skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
garbage article from liberal arts graduate. Lost half of my brain reading this nonsense
For those unfamilar with the California scene: there is an agricultural water shortage, not a residential one.

You could reduce residential usage of water in California to zero and it would barely make a dent in the water shortage. California can relatively easily desalinate its way out of residential water shortage.

On the other hand, shutting down the agribusinesses in the Central Valley completely fixes California's water shortage for everybody.
"Hate the message" is a huge oversimplification.

People don't want Stormfront gone for aesthetic reasons. They want Stormfront and similar sites gone because they encourage physical violence against certain peoples.

It is, IMO, a huge strawman to say that people just "don't like" these sites.
Whatever people do by themselves is their own business.
You’re OK with Kiwifarms killing this person and several others and being proud of it. Maybe you aren’t as ignorant as you claim?

https://www.reddit.com/r/retrogaming/comments/o91umv/rip_byu...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

Aside: I'd love to be a fly on the wall as you try to discuss your stance with a person with one more chromosome than you
You used the word revolutionary. I merely pointed out that that's not always a good thing.

Revolutions have a way of eating their own.
Somehow it's Freedom when a company refuses to make a cake for a gay couple, but Tyranny if a company providing hosting and DDOS protection services decide not to work with a company who explicitly violates their terms of service.
Location: Istanbul

Remote: Yes

Willing to relocate: Depends on offer

Technologies: Next.js, MongoDB, Supabase, AWS, Redis

Résumé/CV: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PfFC9BnNnDQq0P6Cjcgo1avG6-Z...

Email: ferhat@ekofi.science
> When you have an algorithm that suggests things to people, you are a de facto publisher and whatever you do, you're choosing what to promote.

But CloudFlare doesn’t. That’s why they position themselves as a common carrier.
canceling someone is about their professional or political connections. Kiwifarms eggs people on to kill their targets. They are not equivalent
I took a quick look at one of the “ultimate” variations and it was $9995, which is listed on their site.
Hate speech is often about saying other people ought not be able to express their ideas and opinions, and that the most effective way to bring about this result is for them to not be not alive any more.

Eliminationist rhetoric is a subset of hate speech overall, but it certainly exists and is trivially easy to discover. It's odd to me that none of the self-professed 'free speech absolutists' ever seems to engage with this point.
I don't think technology even necessarily has a role to play here. After all, hate speech began the minute we developed language.
I don't, why? Found the current job off craigslist. :-D
To be clear, "Drug Distribution Website" is a common resources list for sourcing HRT when you do not have supporting medical access to it. This is a far reach from "Distributing Drugs".
It's not entirely sunk cost - there's reputational effects for a lot of people involved. Politicians who supported it look much worse if all this work (and money) has gone into it, only to have it not launch. How bad they will look is proportional to how much money was spent/work was done, so the work put in does matter to the outcome, at least for them.

That probably shouldn't be the case, but when it comes to politics, perception is very much reality in that people's perceptions translate directly to votes.
The Land. http://www.roguebasin.com/index.php?title=The_Land

Islands of Danger. https://archive.org/details/IslandsOfDangerTheV3.2SW1991Carr...

Moraff's World https://dosgames.com/game/moraffs-world/
The productivity of FoxPro has never been equaled in any software since.
The point is more - you can legally say "kill Joe Biden" on the internet, but it becomes illegal if you're saying it to someone holding a gun to Joe Biden's head, who then fires it.
Very well put. 35 years of exposure to programming here, over 25 full-time, and I feel very much the same way.
The constitution (and court interpretation) overrides statutory law.
>100%. To me this isn't really about KF (which clearly sucks and should be offline, but through actual legal processes)

Agreed! The problem is that I am not seeing a way to get there. I also don't see any incentive for the legal system to change. In fact I think there are far-right elements who probably see the situation as a Good Thing.
>I truly hope that those unsatisfied with this outcome (which I suspect will be literally everybody) can take this as an opportunity to go help pressure their respective governments to figure out what the hell should be done, systematically, about hate speech on the internet. It's only 25 years overdue at this point.

I can unfortunatley see goverments doing a China style ID required for internet sites....
https://www.unicor.gov/DataConversionVideo.aspx

Guys, we're good. Just look at the opportunity the government provides prison slaves, I mean inmates. Don't forget in the Feds you are required to work, or you will be shipped to a higher classification facility and receive Diesel Therapy(see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_therapy ).

Unicor, the Federal Government's slave labor auction site.

USA 13the Amendment to the Constitution:
"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."
Grass lawns are a red herring.

