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So, what are they paid to... do, then?

Thrash around trying to understand the business. Some will be more successful than others, depending on how smart they are. Some will gain a superficial understanding and claim to have mastered the domain, but let's just say there's a different kind of "OA5" person who often ends up in the job.

Occasionally, if you're lucky, you'll find ons that has a vague clue about how to write requirements. Or design UI. Or that cares.

(speaking as a Product Manager / UX Designer / Developer, not necessarily in that order)
>I don't think it takes millions and federal loans to make an EV. ... Enthusiasts have been converting small ICE cars ("internal combustion engine" cars) into electrics for many years.

Musk for example converted Lotus. I completely share your opinion that it should be easy and cheap. If i had a large enough garage space, i see how i myself could produce the car under 50K using mostly COTS. On the other side, looking at the real examples - like the Tesla case - it is extremely expensive and complicated.
Cool, thanks.

I was mainly wondering if there are notable startups that are based there and/or if there is a strong community of people working the startup life.
Is there a good text-based description? Not really interested in sitting through another cutesy startup video.
Why wouldn't Microsoft match an offer that Google is NOT making? Without conpetition, they could offer 10% of that amount and Mozilla would have a hard time saying no on a financial basis.
OK, yes, you can break any grammatical rule if you invent new rules to replace it; you can also modify a C compiler to accept some Lispy constructs. My point is, style is fashion, but grammar is something deeper.
I bet IBM is full of mature programmers.
I suggest that you consider how you'd feel if you were sitting in an SF coffee shop and this guy walked up and tried to sell candies to each customer there-in including you...

Sure, that's just "entrepreneurial spirit" - violating public or private space laws shouldn't matter at all...
On the flip side I'm an OS X (and Linux) user and I tend to think fonts on Windows look spindly and have erratic kerning.

It really is a matter of taste and what you are used to. Also because antialiasing is basically a trick of visual perception, it wouldn't surprise me if there really are differences in people's vision systems such that some people are more likely to see heavily antialiased text as blurry, similarly to the way some people are more likely to object to low framerate video or get a headache when viewing stereoscopic 3D.
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He is engaged in an illegal activity. By your "logic", selling cocaine is a brilliant startup.
To clarify, SPDY started at Google (in Chromium) http://www.chromium.org/spdy
Market cap $225B. I'm sure it is.
Cool idea. I usually move folders and files to the /tmp/ folder instead of deleting them. The next time I boot up, they are gone.
Last I checked, the statement I read looked like Mozilla had a pile of cash in the bank. Enough to go on for many years if they're not dumb with it.

Would be interesting to see if they've put out an updated statement since then.
This is amazing:

HOLD ON, is the Subway not public grounds? Do we not pay taxes for public transportation, pay again to use it, and we still can't sell shit there?!

Yes, there is a public good that you aren't allowed in engage in a profit making enterprise to take advantage of. "Public ground" is not the same as open, predatorial grounds.

We pay taxes on the streets and "we" still can't setup toll booth with which to shake down motorists...

Selling candies illegally isn't as obvious obnoxious as other shakedown scams but the point is it not a "victimless crime" or a situation where someone is violating some private rent-seeking effort (IE, ignoring the "intellectual property" of a patent troll). It's violating boundaries that are there because most subway riders want them there.
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> somehow this piece of UX is forgotten on command line tools

Because command line tools were first, and are used by people who do need to remove files, to clear disk space.

If you're never deleting anything, how do you clear disk space?
According to this study (http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/27/sat-scores-and-...), there's a clear correlation between students from high income backgrounds having higher scores versus students from lower income backgrounds having lower scores as well.
Google Apps are quite effective at losing on their own demerits in a business environment, even without privacy concerns, though that is a big one. The main win over say MS suite is price and hosting, if you have a very small operation that doesn't have a large scale document base or mail base.
Still waiting for biodiesels.
I disagree to reduce programmers to geeks that only have fun when there is a ton of new technology and a fancy feature that only they like.
Most people I've worked with have fun when the project goes well, customers are happy and the like.

