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"There was a lot of prior art when we began the Crunchpad project, and having a tablet that was touch controlled rather than with a stylus wasn't really a revolutionary idea since there were a number of component manufacturers at the time who were scaling up their touch controllers to larger dimensions (9", 11", 12" etc.) in preparation for this market."

Having a tablet that was touch controlled rather than with a stylus wasn't really a revolutionary idea since Star Trek: The Next Generation was aired in 1987, with it's touch-controlled screens [0] and PADDs [1] [2].

BTW. I'm surprised by Star Trek not being mentioned at all since the dawn of consumer touch-screen technology. I expected people to be doing lots of LCARS rip-offs on MS Surface, tablets and phones, and there's almost nothing.

[0] - http://techspecs.startrek.acalltoduty.com/images/galaxy/ed-m...

[1] - http://www.teleread.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/padd.gif

[2] - http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/PADD
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The Sony tablet was pointed out in this article as a poor design that was over engineered. I pointed out the Nook Tablet as one exception. The rest (beyond the clamshell designs) all look similar to the iPad. Basically you're saying companies should have to design their tablets with two screens because a one screen black box is too similar to the iPad?
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The iPad is basically a big iPhone, so pointing out that there were people making a big iPhone between when the iPhone was announced and when the iPad was announced just shows that they were copying the iPhone instead of the iPad.

Simple, minimalist, elegant designs look obvious in retrospect.

The fact that Samsung, HTC, and others are aping Apple's designs in the iPhone and iPad is clear. Denying it only makes you look ridiculous. The question is, are they aping it too much or are they bringing enough new to the table for it to be considered an original design? That's something that almost has to be addressed on a device by device basis.
There are a number of people I know who have never touched Java and are being exposed to the eco-system through languages like Clojure and Scala and this kind of overview may be useful to them.

However, I agree that it's not worthy to be on the front-page of HN.
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I'd really appreciate a supported Windows version. We are a MS shop and nobody want's to administrate a linux box here.

It would be cool to have a VMWare Virtual Appliance Ready to go. Shouldn't be too hard since Redis is sponsored by VMware ;)
Considering there were devices that looked like the iPad before the iPad was released, I don't think that's the case here.
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And yet that would have made CrunchPad Prototype B an iPad infringer before the iPad came out. In later versions, they seem to have abandoned the mono-surface design, but they clearly considered having it in their initial phase.

I think the larger point here is that inventions and innovation don't happen in a vacuum, and most of the stuff around us is anything but novel. Yet our legal systems act otherwise.
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The notion that a company can patent rounded corners and sue others claiming innovation makes me sick.

Maybe they do actually believe what they do is innovation rather than slight revision (and product/market fit)... I mean, that's what people keep telling them they do ... eventually it must stick.
Yeah, those other companies like Walmart, UPS, Boeing... you know, the ones based outside of Silicon Valley, deeply entrenched in the real world.
If code quality is your concern then supporting multiple Unix variants already does a good job at revealing bugs. Supporting Windows and Unix is a whole different beast. They're so radically different that you're essentially writing two different versions of the code. And since all abstractions are leaky, fixing a bug that occurs on Windows may not fix a bug on Unix; it may even introduce a bug in Unix.
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The Crunchpad was merely an extension of the ideas from the iPhone/iPod Touch, I think a lot of people could see there was a market for a big iPod Touch. Mostly the competition didn't have an OS ready and Apple was late to the market due to focusing on the iPhone.
> Having a tablet that was touch controlled rather than with a stylus wasn't really a revolutionary idea since Star Trek: The Next Generation was aired in 1987, with it's touch-controlled screens [0] and PADDs [1] [2].

Star Trek: The Next Generation also has FTL drive and matter transporters that don't kill you. The idea may have come from TNG, but I think it's more that using a finger was the next logical step after the stylus than actual "inspiration" on the part of TNG.

> I expected people to be doing lots of LCARS rip-offs on MS Surface, tablets and phones, and there's almost nothing.

LCARS really isn't that practical of a user interface (narrow font, odd color scheme, lack of consistent layouts...) Michael Okuda designed it more to look futuristic and "cool" than to really be something usable.
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The only reason I feel this is out of place here is because the very first thing the author says is "if you google[...]" which I would hope most hackers do before they start asking questions of others.
I hear it's something that they're working on.

