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> Apple's messages app isn't really an app; it comes preinstalled on the phone, you can't remove it or substitute it with another app, and you can't install it on non-Apple hardware.

I'm not sure, but I don't think you can actually uninstall the default SMS from Android phones either without having another app installed at a minimum and then I bet similar to Messages if you were to somehow uninstall that app then the default app would appear since it's probably part of the core operating system (similar to other basic functionality like settings or a phone app to receive calls).

I don't know what you mean by you cannot substitute Messages with another app. If I didn't want to use Messages I would just disable all settings and remove it from the home screen and use whatever I wanted instead just fine.

You are correct that you cannot install Messages on non-Apple hardware. Not all software is open source or available for all platforms. For example I cannot install Playstation software on my Xbox, nor can I buy a Nest Thermostat and install a competitor's software on it (without hacking both of course). There are games that are made that aren't created with support for macOS. Etc.

> if you're part of Apple-oriented chat groups you can't switch to Android without losing access to those groups

What is an Apple-oriented chat group?
> I would say there's a correlation between less government and worse living conditions on average

I think this is true, but I don't think the correlation is causal. Rich countries throughout history have tended to grow their governments after becoming rich by adopting social programs and trying to flex their muscle internationally. Most of Europe followed this model, as did the US.
i dont understand your reply

"sell me F# meme", what is that, F# is one of my favorite languages, I like a lot OCaml and languages similar to it
Yeah, I'll just tell the gas company, electric company, internet provider, my bank, my elderly neighbor who can barely use a phone and I taught how to text, every restaurant I order online from, the plumber I just texted literally an hour ago due to a pipe leaking to just... not use SMS. I'm sure they'll listen.

I assume you live in a place where SMS isn't necessary? In the U.S. it is.
Yes, it wouldn't be 3D, but what you are alluding to is projection (X onto Y, or more generally instead of X which would be orthogonal only, a 1D plane of any orientation - AKA line segment) ultimately you are still looking at a 1D image, but it has a 2D shape projected onto it that changes depending on both your orientation and position, so that you can perceive part of the 2D shape's surface as you move.

And this would be more physically correct than either Mario or Mar1D.

The generalisation, starting in 3D, is that you can project the surface of a 3D object onto a 2D plane (which is how we see)... we get a little bit more by gauging depth through stereo separation but ultimately we only get to see one 3D projection onto a 2D plane at any point in time, i.e the entire 3D surface is not accessible, we can't see behind it, or inside it, and the perception of 3D is constructed in our mind from a combination of general learned/evolved intuition of 3D space and shape and temporal samples for a particular scenario e.g looking around the object from different angles.

Projection can extend to higher and lower dimensions, e.g in 4D space the surface of a 4D object can be projected onto a 3D "plane"; and as you are suggesting, for 2D space you can project a 2D object onto a 1D plane. The projection changing depending on the orientation and position of either the shape or eye/camera.

Normal 2D game rendering doesn't really make any physical sense as a projection unless you consider them to be a narrow 3D world (consider the fact that you can see the entire surface of a square and inside of the square, but Mario the character cannot possibly see this, only a small part of the surface).

But this is all based on a "projection" with the assumption of a lot of opacity... if each particle received from the projection also contained accurate enough depth information and was a vector of all depths traversed for some limit, then full 3D could be perceived in a single 2D projection within a 3D world i.e if you could see "through" objects while still being able to sample each depth.
> Why are we not discussing that?

Because it's not one company that's a bad actor, is every company that sells anything anywhere. So it doesn't make a lot of sense to just blame every company.

Even if the US banned single use plastic, (which would have a ton of other negative environmental effects, due to the higher carbon and water footprint) it still wouldn't have much of an effect on where most of the Plasti CI coming from, poor countries.

The blindingly obvious solution is to figure out how to help/incentivize/fund better trash management systems in poor countries.
Maybe because it's not actual AI.
It's already bad enough that I would never be able to convince family today to switch to Signal due to the removal of SMS history importing and now you want to remove the ability to send/receive SMS via Signal too? Good job guaranteeing you just cratered any additional growth of your userbase.

