skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
This is missing the forest for the trees. Of course we'd be more emotionally involved if it was someone we knew, that's not hypocritical. Most people aren't against fixing societal problems, either. As it stands, homelessness is definitely something that affects a ton of people so it definitely is our problem as long as we are city dwellers.

The problem here is that misapplied empathy can lead to terrible decisions. Having Google change their 2FA system for this group would be one such decision. It's similar to the 'think of the kids + terrorism' attacks on encryption. It's socially difficult to argue against these ideas because you are then labeled as a terrible and non-empathetic person, but the solutions themselves make one other thing worse without really being helpful other than for garnering retweets and likes.

In this case, we actually aren't being ambitious enough. Why are we having a system where we give out phones every 12 weeks to each homeless person? We'd probably save money for the program by developing some sort of dedicated device designed to be harder to steal or lose. Maybe a high-autonomy low-powered KaiOS smartphone that can be attached as a strap? It's not like the current devices are working.

Why is it such a hassle to keep the same number after a theft? We could investigate there too. Improving this would be better than decreasing the effectiveness of gmail's measures.

Heck, if we want to focus on Gmail, why not focus on why it's the default choice for the homeless to begin with, as opposed to removing features.

We could try to solve the problem structurally but we prefer the caseworker approach, because it's more easily packaged 'empathy' than actually fixing the homelessness issue. It's like people who travel to developing countries to 'help', when the locals need investments and training facilities, not extra warm bodies. Actually giving homes to the homeless would probably be cheaper than whatever we are doing now, even taking into account the mental illness and drug-abuse problems that factor into this.
So the choice is for them to permanently lose access to their email?

Homeless people aren't stupid and strong password don't have to be incredibly hard to remember. I'd rather get my accounts hacked because of password reuse than lose access to my email, forever.

There is literally nothing more important than your email. Even stuff like your bank account has secondary means of recovery, whereas if you lose access to your email you're pretty much fucked.
I've heard of some system for reviewing identification like drivers licenses in extreme cases, but homeless people are largely not going to have access to this either.
that is a phenomenal question that deserves to be answered by the highly paid engineers at Google

they're smart, I'm sure they can find a way, even if it contains such horrible, detestable ideas like "more support staff" and "more training for support staff"
Maybe eye tracking is the fallback plan for when everyone figures out NFTs are the strongest known combination of expensive and valueless.
> Did Web 2.0 make us all forget how open IRC networks were run?

I haven't forgotten about the Freenode hostile takeover.
This right here. He's right you know. Everyone knows that Mastodon can't handle this amount of users and after 6 years, it's enough to see that by itself it has failed, (unless you count Truth Social as a great example of a Mastodon usage that has more users than Mastodon itself in less than a year)

It is not early days anymore and no non-technical user is interested in hosting their own servers for chatting with another person. They don't care about decentralization as even if they tried they will recentralize to the main Mastodon instance.
Guess-and-check is not the same as brute force (nor exhaustive search). No one is sitting there with an empty sudoku grid, filling the whole thing in with guessed numbers, checking to see if the solution is valid, then erasing everything and starting over. Literally no one does that, not even software sudoku solvers (it takes way too long).

Guess-and-check is literally just another name for backtracking algorithms. These do not work (for humans) without an adequate suite of rules that can be use to prune the search space.
People like HOAs. The HOAs can vote to disband, but people don't care enough to do so. Many people feel they protect property value, and they are probably right.
I would point to discussions on stock market message boards which are (almost entirely) crap even if the firms being discussed aren’t.
I regret not publicly proclaiming my love for people and their talents. I've always held back on expressing how much I appreciate others and I regret every time I do so. There is no friendship like a friendship where two people earnestly love and respect each other intellectually and creatively.
If I told you that you had a bunch of forms to fill out, and after doing all the work you'd get no money (and it would all go to your hated ex-wife or something), you might not bother doing it.
> to help a small minority

In this case the people asking for 2FA are the "small minority", and the rest of us have to suffer through 2FA-authentication hell because of them.
the bridges operate on the same general principle as proof of stake (mutual distrust of nodes through a protocol that involves staking coins)

The difference of course, is that if there's a flaw in proof of stake generally it means one person might control transaction flow and collect some transaction fees; if there's a flaw in a bridge then someone prints money and destroys bridge ecosystem
If anyone wants to read more about this, there's a book called "the bomber mafia" that covers it in detail.
100%.

There are so many things that you can read or theorize about for years, in depth -- that end up still being very different once you actually do them. Just gotta try stuff.
Not only have I not said that Google doesn't offer 2FA - yes they do.

