skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Your post has a misunderstanding of basic economics. The high salaries of FAANG are not at "the cost of everyone else"
I expect better.

It's easy to ask Palestinians and Gazans and Israelis to fight and die from the comfort of our western basements, but how many of you have the courage to point to a peace deal and publicly advocate that the sides sign it to end the conflict?

How many comments and articles on social media (including HN) push people to take sides instead? Seldom to I see articles or comments even mention the last viable peace deal that was on the table.

It's the worst kind of journalism, and it attracts the worst kind of online participants.
The economy of Germany is a highly developed social market economy.[24] It has the largest national economy in Europe, the fourth-largest by nominal GDP in the world, and fifth by GDP (PPP). In 2017, the country accounted for 28% of the euro area economy according to the International Monetary Fund (IMF).[25]

Looks OK
The problem is who defines what is hate - don't trust a govt to make that - they are the last people I would trust.

We have no solution in this age - it was easy in the older days when consensus was reached within a village on what was bad for the community and you got either got tarred and feathered or thrown out.
> Once you move beyond the formulaic "here's how to put these pieces together to make a website" suddenly everyone gets lost.

Maybe because “learn to code” really means “learn to make websites”?

I never learned how to make websites, never coded a line of JavaScript and have no idea what people who do those things are talking about with their frameworks and whatever but I know how to code so could probably figure it out fairly easily if I was motivated enough.

Maybe if they taught people how to use the language instead of how to glue together different bits of library code things would be different. Probably not a full CS curriculum but more than React in 30 days.
Too late to edit, I meant 'while a valid statement'
I highly recommend the TED Talk 'Taming your advice monster'. Sometimes it's about really listening and letting people figuring out by themselves
spoken like a true dirty console peasant

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P0dXtOVi2yo&t=58s
What makes you think it would ever get there?

Vague unfounded promises of salvation in the future are the stuff of cults, not sound policy making.
Me too, which is why this whole incident and some of the posters here reaction to it is so strange. They never should have entered the goat into the 4H show.
Your comment has aged badly.
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I am a Micro SaaS developer, with +3 years of Next.js experience. Right now, I am creating MVP projects - Micro SaaS apps for my clients, but I don't want to deal with clients anymore, so I am looking for a job.
Before that, I was working with MERN stack, but for now I am mostly in Next.js.
I am a hard worker, I will be happy to join your team.

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I mean, yes, namespace pollution is a problem but Homebrew goes to a fair amount of effort to avoid that. I have to add things like OpenSSL, etc. to my direnv for projects where I want to use those instead of the system versions and they support using /opt/homebrew on older systems, too, for people who don't mind skipping bottle builds.

> if they are trying to enforce a setup where the only binaries in the default shell $PATH are in directories that are not world-writable, that really does seem like a totally valid security mitigation.

Think about what threats you're concerned about. Homebrew installs are writable only by the user who installed them and members of the admin group. If you're not on a system with other users, this doesn't matter: someone who can run code or drop files into arbitrary locations as you can already do whatever they want (e.g. maybe you lock down /usr/local but do they even care as they drop something into your .profile or LaunchDaemons?). That's why Apple has worked on the various sandboxing methods because this model is too brittle.

If you are on a multiuser system, this could be a way to move sideways but it comes down to the question of how likely it is that an attacker would compromise the admin user who installed Homebrew without getting the ability to use their administrative privileges. That's certainly possible but it seems relatively uncommon and that's part of why I think it's a huge stretch to go from “there's an obscure edge case I want to hit” to “These people who've given me thousands of hours of their work for free are bad neighbors”.
I believe it should be: "However, if a fly goes past, it can get in the way of the laser (or whatever the mouse uses) and trigger mouse movement."
The Origin of the 30k-Year-Old Venus of Willendorf
Hope the tech elite who naysay journalism take note that it wasn't the 3 suicides, or the swatting, or the death threats or the stalking or the harassment that compelled Matthew Prince to stop hosting kiwifarms.

It was the heat from negative PR that did it.
Appreciate it. Just connected with him.
Completely conjecture. Why do you assume good will from companies?
I presume users on kiwifarms (KF) use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction techniques to publish private information elsewhere (such as private addresses) so that the information can then legally be reposted on KF. Coordination-of-information has an accomplice role in some of the illegal activities "reported" by KF.
This strategy will not ultimately survive contact with law enforcement. They need to stop doxxing.
Assuming they know the exact composition and density I'm sure they could calculate a reasonable guess.
"Here's the personal info on this person that we all hate and constantly talk shit about. It includes their address and contact information. We're totally putting this out here for innocent reasons. We trust you guys won't go harass these people now because that's against our rules!"
> There were no good choices for Cloudflare here

100%. To me this isn't really about KF (which clearly sucks and should be offline, but through actual legal processes), this is a matter of, "When does internet infrastructure end and content moderation begin?" As I mentioned in a previous discussion[0], Cloudflare finds itself right at the blurred edge of this line, made more complicated by CF providing both hosting, which is generally seen as content, and DDOS mitigation, which is more ambiguous.

