skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> But freedom of speech/expression/opinions aren't about defending those who speech/expression/opinions you like but all of them.

Freedom of Speech is not absolute.[1] There are limitations, and it sounds like KiwiFarms members crossed that line many, many times without KiwiFarms doing anything about it.

But more importantly, CloudFlare is not a government entity. There’s no First Amendment right to speak on social media, because free speech is a right guaranteed against government censorship. Though in an astounding overreach, courts have declared the Internet a "Free Speech Zone," (whatever that means), courts have also ruled that platforms have a First Amendment right to ban those they wish to ban.

So the outrage here is really about the long-standing Constitutional and case law limitations on Freedom of Speech and not about anything CloudFlare did in exercising their First Amendment right to dissociate from KiwiFarms and its members.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech#Limitations
If this site is filled with high-IQ individuals then that just proves how limited intelligence is. You need more traits.
There is no replication problem here. It's a matter of opinion, mostly. I'm assuming since the article is paywalled, most people aren't reading and instead applying their own biases.

The challenging researchers are simply implying that the original study did not account for the positive effects of red meat (vaguely 'vitamins and minerals).
>> We could do a lot of good for the world just stopping our out of control need to drive cars everywhere and for everything

You are absolutely right, zero emission private aircraft would be much better. Let's build a world where everyone can have that if they want instead of placing nihilistic limits on things.
I don't believe it would be an enormous benefit at all. What are you basing that claim on?
The idea that this is scary or unsettling is libertarian bullshit.

Kiwi Farms is a societal antagonist. The paradox of tolerance shows us that we need to not tolerate assholes like them.

This whole idea that there's a "mob" that's "screaming loud enough" is, in this case, is just the rest of well-adjusted society refusing to tolerate these assholes.

I think of it this way: if I build something that's "agnostic" and still offer it to someone I know is harming others, and in some cases committing crimes or enabling them, that means a part of my labor is helping that act, and my service is no longer agnostic. It's almost like I am working for them.

If I know who my customer is, and I know what they do, I can no longer claim ignorance. If I sell Internet service to Adolf Hitler and I know who he is, I'm complicit.
Many, many public schools in the US gave out COVID shots without parental consent. It also seems that several of them are encouraging kids to transition and hide it from their parents - a school in Alaska was recently sued for this.
Reddit nukes hate subs weekly. They're slow to get to it, but they do it. As far as Facebook live and Instagram live, those platforms weren't made with the sole purpose of harassing and doxxing people. Neither is reddit. When they find communities that promote those things they do take them down. Their moderation is slow and overwhelmed, but don't pretend Facebook encourages murders on live streams. KiwiFarms does encourage everything that happens on it.

If you're going to take a strawman this far, blame the cellphone and camera manufacturers involved in those live streams. As well as the landlord who owned the building it happened in. And any restaurants that serve them, can't murder if you don't eat.
That's a bold claim to make that angry twitter mob is a majority. Keep in mind, the deplatforming you're celebrating today might have people you like at the receiving end tomorrow.
Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of Power
ok that was a really long and involved article, I will admit I didn't read the whole thing. If the punchline is the inverse of the title, then jokes on me.

afaik most agile systems are pretty clear that cross team velocity is non-comparable. (if if teams are shuffled the velocity will change).

But, the one thing it's meant to be used for is estimates. After sufficient iterations of the loop a team should both have increasing velocity (due to knowledge of codebase), and increasing accuracy of estimates (both dialing into sprint point / effort tuning, and knowledge of codebase) .

afaik velocity was never meant to tell you about how to improve itself. Thats more for Retros. (retrospectives)
I agree! KF is expressing their speech just as freely as they did before. But less of society is choosing to support that speech. What do you see wrong with that?
Personally I was convinced by double-blind tests done about 20 years ago. It's been a while, but I think it was by heise.de (with the c't magazine).
> This is not reddit, calm down on the snark and try to actually have a discussion if you're gonna go for it.

