skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
As far as I know both the people who doxxed kavanagh and jk Rowling are still happily posting on twitter.

Oh and the journalist who threatened those schoolboys with violence.

Of course those aren’t real threats of violence apparently. Only the right threatens actual violence. The left only does rhetoric. /s
Something I've seen many experienced programmers say is that one of the most important part of the job is to be able to quickly and accurately get requirements and feedback from the customer. Maybe studying interviewing techniques would be a good idea?
It absolutely is. It would and should get you banned from HN. In particular, people phoning in bomb threats and fake calls to the police is harrasment.
If you think this was a win then you don’t know much about this kind of content. I bet you think the banning of r/The_Donald and parler were great too. Mission accomplished right? You haven’t put out those fires, you’ve just scattered the embers and now there are hundreds of little fires cropping up all over. Some of them are starting to get quite big so they’ll probably start popping up in your Twitter feed soon but this time they’re unreachable. It’s just creating more hyper divisiveness, you’ve made your little space nice and blue but in doing so you’ve made other places pure red and a house divided cannot stand.
Just remember everyone, the precedence this sets.. All you have to do to get a site taken down is create an account and make a ridiculous threat, even if the post is taken down in less than 30 minutes and the user banned, the site is still guilty.

And never forget that keffals has gone on record saying that their enemies (KF) is irredeemably evil because of the mean things they say, and thus no tactic against them is going "too far" (something that could be easily taken as a threat in itself I might add) And then suddenly threats and swattings start happening where the perpetrator literally goes out of their way to put blame on KF.

Also a reminder that this all suddenly happened just as things were calming down. (and the hate campaign to shut down the site beginning to run out of gas)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X7bbxOUExU
Regardless of your feelings on KiwiFarms, this is a topical article with some prescient quotes regarding their choice of relying on Cloudflare:

"Matthew Prince, the CEO of Cloudflare, is an outlier in the elite of Silicon Valley. He is the one person whose default position on censorship is "no". Cloudflare has removed two websites explicitly aligned with neo-Nazism, but ordinarily, they refuse to buckle to the mob. Why? I don't know. Maybe he's just libertarian. Maybe he wants the Internet to be free, like it used to be. Maybe he's a government informant (there's a popular conspiracy theory that Cloudflare is a large man-in-the-middle spyware operation). Even if he is, I don't care. My website is legal and there's nothing on it that's not public anyways.

Prince is just one man, however, and I have no doubt that when he retires he will be replaced by less of a man. Some political activists who endeavor to censor the Internet are simply waiting for the day he's gone. There are other DDoS mitigation services, but they're much smaller, often not as capable, and not in as strong a position to say "no". When he is out of power, it will cause a vacuum that will negatively impact the health of the Internet, and he will not be readily replaced by anything."
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Forgive me, but it's technically libel. Slander is spoken, libel is written.
Why do they need cloudflare? That is the problem.

We (the US) need a build global infrastructure which will provide basic security and DoS protection for any website hosted in US: 100% free and public. Website might choose not use it.

Sure it will be run by government but the internet is run by the government anyway.

I think that will solve problems like this.
I agree the non programmer use of Talon is still unpolished. That was an intentional prioritization as I work to solidify the underlying tech. Note that your best option for documentation right now is the Slack, where I am very active.

I have a clear vision for easier customization and adaptation in the long term.

Maybe check back every now and then, it's a labor of love and I plan to continue improving it for a long time.
I get the feeling there comes a point where 'do better than them' turns into do exactly like them. I really wish people had gone with 'live and let live', but since that didn't happen the inevitable pendulum swing will.
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EdX or just lectures? Do you do the assignments?
Just because there is a huge difference doesn’t make using slurs innocent or harmless.

If a site is host to the culture that is normalizing genuine hate (and that does seem to be the case!) I say CF should absolutely drop them.
I wouldn’t say ironic. Japanese automakers like Toyota were accused of being caught off guard by electric cars but the truth is that these companies have been developing hydrogen drivetrain and vehicle technology for a long, long time. Those that wonder why Toyota introduced the Prius and seemingly stopped short of an electric car after that haven’t been paying attention to what Toyota’s vision for transportation looks like.
More specifically, tax inheritances. Dynasties are detrimental.
Bomb threats, real world harassment and fake calls to the police are strictly banned on Kiwi Farms. Making fun of transsexuals is not. Nor is the latter illegal, as much as some in this case and in this comment section wish it were.
I don’t think that was ever a supported view. When I was in high school decades ago the view, even then, was that it came from somewhere in Asia, probably China.