The same people who cheer this decision wouldn't be happy if, say, DNS servers refused to resolve mega.io because it hosts illegal pornography. Or if their ISP started blocking PTP or nyaa.si for copyright infringement. This is to say nothing, of course, of any suspect political interference in internet infrastructure, which we already see around the world[1].

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32664488

[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/22/pakistans-former-pm-khan-say...
Apply to be a federally protected wildlife habitat. My daughter did that in a city in Indiana. Ripped out her 'lawn' and replanted with native grasses and things to promote butterfly and bee habitats. The city hates that they can't fine her anymore.

https://www.nwf.org/garden-for-wildlife/certify
100% they are trying to have their cake and eat it too. First you pretend you care about free speech for a week and gesticulate in public. Then you come up with some extraordinary circumstance so it doesn’t seem like it’s the new normal.
>CF users like KiwiFarms have been weaponizing this policy for years

If your complaint is that the host should be the only one to see the full report then your point doesn't stand since Josh pays to have his own ASN so he can personally handle reports for it.

If your point is that only Cloudflare should have the name I don't think it counts as a valid DMCA takedown since it's not like you have a signed document from the copyright holder or someone on their behalf.
Like turbo pascal, a radically easy to use technology that was wildly successful at the time, but sank without trace in a few years as fashions shifted.
The EU has a similar population size, wide censorship laws for this kinda of conduct, and a similar economy size. China has a similar economy and much stricter speech laws. The US isn't economically special because of free speech

Edit: fixed a typo, changed a “must” to “much”
I am a free speech absolutist, but I read the Wikipedia page on this site and it seems bad. "Crimes were committed," "People lost their lives" bad. Unjustifiably bad.

That said, is anyone willing to steelman this website? Could this possibly be construed as just a big misunderstanding?
I also hear that the Moog Museum in Asheville, NC is quite nice.
> I don’t believe you have the same information as cloudflare

Yes he does - the activity of KF posters is public.

The amount of bullshitting going on here is insane. People are just making things up wholesale.
Everything about this legitimately seems like a plot from Silicon Valley. Life imitates art?
In this case cloudflare isn't the host though. They have hosting services but kiwifarms only makes use of their ddos protection (which is a reverse proxy). That means they aren't the actual host.
Not working with fascists (yes, really) makes me much happier about cloudflare. They have their problems but they're not totally amoral.
Can you explain how paying software engineers higher salaries means other people need to live "perilous lives". You could just lower your EBIDTA a bit. Software engineers in the US aren't rich because of janitors being underpaid or something.
Then they should provide at least some basic details. Trusting them to be honest is silly. This sort of thing needs transparency.
Its so weird how everyone we don't like is a nazi.

Your opinion appears to be popular though. Through enough pressure we have successfully removed ddos protection from a site that people on here hope gets ddos'ed.

One day, this conversation and this thread will be remembered. How there was a period where everyone celebrated corporations silencing individuals or allowing mobs to ddos them. What happened to our internet.
Kiwifarms has a strict "do not interact with the people being discussed" policy. Anyone who does is immediately scorned for it and often banned. It's not uncommon for people outside of the forum to swat others and blame it on the forums, though.
The notion that government should be in charge of effectively eliminating speech we don't like so that private companies don't have to is _far worse_ than the current state of things.
Can you do algorithms in your head with more than two or three variables and reliably get the right answer?
>So it’s fine to call for violence, as long as the violence in question would be legal if it were acted upon?

No. It's fine to call for violence as long as your call is not designed to provoke and cause imminent lawless action. Brandenburg advocated for "revengeance" against the government if their demands were not met, and that was protected speech. Hess v. Indiana also affirms that advocating for lawless action is protected speech.
The main requirement to graduate high school remains showing up for twelve years and following the rules. Educators continue to pretend that a diploma indicates measured proficiency in specific subjects, even in the face of decades of contrary evidence.

As the article points out Oregon follows rather than leads other states debasing diplomas even more. The article does not point out the demographics of the state, one of the whitest in the country, with de facto segregation in Portland, the largest school district in Oregon, and indigenous children growing up on reservations.

I graduated from an Oregon high school a long time ago, under a different regime of requirements and tests. I rarely went to school or did homework. I used part of that time to teach myself programming. Later I unschooled my three kids in Oregon, following no curriculum and administering no tests, and they all got diplomas.

