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I'm a self taught programmer. I'm currently on my lunch break at a job that pays me just under 6 figures a year. I work and live in Seattle and I'm very glad that UW rejected me, twice.

While the teachers interviewed in the story are amazing, I'm glad UW rejected me because I don't think I'd be were I am right now with their education. I've helped numerous high school friends who are now taking Computer Science classes learn what they need to learn for their assignments and the problems they have are just so non relevant that it scares me.

This isn't a case of someone complaining "Why do I have to learn Calculus, I'll never use it!" (because I actually do use Calculus every day), but rather complaining about "why have I had to explain for loops to four different sets of hard working and studious friends, the day before their assignments are due?"

I'm fairly certain that if any of my friends currently attempting a Computer Science degree from UW want to work at the level I do professionally, they'll have to study a lot on their free-time and learn things on their own rather than follow along with the classes they're taking.

Note: This doesn't include people who have contacted me asking for her saying they're only taking Computer Science just because they hear it pays well.
I'm glad you stated that argument, because it's kind of what I suspect a lot of people think so it gives me something to attack ;).

My specific concerns are:

a. I think politicians can ignore something that "a majority of the Internet-using population" knows. As long as the "mainstream" media (i.e. television) chooses not to pick it up, the politicians won't be forced to answer for themselves.

b. If there is opposition to SOPA, either the public media spin will be controlled by politicians announcing that the draft law has been modified "in response to" the concerns/opposition/protests, or "SOPA" will be defeated but the powers that want it passed will regroup and send it through again next year under a different name.

c. If there's room to argue that Wikipedia is exaggerating the threat, then that is what will be publicly argued when this story breaks. This might not turn out so positively for Wikipedia (or negatively for SOPA): after all, which side has more experience and resources to put towards controlling the public debate? And that's before we consider the possibility that someone will seriously suggest that it would be better for Wikipedia to be censored.

Don't read (b), in particular, as defeatism: I understand that this is a war and that we have to fight the current battle as well as future ones. I claim only that in the cost–benefit analysis, the utility of defeating this particular incarnation should not be approximated by the utility of being free from SOPA-like law for ever.
"You don't know better." If an entrepreneur is that helpless, paying-to-pitch is the least of their problems.
> If you're not good at being put on the spot -- or you forget an important point you wanted to make at precisely that moment, you loose.

I think the point you are trying to make actually reinforces the need for face to face meetings. Every interaction with another person is an investment - the 'lack of depth' that you mention is often what builds up mutual understanding of each other, how they think, their reasoning, their biases - and overall, it builds up trust.

When you have this trust, then when you are put on the spot and you flub your discussion points, the listener gives you a lot more slack to clarify yourself, or they they may give you the benefit of the doubt because they trust you. It's this investment in people that pays off when you are under-performing for whatever reason - far from losing, you actually win because of the face-to-face meetings.
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Point 2 is very important. The IRS is getting tougher and tougher on companies for hiring consultants who look like employees. Even companies like Microsoft have stumbled with this issue.
This proposal isn't coming from the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation, it's coming from the community. For example, the Italian Wikipedia came down recently in protest of something political. That was implemented by the community of volunteers who maintain Wikipedia, rather than the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation.
whether or not they opt out, its detected on my vz device using the carrier iq detector app.
I know, right! My TextMate completely stopped working when it was just 3 years old. Don't make 'em like they used to.
I don't see much use for this outside the send-a-password use-case. For that it seems like one of those things that might be convenient if I need to send a password/username to a buddy but for anything at all official I don't think you will get users. Most places don't want people going out to 3rd party sites for sensitive data.
Wikipedia will survive. The silly laws of any one country – even its sponsoring Foundation's home country – would just drive Wikipedia activity into new jurisdictions.
It used to be that Drew's had great Yelp reviews.

An interesting trend I've noticed with Groupon is that, at least in Chicago, it's a great way to kill your Yelp rating. The sudden surge in business tends to be much more than the business is really prepared to handle, and everything naturally suffers when that happens. Particularly in Groupon's hometown, where their high market penetration means they act as the engine behind a veritable tsunami of deal chasers that roves around the city, randomly swamping unsuspecting mom-and-pops and neighborhood holes-in-the-wall.

