above $300. I doubt they're "twice as good" as the $150 boards. Prices should become more reasonable as time passes.
I'm curious, how would you handle collaborative editing in nano? All the others seem doable if a bit hacky, but that one confused me.
> I've followed a lot of neuroscience research. I've never seen any that says "hey, we've run into this problem, but it can't be solved by our current understanding of physics."

That's because neuroscience explicitly avoids the philosophical problems of the mind as a premise of the entire discipline. The "hard problem" is that we can reach a point where neuroscience has completely explained human behaviour, and we still won't have explained the existence of experience or how it relates to the physical world. Neuroscience doesn't worry about the "hard problem" because it isn't even close to solving the "easy problem" yet.

> If you experience something, some experience exists. It does not mean that qualia exists.

I believe that "qualia" as used in the context of the "hard problem" is just "experience". It doesn't imply anything more specific than that. To quote Chalmers who coined the term "hard problem":

"...even when we have explained the performance of all the cognitive and behavioral functions in the vicinity of experience—perceptual discrimination, categorization, internal access, verbal report—there may still remain a further unanswered question: Why is the performance of these functions accompanied by experience?"

(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_problem_of_consciousnes...)

What he is talking about is just experience. Not a more specific meaning of qualia (i.e. definition 1, not 2, 3, or 4 on this list https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qualia/#Uses)
Lol. Yes that's the one I meant to comment on. Must have been user error. Thanks!

And someone else made the same point I made (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33209837), so I don't even need to repost. Thanks!
So this might be one of the few Linux-centric tablets capable of running Proton Mail's Bridge connector. The Bridge allows for use of IMAP-capable email clients, and it's only available for x86_64 Linux. All of the cool new Arm-based hardware isn't really supported.
As an aside, you can trivially place the line above humans:

+ ???

+ The Galaxy

+ The entire Biosphere

+ Regions of Space

+ Corporations

+ Humans
Yes you can do all that stuff with like 2 plugins

LITERALLY BUILTIN:
- Edit code
- Do all that remotely or with containers involved
- Spell checking

ALE:
- Autocomplete
- Navigate code, find references, go to definitions
- Run multiple static analyzers simultaneously

DISPATCH:
- Run your code
- Debug your code
- Test your code (including running a specific test)
- Profile your code

FUGITIVE:
- Use version control and annotate code using version control
I think you added some zeroes there. HMS Queen Elizabeth carries about 1.75 million gallons of fuel [1]. she has to fuel up about twice to sail 26,000 Nmi [2]. Pacific is about 8000 Nmi, so round tripping would be roughly a full tank.

1) https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2...

2) https://declassifieduk.org/royal-navys-gunboat-diplomacy-is-....
I disagree with the premise of your answer. The statements "there are new, interesting CLI apps" and "there are more critical GUI apps nowadays" aren't mutually exclusive, actually they both make sense if you consider the number of apps out there is always increasing.
I go for a terminal-first approach. If a CLI exists for what I want to do, I'll try it out.

If a GUI would be easier, I use that. If there is no CLI, I use a GUI.

At least for me, browsing the web, email, creating professional documents and developing large software projects mostly happen in GUIs. There are related tasks that are easy to shell out to, though, so it's not like I'm sticking to GUIs for everything.

I was never a fan of chatting using the terminal, so I use GUIs for that.
I got excited for a moment reading the title thinking it was referring to (disposable) DNS Root Servers, since that is the only context in which I have heard about “root servers” before.
I've had great success with coc.nvim for IDE-like features; it manages language servers for you: https://github.com/neoclide/coc.nvim

For file browser side-panes there are tons of options, but no one ever got fired for using the venerable old NERDTree.

The rest is mostly just tmux!
Sorry, you're right, and I'm sure there's more to the story and that the journalist took license in that introduction. Still it feels like a gratuitously tempting red herring, and the journalist could have toned down that intro story
Nuclear weapons have killed about ~200k people in all of history.

Advertising probably kills that many people most months when you consider things like:

* Convincing people that various groups needs to be genocided

* Convincing people to use cars instead of less dangerous methods of transportation

* Convincing people to use fossil fuels instead of less polluting forms of energy

* Convincing people to eat unhealthy foods

* Convincing people to smoke cigarettes

I'm not convinced that advertising is less dangerous than nuclear weapons.
Thanks for the detailed feedback!

On (1) I can definitely see that — will fix!

(2) yeah I need to go to the source for that, I think podcast index data might have been why? I’m going to double check.

(3) no I’m not! Thank you for the pointer!

I’m going to work on all of this (and tackle the speed issue)
And yet you still can't articulate a single "law of physics" that's going to be violated.

So, I maintain that this is 100% BS, just an argument to authority. If there is an argument in hat book, do you understand enough to give a sketch? Or point to the principle?
I do, but I keep the repo private. I've seen too many people accidentally check their keys into public dotfile repos.

coc.nvim (https://github.com/neoclide/coc.nvim) is a great starting point though!
"And that's how we stopped the Terminators with blockchain, John."
By the time you are half-way configuring that I am already done with my tasks.