A really post-mature programmer understands the values behind so that he does not need rules any more.
By the time I type "Matt", the "I'm feeling lucky" button disappears and, thanks to instant search, is replaced by a screenful (on a netbook screen) of ads for mattress discounters.
All startup videos should be like this one - Duolingo
Firefox wins on only two feature, but important ones: privacy and advertising addons. It is the only reason I tolerate the rest of Firefox's slowness and memory hogging. 95+% of the market doesn't care about privacy and half don't care about ads though.
i definitely agree with patrick.

every school clearly remarks similar policies and reviewing the statistics is pretty self-evident. i don't see why everyone is making an issue to explain away the current standards when they're pretty clear.

i'm asian and it doesn't really bother me, since i've experienced similar situations in the "real world" during my career.

i've dealt with the principals and superintendents in nyc and they've made it abundantly clear that they want asians in their schools because "they raise the stats and increase funding." race clearly has an influence on the admission process at multiple levels of education.

the glass ceiling is pretty obvious when i had a "literal" 100% turnover rate within 12 months of every asian in my department at prestigious firm. this includes myself, i left within 12 months.

you simply make it so that your accomplishments are so undeniable that race no longer becomes an issue. however, i do personally feel that race shouldn't be a question that is asked at all or at least no one should answer them. i'd even go so far as to eliminate or redact applicant names to the admissions board as a question of independence.

go one year where no one is aware of an individual's race or name and i think that would be an interesting data set!

i hope that we'll move towards a true meritocracy instead of constantly worrying about race and other irrelevant facts.
HN community tend to have a knee jerk response against enterprise software. They forget that Steve Blank of "4 Steps to Epiphany" made his fortune in enterprise software.
How does it compare to seattle or boston?
Your paragraph 4 contradicts paragraph 2.
The exact same analysis applies to developers.
Email isn't cc'd based on interest level (at least not in my in my inbox), it's done to summon the political power of various authorities.
Archive use of third party services like AIM or something is technically challenging for a variety of reasons, particularly as the industry continues its slow but steady march towards SSL usage. Products exist which can penetrate this encryption and log the network traffic directly (when I say "challenging" I mean just that, not impossible), translating it into logged IM entries (and yes, they do it by obtaining the keys from the services in question), but they are awfully pricy compared to just declaring that IM shall not be used, and there are enough protocols out there with enough usage that there's some frequent pain around losing logging with protocol updates. You can also host an IM server internally in which case logging is trivial, but many people aren't even aware that this is an option, or don't want to deal with IT to set it up and maintain it, or don't want to purchase the off-the-shelf products which can do it but are also more expensive (virtually by definition) than just declaring it shall not be done.

I used to work in this field. I do not recommend trying to break into it, there does not appear to be a market here.
What are you waiting for? You can run almost any modern diesel on biodiesel, and in most west coast cities (at least), B20, B80 and even B100 are available.
Would you consider perhaps a feature set or details as to what it does that doesn't require me to sit through a video?
Are there prototypes to be sold off? I thought these were neat little vehicles. I still want one.
> Emacs color theming is an epic failure.

That's why they threw out color-theme.el and reimplemented it from scratch in Emacs 24.
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I'm curious as to how much of the planet (I know, I know it's been demoted) the craft will be able to "see". That is given the distance from the sun will it be draped in darkness, barely visible?

I had a comic as a kid that had these really freaky cold aliens that lived on Pluto in very dim light conditions. That's my only reference point.
I presume it means that, having seen things from the inside out, his team knows winning and losing things to spend time on.

Nearly every startup ends up with a list a mile long of potential features, ideas, refinements, communities, partners and revenue sources. Being able to pick out the right few to work on (and what to say no to) is maybe the most important skill a startup CEO can have.

A founder who has been around the same space for a long time can use past experience and intuition where a newly-minted CEO knows very little and is actually best off when they recognize that.
Great idea, it's too bad that they weren't ready to scale before releasing such great promotional material. They're having to limit participation and you can only give them your @ in hopes of getting an invite eventually.
I personally do encounter a lot of this kind of thing in SF, except usually just in latin shops/restaurants. And instead of candy, it's some nick-nacks (usually along the lines of childrens clothing, rosary beads, virgin mary pendants, etc), being sold by an elderly person.

I never really buy anything from them (though my mom sometimes does), and even though I do prefer my meals to be uninterrupted, I would never say they annoy me, or that they shouldn't be doing it. Life can be hard, and you can tell these people are genuinely trying to make the best of it, so I truly respect them for it. If anything, accusing them of 'violating' anything when they're working so hard, doing something so simple and innocent, would just make me feel like less of a human being.
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My startup is kind of detatched from either of those hubs, we're rooted in Palm Desert. (Palm Springs) Thriving, though!
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I didn't mean the first thing you mentioned, more like the second. Mostly I meant that you can already buy enterprise social networking suites complete with instant messaging. My post must have been worded badly as it seems to have confused people. My comments about Facebook and IM were in response to a post that suggested there was some technical difficulty in archiving and searching IM and social networking style posts. Obviously, there is not, because Facebook already does it, and similar capability exists within iChat itself! It would not be difficult for a vendor to provide an integrated social network with IM to enterprises, and indeed, there are vendors which do just this.