I used to be a regular customer at Drew's. But I have a habit of ceasing to go to restaurants for a month or two when I hear they did a Groupon. (Not out of protest or anything. It's just that flooding a place with Grouponers tends to make it a less pleasant place to eat.) I'm definitely not the only person I knew with that habit.
501(c)3 organizations can engage in lobbying as long as it does not constitute a substancial portion of the organization's activity. 501(c)3 organizations have an absolute ban on lobbying for candidates for public office, however.

This would not threaten Wikipedia's tax-exempt status.
That's not quite accurate. 501(c)(3) nonprofits CAN engage in political activity. They are just limited in the amount they can do. A group like the Sierra Club whose primary activity is lobbying and politics and who incidentally does other things wouldn't fit under 501(c)(3).
Aren't they already in the movie streaming business via FiOS?
Well said. One would expect that more people here would understand and accept that not everyone has the same needs or wants for socialization at work or "a few drinks after", what with the "socially awkward geek" stereotype and all. I for one get more motivated seeing my coworkers push high quality commits on github than, say, trying to evade "so, what did you do last weekend" small talk. Looking forward to start working 100% remotely at some point, with all my contacts being "just nicknames on irc".
I'm not saying open it up to just anything, but if this is for ChromeOS, they could certainly grant access to manually-installed extensions (not extension gallery extensions) and/or to OS components.
They probably do recognize it, but it's easy to get flustered and forget things when you're dealing with someone who's trained in high-pressure sales tactics.
while i don't disagree with holman's statements, i do think he misses the point. for me, trunk's article was about how the statement 'women should work at startups' is patronizing because it implies that they are less capable of making that decision for themselves than men.

advocating for a more equal distribution of startup awareness and technical training across demographics is a separate issue and i think holman and some of the commenters are confusing trunk's message as a denial of that. this is why her analogy of saying men should stay home and raise children is so apt. if they wanted to, they would. they don't need anyone's help or special attention to make sure they know all the opportunities for them in the stay-at-home-dad scene so that we have an equal number of men and women at home raising kids. maybe to some degree it's ok that different parts of society are skewed towards one gender or another since men and women are different.

we don't need to go around forcing our utopian vision of equality on systems as long as everyone has the opportunity to make the choice for themselves. whether or not women have that opportunity is a separate question. i think a lot of women do and it can be a slight to suggest otherwise based solely on their gender.
They don't even need to take down the sites. Just some brief description of the problem at the top of every page, and the names of the local politicians who support it.

If Google does it, this bill will die in a few hours and this shit will never come up again.
Agreed. Also if you are hiring employee number 1 as a startup rather than just a small business, you are looking for a business partner, essentially. If you are applying for a position like this, it's important to ask all relevant accounting questions. If you are hiring someone, it's important to provide accurate information on the cash inflow and outflow on the business.

Also, my father always taught me, "the employees get paid first." That means if it is just an employee you are hiring, the question isn't whether you can afford to pay them, it's whether there is money left over when you get done to pay yourself.
I'm not sure that's enough.
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I won't hesitate to add "I hope not" because of the obvious implications of Verizon absorbing an otherwise useful service.

It seems disingenuous to portrays Netflix as though it were in legitimate trouble as a business. Netflix has certainly had mishaps and a loss of subscribers; but I don't think that's inclination to suspect that they are looking to jump ship. Selling (and tying) themselves to Verizon would just leave a vacuum for another agnostic service to replace it.
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I am a fan of contracting with an eye to hire. You get a chance to get to know someone and then if the relationship works, you can hire him or her.
I'm stunned by the sexism in your response.

The lower bound for men is zero.

Maybe it is zero for men who expect their wives to do all the parenting. It's certainly not zero for everyone else.
No politician would have to, if the bill passed. The RIAA would do it for them, and Wikipedia's only resort would be to take it to court -- where it would, after spending buckets of money, lose.

Or more accurately, Wikipedia wouldn't take it to court: they'd censor themselves instead, so that they could stay on the internet. Which makes SOPA an existential threat to Wikipedia as a source of knowledge.
What an awful idea. Netflix had to make some bad deals that it now has to live with. They'd also have to deal with the dying DVD business that has nothing to do with Verizon's business model. They'd likely have to find a buyer for that and spin it off. Maybe that's what Netflix was trying to prepare for with quikster.

Netflix owns nothing. Any exclusivity is small and worth very little. There is no value there. If you're a streaming customer, there's nothing keeping you with them once someone comes out with a competing service at a lower price.