Like the slippery slope of dropping terrorist harrasser site being "extremely scary" is actually an attempt of discussion, right?
If even only half the material presented in "The social dilemma" was credible, Meta have absolutely been knowingly responsible for more harm than KF. I don't know what the right solution is.
HRL Laboratories writes new code in Common Lisp for quantum computing. They have internships and full-time positions.

Google employs Common Lisp programmers as well for their flight search product.

RavenPack, SISCOG, GrammaTech, Grammarly, SRI (?), MIND.AI, and others as well (or at least used to). Check out [1].

[1] https://github.com/azzamsa/awesome-lisp-companies
> At the very least, this seems like something to approach with extreme caution.

Like you, I'm not overly informed on the factual question here, but I don't understand why you think banning the content is somehow the cautious course of action.

The heuristics for which action is the "cautious" one is usually some combination of:

a) which outcome is less likely to be harmful
b) which outcome is more passive (ie primum non nocere)
c) which outcome is more predictable (eg the status quo)

It seems to me that bans fail on the first two counts[1] and squeak by on the third. Even this status quo argument is weakened by how new these bans are, and by the many contemporary countries in which fictionalized CP is legal.

[1] In the former case, this is based on the practically universal consensus that sexual preferences, even dangerous and deviant ones, are burned deeply into one's psyche and can't simply be ignored through lack of exposure. This view was most famously one of the strongest pillars of the successful iteration of the gay rights movement, and is why we consider conversion therapy to be horrific. One can make the claim that this factual claim only applies to gender preferences, but that seems quite an extraordinary claim.
It seems there's a distinct historical lack of lynching of violent racists and bigots. They appear to be the perpetrators of the vast majority of lynchings. Where "lynching" is not the getting rejected by an internet service provider but getting dragged by some violent thugs to be leered at in your final moments as you struggle and choke to death gasping for air for no reason at all.

To equate the two is to insult the rest of us and I, for one, despise being insulted.
Besides that I can only recommend Slime, you can basically convert any program that doesn't use readline into one via rlwrap. Very useful :)
It doesn't have a bad reputation, it's cosine similarity done faster by approximation, something part of many ML papers and systems these days.
>It's not based on partisan affiliation, I never said anything of the sort. I said bad actions/bad actors.

This is just shifting the partisan question-begging to the notion of "bad actions/bad actors." Why not just embrace the "doxxing is good when we do it" point that I originally made?
This move and people's response to it is not about lines and principles. It's pretty much a slippery slope and we all know it; some cheer it on because this time their line was crossed, and others see it for what it's signaling. The overall erosion of discourse on non-accepted ideas and topics that are on the scale of mean/offensive/hateful.

Yeah none of us here are happy about this site existing or innocent people being targeted, of course. But the next one will be slightly less extreme as kiwi farms and we'll say the same things.
China locks down 65 million, discourages holiday travel
You have no idea how ironic this comment is considering the history of Cloudflare. I remember going to a talk by their CEO at Defcon years ago when Scientology was being DDoSed and he was bragging about providing CDN services to the Anonymous hacker groups that were behind the DDoS. Cloudflare didn't seem to care about free speech for the Scientologists. There was even a huge discussion about whether performing a DDoS was itself a version of free speech or not (this was assuming people were volunteering their computers to join the botnet, as was the case with the scientology protests).

It's funny you mention the megaphone thing too, as that is an example of free speech. People do this regularly. The person with the megaphone has the free speech right to shout over the person next to him- at least in public.

> Sure, you might celebrate when that’s done to someone you dislike, but a lot less appealing if you imagine it done to a cause you agree with.