They knew with a high degree of certainty the plague spread along the Silk Road carried by blood feeding parasites on rats. They had timelines of outbreaks well documented, but they didn’t know where it first infected humans.
"Making fun of transsexuals" is a rather euphemistic way to portray 2,000 page threads dedicated to harassing and bullying single individuals primarily about their gender identity.
Or they are like an insurance provider that doesn't consider the risk of a particular client. That is good for growth but not ideal in the long term.
What owners and what greed do you refer to?
The kiwi response states emphatically that they were deleted
I don’t think CF ever said they had a legal obligation and I don’t think they ever wanted to be perceived as if they do so I don’t think the reminder in your comment changes any stances. The fact of the matter is that people are mad because CF is protecting a site against digital vigilante justice instead of finding a better means to approach taking down KF.

As a company CF could deny service to KF but then it would be giving power to the vocal dissidents who could seemingly quiet any site they find disagreeable.
Now that the community is being used to target US politicians, I'm surprised the government hasn't stepped in.
I started writing FORTRAN in University in 1965, and Assembler at my first job in 1970. I have had a blast by successfully avoiding management for as long as possible. Still programming C++ and C#, with a bit of Python (I'm not a fan of dynamic typing).
The suits are based on videos uploaded before the purge and the introduction of the verification requirement. Incidentally this took place few days after a major article was published on NYT (in Dec 2020) although they're multiple reports by the people shown on those videos over years.
The "too many characters" thing is used to justify a huge amount of myths about asian printing technology. For example, people love to say that there were no Chinese typewriters because the alphabet is too complex and this is just straight up false. Tom Mullaney at Stanford has good writing on a lot of this.
A maturing society is hard, as those exploiting the immature really want to maintain their profits, while all the wannabe yes-people around them support their systematic abuse in the hopes they'll be in the driver seat 'soon'.
At the end of the article the author, Douglas Rushkoff, realises they didn't ask him specifically for legit advice but rather performed a philosophical and critical evaluation of their justifications for their (selfish) future safety plans. Douglas is a pretty successful media theorist - he coined the terms viral media, digital native, and social currency.
I have a theory they probably all asked "great thinkers" [0] for their opinion.

[0] It wouldn't surprised me if they used some thought leader analysis, because Rushkoff is pretty high on that list. https://arxiv.org/abs/1308.1160
I've had people post phony bomb threats on my services in the past in an attempt to make my life more difficult. Do you think that I shouldn't be allowed to host services because I'm targeted by bad actors?

Maybe we should shut down Twitter, Facebook, Gmail, Yahoo Mail et al. because they allow pseudonymous entities to say whatever they want until moderation addresses problematic posting (as Kiwifarms did with the bomb threat -- they deleted the post and banned the account of the user who made it).

Not trying to defend Kiwifarms here but looking at this an abstracted issue. The real reason why KF was kicked off of Cloudflare is because a lot of people told Cloudflare to stop hosting it, not simply because a bad actor made a malicious post.
As far as i remember it was not free and the amount of programs was limited. It was also not POSIX compatible which also limited what you could run on it.
We’ve been working on hydrogen cars for a long time. George Bush funded them, for example, in 2003:

https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/ceq/hydrogen_090...

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/01/george-...
Really? Which parts are those? Almost every service I enjoy is pretty effectively moderated, usually organically by the community. This is a consequence of service-level decisions. Things like ease of account creation, reputation, voting, some exogenous moderation, discovery dynamics, etc. are all levers a service has available.

Which best parts are you referring to?

One trap people fall into is thinking an edgy post here or there is a sign of no moderation. Seems more likely to me, given what moderation-free boards end up looking like, a few edgy posts here and there are a sign of extremely effective moderation.
Foundation is one of my favorite books and I’m sad at how far off script they’ve already gone in the show. It seems to be missing the whole point.
From the same author, "NNCP is to UUCP what ssh is to telnet; NNCP is an Encrypted, authenticated, onion-routed version of UUCP!"

=> https://www.complete.org/nncp/
The issues with f*ng console commands is that they fail, too often.

After installing CUDA 11.7 and reinstalling torch I'm still facing:

> AssertionError: Torch not compiled with CUDA enabled
It's the same story: no matter if it's phone, TV, car, home, washing machine - it comes to product vs product. The core functionality is the most important, but all things around also matter. TVs are quite similar, so competition moved to the smart functions, phones become smartphones, etc.
>Come on. Shouting “fire!” In a crowded room is not free speech and no company in their right mind should support that

Actually, shouting "fire!" in a crowded theater IS explicitly free speech in America, and in fact, the idea that it's not is a layman's mistake (or a wives tale if you prefer) that is corrected in basically freshman legal classes.

In modern legal discussion, the idea of "fire in a theater!" is basically an immediate identifier that you are not educated in this part of the law at all and your opinion is low quality.

Not trying to insult you here, I too have used this very analogy on the internet in the past, just laying out what exactly others see when they see what you wrote.
Because it's not permitted by the HN guidelines and rules.