I've always wondered how companies become so blind to what their userbase actually wants and needs (looking at the majority of the rest of the comments here that seem to echo my sentiment as well) that we end up in situations like this. I guess "you die a hero or live long enough to become the villain" applies to apps too.
One bright side of this is that Android's (Google's) Messages app has been pushing hard on RCS (the intended successor to SMS) and by default now does auto-upgrade to end-to-end encryption with any other messages users. If you're using signal, you don't get that auto-upgrade, so for conversations with anyone using a "default" google phone setup you were actually getting less net security on your comms compared to using the default SMS app.

I noticed this when I got a new phone and hadn't yet enabled signal to handle SMS and opted to stay with it because of how many conversations I had that were auto-E2E, where before they'd just been text messages. I still prefer signal for the people I know use it though. In short you can still use the signal (protocol at least) on messages, so I can understand why signal would do this.
Completely and utterly wrong.

I just don't see Pinker and Dennett as remotely connected. They don't work in the same field, they don't have much to say about the things the other is interested, and they were not even really on the same page w.r.t. "new atheism".
Sounds like more messaging app proliferation will lead to services like Texts.com / Matrix get even more popular.
Great for security on Android.

> The most important reason for us to remove SMS support from Android is that plaintext SMS messages are inherently insecure. They leak sensitive metadata and place your data in the hands of telecommunications companies. With privacy and security at the heart of what we do, letting a deeply insecure messaging protocol have a place in the Signal interface is inconsistent with our values and with what people expect when they open Signal.

They do have a point though. SMS is insecure, unencrypted and leaks highly sensitive metadata anyway and it needed to go from Signal. You already have the system SMS app for this to use.
I don’t know what you’re looking at, but time-to-start is a huge factor for me. If I’m using a program as a text editor (as opposed to an IDE), I want to be able to open a file, edit it, and then close it. When I heard JetBrains was working on a lightweight text editor, I was hoping for something I could use in this way, but Fleet takes 5 seconds to launch and auto-closes after closing all files. So I’m a little disappointed.
This doesn't "seem" like anyone's position, neither stated explicitly nor implied. You've invented this.
One aspect that other commenters haven't addressed is that, if you do publicly disclose, it's likely (or at least possible) that the company would close the hole and remove the functionality that you're currently using, which you might not want.

Of course, if you keep the approach private and use it for yourself, there's no guarantee that someone won't find it in the future and either exploit it or report it themselves. Do you feel comfortable having cameras in your house that could (in theory) be accessed silently by an unknown 3rd party?
> the only thing proved was that it cost Coca Cola less to produce and ship plastic bottles.

Which too is the most important consideration to the consumer. Coke could be served in a Yeti bottle at $50 a pop, but who wants to pay for that? Nobody. Coke is merely delivering what the consumer wants: Coke, served as cheaply and most conveniently as possible.

> If Coca Cola switched to glass-only again, they wouldn't lose very many customers

Ultimately not, but they also wouldn't make the customer happy in doing so. Given that business exists only to serve customers, why would you go out of your way to make your customers unhappy to risk rocking the boat? Even a few lost customers is lost revenue, and long term negative sentiment is never good. Individual unhappiness is unavoidable, of course, but leaving the masses unhappy over something arbitrary like this even if you won't lose their business is pointless. That is not how business works.

> the masses just want their Coke.

...served as cheaply and most conveniently as possible, which is where plastic wins. For better or worse, the masses have made their decision. They don't want to pay for glass and they most certainly will not put in extra effort to legislate that they must pay for glass just to get a Coke. It is flabbergasting that the original comment in this thread even thought for a minute that they would.
I'm also Canadian and recently cancelled prime. It is weird how amazon prime video offers Canadian programming to Americans, but want me to buy an additional subscription to watch a Canadian show in Canada??