The slippery slop fallacy is called a fallacy for a reason. What kills me though is that people on this site aren't nearly as upset about Cloudflare taking down Switter and other sex worker websites as they are about Kiwifarms. It makes it hard to take the free speech argument seriously when the people making it only care about it when the sites they visit get taken down.
nope, I just used the DDR2 reference for comparison. Thanks!
Using a country as an epithet is something that I haven't seen since high school. Nigeria is a beautiful place which has historically been incredibly rich with resources during a phase of history where pillaging, and the its subsequent suppression of rights, is rife, whether it's done by foreign nations or, currently, multinational corporations.

> China is very explicitly not an ally

The very public announcement at the Olympics says, very explicitly, otherwise.
Code comments are like swearing/cursing: If you use them sparingly they get noticed. Otherwise, they are pointless.
Thats great, but this was the proposal I was responding to:
"We need yearly scans or even monthly scans (MRI) for everyone"
Special multicolored crayons.

Or is that only the Marines?
I do wish people would archive these pages to dissuade any doubt of wrongdoing.

For the love of god, please use archive.ph or archive.org.
If "go into hiding" means "not posting personally-identifiable information on the public internet", then that doesn't sound so bad. In fact, that's what I always do all the time on the internet, as should everyone.
KiwiFarms members often don't just take notes of those they laugh at. They actively get involved in harassing them, online, through the phone and in person.
HDMI capture on desktop via USB-C to HDMI adapter can give even better quality, audio is transmitted digitally via HDMI.
If I'm not mistaken, this is a just an instance of EtherPad with ChaosPad branding. What, if anything, makes this unique?
20'ish years ago I remember the original author of the `pam_realm` PAM module [0] writing the module becase "it was easier to work around PAM, than to understand what the fuck was happening inside of PAM".

[0] https://github.com/sa2ajj/pam-realm
SWATing and harassment is explicitly prohibited on Kiwi Farms, and the site owner aggressively removes such content. "Doxing" is for better or worse not a crime, and is practiced by the very same people currently crying for Kiwi Farms' deletion.
Sure thing, boss, although I'll be repeating myself. Actively encouraging others to harass and doxx specific individuals or groups crosses that line.
Thanks for letting me know. Fixed!
It's absolutely incredible how much more efficient cow milk is per kg compared to beef. Some of that must be because milk is even more watery than meat is, but the rest must come from being able to get milk from cows throughout their (kind of miserable, sadly) lifespan.

A huge amount of muscle is grown and destroyed cyclically as part of a cow's natural life. It's horrific, but imagine if meat could be "harvested" from living animals - how much would that improve beef's efficiency? Is there a less-abusive to sentient critters equivalent of this idea? (mushrooms?)
A reverse-cycle air conditioner is equally efficient at heating a building as cooling one.
oh, that's easy: Stormfront, the Daily Stormer...

... hey, Kiwifarm's holding company was named 'Final Solutions, LLC', what a coincidence! ;)

https://twitter.com/keffals/status/1563748563926089730

take a seat, gamers... we've found the REAL most-oppressed minority here (/s)
Yeah, this basically.

Trans people weren't a substantial portion of queer spaces until the mid to late 2010s, and I'm talking about the 90s and early-mid 00s. There was also more of a focus on passing/not talking about it + it was more common to be in the closet, so even if I had been acquainted with trans women, I probably wouldn't have known.

On the other hand, I've seen entitled behavior from trans women in lesbian spaces post 2015ish. It just hasn't been directed at me personally because predators choose their victims based on vulnerability and I aged out of that. Not many sexual predators go after men or women OLDER than they are.
Sit down in the boat. Thepiratebay is still online a trizillion years after all the debacles.

Cloudflare is not the biggest player at these services. Any other major competitor does not allow services like KW. This whole ordeal is stupid.
Calling it "harassment" is perhaps a bit misleading if it's people gossiping about and making fun of someone behind their back. Harassment generally involves intentional (as opposed to incidental) communication to the target. The issue is that this forum (like Twitter and other forums) is generally readable by the public, so someone can observe two people saying stuff about them, but it's not addressed to them.