However, Google tries _very hard_ to prevent people from e.g. creating a gmail account without a phone number. Try it if you don't believe me.
The title "Gmail 2FA causes" is misleading. Every phone-based MFA will lock out users once phone is lost, and no proper back up was taking place.
Enterprise application integration has become an exceptionally significant concern in this hyper-competitive world. The comprehensive approaches and ideologies around this idea prove that enterprise application integration is extremely important. Click on the link to read more.
Gmail offers all of these (except for the second email address): paper backup codes, hardware authenticators, non-Google/gmail authenticator apps. The problem is that homeless people can/do routinely lose the “thing you have” part of 2fa.
A reference manual with nearly 2000 headings wasn't what I was expecting.
Doesn’t Authy persist Google Authenticator codes through devices?
What if that homeless person was your substance-abusing sibling? A friend from school with mental health issues?

I think we also have to realize that not everyone who is homeless has problems that can explain it away.

It's easy to look at someone who is homeless and tell yourself, "Oh, he's a dope addict. He did this to himself." It's only very rarely true, and you're only making excuses for not helping another human being.

Just last year there were newspaper articles about how a shocking number of perfectly normal public school teachers in California live out of their cars, just because they cannot afford a place to live on what they're paid.

Most people, especially in the SV bubble, would be shocked to learn how many of the baristas, maids, security guards, convenience store clerks, and other people they encounter every single day are homeless, living in their cars, or sleeping on other people's couches through no fault of their own.
Your own tiny OO language: C++? Smalltalk? What About Bob? (1991)
Source: https://github.com/dbetz/bob
False equivalence, it's a _social network_, and you can, indeed, migrate your social network.
Couple of nights ago I just sat and wrote out a small addition to a personal project.

Must have been less than 150 lines of C, but it was written in one go, compiled without warnings, and ran as expected.

Not even a forgotten comma, or an off-by-one.

I just sat there for five minutes enjoying the feeling of raw rarity.
The unnerving thing about this post is just how I could very realistically find myself in similar shoes. I do many things and bet on my ability to learn as I go. Sometimes it does take some extra hours. Time is finite.

Why bravery to say "I don't know; I could probably find out but I cannot."
The modern popular epistemology is a flaming garbage trainwreck.

We speak with certainty about things we never saw. We put our faith in the opinions of people we never met.

Now get back to work.
I came across nocodb when I was looking for an alternative to Airtable, which is laughably underpowered (e.g. no way to query tables with any kind of expressiveness) despite having an amazing UI. I ultimately didn’t want to self-host so I moved on, but may look at giving it a shot again as nothing has really fit the bill.
I just go to Walmart often.

And the wonderful solitude and quiet of my old house in a dying town contrasts sharply with my college years living in apartments.
Consider that the decades of work has probably been done with the exact same blind spots we're discussing now.
As a daily IRC user I can say this: IRC never was reliable. Constant attacks, splits, nick squatting or other crap ware pain in the ass. That’s why it never was adopted as a mainstream communication platform, and at its peak it had maybe 400k+ users. Now most of that are bots and stale sessions.
"Unhoused people"

The newspeak is strong with this one. There was never anything wrong with the word homeless.

Have progressives gone too far?
> You actually have no idea what it's like being around me.

That's great. I'm grateful we live in a country where people that are compelled to always put themselves first and not have to consider other people can remove themselves from society and choose to live an isolated life away from society. I'm even more grateful for the people that recognize this about themselves and make the move.

Living socially involves sacrifices and considering those around you. They do the same and we live harmoniously together. There's some people that can't or won't do this and if they try and live socially they end up frustrated as they are rejected by their community. In some cases it results in violence and in others just miserable people that can't seem to get along with anyone and they have a constant chip on their shoulder. Removing themselves from society and going to the country is the best route here.
There’s an empty parking lot near my house that is pitch black at night. One morning early, I took a photo of it, on a lark - with a new Canon at high ISO and slow shutter.

It was unreal, like someone had switched on the sun for a second. It’s grainy from the high ISO, but you can see full details in full colour and with the naked eye it’s as dark as a pool of black ink.
We're crippling along depending on family, libraries, charities, and other NGO support services.

The DMV works with people like this all the time; perhaps something could be done there where you have a government issued email address that you can't lose or be locked out of (worst case you take your ID to the DMV and the nice clerk helps you reset your password/sign in).
Do they really ask for a phone number, or would a Yubikey work as well?
For our product, 2FA is pretty important as a security feature (domain registrar). That said, if you don't want to use it, that's on you as the user. We help out in a different way for those users - we make it impossible to disable account sign in email notifications if you don't use 2FA and those email notifications include a "nuke all active sessions and lock my account" button that can (and has) saved users if their account is compromised due to things like leaks of credentials that they've reused on multiple sites.

