skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
You are completely and utterly wrong. That DNA was sampled by a Phoenician settler into North Africa of the Phoenician ruling class or Carthage. The vast minority of North Africans at that time had predominant Phoenician ancestry or lived in Phoenician culture.

North Africans are and always were the same people genetically. The North African emperors I am referring to specifically had Berber, not Punic or Phoenician ancestry. Which is still the dominant ancestry in North Africa today, and the Berber culture and language still lives on today.

Unfortunately it seems you are not knowledgeable of the history either of late Rome, of Carthage or of (North) Africa in general, and the authors of that website either did an incredibly poor job at it or are as well.
I just love how the pro-censorship crowd here is faking moderation and exasperated reasonableness, while the rest of us know full well how this game is played. We see it on literally all major social media platforms right now. It started (roughly) with banning Alex Jones and a few others. Why would you be opposed to banning of that screaming crazy person, right?

Fast forward just a few years, it's now impossible to use use social media to coherently discuss any major issues affecting our society if you don't mince words and don't subscribe to orthodoxy de jour. And the worst part is the smug, obnoxious gaslighting about it all that happens all the time.

"Twitter doesn't delete content for political purposes. wink wink"

Hunter Biden laptop story? Unity 2020? Suspension of people like Jordan Peterson? James Lindsey? Hundreds of other high-profile accounts. Probably tens of thousand of lower profile accounts.

"It's not censorship of it's a private company. node nod"

https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-biden-admin-held-week...

https://nypost.com/2022/08/28/fbi-put-the-hunter-biden-story...

"We're just doing commons sense stuff. Like following science."

https://reclaimthenet.org/youtube-quietly-dropped-covid-cens...

Etc, etc.

All these cliche arguments have been revealed to be entirely in bad faith, so I have absolutely no reason to trust people here who are now claiming that they want some sort of "reasonable" policy from infrastructure providers. It has been demonstrated time and time again that people who don't oppose deplatforming on principle are actually fine with it whenever it suits them.
What other reasonable conclusion exists besides the CEO of cloudfare being a coward?
You know, I hear this from time to time. And I hear criticism of Cloudflare's reaction when Project Zero told us what they'd found. I don't think they were discrediting Cloudflare and imagine the opposite scenario. Imagine P0 hadn't found Cloudbleed and it hadn't been stopped as fast as it was. As tough as Cloudbleed was, I am grateful Tavis spoke up. And a lot of people should be also.
Lucene's adaptation of Roaring uses the complement idea on a block-wise basis:

https://github.com/apache/lucene/blob/84cae4f27cfd3feb3bb42d...
> true threats and "incitement to imminent lawless action" are separate doctrines

Wasn't aware, thank you. That said, this message [1] sounds an awful lot like "the speaker mean[t] to communicate a serious expression of an intent to commit an act of unlawful violence to a particular individual" [2].

Aside: And with that tweet read, I'm out. Happy Labor Day weekend folks.

[1] https://twitter.com/keffals/status/1566153033586810885

[2] https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/538/343/case.pdf
> But ("FSD" excepted) they spend more of their attention on what really matters: treating their vehicle as a modern electronic device. But the European car companies are still stuck in the mid 20th century and make the opposite branch cut. The rest of European industry is the same.

You can probably say the same about GM or Ford, and I'd extend this to companies that sell hardware products in general. In the US too, the hardware department of many hardware companies runs the show, even though the hardware sold still runs a lot of custom software.

Tesla was shaped by a guy who got rich thanks to having founded a software company, and he brought those practices to hardware. It's the exception rather than the norm.

So the question should be, with Tesla and Rivian both being pretty young, where are the european startups? There is so much expertise in Germany for building cars, you would think that it is the best place to found a car startup. But where are they? DHL couldn't find a single German buyer for their car company.
It absolutely should. Full stop.
you are a 8 hour old account making comments that add absolutely nothing to the conversation other than snark, it would be weird to not be flagged by everyone.
>KF probably started doxxing and threatening CF employees/other customers

Source: It came to me in a dream
Pay aside, I wonder if the German automotive industry is just a particularly bad example. I've worked in Germany, Switzerland, Canada and now for an American company and I found that software companies aren't not that much different.
I've also worked for an automotive supplier in Germany and can understand where parent is coming from.
It’s an anti-fraud maze of sort - @patio11 calls it anti-fraud loops [0]

[0] - https://bam.kalzumeus.com/archive/optimal-amount-of-fraud/
> It's a modern day witch-hunt.

The problem with real witch hunts was that witches don't exist. By definition, any "witches" found and punished was an injustice.

That's not the case here. Kiwifarms users have committed acts that have drawn public attention, criticism, and consequences like today's.
I left the UK about 2 years ago, and I still get recruiters emailing me about all kinds of contract opportunities.