It might be more like stalking, but one could also argue that writing a hit piece in a mainstream publication is also stalking as it could intimidate the target.
When the political reality of the place where you live influences that, I definitely support gray-market solutions. Just like https://abort.lol/ exists for abortion.
The paper also shows that the proposed QC strategy for calculating energy levels - where you start with a guess and then optimise - may not lead to exponential speedup on a large class of important chemicals, because just coming up with an appropriate initial guess has no polynomial time algorithm at present. So it's not clear for what class of chemicals this would even theoretically become a tractable calculation.
The national highway system was a military not economic or social policy designed to allow for easy transport of troops in the event of a way. That is why many cities have large beltways that surround them, the idea being that if a city is nuked the highway is outside the blast radius.
Sadly, people have been killed over parking spaces.

The amount of anger and violence can be wildly out of proportion to the actual offense.
They got coinbase and opensea...not sure there was much else to get tbh.
> Maybe kiwifarms is all people say they are

"All people say they are" is a site running coordinated harassment campaigns, including SWATing and bomb threats, though. Those are clear crimes. You can't seriously be arguing that CloudFlare or DDos-Guard or whoever shouldn't be allowed to choose not to do business with that sort of thing, can you?

Like so many others here[1], your perception thing seems to be based solely on your personal judgement as to whether the claims are true. But if they're true, it doesn't seem very controversial at all. And even if they're not true, it seems like the only party's judgement that really matters here (absent law enforcement, of course), is CloudFlare's.

[1] I admit I've been stunned at the general level of anti-trans sentiment in these threads. So many of these subthreads end in arguments like yours, which sound like they're trying to be arguments of general libertarian principle but end up falling into subjectivity traps.
This is what my critics who say things like "lol, we know you're for censorship" don't understand. The Nazi movement rose because they were free to express their vile ideology. Germany prevented renazification for 80 years through censorship.

This was what Marcuse was getting at in "Repressive Tolerance". Some views deserve free expression. Others do not. If you give free expression to all perspectives, the vile ones will spread until you can't control them anymore, and then you're no longer a tolerant society but a repressive one.

We have the means and now the will to identify vile speech online and shut it down at the network level.
I have done some PHP in the context of modern WordPress before (Bedrock/Sage/Trellis). Meh. It's sufferable but it did not give me immense joy.

I am mostly doing frontend but I want to find a productive full stack framework, I am still hesitating between Rails and Laravel. Still thinking of using Rails though.
>If it becomes known that you're renting a spare room to a neonazi who's become infamous to twitter, don't expect to stay out of the fray.

Do you have any examples of this line being crossed? I mean I'm sure that oftentimes the mob has raised these issues to landlords and managed to get leases revoked, but I haven't seen an actual serious attempt to attack an unresponsive landlord in the way we've seen with the attack on Cloudflare.
Same in rich Austria. I saw many apartments around the million euro ballpark in the older posh city center buildings, that are still heated by firewood stoves and many countryside houses are still heated by oil. Heat pumps? Ha! Never saw them anywhere around here.

It all feels incredibly dirty and inefficient to me for such a rich country.
Do you have a reference for that Netflix story?
Oh, I see. Thank you for clearing this up for me. When big, rich, powerful companies get people killed they didn't intend to, so, actually, no harm done. When big, rich, powerful companies accuse a small community of getting someone killed obviously they did intend to do it and so they need to be shut down.

Very illuminating!
Alternatively, organizing crime on discord and telegram is hard enough to detect, monitor, and squash, and provides enough improvement to outcomes and profits, that it's shining a light on how incompetent our law enforcement actually is at policing this kind of organization, and that more sophisticated technologies like Tor and crypto oriented dark net markets aren't strictly necessary.
I have 2x 27", 1440p monitors connected to my M1 Pro.

I have this dock: https://amazon.com/dp/B08FF6WYZH, and both monitors are connected to the dock though HDMI.
I enjoyed PHP at one point. I wrote frameworks, ORM's, NLP, template engines, etc..