I disagree that there is no market for this. Jive's S1 says they have 15M enterprise users spread out over 600+ companies.
I hope that some of the tech will be sold, opened or some how fall into other peoples hands. They did a lot of neat things with their prototypes and I think there is a chance that it can still help.
We've recently tried apptrajectory.com but they are iterating in a different direction from what we want (e.g. Stories are finished then delivered then accepted)

sprint.ly looks like it is a lot closer to our workflow.
I went to a high school in NYC with an Asian plurality, and it was pretty well known among the students and the counselors that being Asian was not something that would help you get into college.

In any case, there's a suit 'Fisher v University of Texas at Austin' which experts think will be heading to the Supreme Court sometime in 2012, and may have a good chance of bringing education a little closer to the meritocracy it should be: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/16/sunday-review/college-dive...
This. MIT doesn't not flunk you based on who you know or what you look like.
I have to object to this blog. While some points I agree with, this is more formulaic drivel where some self absorbed person tries to tell everyone else what makes a [great|rockstar|mature|senior] [programmer|hire|architect|genius] and how he/she is one because why else would he/she be writing this blog? And, by the way, even experienced people are dummies because they do/don't do [testing|agile|documenting|coding|time management|getting things done] that I/we do/did at ACME corp.

Don't believe me? Google 'great programmer' and peruse the 75 million results and ask yourself why it's such a popular topic.
Words of wisdom.

I'll take ultra simple, "boring" code over clever code every time.

As a not-so-famous musician once said:
"It's a fine line between clever and stupid."
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My friend and I wrote an article about this here: http://tech.mit.edu/V124/N45/faberpius4.45c.html

TL;DR follows:

Affirmative action comes into play only at the final stages when making the extremely difficult decisions that come along with deciding between two qualified applicants. This is the time when the admission staff is comparing the “fit to the Institute” of Bobby, whose dad paid for him to learn 10 different languages and backpack through Europe for a semester, to that of Jerry, who started the world’s first solar-powered electric violin club at his local church and snorkels on weekends. Notice how none of these activities are essential to determining whether or not these students can graduate from MIT, but only to guessing at what each student’s potential contribution is to the positive atmosphere at MIT. Yet, these types of things are used in colleges and companies across the country to decide between two qualified applicants.
>Gowalla will bring great engineers and with them a whole bunch of other innovative people to f-book ... "greatest fears" as voiced by their COO last week in NY at the BI Ignition conference (lack of innovation, lack of people

i worked at a big [ultimately failed] SV company and for many its final years the "innovation" was the top word of the CEO and other executives. When company executives start talking innovation it pretty much means that company got enough entrenched products, market position and internal balance of power that any significant internal innovation is killed immediately [by the same executives] to avoid any risk to the above mentioned products, existing revenue streams and internal power, etc... Once internal innovation is squashed and has vanished as a result, the executives start to whine that there is a "lack of innovation, lack of people"
I'd like an information page not forcing you to watch a video. I don't know what this product is about.
Only if the only way to build something is by being an expert. It's possibly to "adequately" or "poorly" build something without being an expert.
You take that attitude to almost any other job, and you'll quickly will be told to leave.

The joy of being a professional, well paid developer is in creating the product, not the code. The joy of programming for programming's sake is something you do in your own time. Sure, any smart company will reserve work time for that, but not in the middle of building a product.

Same goes for the "healthy" opposition of a producer. If you need to be managed like that, please fuck off back to the playground, and don't dare call yourself "mature".

Most of this article reflects a "we are such special an unique snowflakes, we don't need to take responsibility for the consequences of our actions" that has become all too common in our business.

I'm all for spending truckloads of money on getting programmers the best tools and work-environment with all the nice toys, and giving them all the freedom in the world to do their job in any way they are most comfortable with. But the one thing I expect from them in return is to take responsibility for delivering results. Not to fuck around and be creative and "artistic" at the expense of those who are signing their paychecks.
As a Rochester native and a son and grandson of Kodak employees, this article hits pretty close to home. Unfortunately I'm too young to remember the Kodak my grandfather worked for. My grandmother bought 10 shares of Kodak stock for me when I was born as an investment for my college account. With all of that in mind my optimism may be naive.