I get recruiters emailing me about all kinds of contract opportunities too. Many of them are probably just trying to harvest a CV. Many more want silly things like a senior Java engineer with a decade of enterprise experience for £350/day (which is a type of work I've never done and never enquired about or listed on any profile). You really can't read anything into what recruiters casually email you about or send to you on LinkedIn or list on sites like JobServe. The only thing that counts are the gigs that real developers are actually getting.

Sure, for an IR35 work you're better off with an umbrella company, but it's definitely not the case for outside IR35.

You're never better off using an umbrella. The client is. Umbrellas are just a vehicle to dump all the tax obligations that were supposed to fall on them onto you instead while pretending they're offering a much higher rate than the effective rate you're really getting paid. And with large clients they are mostly now used as a blanket policy even though they're supposed to assess each gig individually. This is a big change in the market in the last year or so because the IR35 rules changed to make the client/intermediaries responsible for determining status and liable if the determination is wrong.

I know more than one person who was independent for years but has given up and gone permanent again now because once you're getting hit with umbrella arrangements you usually get all the downsides of full employment anyway plus the extra costs that should be met by the employer and with none of the perks and protections of real employment. There are still a few umbrella gigs with rates high enough to make up for that but from the discussions I've been having it looks like the vast majority aren't now.
Your perspective leads to radical polarization between two alternate extremes--what we're seeing happening to political discourse across the entire Western world--and, eventually, war and death.
This evoked Godwin's law real quick. For a purportedly "Nazi" site, KiwiFarms sure does lack swastikas.

Moral repugnance is not synonymous with Nazism.
This. I make less in Spain than I would in France. And less good conditions. And even less money than my home country the Netherlands. Would I move to the US for effectively 2-3x the wage? No way.

Money is one of the means to reach quality of life but not the only one. As QoL goes I am much better off here. Having good social security and healthcare (which is entirely free in Spain) are part of that. Not having to worry or paying $1000+ insurance per month like in the US really makes life more relaxed.

I was contacted by a FAANG recently for a job interview but as it was in the US and not remote I declined (I work for another multinational but not a FAANG). I live alone and I like exploring the world, I've also lived in two other countries :) But the US is not one I'd pick. Probably would have when I was younger and didn't have a care in the world though.
Turns out there's no such thing as neutrality. Connecting content to the world is a choice your team approves or declines. You can complain about scalability of that decision all you want. Cloudflare is not neutral, and will never be. You're an active participant and you have to deal with your responsibility.
People hurt people. That's why there are police and a judicial system with checks and balances--not a kangaroo court of internet service providers.
Ask HN: Why not have a quiz show where contestants have internet access?
Wouldn't that be more relevant today than something like Jeopardy?
Is Tesla Autopilot Killing Motorcycle Riders?
CF no longer deserves the benefit of the doubt. See e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=32705613
>”i'd solve that by being enthusiastically anti-nazi, but if you can't muster up the strength to say nazis are bad, thats something you'll have to figure out on your own.”

Case in point, right here.
What kind of actions? I don't chase up people around the globe just because I disagree with them. I don't support in any shape or form doxxing or swatting anyone. People need to be mental to engage in this kind of nonsense.
Surely that is for my country to decide for itself - we're a democracy - you don't get a say here any more than I get a say in what the US does
I have to wonder if everyone calling this site a cess pool has actually visited it. It was, in general, more civil and better moderated than, say, Twitter or Reddit which regularly generate a circlejerk of hatred and violent rhetoric. The subject matter may be distasteful, but the website was not at all what you everyone seems to be making it out to be.
It was deleted as it is against the rules of the site? The strawman of "damage control" seems like a retrofit by Keffals.
As some others have pointed out, this is merely an old product coming back.

In the late 90's and early 2000's there were several companies that made these, with the Sony Glasstron and Olympus Eye-Trek being the two model lines coming to mind, but I believe where were others. You could do things like plug them into a cassette-based portable TV (some of the high end Sony models had S-Video out). There was even a special PlayStation branded model (that was oddly actually made by Olympus) that sold for around $400-$500 equivalent back around 2002. I remember there were these little booths (like little voting booths where it was darker) outside some store in Japan where you could try the Sony headset hooked up to a PS2. I actually found a photo of it: https://www.olympus-global.com/en/news/2000b/image/nr001012f...

They never sold very well, but there are at least a dozen (maybe more) models of "personal wearable displays" out there from 10-20 years ago. Some actually have head tracking. Most are composite or SVGA, but IIRC Olympus kept making these for quite a while. Sony actually had a product line that was before Glasstron AND one after, that never had much of a brand name, but I remember it was actually quite advanced—720p, HDMI and OLED… and that back back around 2010 or some such.
I think it’s pretty safe to assume that MTG or her people were behind her swatting attempts.
Exactly. You can go on Reddit right now and find calls for violence, extermination of various groups, etc etc etc, but you’ll never see cloudfare take action then.