2FA is a major hassle for support when users get locked out because they smash their phone or change phone numbers or somehow lose access to the 2FA method. But, the benefits of 2FA largely outweigh those downsides for the majority of users. Offering the choice though, is something we think is important.
The article establishes the national relevancy directly:

> His principal opponents are the housing associations such as condominiums and townhouse communities that are home to an estimated 60 million Americans, or about 20 percent of the population. About half of those organizations have ‘no hanging’ rules, Lee said, and enforce them with fines.

Millions of Americans live under covenants that prevent them from doing their laundry outside, lest their neighbors see. That should strike you as at least a little ridiculous. It also goes beyond the normal “just live somewhere else” mantra: you can’t relocate 60 million Americans.
That I didn't try to intervene when my brother was spiraling down to suicide. The warning signs were there, but I ignored them.
Oddly, I suspect if Google provided no free accounts at all--if you had to give a credit card and pay $5 to sign up--nobody would be complaining about this.

Which leads me back to the point made elsewhere in this thread: we have too high an expectation for what private companies can or should do, because they have taken the place in our minds if government.

And our expectations for what government can or should do are too limited, because we've convinced ourselves government is ineffective and unaccountable.
I'm not sure how this is an improvement compared to ICFs which look like hollow Lego blocks you put together & then fill with concrete.

For anyone interested in building materials, ICF & SIP seem to be the most interesting methods to me.
Indeed. Large parts of the west went through this process less than 20 years ago in the run up to the invasion of Iraq. And something like half a million died. It’s not like this is just a theoretical exercise.
I just read that Xunlei is the most popular BitTorrent client in China.

Does it not upload to none Xunlei clients or does it leech Bittorent entirely? I can’t imagine one that is a pure leech could exist without harming BitTorrent
> HN will be the last dark dominion of Left-Hemisphere-Dominance to be dragged, demanding citations and invoking logical fallacies all the way, into the present.

Thanks for giving me a good chuckle this morning! God, this place is great.
Yeah I used to go out a lot, even alone. Realized I was just spending money, beating the hell of my liver and occasionally talking to a crazy person.
> we need ideas like to 2FA to gain traction as widely as possible

No, 2FA needs to die in a fire. Easily circumvented in most social attacks that actually matter, false sense of security, massive timewaster/usability-hell/pain in the butt, acts as a novel social/corporate/accessibility barrier to technology for a large number of previously unaffected groups, and poses a threat to software freedoms.

There are many ways to strengthen security and this has got to be the shittiest one.
What would be the ramifications? IBM now has a forked version of ODF and Ceph with enterprise support? Ceph and ODF get abandoned?
Not really. The Japanese thing is an investment scam. The Scottish think is somewhat transparent that your little plot of land is mostly symbolic. And literally noone buys the souvenir land as an investment. Its bought for the glossy certificates to gift that uncle that claim to be three-seventh Scottish.
Deliberate practice is a craft, not art. I understand 10000 hours in a simpler manner. We need to do our homework, get shi*t done. In the long term, we could get the positive result
bitport.io cloud torrenting and done (after downloading at high speeds from their site), for me at least.
I think you vastly overestimate the fungibility of engineering resources in large corporations.

Also, which one do you think the involved stakeholders at Google would have an easier time getting signed-off: Decreasing reliance on stable phone numbers as an authentication factor, or firing a couple of people and donating their salaries to an organization helping the homeless?

Sometimes, depending on the probability of success, the pragmatic choice is also the ethical one.
Weren’t you complaining about mastodon having “no users” in the last big discussion about it here? Do you have some kind of personal issue with the protocol?

There are plenty of people using it. It has not “failed”.
c++ zealots are no less worse that languageX zealots mate.
Maybe they just now have realized how much money from illegal drugs flows to sanctioned countries and are moving towards full legalisation to stop it.
If you own one and you like using it, definitely yes
It looks like at least some of the individuals claiming production issues are pulling the latest version of Axios from a CDN. It doesn't seem like they actively pushed a release to production without adequate testing. Not that I disagree with your overall point, but it's at least a little bit less damning.
Yes, but what else?

A hardware token can be lost as well, and "in app" push notification (or whatever the app does) you stil need the telephone or at least the SIM/same telephone number, don't you?
I'm currently looking into using CRDTs for a side project, and would love to pick your brain:

CRDTs don't solve the semantic issue of a conflict, but nothing ever will, because the semantics are defined by business requirements, right?

Isn't the idea behind CRDTs to develop a set of "primitives" upon which one can build conflict free data structures?

And isn't all the hype about CRDTs a result of the fact that providing those primitives in a serverless way (ie, without requiring a central authority) was a hitherto unsolved problem?
This and the code modernization is the biggest announcement.