You can sign up at https://stripe.com/global to be notified when they do come to your country. I bet that also gives them a priority list.
It would be worthwhile investigating how the SQLite project approach this issue. I see a lot of parallels between the two projects.
What, like SQLite?
"To nab" means "to sieze", which implies Google bought out Square Enix.

Better title might be, "Google taps Square Enix".
An important point is that even if the plugin is completely robust, it probably contains a huge amount of code/options that you personally will never need or use, so while finding something for proof of concept is easy, finding production practical plugins are hard.

An example for me was that we needed something that would float buttons in certain positions depending on user input, so the obvious solution was to get a plugin that did tooltips and change the graphics to hide everything but a button. Worked like a charm and not a single error on any browser or mobile device. The problem was it was nearly 75k all in. This is no criticism of the author, he did an amazing job of being as broadly adopted as possible by giving every option everyone had asked for and more. Obviously though I only need 1 set of those options out of the hundreds he'd had squeezed into his code.

Before we went live I decided to find time over a weekend to rewrite and got it just as stable and robust for under 6k. Clearly as a one off this is could be considered a minor issue but with times that by 5 plugins and you start having an unpleasant experience for people.
You're comparing rounded corners and touch-interface (which has existed for decades) to "FTL drive and matter transporters that don't kill you"?
> Star Trek: The Next Generation also has FTL drive and matter transporters that don't kill you. The idea may have come from TNG, but I think it's more that using a finger was the next logical step after the stylus than actual "inspiration" on the part of TNG.

Those are different kind of ideas. FTL drive and matter transporter might not be treated as real idea, but whatever procedures, safety precautions and logistic considerations were conceived around them may prove to be valuable ideas if we ever get to FTL/transporter technology or something similar. On the other hand, touchscreens in TNG were an useful, realistic concept.

> LCARS really isn't that practical of a user interface (narrow font, odd color scheme, lack of consistent layouts...) Michael Okuda designed it more to look futuristic and "cool" than to really be something usable.

Sure it's not really usable (compared to our current interfaces), but I personally assumed that ST is so ingrained in minds of most hackers that such projects would start appearing immediately, as an 'obvious thing to do'.
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I'm not sold on this number as a metric of much of anything.
i wonder where in the world the "occupational hazard" number is highest, and what the number looks like
the crunchpad went on to be released as the joojoo, which did have the screen flush. IIRC there was only a single prototype we built out of the later 4-5 where that wasn't the case.

see the pic of the joojoo here:

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/tag/joojoo/

edit: just included that in the post

and you can play the 'but its just a..' game all the way back to vacuum tubes with anything. that's what innovation is.

what I am arguing against is the Apple expert claim about the design being a complete leap and unique and not something that would be reproduced without knowing the ipad. I can argue against that because we did just that (as did others).
Is there any other product that is better than this, and in the same price range?
The more modern gcc handling is with "#pragma once":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pragma_once

His comments on include files are not the way the world has gone. In all my years writing C, I have never seen a C/C++ header which does not include the other headers it needs in order to compile cleanly.

He states: "Simple rule: include files should never include include files."

If you can find me one C project out there which has headers with zero #includes and forces each compilation unit including the header to include all the prerequisites needed for that header I would be genuinely interested. Even all OS header files include their pre-requisites and it is considered a bug if they do not do so. A more modern 21st century rule would be:

"Simple rule: include file order does not matter. Use include guards (or #pragma once) and always include only the prerequisites needed to cleanly compile and nothing more."
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Innovation innovates. Revision revises.

Rounded-corners / while you can call it simple, minimalist, elegant design ... is not innovation, it is revision.
I just linked the two win32 ports to the project download page: http://redis.io/download this will hopefully expose the two efforts more and may result if there is a real community around it into a redis-win32 project to mature.
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I have difficulty interpreting the difference between running a native process, and spinning up a VM (local or remote), as a trivial difference.

If I have a desktop app which talks to Redis (for whatever reason), what this means is that I can't realistically produce a version which works offline. Depending on the market, that could be huge.
May get downvoted for pedantry, but the spelling error in the first paragraph on that page drives home the OP's point. There are so many ways to undermine yourself as an indie dev.
re: "PDF displaced Postscript."