Censorship always starts with the undesirables. It never ends there.
I think it’s covered in their TOS:

“We may at our sole discretion suspend or terminate your access to the Websites and/or Online Services at any time, with or without notice for any reason or no reason at all. We also reserve the right to modify or discontinue the Websites and/or Online Services at any time (including, without limitation, by limiting or discontinuing certain features of the Websites and/or Online Services) without notice to you. We will have no liability whatsoever on account of any change to the Websites and/or Online Services or any suspension or termination of your access to or use of the Websites and/or Online Services.”

Kiwifarms controls their DNS; they can change NS records as needed, so I wouldn’t say the domain is hijacked.
The costs are not really irrelevant, you'd still want to be in a place you'd like to live, right?
Ok have fun doing whatever it is you do that isn’t doxing on your forum when it’s back online (after the doxing and the threats took it offline) I guess.
It hosts archives of terrible shit people have done and allows free discussion of their activities. That's why so many people want the site taken down. It has nothing to do with them killing, doxing, stalking and swatting hundreds of innocent trans people.

For example, the person that started #dropkiwifarms is a literal soviet worshipping communist, openly flirted with minors on twitter, hosted a discord server full of minors and sexual fetish content, and had a terminally embarrassing findom porn career, and talks frequently about sending minors illegally brewed HRT without their parents knowledge. This is all factual and documented, you can look it up if you want. So you can see why they would want the site taken down.
You can probably email dang (probably @ycombin…) if you want. Mentioning his user name here might be enough too.
Err, how would that qualify as a legitimate threat?
+1, what was the thing that changed today vs a week ago?

If this is going to eventually become precedent (despite what is said this is now the new basis from which other decisions are made) other site owners and future one’s should have an idea of what exactly wasn’t dealt with. Cloudflare’s reach is extensive and becoming a critical part the internet so there’s plenty at stake here.

The lack of transparency by Google, Facebook, etc is the worst part of this whole top-level internet moderation trend.
You're welcome to just ignore the narrow and technical point, which did not include any discussion of what was allowable or not.
how do you know it wasn't just trolls trying to get KF taken down?
I don't think you can really call something a database if it doesn't have a query language, at least in contemporary practice.

And I wouldn't call "cd", "ls", "mkdir", "rm", "cat" and "echo" a query language.

Even the first navigational databases had a proper query language, although radically different from SQL.
He/they is not dead. The person who claimed that Byuu/Near committed suicide claimed he confirmed it with the Japanese police. The Japanese have to report every American citizen who died to the US, which is then included in an online database here: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-tra...
No US citizen died by unnatural causes in Japan in the entire second half of 2021, and not on the 28th of June. Byuu/Near was still alive and posting well after the 11th of May, the last time an American citizen died by suicide in Japan in 2021.
https://twitter.com/thenib/status/1027247065783574528
Interesting no one here is discussing “Jakt”, which looks very similar in style and approach. Jakt is the language attempted by the SerenityOS team, which itself dispels the notion you can’t building something of substance from scratch without outside libraries. Jakt also implements fairly lightweight reference counting, making it memory safe. I think the potential of SerenityOS/Jakt can’t be overstated and strikes me as comparable to the excitement surrounding Linux in the early ‘90s.
What exactly are you put off by?
And by doing so, they are proving the very value and necessity of free speech; they're unwittingly making their opponents' arguments for them.
The problem with cases like this one is that they really show the inadequacy of the geographic government model in the age of the internet.

If a Czech citizen, currently living in Slovakia, doxxx a British person resident in Canada on a site hosted in the Maldives and managed by a Japanese citizen, protected by a German server owned by an American security company, which government has the right to order the content to be taken down?
Every website gets threats. The Stoneman Douglas shooter wrote a YouTube comment about how he wanted to be a school shooter, just weeks before his attack, which went unmoderated. Kiwifarms immediately deleted the threatening post. Why hold small discussion forums to such a higher standard? They deleted the post in minutes; so you expect them to delete violating posts faster than YouTube?
That’s how it always goes.