Rather than address the fundamental failures of confining and indoctrinating children for twelve years and calling it education, the latest fad looks to identity and diversity (or lack of, in Oregon’s case). That schools routinely fail to teach even basic literacy and numeracy in twelve years should tell us something, and what it tells probably has little to do with standardized test bias.
I think Cloudflare did think it was a dangerous site, but they would really prefer not having the responsibility of being the arbiter of what can and cannot be hosted, as well as all of the negative publicity that comes with being so. At the same time, I believe they believe that current legal process surrounding how things like this are handles are so woefully underdeveloped that turning a blind eye is not being neutral, it's being irresponsible.

Taking downs sites like this hurts the view of infrastructure neutrality, so I'm sure it's not done lightly, even when someone goes against their policy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_(website)
Just adding some light to the escalations; there were bomb and shoot threats over the last few days.
The userbase on the site upped the tone of their "jokes"/threats after the last blog post and thats what caused the final suspension.
Why? I ride it even when I have no cargo needs. It is just like a regular bike really. I guess it's harder to drag it up 5 flights of stairs.
Yeah the summary made for great reading. This kind of research (and the fact it could help alzheimer's as well...) should be funded to high heaven.
Both times, people organized a social media campaign to try to get CF to drop services for a site they disliked, and both times CF first refused in the interest of free speech, safe harbor, let law enforcement handle it, etc, then flipped like a switch and dropped their services when the mob didn't go away fast enough.

Now you can hate Stormfront's message (I do), and you can hate what people are allowed to say and do on Kiwi Farms, and in that light you can feel that CF's actions are just fine. But just be aware that if your site becomes the next pariah of the internet some way or some how, CF is prone to drop your services as well.

And it's their right to do so, of course, but the way they're saying stuff like "The policies we articulated last Wednesday remain our policies" and that this is a special case are rather ridiculous. How many more times will this happen before it stops being a particularly special case?
The Stormfront decision is, IMO, not remotely a debacle and much more easily defensivly.

Stormfront was hosted using Cloudflare, and Cloudflare gave them the boot.

If you are not familiar with Stormfront, they actively promote violent white supremacy and Nazi ideologies.
> I don’t believe you have the same information as cloudflare and assuming good faith I believe them when they say there are legitimate threats to body and person.

I don't believe that Cloudflare gathered the same volume of info that many others have about KF. OP's point is that behavior as bad or worse than what's been going on (yes, including super detailed doxxing, swatting, death threats, and the like) have all been going on for YEARS on KF, and Cloudflare paid no mind until a larger campaign got going.

Full disclosure: I'm actually disappointed that they made the decision to cut them off. Not because I'm pro-KF at ALL, it is absolutely abhorrent. But I do tend to peruse extremist circles on both sides to understand the radicalism a little better, and generally think that keeping these folks relegated to unseen areas is net-negative.

But to the original point, I think it's disingenuous to suggest that this decision wasn't primarily catalyzed by the PR calculus of more people being in the "shut it down" camp than the "leave it up" camp (which makes sense to me, as soon as the spotlight is cast, most people are going to say it's disgusting and should be taken down).
I suppose you're right, and a bunch of them seem to be throwaways, or perhaps people who only made an account to defend their site (I'm basically on a throwaway too). Sad they fell into the same persecution complex thing people seem to get trapped in... like you're really defending the site where they welcomed the Christchurch shooter's manifesto? You really think you're doing something? That's what you want to fight for?
Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) Method Registry
CLoudflare makes it nearly impossible to operate without a large network by knownly allowing DDOS-for-Hire services to illegally use its services.
Neither KF nor its members swatted MTG. It was absolutely done to place blame on KF and doesn’t even comport with the image those who dislike the site paint - that KF is a radical, right wing forum designed to harass minorities and political opponents.
I haven’t done any significant consulting since moving to FAANG. Occasional due diligence on M&A. Occasionally a Board Advisor. Nothing that creates conflict with the day job.

So, I’m a W-2 employee now in an executive-level role, have been for several years, and this is my second such role (meaning two companies now have hired me in from outside as a senior leader). Right now I’d say FAANG-adjacent, it’s not a company in the acronym, it’s still a huge employer. They’re paying highly competitively and matched the deal offerer by a FAANG when I moved jobs in 2020. I would expect this is probably what I’ll be doing until I “retire”.

Retirement to me doesn’t actually mean entirely ceasing doing work but I’m only going to be pursuing interesting problems with interesting people in a few years.

Overall my point though was you’re doing something today not just to make a paycheck this month, but hopefully to lead up to something next year or the year after, and you should have an endgame. Evaluate whether generalist consulting/contracting really supports that endgame for you, and don’t just focus on how do I get from $50/hr to $200/hr and then have a “Oh, crap, this skillset and my resume now makes it even harder to get to the endgame that I’m seeking”.
Everyone hated that afaik.
Aren’t we stupid enough already?
Just to give a minor counter point, I've been at Amazon for 5 years. In that time, I've been in two different orgs and 4 different teams. All in Seattle. I'm yet to see people crying at their desks.