I'm with you on this one, between the price hikes, geo-restrictions, etc streaming is rapidly declining.
Read some of Ken White's older writings, he's been complaining that there's no materiality requirement to 18 USC 1001 for years and that it's been used to manufacture new charges via questioning.

There's also the matter that FBI policy is NOT to record interviews, so there's only an FD-302 saying you lied and nobody can see what you actually said, only what the FBI heard.
I had high hopes that JetBrains would relent on their decision to avoid implementing a Language Server Protocol server. There is a 3rd party implementation out there, but it needs a lot of help. I realize this cuts into their core business... but it'd sure make using Vim to write Kotlin a more pleasant experience.
Yes it is. Editing title to reflect that.
> Some user(s) have some kind of task that they want to achieve. They could get together and communicate well with some kind of developer who can help them achieve or complete that task; all of which is likely doable without this middle layer of whatever this is.

Whilst this is definitely true the question is what would the end result be like. All you're doing is having the developer engage in design which isn't a bad thing if they have the temperament and skillset to do it. Which not all developer's actually do. As someone leading a very practically oriented design team that develop all their designs it's painfully obvious that very experienced developers are not inherently good product designers even if they are very good at designing the code they write. In a large part I think the process of design is mostly universal but the nitty gritty parts of it are actually what matter.

There’s definitely a lot of fluff written by consultants with things to sell you though. But that’s not really different to other disciplines. In particular “design thinking” is the “agile coach” for designers.
Planiverse is one of my all-time favorite books. Some tasty morsels:

The Planiverse: Computer Contact with a Two-Dimensional World - Engineering Designs in Planiverse - https://cs.stanford.edu/people/eroberts/courses/soco/project...

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> Dewdney wrote The Planiverse as..an allegory for his search for a reality deeper than that of scientific enquiry, and his subsequent conversion to Sufiism.

We're the ones living in flatland, a planiverse of limited 3D perspective, who yearn for higher dimensions of experience, a glimpse of the beyond. Unfortunately it's not without risk, as this way madness lies - either as a trap of illusion, or at least as a step toward fundamental truth (if any).
Personally like TextraSMS. Has a free ad-supported version, but I paid to remove ads when it was on sale several years ago (maybe $1).

4.4 stars. I believe it's $3 or $5 to remove ads now.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.textra
That's the really funny thing about Meta's angle. VR is pretty exciting for games, there's a lot of potential there. A metaverse of games is actually an incredibly cool concept, with lots of possible ways to conceptualize that.

But they're not at all interested in that! They're betting big on some dubious niche productivity / social uses for VR. Even if you enjoy VR meetings, how is Meta going to make billions from that?
Most workers receiving laptops are getting low-tier Dells loaded with so much corporate crapware that they barely work at all. Including lots of developers—just not the ones at fancy tech companies or startups.
A family only driving 800 miles a month is very low. The average driver is over 12k miles per year and 2 car families are extremely common.

Also, a relatively low percentage of charging is vis fast charging. Even a normal wall outlet can provide enough power do drive 15,000+ miles a year assuming normal habits, and level 2 home chargers are common.
The vast majority of women would rather have a successful man as a mate than the alternative.
I think it would require one eye above the other to have depth perception in his 2d world.

Eyes can’t even be side-by-side as that axis doesn’t exist.