That means future improvements are going to be 2x easier and we’ll see the product mature much quicker in the future.
No, I'm certainly arguing with you. :)

Maybe, on top of that, I'm also arguing with the author. But I assume he implicitly talked about Google (which doesn't provide that option).
And yet a large number of channels and a large number of communities migrated seamlessly to Libera and survived.
Reminds me of an anti-CAPTCHA argument, there are many people in this world who have never seen a fire-hydrant in their life.
So, the US didn’t conquer Iraq?
It seems you define regret as: if I went back in time I would do <Y> instead of <X> and of course this is a pointless exercise if you choose to define it this way.

Most people I think define regret more abstractly: back in time, <X> was a _mistake_, it shouldn't have happened, _I_ shouldn't have done it that way and consequences came from it either for myself or those I love.

It seems from your response that you're ok with admitting your mistakes which - by the above definition - sounds like you feel regret.
A scratch ticket with a positive expected value
Sounds like you're after a Zeiss ZX1.

https://www.zeiss.com/consumer-products/int/photography/zx1....
Normally people mean if they could change a decision they made about the past. I guess in that sense I should have been more critical when starting a business a few years back about who to bring along. I had my doubts about a certain partner, which turned out to be right. Maybe the biggest "hiring mistake" I've done.
Google only allows non-U2F 2FA methods (like TOTP) to be enabled AFTER enabling a hardware U2F device. And signing up without a working mobile number is impossible. Anyone who says that's not true hasn't actually tried in the last several years.
How big of a phenomenon is this?
My teens was my first jobs; pizza places and pamphlets. My twenties was travelling, hospitality and finance. My thirties was university, science and programming jobs. My forties has been a masters and now teaching, I wonder what my fifties will bring. Each change has let me take skills and experience from one sphere and apply it differently.

10k hours is not a guaranteed unless it’s directed practice. 2k and some flexible thinking can get you a long way towards interesting and new experiences.
What’s painful is that I’ve ported my phone number out to a VoIP provider similar to Google Voice for exactly this purpose, but something like 25% of providers now block using SMS for 2FA unless it’s tied to an approved mobile phone operator.

Turns out 2FA is also being used as a low-effort form of a captcha in addition to being a tool for data harvesting and “device identification”. I wouldn’t be surprised if legitimate users simply never receive a 2FA SMS because someone used a prepaid phone or something.
We breached Russian satellite network, say pro-Ukraine partisans
„Maybe the solution should be to have some basic free state-paid email provider for those people.”
I want to know the answer to this also! Total photography noob contemplating getting a new iphone here, is it possible to use a different camera app to disable a bunch of the computational magic?
pg once accidentally made a comment thread circular while fiddling with the live HN backend, and crashed the site.

Here's the postmortem:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5239673 ("Why HN was down", 2013)

- "But then I decided to just fix it for him by doing some surgery in the repl. Unfortunately I used the wrong id for one of the comments and created a loop in the comment tree; I caused an item to be its own grandchild. After which, when anyone tried to view the thread, the server would try to generate an infinitely long page. The story in question was on the frontpage, so this happened a lot."
You'd think this. I've been Looking for some land to build some interesting projects (larger than usual personal-use solar farm with mechanical outbuildings, small wind turbines, various experimentation with hoop houses, etc.) lends me to believe the NIMBYs have made it to most of the country.

You have to truly be in the absolutely middle of nowhere with an amazingly huge amount of land to actually be able to "do what you want" in a reasonable manner without someone telling you no.

And I'm talking about stuff that couldn't be seen from off your property line. So many county regulations and such these days - some places 100+ miles from the nearest international airport had county building restrictions nearly as bad as the suburban development I lived in.

It's been a very eye opening and incredibly sad process for me. Land of the free indeed. It seems there is increasingly nowhere left to run away from petty authoritarians.
This is my experience as well.

Out of simple anxiety, I transferred data from a few drives (spanning 2007 to 2015). If there were any issues, neither my file manager nor the SMART status reported any.
There are a lot of email providers out right now that fit one of the three possibilities OP set out.

But most people aren't aware of any of this, choose the one they know of or see first, and get angry when 'it doesn't work right'.

Like OP said, all cover is temporary.
I don't understand why governments don't provide everyone with an email address.

E.g. John.doe1234@people.gov
"There's no speed limit"
https://sive.rs/kimo
Mine is that I said the whole idea was stupid in 2010. When any desktop computer could crank them out at a decent clip, but they were worthless.

I console myself in the knowledge that I'd never have kept the coins long enough for the dream to play out.
Without rules, there will be one neighbor who will start an auto repair shop on his front lawn. Another will stock pile trash. The next will have their RV blocking your view of the street etc...