By the end of the first sprint you'll have carpal tunnel syndrome.
Here's hoping that this is deliberately obvious but also not deliberately irresponsible...
Thank you for sharing this. Psychoanalysis is often heavily criticized but it has this nice tendency to be curious and open about things and produce intriguing and interesting thoughts
Yep. People talk about the hard problem, but it’s lots of things.

The consciousness process might have obvious components, and many non-obvious ones, but until those factors explain why it seems like a first-person experience…

Well dang, a “first-person experience” remains basically undefined! So we’re not even to that bridge yet!

My guess is that both questions will be answered at about the same time. I highly doubt that we’ll just get scientifically used to “well we get how brains work, so that’s the self.”

At least as long as anyone resembling us keeps wondering, we’ll keep looking.
> because simple technical measures mitigate it.

And what simple technical measure mitigates it in a cost effective manner? Hydroelectricity is one, but it's geographically dependent. Sweden already has about 30% of it's electricity coming from dams, but it still needs to built more nuclear plants to fulfill it's demand. And most countries have even less hydroelectric generation than Sweden.

Besides hydroelectricity, there's batteries which are not able to be built at scale. Then there's experimental solutions like compressed air, chemical storage, or giant flywheels. But none of those have been deployed commercially and thus there's no real-world cost history.

Proclaiming that the solution is simple, yet neglecting to actually specify it is not an effective way to make the case for storage. If you want to make the case for a plan to provision storage, make it and we can discuss that. But apparently, the solution is apparently so simple it defies explanation. How convenient!

Well in that case: we don't need fission, renewables, or storage. I know of a fusion breakthrough that will make electricity to cheap to meter! And it's so obvious I don't need to explain how it works, and anyone who doubts me is a troll.
When Germany bought a lot of solar, it was not cheap. Germany's purchase are one reason that solar is so cheap today.
>Obviously, to size would be less scary.

I was expecting this, since it's probably the most common criticism of this type of visualization.

Problem is, that analysis only looks at half the dataviz fidelity coin. It recognizes the (unavoidable) loss of fidelity in size, but it ignores the (also unavoidable) loss of fidelity in time.

In the real world these objects do not remain orbiting Earth for a few minutes (ie the interval you're likely to look at this visualization). Instead, objects above ~800 km remain in Earth orbit for hundreds to thousands of years.[1]

Mathematically this second inaccuracy tends to cancel out the first inaccuracy, therefore (presumably) making this "a lot more scary/impressive."

Strangely I always see the criticism about size, but I never see the countervailing criticism about time. I suppose it's just like you said: the size factor is "obvious", but the time factor much less so.

Eta: For some great visualizations of the space debris problem, I can heartily recommend this (slightly older) ESA video.[2] It's basically a full-length documentary crammed into 15 minutes.

[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Orbital_Debris_Lifet...

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=13s&v=9cd0-4qOvb0
Yeah so I responded to your joke with a joke then things got all serious because you didn't take it as a joke.

And here we are, two nerds online.
During winter, when electricity needs are high, northern Europe maybe gets total of 0-6 hours of sunlight, and most of is not the optimal angle or intensity. It's also often overcast, so solar barely generates power.

On the worst winter days, when its -5F, and the energy needs are the highest, there is also no wind.

The Baltic Sea also freezes and there is barely any tidal movement.

There isn't really a renewable that works for Northern European energy needs during winter. Hydro is the exception but it's geo based you can't build unlimited hydroplants and also during winter the water levels are not the highest.
What about writing code for decentralized contracts, since contracts are lawyery but I’m writing software and have no formal legal background or credentials? Surely no one would object to me using the term “lawyer” for that!
It’s not a defence its an acknowledgement.

Personally speaking I have more to gain from American imperialism than from Chinese imperialism.
Over its lifetime 2014-now, ARKK +67% has lost handsomely to Nasdaq +129% and SP500 +85%

It's not just terrible year, it's terrible fund made to ride boom and generate management fees.
It's interesting to consider the way in which social welfare systems developed.

The concept originated in Imperial Germany under Otto Bismark, in the 1880s I believe, though there were precursors in Prussia and elsewhere dating to the 1840s.

In the U.S., Social Security was modeled in many ways on the Railroad Retirement Act of 1934, including the structure of account numbers (the 3-2-4 format, though RRA accounts begin with an 'R' rather than a numeric digit). This preceded the Social Security Act by only one year. The federal law was in addition to company-based pensions, which were proving problematic.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railroad_Retirement_Board>

Both the RRA and SSA were passed during a deep financial crisis, the Great Depression.

India's history differs in many regards, and I'd suspect that demographics (a large youthful population) play a strong role --- family obligations can substitute for a formal federalised programme. I also suspect that India's somewhat decentralised government (many states operate with a large degree of autonomy) might make for regional programmes, say, in Kerala State, which tends to be much more progressive than other areas, though that's conjecture on my part, I'm not familiar with that aspect of Indian policy or politics.