Netflix is a distributor that can easily be replaced by any of the big guys: iTunes, Amazon, Microsoft, etc. If Verizon wants to get into this game, they should partner with a big guy who can build the distribution network for them.
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But remember, 501(c)(3) status is a US-only thing. Different rules would apply in Italy.
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The WM produces one project: Wikipedia, the bulk of which is the English-language version. If that is given over entirely to lobbying a specific bill, even temporarily, they would have a very hard time arguing that that is not a "substantial portion" of their activity.
IANAL, but I do not believe discrimination laws in the US apply to businesses with 15 or fewer employees.
At first, I misread this and thought it was designed to keep employees from working from home.

Glad to see I was wrong.

ObOnTopic: I try to work from home once or twice a week. In those bursts, I can get a lot of work done that requires concentration and nobody bothering me. But the rest of the time, I make sure to be in the office, partly for the serendipitous connections ("oh hey, I've been meaning to ask you...") and partly for the easy back-and-forth with my team mates.
"Most likely the software is there".

Do you have any actual evidence for this? Or do you just enjoy throwing around wild accusations?
Of course not. Viacom et al. would point to this as a victory and Congress would go on without them.
IANAL (particularly a tax attorney), so no-one — least of all the Wikimedia Foundation — should be taking my advice on this, but it was my understanding that the rules surrounding 501(c)(3) organizations and political action had more to do with endorsing for or against candidates than taking overt positions on specific issues.

For example, from a 2007 IRS ruling on the subject: "Section 501(c)(3) organizations may take positions on public policy issues, including issues that divide candidates in an election for public office. However, section 501(c)(3) organizations must avoid any issue advocacy that functions as political campaign intervention." [1]

Further details in the referenced ruling suggest that if WM were to make reference to specific legislators and their respective positions, for or against SOPA, and thus even implying that WM wanted you to vote one way or another for those candidates, they'd have crossed the line.

Simply saying, "We don't like SOPA. Here's why it's the worst bill since the Let's All Grind Up Babies For Pet Food Act of 1887..." OTOH, seems to be kosher, per my reading on the subject.

[1] http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rr-07-41.pdf

(EDIT: clarification.)
No option for people outside US to add themselves!
No responses yet, but the same question is on Quora: http://www.quora.com/What-are-the-key-differences-between-em...
I would guess that lots of FiOS customers also subscribe to Netflix (and maybe don't understand the FiOS streaming interface). So why not give in and try to capture that?
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Absolutely not. Data carriers should not be able to supply any content over its pipes. There is already precedent restricting vertical integration -- see the United States v. Paramount Pictures (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Paramount_Pict...).

That would also seemingly invalidate most of the cable TV industry, but in that case, you're arguably paying for the TV feed (which just happens to be carried over cable), rather than the cable itself (which is what you pay for with Internet access). Same argument applies to the public switched telephone network. You're paying for voice service, not the infrastructure; that is why 'data' is a separate line item on your cellular bill.
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Except that no Americans could access it, thanks to SOPA's Great American Firewall. And I imagine Americans make up an overwhelmingly large portion of the editors, writers, and readers of English Wikipedia.
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>just not for the reasons the bean counters expected

>People like having their own desks.

The lack of assigned desks was explicitly mentioned as one of the changes designed to keep people away.
I am a big fan of looking at the whole person, but I wouldn't put it in stark black and white terms like that. The fact is that as we age, and go through life changes, we think in different ways and this means we bring different things to the table.

A 22-year-old hot-shot programmer brings to the table something very different than an experienced 45-year-old software developer who used to be a hot-shot programmer. The former can code circles around the latter, but the latter brings a perspective to the table which can save a lot of time, energy, and expense down the road.

I don't think I'd want a software team with an average age of 26, which looks down on or ignores the advice and feedback of more experienced programmers.

Our industry is developing in strange ways. I know a bunch of good programmers who are unable to find work because of their ages, and who then start their own businesses, and are successful there. Then, I suppose they get brought in to the people who might have otherwise hired them as "consultants!"
I would hope you wouldn't know this from the service itself, but do you know what use cases people are using it for based on feedback? I suspect there may be something its being used for I had not considered and might actually use.
A good office should attract people and by extension, serve as a recruiting tool.

Their modern facade of bright colors and "hip" furniture doesn't conceal the fluorescent lights, low ceilings, and berber carpeting.

Imagine the opposite - 20-foot ceilings, lots of natural sun light, and hardwood floors - and you can feel it's much more conducive for working.
What do you do about database back ups? Do you not back up those tables or do you wipe out the backups after a couple of days?
>Working remotely is a compromise further: you will get paid less, you'll get promoted less, and you will be one of the first laid off.