The water shortages are almost all brought about by big agribusiness usage of water in places where we shouldn't be doing big agribusinesses.
We're staring at this dilemma right now. Not for the signaling at all. Our lawn basically died in close to drought-like conditions. We didn't want to waste the water or time, but now what?

What do we replace it with that a) doesn't provide a haven for pests or harmful critters, and b) actually is safe for kiddo and other neighborhood kids, and c) doesn't destroy property values for the neighborhood?
Eh, that world is already here in the form of smartphones. I must wonder if you realize that yet.

I love the serendipity of meeting people and impromptu conversation, but that doesn't mean my entire day is spent around people. In fact, the examples I gave (cooking, exercising) are specifically things I do alone on my own.

Sure, people would use such a gadget in public, but that's already how people use smartphones + headphones so that ship has sailed. I would even argue my glasses are slightly less antisocial than the status quo since you can look up and see the world.
> Is it boring? Was I right about that?

> who uses programming as a problem solving tool

Programming can be boring, software development is much more exciting!

All software is solving a problem, same as the software that’s the output of the programming you do.

Those problems might be purely technical (like virtualising different CPU architectures) or focussed on improving the efficiency that others can solve problems (like the software running Stack Exchange) or something completely different.

Solving all of those problems requires more than programming, same as the problems you’re trying to solve need more than programming to fully resolve. Building for maintainability, reliability etc. requires much more than mindlessly programming the software.

But even the programming itself is interesting, especially when solving difficult problems.
No, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26578241/
they did, but law enforcement were simply too slow.

> However, as the pressure campaign escalated, so did the rhetoric on the Kiwifarms site. Feeling attacked, users of the site became even more aggressive. Over the last two weeks, we have proactively reached out to law enforcement in multiple jurisdictions highlighting what we believe are potential criminal acts and imminent threats to human life that were posted to the site.

> Legal process
> While law enforcement in these areas are working to investigate what we and others reported, unfortunately the process is moving more slowly than the escalating risk
I was trained in EE, and I’ve been surprised at how many times I’ve reached for Karnaugh Maps while coding. It’s really helped simplify some gnarly conditions I’ve come across.

Each time I’ve forgotten how to construct them and use them from scratch, but a five minute skim of some grad student’s PowerPoint was all I needed to get right back into it.
They are, the actual cloudflare free tier (not the one they give to various "social good" sites, that's way better) is not actually that great when it comes to a "well executed" DDOS attack. I don't know the exact details, and I guess it's possible it changed in the last couple years, but it's what I've heard.
So I was a senior dev day 1 some 20+ years ago :D
Nope. All CGA cards supported a composite 16-color mode with reduced horizontal resolution. You're thinking of the PCJr and Tandy specific modes which support higher resolutions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_Graphics_Adapter#With_a_...
Humanity (aka Technically advanced humanity) will be lucky to survive passed 2035.

The human species is failing. Assuming we do susvive, the population in 2050 will be *MUCH* smaller than the current one.

China will half in number, Russia will not exist nor Japan, Spain or Italy.

Africa will be the centre of the world.
>How is this censorship? They are a company and can do business with whoever they please.

Just because a private company does it, doesn't mean it isn't censorship. Of course, you may argue that it's in a good cause, but nonetheless, it's still censorship.

I feel XKCD 1357 has greatly contributed to the degradation of the discourse on this topic. The concept of free speech is not synonymous with the legal protections provided by American law.
It is well worth any Tesla driver's time to spend two minutes reading the list of voice commands. Once you have a grip on the vocabulary and structure you can just tell the car to do what you want for dozens of common tasks. (Hint: It's a "seat warmer", not a "butt heater".)

That's the good news, the bad news is that I still haven't figure out how to turn off the stupid cowbell when I accidentally bonk the right lever too many times. If I die in a car accident, 50-50 chance it will be because I was trying to stop the stupid cow bell. I wonder how often they run a query on post accident telemetry to see if the cowbell was on.
So what if they aren’t hosting the backend? How do you even define “the backend”? Is it the PHP frontend code serving the site? Or the database server?

Cloudflare definitely was hosting the content through their CDN. That’s hosting, there’s really no reasonable debate to be had about this.
Legally: every court case on Common Carriers.
>Cloudflare is choosing between "platforming the bad guys" and "censoring free speech".

Unless they provide hosting services, this seems a little distorted. Cloudflare is a DDoS protection service, not a platform. For nearly as long as there have been laws, there has been a general understanding that even the worst of us are entitled to the protection of the laws. Even Bill Cosby was entitled to his Fifth Amendment rights when he was given immunity for his infamous testimony. I don't see why Cloudflare's role should be seen differently; they have become the online anti-DDoS police, in the face of an Internet woefully under-equipped to manage such attacks.