The trick to happiness at Amazon is staying the hell away from anything tier 1 -- or, hell, just anything with direct lines to external customers. Those "9s" we give are delivered on the backs of engineers. I'd for sure break down and cry too if I was getting paged 50 times per week because the response time of some subsystem went outside SLA by 5ms.

Chill org, chill life.
This is correct, and easily verifiable with a quick look at the actual website.

It is also entirely possible that users coordinate harassment out-of-band. I am unable to tell if this is what’s happening.
>It must be so embarrassing for the politicians who have been running Mississippi.

Water systems are run by the cities, not the state.

It's fair to say that maintenance has been put off for long before the current city leadership took office, but it's also fair to say that the current leadership knew the system was failing (it's failed several times over the last few years) and didn't even develop a plan of action.

As the House member whose district includes Jackson put it:

>U.S. Rep. Bennie Thompson said the state bears some blame for neglecting Jackson for decades, but if the capital city cannot properly run its water system, “I would not be in favor of the city being given back the authority to run it.”

Thompson said he has been talking with the mayor and other city leaders and repeated, “I have not seen a plan,” about a long-term fix for the water system.

https://mississippitoday.org/2022/09/02/bennie-thompson-jack...

He's also said that, like everyone else, he can't even get details on what went wrong this time.

>“I think it would be advantageous for the city to come up with a plan, and to share that plan with as many sources of help as possible. I know there’s a water problem with the city of Jackson, but nobody has shared the facts on the problem with me, as one of the Representatives, as well as what the cure or the plan for correcting it.”

https://yallpolitics.com/2022/08/23/thompson-jackson-shouldn...
Employees Speak about Project Nimbus and Google's Silencing Culture
The middle ground that already exists - the right of free speech doesn't guarantee an audience, and the right to assembly doesn't guarantee a platform. Censorship is permitted within the marketplace of ideas as an inevitable consequence of the fact that coerced speech cannot be considered free, but the government is far more limited.

If Kiwifarms wants to continue "this degree of free speech" it's up to them to find someone willing to tolerate their bullshit, and then to not step over the line, as they apparently just did with Cloudflare.
Are they a paying customer in the first place?
I drive a Mercedes-Benz Metris and it’s exactly that.
And the Nazis...? In both cases, the problem is latent inside our societies. The dam bursts and revolutionary fervor appear until checked away. Not until a large amount of innocent victims.

PRC is state capitalist as well, rhetoric notwithstanding. They even needed to purge their Marxists a few years back.
The point isyou get x units of heat and y units of electricity (probably around 2 and 1) from x + y + a tiny bit units of chemical potential.

You can't put x units of heat that is already hotter than the hot well into the cold well of an idealized heat pump and come out ahead of just putting it into the hot well.

You could run it through a heat engine (TEG or stirling engine or similar) and extract some work with your heat pump's 'hot well' as your 'cold well' then use the work to move other heat inside but this is extra complexity.

There might also be eg. some temperature of your cold well where your heat pump's efficiency diverges because viscosity changes or you're not in a situation where modelling it as a single phase change in your working fluid is good or something. Then it might help to waste some free enthalpy (but not discard the energy into the environment entirely) to warm it up slightly.

Presumably none of these things are worth the added hassle especially if x + y is already close to the heating energy needed and y is close to the electrical energy needed inside. The benefit of whatever convoluted scheme you come up with would only be COP * second_heat_engine_efficiency * x which is likely around the same size as x or a bit smaller. Maybe a 30-50% reduction in overall energy input for more than doubling the complexity.
Heavily reminiscent of Reddit caving in on /r/jailbait following exposure in the WSJ. Actually not heavily reminiscent, identical
Their transparency actually makes me sympathetic to the weight of the decisions they're making. Their acknowledgement that it could make things worse is also very honest and refreshing. I hope they continue making these posts especially since they control such a massive percentage of internet infrastructure.
Why get a website's ddos protection removed unless you're planning on ddosing it?
I can only go by my experience in that a passion for making computers do things was the seed. From there it drove a desire to learn more.
I don't think most people can sustain the desire without that.
It really should be about feeding the innate talents.
Could I make a living playing music? No. It's not a one size fits all thing.
My Internet claim to fame was writing a program to get people off of FoxPro to PostgreSQL: https://github.com/kstrauser/pgdbf

FoxPro was nifty in many ways, but nightmarish outside the “single person running the app with the database on their local hard drive” setup. The moment you tried to put the database files on a file share (which is how you used it as a network DB), it was a world of locking pain. And a fun fact: the client libraries were single threaded to the point that you could only run one query at a time per machine. If you had 2 apps running at once, only one of them could be querying at any given time.
How ? They aren't hosting the server and aren't hosting the backend itself.