Amazing that humans never learn from history.
Your anecdotes do not a trend make. It also sounds like maybe your strengths lie in a direction other than building custom PCs.
So you've verified the person in the screenshot saying they've arranged for bombs to be planted has been banned?
What's interesting about their SWATing is that the police took them in for questioning and confiscated their phone and hard-drives. Can anyone think of a single SWATing where the police showed up, noticed that there was no hostage/slaughter, and started collecting evidence / detained the victim? A victim that then raised $100K to flee the country and 'go into hiding' while Tweeting about their current location, planned future locations (never going back to the country that detained them though for some reason)..
If then someone came and did the fraud, there wouldn't be an amount of 0.
> we shouldn’t be the ones making that call, and no one else who should was stepping up in spite of being aware of the threat

If one patron starts beating another to a pulp, the bartender breaking up the fight does not signify a failure of the rule of law or law enforcement. You stepped in to help. It would be nice if you were given official air cover to do so. But I and most Americans prefer a system where the government has extra hoops to jump through to halt even dangerous speech.
I think my, personal, problem is that people point to EOR as a reason for why we shouldn't use artificial forms of CCS. These same people appear to be big supporters of tree planting (despite young forests being carbon sources instead of sinks). They also seem to be unaware of better natural sequestration methods through land management. At least these are the people I run into and so it is hard to not conflate groups like this. Armchair experts often get in the way of a lot of progress and actual discussions because now we need to define our personal sides because the signaling mechanism is more noisy.

Personally, I don't see a major issue with EOR. If they make the technology, they make the technology. Ultimately it will come down to government regulations and through mechanisms such as: carbon taxes, emission/pollution taxes, investments, and subsidies. Energy isn't a free market right now and free markets aren't going to solve this because Climate Change is a tragedy of the commons. Our current economic models do not price in ToC and we only do so through government action. So I rather see the EOR discussion as often tangential to the actual broader discussion of sequestration (natural or artificial)
I imagine you have never been the target of a KF abuse campaign.
Good list. I would add requiring snapd, which runs as root, to do anything with snap packages. You need to open up an entirely new potential attack surface just to use snaps.
Are the ACLU nazis?

https://www.aclu.org/issues/free-speech/rights-protesters/sk...
Elixir is by far the best language I've ever used, and I've been programming for 32 years. Congratulations, Elixir team.
> one can still peruse, have a pulse on it

Not without an invite to the private Discord / Google doc / telegram group / whatever.
“Anyone who isn’t performatively anti things-I-disagree with is thing-I-disagree-with”

I remember my liberal friends sneering Bush for his “you’re with us or against us” take on the war on terror/patriot act. Funny how it’s come full circle.
>you hit 50, it's leaving

Your average working programmer isn't retiring at 50, and your brain works just fine at that age. Is this some Silicon Valley cult of youth thing? At my boring old German company I'd say a third of the devs is over 50 or close to it, they're gonna work till retirement like everyone else and they write good code. Hell, you're still physically fit at that age if you take care of yourself. You may not be able to pull five all-nighters in a row, but you're not decrepit just yet lol.

Btw John Carmack is 52 already and the man seems to have the energy of an entire engineering team. I think some people really let age get to their own head.
Look at what the banana farmers have done to try to prevent fungus spread - and they failed.

I appreciate what NASA is doing, but I wonder if they have a chance in keeping us safe. They have to be vigilant every time they meddle with martian material - forever. To be unsuccessful they only have to make a mistake once.
Not even "adapted". Tapping is a common mode of EMDR. The "e" piece is a bit of a misnomer.
https://www.getthegloss.com/health/mental-health/tapping-the...
From the blog post linked by the GGGP:

"In 2017, we terminated the neo-Nazi troll site The Daily Stormer. And in 2019, we terminated the conspiracy theory forum 8chan."

https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflares-abuse-policies-and-a...

The claim is that a "utility" does not cut off service for users who they disagree with. In the blog post, Cloudfare appears to claim that they will follow this standard in the future:

"Just as the telephone company doesn't terminate your line if you say awful, racist, bigoted things, we have concluded in consultation with politicians, policy makers, and experts that turning off security services because we think what you publish is despicable is the wrong policy. To be clear, just because we did it in a limited set of cases before doesn’t mean we were right when we did. Or that we will ever do it again."

Regardless of whether they made the right decision here, this definitely feels like an abrupt 180 turn.
Have you used any modern VR sets?
Wow, guess I dodged a bullet then.
Targeted harassment for the purpose of getting people to kill themselves is illegal. People have gone to jail for less than what KF gloats about. All the free speach absolutists crying about "censorship" just shows how ridiculous their ideology is. Instead of whining about cloudflare they should be looking for lawyers.
I suppose the contention here is that at one point you’re looking at a website, are told its modus operandi, see a lot of the content it hosts… and at one point 230 starts being less relevant.

Like if you have multiple incidents with the same site at one point you need to actually acknowledge that these incidents are here! You might still declare “it’s ok though” but honestly that arguments way easier with something like Reddit compared to something “single-use” like KF.

Obviously not a lawyer, but it feels possible to argue this in a securities fraud case
You are mixing up land erosion with sea level rise.
I guess what makes it difficult in this case is that the amount of power CF has is so great that any use of that power is immediately troubling.

It's a bit like if pretty much all security guards were under the control of a single company and that company denied services to a person under threat, and in this analogy there's no government to fill the gap.
But why now? The site has been known for years.