In my opinion, if their patents are not enough to save the company, they at least have kept around many of the right employees to move forward in a digital internet enabled society. They are starting to make a platform for turning digital images into physical prints. Every Target and many CVS stores have Kodak printing kiosks which allow you to print straight from facebook and film. They just released a facebook app for making prints and photobooks. They may not have film and they may not have the its popular digital cameras, but they have the best platform for making prints hands down.
Thanks delwin! Great points
Not in reference specifically to product roles, I think one of the problems right now in SV and probably in other tech hubs is the migration of finance, law, "other fancy profession" people to the tech industry as the bubble has inflated. You have lots of people who genuinely have no qualifications specific to the tech business and there only drive is to just follow the path to whatever is shiny and looks like the most possible path to extravagant wealth according to Forbes. Usually they are easy to identify because they transform themselves to fit the mold of whatever is hot.. ex. in 2004 they were real estate agents / brokers, in 2008 they were social media consultants, and now they want to be SV product / tech entrepreneurs because it the latest things in the paper. The problem with these folks is they unfortunately add little to no value because they spend all their time running around trying to figure out what is the cool thing rather than trying to understand how they can use their own skills to best help others.

Honestly Im not too big of a fan of the bubble times. I'll be glad when things calm down and the finance, law etc types move onto the next shiny thing and were left with the people who truly enjoy the industry.
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This is exactly why I still believe that what we do is not engineering. How long would a civil engineer be employed if he refused to use proven techniques and complained that he was not having enough fun on the latest bridge project? This nonsense might be fine for game development, but there is a great deal of software that affects people's lives. It is time for our profession to grow up.
how come foursquare and twitter were not there in the list?
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You might try the mobile nightly. The UI got rewritten as native and should be much faster. Still a little rough last I checked but surprisingly smooth.

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Platforms/Android#Download_N...
i don't know about deadly but a small example of this concept is when people are caught speeding. people have a higher chance of getting out of speeding tickets by crying and/or admitting fault instead of challenging the police and denying any wrong doing.
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To me, this seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Sure, a startup has to do something in the market to allow moving forward to the IPO stage, but if one of the major underwriters for IPOs says "hey guys, I think you're likely to IPO in the future" to each of these startups, it's going to plant "hey, maybe it makes sense for us to IPO -- GS says we should!" in their heads.

That's not to say this is necessarily a bad thing, but it definitely doesn't say much about their ability to predict future IPOs.
NOt that it is a /good/ reason, but the cost involved I implementing the system is often the reason listed as
We've landed an implementation of a draft of the SPDY spec, and that will be available in Firefox Nightly builds [1] tomorrow (or so). In order to test it out, you must change change the network.http.spdy.enabled preference to true in about:config; the default configuration does not have SPDY enabled.

There is no concrete plan for enabling support for any particular draft SPDY spec in any particular version of Firefox yet. There's no way it will be enabled by default in Firefox 11. Our implementation needs a lot more testing, especially since there are already very important SPDY-enabled sites live on the Internet. Even if we spit out a perfect implementation of the latest draft spec on the first attempt, it might be the case that these existing sites depend on behavior undefined by the spec and/or bugs in Chrome. These kinds of issues still need to be found and addressed.

There is also still work that needs to be done on the spec itself. I suspect there will be many rounds of divergence and convergence in SPDY implementations as more people experiment with implementing it, and as the protocol improves.

[1] http://nightly.mozilla.org/
[2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Core&...
Most toxic town? How about Centralia Pennsylvania where the coal seam under the town has been constantly burning since 1962 sending smoke and ash into the air?

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Here's the thing:

Thinking through design criteria, trying to perfect them, asking all these small questions can be a joyful, creative act in itself. I think it's great when good developers can engage in heated debate as to which is the most solid design, backing away from the desire to be buzzword compliant and come up with a solid design.

In the end, I'd rather write code people looked at and said "That's elegant" than code that people looked at and said "that's clever."

This being said, if you don't realize that all of this is a creative endeavor then things will be formalized to the point of killing that creative spark.

I do think coding standards exist for a reason, but also that they should be no longer than necessary. Indeed, one issue with writing long coding standards is that usually they are a form of premature optimization ;-)
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