Then I discovered Go which is like a grown-up version of PHP. Really simple to get started, solid standard library (PHP relies a lot on extensions), and fixes all the little things like formatting/styling, testing, error handling, benchmarking, modules, and parallel code execution.

It does all this in much less memory and is much faster.

Go is an excellent replacement for PHP when you start hitting the limits of little Laravel apps.
Freedom of Speech also means Cloudflare doesn't have to host anyone it doesn't want to.
The only way that's going to damage your trust with your kid is if you are secret about it. Show them and tell them that you're getting onto their accounts. They could even be sitting in the room with you.

Eventually you have to stop doing this, they have to grow up, but especially when they're very young it is very important that you're actually on their account because they don't know enough to see and report when something harmful is going on.
> The hospital in question is an NHS hospital i.e. run directly by the British state as basically all hospitals are.

That's not how the English NHS works. The hospitals are run by NHS trusts. This particular hospital is run by King's College Hospital NHS Foundation Trust.

An NHS Foundation Trust is a "public benefit corporation". This means it's a business, with a chief executive, a chair, and a unitary board of executive and non-executive directors. The organisation is primarily accountable to their local population.

I know the NHS is complex, but when you say stuff like this it just shows that you haven't got a clue what you're talking about.

> In this case however the family weren't private clients so the whole thing was state run end to end.

No, this is nonsense. It's clearer to see in cancer services, but a lot of stuff is provided via MacMillan charitable funding.
Were you actually electrocuting them I'm fairly sure you'd end up in gaol before having to deal with service disconnection.
The part that kept me coming back as a child was feeling of completely stonewalling my little brother and getting a "shut out"
Look, man, if you can't agree that people shouldn't target, harass and doxx people then we have no common ground to continue this conversation.
If what the model wanted to generate based on that prompt is considered not safe for work, you know what the training data must’ve been like...
Yes, I post/tweet into the void...
You could call any politically-adjacent forum a "terrorist harasser" site. Is Wikileaks not a "terrorist harasser site" in the 9/11-era rhetoric?
> Would it kill you to have any sort of critical analysis of power for once in your life?

You seem angry. Have you considered addressing that?
It seems that this is accepted behavior with the large corporate internet infrastructure companies, though. There are many in powerful government positions worldwide that applaud this behavior, because it is in vogue.
I've never pulled that one but I've done a couple of very hard stops coming off the freeway. Long drive, tired, I hear the engine RPMs dropping and my foot comes down on the "clutch" as my hand goes for the gearshift. I learned on a car with a very stiff clutch, I catch the brake pedal and it's going to the floor. (My father had a bad habit of riding the clutch while going through the gears. A mechanic friend deliberately put in a stiffer spring to minimize the damage.)

Smoothly operating a manual has to be muscle memory and whenever you're dealing with muscle memory there's the issue of unintended capture. It doesn't take much to reprogram things like learning the actual working range of *this* clutch but skipping it entirely takes a lot more learning.
> I am not talking about investing in companies. I am talking about how these companies invest their R&D capital in projects.

Some food for thought:

These companies do have economies of scale on their side for internal tech investments. Things like this are a cheaper bet for them than for anyone else. Investments that seem irrational in a vacuum (aka for anybody else) can be rational for these specialized parties.

They already have hardware specialists, contacts / relationships, software expertise, idle bodies, etc.
New house rule : It's illegal to say you have a house rule without citing said house rule.
If you think screenshots of someone saying slurs in 2014 is evidence of someone being part of the daily stormer i'm afraid a lot more of the internet is a part of the daily stormer than you think.

The usage of weev's the trial is also pretty absurd and manipulative, given that his trial wasn't really related to the daily stormer, but about hacking, so much so that the EFF[0] defended him.

[0]: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/07/weevs-case-flawed-begi...
People that called for them had their careers destroyed and were deplatformed.