Only in the case of the Daily Stormer, who deliberately turned Cloudflare's neutral role against them by saying "Cloudflare supports us", does there seem to be an exception, because they can't pretend to be truly bound by the law. But calling this "platforming" is basically playing into the hands of people running DDoS attacks.

Kiwifarms's hosts platform them. Cloudflare protected them. The difference is important. I don't know what happened exactly, so I can't comment on it, but I'm interested to find out what happened over the last two days.
Looks like CloudFlare decided it was a PR matter, and decided they'd rather not do business with them. Oh well!
> The government, in the united states at least, cannot restrict freedom of speech.

But USGOV doesn't run Cloudflare. They are perfectly able to pick and choose their own customers without any reference to 1A.

> if a website is hosting content that is illegal

No-one is obliged to service them.
Yeah but there is not a digital version, issued by the BoE. It's not a digital native so has all these layers on top.

I think a clean simple version is appealing - it's kind of the case for Bitcoin as a whole. Unfortunately they people attracted to that case did not realise that 75%+ of regulation and layers is trying to protect people from sharks.
> Private companies should not be the de facto moderators of free speech in our society. They are forced into that position by woefully inadequate governance by legal authorities operating multiple decades behind the current landscape.
That's not what happened here. They made an appropriate decision.

It's not a difficult to say, "while we have no policies that restrict lawful content, we reserve the right to not service those who host and promulgate content that explicitly creates emergency threats to human life."

People and their companies aren't computers who have to allow everything to meet some absurd MVP product definition of false fairness.
FoxPro was a competitor of dBase, not built on top of it. It was at least mostly source code compatible with dBase III programs though, IIRC.

For its day, it actually could produce some of the better looking DOS-based database apps if you actually wrote them as native FoxPro applications and didn't just migrate some old FoxBase or dBase code to it. Microsoft (who purchased the company and its products) deliberately hobbled, and then killed, FoxPro as a product since it didn't fit into their product strategy. I recall reading an interview where it was stated that MSFT believed FoxPro provided too much value vs the licenses (mainly Access or SQL Server) they were trying to sell instead which was part of why they wanted it to disappear.
Well, for the most part, these are people flying into Tel Aviv, Israel.

...but to answer your more general question: Since the most recent Arab invasion of Israel, Israel controls all border crossings into the Palestinian territories - even though the Palestinian territories are self-governed.

If Gaza and/or the West Bank were to sign a peace deal with Israel, then this would end.

So I suppose the question is - Why aren't Gaza and the West Bank signing a peace agreement?

The real answer is different for both of those entities. For Gaza, it's simple. Gaza is entirely run by Hamas, an Iranian funded terrorist group. And Iran has explicitly instructed them to never sign a peace deal with Israel. There aren't even any settlements in Gaza - nor Israeli military there. Moreover, the border is well established.

The West Bank is far more complicated given settlements, division of Jerusalem, and water rights - but a deal was very nearly achieved in the last negotiations (all points were settled) but Arafat walked away from deal because he didn't want Israel to hold any portion of Jerusalem at all - even the portions inhabited entirely by Jews.
> What caused this? Why are Kiwifarm users so hateful? One does not just hate out of the blue, especially not to the degree of the actions they've taken (judging from their Wikipedia article).

A lack of moderation to remove hate. Hate breeds hate, and drives good people away. In a similar way that bullshit breeds more bullshit unless removed.

Let me try an analogy for technical people.

Say you're a person deeply knowledgeable about computers and technology, and you're posting in an audio related forum.

Somebody posts a glowing review of an expensive device that claims that shaving the edge of a CD and painting the border with a marker will give you a bigger soundstage, more clarity and make the audio sound crisper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-QxLAxwxkM

You can try to explain why it's bullshit, but it's hard. You have to go into details about how a CD actually works, why this BS about reflections has no effect on a CD mechanism, how error correction works... you'll have to write several pages of deeply technical information that you have to boil down to something understandable to mere humans. It's a tough job. Not only you need technical understanding, but you also need to be good with words, and good at explaining complex concepts simply. And you have to have the time and dedication to spend an hour or two writing about it for free. That's a lot of unusual characteristics for a single person to have.

Then somebody goes "shut up nerd, it sounds better!" in response. And they proceed to post more reviews of volume knobs that somehow improve the sound because the wood is special, gold plated optical cables, and other such junk.

It takes a whole lot more effort to provide good information on a complex matter, and virtually none to spout bullshit. So eventually the smart people will get fed up and leave. Especially because they can find places where they're appreciated -- they'll find a home on a more specialized home where their expertise is actually valued. Meanwhile the original forum will get even more BS.