More on contemporary Indian welfare policy here:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_security_in_India>

Interestingly, I've just learned via Wikipedia, India has one of the oldest welfare state traditions dating to the 3rd century BCE under emperor Ashoka:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_state#India>
Cool. Just a few thoughts:

The tech and engineering discipline are always going to be worst than FAANG or one of the darling startups. That's part of what they pay the big bucks for, to minimize attrition. The flipside is that you can have an outsized impact you probably can't at a FAANG. These are the qualities you want to emphasize to get hired from industry. Hedge funds hire a lot of green kids out of good colleges so you need to bring something to the table more than just being a smart person.

It's also probably not super helpful to you right now but the industry is pretty small. Once you've had success at one hedge fund it's pretty easy to get interviews at the others.
Worth noting that understanding why a problem occurs is not the same as treating that underlying condition. And moreover, you can treat and even cute something without fully understanding the precise mechanics of its attack vector, per say.
Those ideas come with having explicit pictures as under "doing something wrong"
> We already don't know where to put the nuclear waste. No one wants it on his or her doorstep.

How about with their very friendly neighbors across the Baltic Sea who are about to finish a facility for exactly this purpose? https://www.science.org/content/article/finland-built-tomb-s...

Even ignoring this, pearl clutching about the nuclear waste storage problem without directly contrasting it with the CO2 waste problem is highly problematic. Nuclear waste is a contained, tractable problem even if challenging. We barely even know where to begin with tackling the problem of removing gigatons of CO2 from the high atmosphere.
KBS-3 (Kärnbränslesäkerhet)
> would you have to recalculate all row values every time the corpus changes

Yep, I mean this is always the case for corpus-level algos right?

No reason you can’t do it iteratively —- postgres has triggers…

Oh but actually thinking about it, it could be a function! You’d just need access to that intermediate representation.

> I suspect most people would not be interested in such an approach, instead either making do without TF/IDF, or moving to a non-pg solution.

Well people would be happy if it was there at all, I think. Then they could at least make the choice or have a decent option.

It probably won’t be as performant as other solutions which can make more drastic architecture changes but… might still be worth having
They've always been endemic in HN. https://hn.algolia.com/?q=burned+out

I don't actually see them outside HN. It could just be that the kind of people who read about tech as a form of procrastination get burned out faster.
In my case the app in question is about ~6MB and an occasionally used utility, I could make a setup version that dynamically loads things... but why? Most users would prefer to just use it, delete it, and if they need it again grab it again.
> The one substrate we can be sure of is capable of producing consciousness?

How can you be sure that anyone other than you is conscious? Why shouldn't animals be conscious?
RISC-V Public review for standard extensions Zc
Well, the joke was awful, but at least your response to it got a chuckle.
Please don't attack others on HN.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
I agree that it is not the only thing that puts people off. The cost is a significant challenge.

But I think it is one of the biggest factors. You even display some of it yourself in the way you refer to dream analysis and Freud. It’s not just you, psychoanalysts themselves have anxieties about delving into the uncertain, unproven speculative parts of their minds.

The hatable thing about psychoanalysis is that it often suggests that we cause our own suffering. I’m repeating myself, but I don’t think that’s a welcome message for basically anyone (and obviously, it is not true in many cases). And that kind of explanation can be oppressive, when misused.
There's too much here to really reply to, but I will say this:

1. the existence of GPT3 and its cousins I think comes close to, if not actually proving, then severely tilting the scale in favor of "you do not need consciousness or qualia to participate in relatively human conversation and self-reporting". This means that scenarios where you interrogate a system to see what it thinks are going to rapidly become less and less interesting and less and less convincing as an indication of anything interesting.

2. The problem with qualia is that their subjective nature (coupled with the self-reporting dilemma mentioned in 1. above) means that it is essentially impossible to know whether a given system/individual is experiencing them or not. Do I think that the system you've described could exist without qualia? I do. Do I think it could report qualia without actually having them? I do. Do I think it might actually have qualia? Yes, possibly, but with a lot of caveats.
I've used IntelliJ plenty, and it's pretty bad at most of those tasks. Using the git CLI is much better for version control than the Jetbrains GUI wrapper; using Docker itself rather than a wrapper is much better for containers; etc etc. I'm sort of amazed the question of "can you do version control in a terminal" is even being asked... That's where git originated! That's the git team's primary development focus even today!

"Can you run multiple static analyzers simultaneously"... That's sort of the point of *nix systems: multiple processes running simultaneously. Using the shell is of course going to allow that, especially with something like tmux!

Most of the editor questions were also answered by my original post (and the answer was yes).
Absolutely. The HN that hates crypto would have shutdown email due to romance scams.

But they love the value of their startup(s) && SF housing when the speculation on assets benefits them directly.

Programmable money is here to stay. Just like email.