Employers take heed: If you can't afford to pay $150K, if you can figure out how to communicate remotely, you quite often get a deep discount on wages (or a dramatic increase in employee satisfaction) if you find someone that wants remote work that can't find said remote work.

At my last full-time job, some of the best people there worked remote and came in once a month or so. It was fairly clear that these people worked remotely because they were so valuable, and working from home was the perk they demanded as compensation.

As far as I can tell, all people are aware that working from home is a big benefit to the employee; but from what I've seen? people who work from home because they are good enough that they get the working conditions they demand don't get laid off.

I mean, from what I've seen, the employer looks at it as compensation, too; so you might be right that if two people with the same skill and the same pay worked at the same company, one working from home and the other in the office, the one working from home might get let go of first. But if the work from home person is more skilled or is getting paid less (which is usually the case) then they are not more likely to get laid off.

(As a side note, personally I think that getting laid off in the first round is almost always the best outcome for an employee. In the first round, if it is a large company, there are usually severance packages. This package gets smaller in subsequent rounds. Also, if you don't get laid off? well, they reduced the number of workers, but not the amount of work that needs to be done. It's no fun.)
I find the "Wikipedia shouldn't be politicized" argument very strage - as the WikiMedia Foundation already hires political lobbyists, which seems pretty politicized to me... Are you against wikimedia using lobbyists too? Or are they different in some way (that I fail to see)?
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Maybe not. But any of the seven billion humans could do a startup.
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That is an unnecessarily and unjustifiably limited definition of defense. The mere proposal of legislation is an attack. "WP:ADVOCACY" is not a convincing argument for that viewpoint. Furthermore, defense can certainly be preemptive, so we have multiple levels of 'wrong' here.

" Should every Wikipedia in countries that already have far worse free-speech laws be constantly blinking out in intermittent protest, once this threshold for 'stop-the-service' activism is set?"

Arguably, yes. They should always do this in response to legislation that so directly effects them. Doing it after the fact is obviously of much more limited utility.

"activism"

Again, this is a silly accusation.
Aha, yes, I had conflated that in my mind with the late 'fairness doctrine'. Thanks for the correcting pointer.

Looks like the equal-time rule specifically triggers when one candidate is given free time on TV/radio (that doesn't fall under certain news/documentary exceptions). So even on TV/radio, a 'blackout', rather than favoring any one candidate, would be OK.

I suppose there could be campaign finance rules that come into play in some cases – if time/space was considered a undeclared donation. There was some noise about this with regard to the FEC and political bloggers in past US election cycles.
SOPA is going down. I think it is obvious. I also think it is quite obvious that it was meant to go down by its creators. The open question now is what part of SOPA will be reintroduced later.

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This is a trivial tactic based on the idea of anchoring. Say, one wants to pass an unpopular piece of legislation. He would then introduce something that is 5x as bad (an anchor), let the public take it down, and then reintroduce a (what now seems a much milder) version. Sure, the public may take an issue with it too, but it won't be as unified and uproarious. The public had their win, they prevailed, and they are simply bored to fight the same fight all over again.
My point is that those that do work from home and do it successfully (at least in my experience) have a separate work area for work that is not considered "home" but considered work, this is a concious decision people make to deal with working from home and not being distracted. If someone has an office to go to but also works from home they will often not consider creating another workspace at home and that will result in their home life and work life "merging". For a startup having your home life and work life being one and the same is relatively normal (again in my experience at least) but with a "normal" job most people don't want that. They go to work, they come home, work is done. If the line between home and work is merged as much as the article proposes without people making sure to create a separate work environment at home they'll have problems.
I love anything that adds developer productivity and reduces developer pain, so I definitely love this. Here's hoping it catches on within the Python community.
Yeah, the most effective measure would just be a censored page with a call to action with a pointer to their local representatives. Calling your politicians is vastly effective, if you can get a small fraction of the country calling their reps. Just censoring the page isn't enough, you need to inspire action among the voters!
Tumblr is hardly Google or Facebook, and they were able to generate massive grassroots political response, mainly through a banner. Any kind of coordinated action by major internet sites could generate the kind of response that I doubt Congress has ever seen before.
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It's not that it's not supposed to leak like some big secret. It's that it makes you look bad when you get it into the general public's hands rather than a bunch of developers that know that it's of alpha quality and it goes around crashing all of the time, corrupting your data, etc. Things you'd expect alphas to do.