Same happens with social topics. It's easy to spread conspiracy theories and hate. It's hard to explain complex social issues. Without moderation the first will trivially overwhelm the second.
Did I say that? No. I said I was surprised to learn the other half of this story, and that the behavior of the specific people behind the campaign to have them removed is horrifying.
The specific thing that is illegal is "incitement to imminent lawless action", which is distinguished from advocacy for violent principles.
It varies widely from State to State, and it is never more evident as when you cross a State border on one of the Interstate highways. The sudden change in road quality can be dramatic. There is also little correlation between road quality and the amount of money spent per kilometer on literally the same stretch of border-crossing highway -- the poor quality side of the border may be spending several times what is being spent on the good quality. Some States have very nice highways that are built and maintained at modest cost.

The high variance in road quality and cost is a very visible example of how varied the effectiveness and efficiency of individual State governments can be in the US.
Thank you for the suggestion, I’ll check it out!
> Reality is European workers are under-paid, not US workers over-paid.

My point was that European workers are paid in proportion to how they are valued by their employer. If they wrote transformational software their employer wouldn't understand its value and it would either just be shipped without a lot of thought, or ignored. Come to think of it this may be why so much great open source software comes out of Europe.

If European companies threatened by the digital transition realized their looming doom and actually decided to do something about it, the salaries would rise as a consequence.
Exactly. Developing software should happen mostly in your brain. Typing and debugging happen in front of a screen.

Carpenters have the rule “measure twice, cut once.” The equivalent for programmers: know what you will write before touching the keyboard. If the majority of your programming time happens on a keyboard and screen examine why that happens.
"leave the car with all smart keys, go at least 50 meters from the car, wait for 15 minutes"

Some engineer actually coded for this - LOL.
I don't. I'm going on what I think about Matthew Prince, who wrote the post we're talking about.
i think this is the sort of thing that exposes a general failure of capitalism.

the underlying assumption of capitalism is that competition works, and one company doesn't have the power to do something like censor a website, because competition will solve that. instances like this prove that to be wrong. cloudflare (and google, amazon, and most other big companies) get put in this position because regulators insist on pretending our economic system is pure capitalism. but in most cases, the big players are much more of a monopoly than anybody would like to think, and the forces of competition are a farce.

FWIW i think kiwifarms should be censored. but it sucks for cloudflare that they have to be the one to make that decision.
If rapists and terrorists used their water or electrical service as a primary means to rape and terrorize, then those infrastructure services would find themselves feeling justified pressure to develop terms of service prohibiting that conduct, and to cut off the rapists and terrorists who violated those terms.

"Infrastructure" has the luxury of being value-neutral. Cloudflare wishes that were also true of it, frequently and publicly, to no avail.
Thank you for this comment. The only possible negative here is "Kiwifarms itself will most likely find other infrastructure that allows them to come back online." Cloudflare supposedly being "concerned that our action may only fan the flames of this emergency" is disingenuous at best.
Add an email to your profile - might help if this post gets visibility.
Note: noted people would have made a better choice of words (not "notable")
What does idempotency have to do with serverless?

That seems more like a general systems principle.
I've never understood the attitude that there should be zero nuance to free speech. That somehow we can't collectively look at the Christchurch manifesto and say, "that's over the line".

Yes, I believe there are laws that are unjustly applied, but this is a) not a law and b) so obviously different from any sort of edge case. The only people who think kiwifarms should exist are sociopaths.
A lot of crime involves speech: extortion, e.g. You can't extort someone without speech or communication of some sort.
this a big part of that-- the different ides can't even share the same root directory. it'd be 50% solved if they just used `.idename`

I'd like to share run configurations between them, which would remain unsolved by that.
Physics?
And it's a huge strawman to imply I said people just wanted SF gone for aesthetic reasons.

At any rate, if "hate the message" of SF is inappropriate, what would you suggest instead? I, and many other people, strongly disagree with the ideas that most people on SF advocate for. I think that "hate their message" works just fine there.
If energy were a little more expensive you could have jerry can sized packs of sodium acetate or similar. But noone really wants to fill up their boot with jerry cans and burn $3 worth of fuel for $2 worth of low grade heat.

I wonder if there is a better PCM or thermochemical battery that could be worth moving on a not-train somewhere? Something that beats ice but works at not-4-degrees. Lye is okay but still a bit shy.
Nearly all the Arab countries have since signed peace deals with Israel, with Syria and Iran being the only exceptions.

No one is going to invade Israel.

Palestinians should sign the last peace deal. They aren't going to get better terms.
EDIT: CloudFlare CEO has acknowledged this and responded.

https://twitter.com/eastdakota/status/1566160152684011520