Not exactly. A PDF is generated from PostScript, as noted in the article:

"A PDF file is a static representation of the result of executing the PostScript file on a single occasion."

A PDF is a more compact version of a PostScript file - we could call it compiled PostScript, to use a term many on this site are familiar with. Just as a compiler has many output options, distilling PostScript can result in many different file sizes and levels of quality. (Check out the Distiller output settings.)
There is already a huge amount of libraries that abstract the hard part for you. 95% of our C++ code isn't platform specific and we support FreeBSD, Linux and Windows.
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These are not Java-specific data structures. If you already know these concepts -- and I don't see how you could write code without inevitably bumping into them -- the Java implementations should be intuitive and trivial to learn. Not to mention clearly documented.
It would be interesting to know why that comment merited a downvote.
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Did you feel the least bit ridiculous writing that? I know I felt a little ridiculous just reading that. Perhaps I just have a really hard time understanding how any kind of rounded corners or edges could possibly qualify for a patent unless it had some sort of unique function. Form should never be patentable. Function maybe sometimes.
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That's awful. What kind of response did you get when trying to prove them wrong? Did you talk only to your ISP or someone from the government?
Madrid crash was due to a improper disconection of the flight-ground sensor by maintenance( following unclear documentation)That led to a take off without flaps ( the configuration alarm didn't sound as it should when the crew forgot to extend them). It didn't take off it only jumped out of the runway and then crashed.
It was not an usability matter just lots of small factors aligning, neither one on itself could have caused the accident.
I'd be surprised if a significant number of countries - or any really - exist in which human rights are enforceable. It is certainly not the case for the US.
> It is worth noting that Hashtable was not originally part of the Collections framework.

An other class in that case being Vector, and that's the reason why they have a lot of duplication in their methods: they have the original ones, and they have the new ones coming from the Collections framework interface (this is also the source of having both Iterator[0] and Enumerable[1] in the JDK: Iterator is the Collections framework iterator interface, Enumerable is the pre-Collections one)

An other big difference, which you hinted at, is that Hashtable and Vector are both synchronized collections (method calls will take the collection lock and behave "atomically"), whereas Collections framework classes are not, instead the Collections framework has compositional wrappers[2] which provide this behavior independently of the underlying collection implementation.

finally, a little trick for more fluent Collections initialization: you can abuse anonymous subclasses and instance initializers to get something much less imperative:

List<String> myList = new ArrayList<String>() {{
add("Second Thing");
add("Second Thing");
add("First Thing");
}};

[0] http://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/util/Iterator....

[1] http://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/util/Enumerati...

[2] http://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/util/Collectio...
"Dediu refers to the giant gap between the cash Apple hauls in and what it pays its retail staff as Apple Store workers' "productivity." We'd guess there's probably another word for it, somewhere outside of the economist's lexicon."

Does the author of this article realise that different products have different markups? That Apple actually has to make these computers also? That a fair way to compare employee renumeration is directly, rather than through some random metric?

As an employee, I would rather earn $9 at store A selling $1000 worth of products than $5 at store B selling $6 dollars worth of products!

Do professional sports people feel taken advantage of? Cause you know, they get quite a small percentage of the total take of TV advertising that leverages off of their work.

/Rant Over. Wow, I wish more people studied Econ 101
Spot on ebbv! Apple designed the iPad long before the iPhone and chose to release the phone first because of technical limitations. While the CrunchPad designs were revealed long before the iPad can they say that the iPhone had no influence on their designs?
AFAIK,the point of a design patent is to protect stylistic (non-functional) elements of a design. The question being asked is whether the common elements between these products are non-functional or actual have important functional reasons for existing. Why are all car tires round, with rubber on the outside, and with cool tread patterns on the outside?
Of course there was a time before ecommerce apps. That would probably explain why I was talking about the very first perl cgis. While there's a lower barrier to entry for people to exploit security holes, there's also far more targets. Automated tools to go around exploiting the latest holes in "insert shitty PHP app here" aren't an issue for web developers who are writing their own apps. The security issues that impact web developers are the same as they have always been for all kinds of developers, input filtering, escaping output, etc. Web developers have always needed to understand basic security issues, it is just that 99% of web developers historically have been completely incompetent. This does not appear to have changed recently.
its extremely hard to patent designs and extremely hard to defend such patents..