Having said that, the human brain is capable of reconstructing a 3d perception with only one eye through learnt understand and interpreting the picture change over time as you move. I image it’s the same for Mario, but in 2d.
You could presumably just not update its software.
Signal could SMS anyone in your regular contacts app; the fallback option in tfa is what doesn't force people. Now, it will.
This. Now you have to remember who is in Signal and who isn't. All because apparently the double-check mark for messages between Signal users and the unlocked icon for SMS messages is too hard to comprehend. SMH.
One thing I'd add is to be firm on the number of days you wait. As someone else said, that industry is scum, and I wouldn't be surprised for them to drag their feet on the fix. That's on them.
Who even use sms these days?
I mean if thats the case, we could give $10M to each employee, and close the company.
Danchenko transcripts are out today. Check the court docs, don't be lazy.
love how fast it is
SMS and security are simply incompatible. And either you fall into one of two groups 1. You know sms is insecure and this is a insecure method of communication 2. You think sms sent via signal is secure because it’s a “secure messenger”. It’s clear that HN users will fall into group 1, but the vast majority of people would fall into group 2. So for me this is an overall security win.
Apple has finally lost touch, it was bound to happen eventually. Ads will seriously hurt their reputation as a premium product. The ads will metastasize and spread from product to product, tainting everything they touch.

This will make a good case study on why a company shouldn't get too greedy about 10 years from now.
VR was not invented in 2021. Hell, I remember trying it out in the 90s.
One more reason: signal still allows for easier discovery of other users, because it forces phone number sharing
> This whole thing screams "What problem does this solve?"

I know! Let's put it on the Blockchain!

/me ducks
You can't even connect three houses to three utilities.
You might be able to do "passkey" with your password manager https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/31/23329373/dashlane-passkey... (I work for this specific one, but I'm sure others have similar things in the work)
For those looking for a workaround, you can get a VPN router in my case, a GL.iNet Mango[0] router.

The great thing: even if the VPN connection drops, it doesn't leak your real/naked IP, and also /all/ traffic on an iOS device has to pass through the VPN. No special exceptions for Apple traffic.

The only caveat is you have to carry this when traveling, which means if you're traveling light, carrying this around could be burdensome. If you are at home most of the time though, such a router is invaluable.

[0] https://www.amazon.co.uk/GL-iNet-GL-MT300N-V2-Converter-Pre-...
It's morally dubious to pick and choose what laws you follow. It doesn't matter if you think they are monopolies, that's not your judgment to make
I dunno, all my friends use at least a handful of messaging apps (iMessage, FB messenger, Discord, Telegram, SMS). Sure people grumble about a new messaging app but the younger generation seems to not have an issue adopting new things.
I'm not sure if this question is off-topic and if so I'm sorry, but I was really curious so I couldn't help but ask. I observe that articles about Franz Kafka end up in HN front page relatively frequently. Personally, I'm a huge fan of Kafka, I read all his novels (and some of his short stories), he's one of my favorite author, so I have no problem with this. But I can't help but wonder whether there is some kind of correlation between being an HN reader and liking Kafka's works, or whether people just see the word "Kafka" and somehow think it's related to Apache Kafka [1] and upvote. Curious about what others think about this.

When it comes to the OP article:

> Vladimir Nabokov was having none of it: in his teaching copy of the novella, he drew a sketch of a common beetle.

I'm curious why Nabokov thought this would be accurate. The work itself intentionally doesn't mention what kind of "vermin" Gregor Samsa is..

[1] https://kafka.apache.org/
NSA wants to know your location.
Except for that whole voting thing. The "government", in a functioning democracy, is us.
> Whatsapp and Signal are walled gardens.

Until next year?

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220701IP...
For those looking for a workaround, you can get a VPN router in my case, a GL.iNet Mango[0] router.

The great thing: even if the VPN connection drops, it doesn't leak your real/naked IP, and also /all/ traffic on an iOS device has to pass through the VPN. No special exceptions for Apple traffic!

The only caveat is you have to carry this when traveling, which means if you're traveling light, carrying this around could be burdensome. If you are at home most of the time though, such a router is invaluable...

[0] https://www.amazon.co.uk/GL-iNet-GL-MT300N-V2-Converter-Pre-...
This is exactly what I'm currently working towards at home. Buying a few more hard drives and a new case for my current desktop to turn it into a local media server and cancelling all streaming services.

Someone tells me about a show, I add it to a list and then find it later. Throw it up on Jellyfin and I can watch it anywhere using Tailscale (based on Wireguard).

One of the instances that pushed me was "buying" a movie on NFB (the National Film Board of Canada). I could only watch the movie in their player in a browser. But, I had paid 12~20$ for the movie. Instead, I found a Firefox plugin to download the video file and I used Jellyfin to watch it. Being Canadian, lots of media is region-locked.
This is a real weird take. Auto tuned songs have been wildly successful in the past, and continues to be. When it's used subtly, it's nearly undetectable and the average listener would never notice. When it's used aggressively it's a stylistic device, that makes a voice into something totally different. So it's not really even a corrective tool.
People listen to and love autotuned music every day.
Furthermore- auto tuned is not even really ubiquitous. Plenty of artists either keep their vocals unturned or only use manual pitch correction.
I think he's talking about the domestic operations. I would agree that the CIA and their sister organizations who operate internationally fit the description as well. Can't torture someone, well, take them to a friendly place where your buddy can torture them. Need to plant some FUD on a person? "an anonymous source in the intelligence community said that X did Y in Z." Unelected, Unaccountable and unchecked in every way.
This seems to be a "bug or feature" situation where the answer depends on the user profile. The ability for messages to leave the Signal app in plaintext SMS is a "feature" for users whose top needs include a single-app UX, and a "bug" for users whose top needs include an app that is foolproof E2EE (so users don't have to consciously pay attention to which conversations are Signal-native vs SMS). Maybe SMS support could be an opt-in feature, to accommodate both groups?

From my perspective (and I am NOT speaking for anybody else) this is an improvement. I already have multiple messaging apps installed, and when I click send on a Signal message I expect it to go end-to-end encrypted or not go at all. But I am not the only user profile.
Why did you specifically select the non-population adjusted list?

Top 10 Countries with the Highest Rate of Police Killings (per 10 million residents — U.S. ranks 33rd):

- Venezuela — 1829.9 (2018)
- El Salvador — 1703.8 (2017)
- Syria — 819 (2019)
- Philippines — 556.5 (2016-21 avg)
- Nicaragua — 522.7 (2018)
- Jamaica — 472.7 (2018)
- Trinidad and Tobago — 339.7 (2014)
- Brazil — 276.2 (2019)
- Bahamas — 275.7 (2018)
- Saint Vincent and the Grenadines — 181.8 (2018)
So post ww2 for the US? We've still one of the best counties to live in.

Edit. Are you claiming social programs are created to flex your country? Do you have proof of this?
I should have added /s. The funny thing is that all the other companies do exactly what he did, but because he is an upstart somehow he ended up getting all the blame.
Ha, that's more or less what I was hoping the link would be.
related but not related, how does a security camera transmit data via TCP/IP without a mobile network connection? does it run off a local wifi network to send and receive data? is there an interface to translate data from a mobile network connection back to TCP/IP allowing you to access via the IP addr?
How long would it take to build?
Alternative .. way of doing `$(selector).on` which was already modular per <head> or dynamic-import in today, to achieve on-demand js.

They say the selling point is actually React style programming which is a regression IMO since it's throwing out wide range of tools available in many programming languages. Only to be able to write one language, and the language is also not great.
Would you happen to have an invite for zed.dev ?
I typically have 10-15 VSCode windows open and have been looking for an performant but modern IDE
Could be wrong, and not about to get into a back and forth about the politics involved, but I thought that Deputy Assistant Director Strzok was removed from the Mueller investigation and eventually canned from the FBI, and FBI attorney Lisa Page was let go because of the content of the messages between them regarding Trump and Flynn that surfaced during the course of some hearings.
If memory serves, another FBI lawyer plead guilty to altering a document sent to the secret FISA court so a false justification would exist for someone in the new administration to be surveilled. I think the lawyer got a suspended sentence instead of prison.

Not focused either way on Trump, just thought that there actually was something to the GPs post.

Edit: Wasn't it Zuckerberg himself that said the FBI reached out to him about limiting the visibility of certain news?