Want the list of lost patent cases on designs in previous years by Apple?
I'm not sure if a lack of fruits and veggies leads to cancer. It leads to malnutrition. But, fruits and veggies have many benefits to prevent cancer: fiber helps your poo move through your bowels better; antioxidents fight free radicals; vitamins in natural form do lots of cool things (metabolism, brain function, etc.) that help your body's cells replicate normally.

I supposed you could argue for multivitamins. My approach is to not bet against 6000+ years of human biochemistry.
I'm surprised nobody made this case before. I remember I started believing in the idea of tablets way before we even heard rumors about an Apple tablet. I started believing in this idea when I first saw the initial Crunchpad mock-ups.
Another vote for DataTables here, as it's made the current project I'm working on possible.

One question -- why Hungarian notation for all the API bits?
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Just get a merchant account and program it yourself - it's super easy to do. I don't even understand a need for 3rd party recurring billing companies - programming something to charge someone $X amount every X days is pretty dang easy...
Given that it's specific to men, I'd say fiber and prostate cancer. There's some evidence, specifically with respect to cancer, (I don't know if it's strong or not), that it helps clean out toxins and it helps regulate hormones.
I think he's saying this:

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#include some_header
#endif
I think Knuth originally envisioned a writer working with a book designer/TeX developer to build a new set of macros for each project, and once the book was written the macros would be left alone. Therefore it would be very important to avoid breaking old macros, meaning TeX's behaviour needed to be nailed down. Today we would more likely take a PDF-like approach, specifying the file formats and using multiple programs to generate and process them.
You're inferring engineering decisions based on product outcomes. You have no idea how the various extensions you describe were implemented, and with what regard to future extension.

For example many people claimed early on that iOS 'didn't support multitasking', which was correct at a feature level, but not at an engineering level.
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That's revenue, not earnings. BIG difference (earnings << revenue due to operating costs, etc).
I see what you did here with the polling options (once I realized that andys627 was also the original poster). That's a pretty clever way to emulate a poll on HN without polling options.

But be aware that no one but you can see the number of points each option has. Assuming they get a few votes at least, can you report back the results to the rest of us?

BTW, re. the idea, I think it could make a good website and but a bad business. Is this meant to be a project or a business?

* - Specifically, here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3331859
and here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3331857
That's a great optimization to apply after you've shipped an app to paying customers.
What about the other 60%?

I'd argue that for, a lot of people living in developed countries, things like exposure to poor air quality should be considered a lifestyle choice.
Please do it! This is how (I'm showing my age now) it worked in DOS all those years ago.
when I worked at motorola, there are sysadmins that were fired _immediately_ after they did 'rm -rf /'.

on another company, those sysadmin could not recover from a mis-operation either, the whole company lost 4 month of development time. those people, amazingly, still keep their jobs.

Adam should leave this project the second day, this kind of error is simply unforgivable.
Killed because it was very copyrighted...

Time to move on guys. Any newer ideas?
Apple is grasping for straws here. The argument that out of the space of all possible designs for a tablet, they own the subset defined by the conjunction of "rounded corners AND flat front surface AND uncluttered design AND thin profile etc." is absurdly overbroad. It's like a car manufacturer arguing they own all car designs that have "good gas mileage AND automatic windows AND bluetooth radio AND leather interior" etc. In the weakest argument the features Apple claims as their own are simply universally desirable features that would be obvious to any designer of such a device. In a stronger argument many of features claimed are necessary for the function of any tablet. Not really comfortable with these IP shenanigans harming the market.
What do you mean by the "the glibness of this piece is annoying"? Thanks for the comment by the way!
Probably because it's just snark without providing any evidence that SQLite has become buggy and bloated. You added nothing to the discussion.
Legacy basically... When I wrote the first version of DataTables the company I was working fir then had strict coding standards that required the use of Hungarian notation, so I was "trained" in at at the time, and I've never wanted to break compatibility with old versions. v2 might see a clean break though (whenever I get the time to do that :-) ).
You need whole distribution of process time, not just mean for simulation.
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