But free speech means being able to insult and make fun of anyone, where it's accepted, of course. (I'm only talking about speech here, I'm not talking about bomb threats or any intolerant "action". These should have immediate and extreme consequences. )

I am against racism or making fun of someone's gender, but I completely support their right to free speech. Those for whom free speech is conditional, including many "progressive thinkers", I would rather not associate with.
> This website is accountable for the deaths of at least three people. They should have been de-platformed sooner.

Oh, did the Twitter Jury return with a verdict already? I didn’t see Judge Musk tweet that the case had completed.

Imagine if private companies started acting like this. You’d suddenly find your power shut off because they read one of your tweets and decided that you’d committed a hate crime for complaining about the rising energy prices…

There is nothing even remotely related to criminal charges or the legal system involved in this case. The CEO of one company decided to censor a forum because he felt like it, without any due process, without even notifying the site.
Well I happen to think they should be off the internet, so you're preaching to the choir. But supposing I wasn't someone who thought that, what you're saying is disanalogous, given the ratio of healthy use cases to unhealthy ones is drastically different, and given that these larger platforms actually ban (albeit imperfectly enforced) a lot of the suicide-causing behavior that Kiwifarms allows.
You'll be reliably tackled and body-searched walking around the data center floor with a usb drive in your pocket.
The merchant is not allowed to store the CVV in its database. Need it every time.
> perhaps it wasn't the money or the articles

Lol yeah, "perhaps" it wasn't. "Perhaps" proponents just spent that $200 million on the campaign for no reason.
The primary goal is to increase the left's institutional power.

They know that KF will still exist and will move on from Cloudflare. The point isn't to hurt KF, but to hurt Cloudflare for daring to nominally support free speech. That's why they're botting hashtags, putting pressure on the stock price, and encouraging tech decision-makers to move their startups away from Cloudflare. The point is to say: if you do not pander to us, we will come for you.

It's an effective way to cement power over institutions from the bottom-up, without actually controlling those institutions.

It's a similar kind of social movement to the film censorship movement in early 20th century America, which was largely grassroots and yet ended up controlling the US's entire cultural output for most of a century.
> in the call he claimed to be from KF and said his username

Assuming this is how it happened – you'll have to excuse me for not trusting MTG on her word considering she has demonstrated to have only a passing familiarity with reality in the past – it strikes me as a ridiculous thing to do by an actual KF member, and certainly isn't the kind of action from someone with the best interest of the site in mind.

I read up on the spat that lead to CF's ban a bit, and Keffals claimed to be responsible for the site's owners mom to lose her job, in spite of not being involved in her son's activities at all. Seems pretty mean-spirited, to say the least, and among other things evidence of a "the goal justify the means"-kind of mentality that I'm not a huge fan of.

No one is looking good here; KiwiFarms doesn't have a good look, but this Keffals person also doesn't come off well. She seems like an unpleasant person and while she is right to complain about KF IMHO, that doesn't mean she's the "the good guy" (or gal) in this story, or that everything she says can be trusted at face value.
"SWATing" is not just harassment, I think it should qualify as attempted murder. I think there should be mandatory prison sentences for SWATing, and I think juveniles should be put through some kind of juvenile-prison if they do it.
> You only need 62 glyphs for a basic Latin alphabet (although gutenberg’s german would require a few more),

Gutenberg's bible used ligatures and various symbols too, that ups the count a lot. I haven't counted them myself, but wikipedia says 290 characters and cites John Man's book about Gutenberg. A paper I found about using ML to do cluster analysis on the glyphs says 299 unique glyphs and cites Gottfried Zedler. I can't read either of those sources, but a bit less than 300 seems like a safe bet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutenberg_Bible#Type

https://deepai.org/publication/classifying-the-typefaces-of-...
If you read the Cloudflare announcement, they stress that this is not general policy and to not see this decision as precedent.
The whole "Refer header and IP intact" thing seems a bit too "boogeyman" to me. You are one of hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of IPs that are visiting this site. I feel like the audience here generally understands what kind of info an IP address gives up (like broad geo info) and that it can't really be attributed to an identity -- I guess unless you're NSA? or the ISP? Do you think the site operator is monitoring all the IPs visiting the site and picking "targets"?

I still support an archive link for availability reasons; I just wouldn't worry about being attacked or something just because you visited the site.
I think you’re making a stronger case for your opponents point than you think.
As an aside, I'd say shows like "The Walking Dead" do preppers a disservice in that its not realistic. I don't mean the zombies - obviously those aren't realistic - but its unrealistic how the actors stay healthy & beautiful while living in such desperate conditions, without sanitation or routine health care.

(OTOH the world that awaits them on recovery will be a paradise! Why? Because zombies represent infinite clean energy. Just put a bunch of zombies on a big mouse run with some bait to motivate them to walk, and boom they can turn a crank indefinitely without any other input, like food.)
It’s co-ordinated bullying and harassment of a minority group to deny them the same rights to free expression that those doing the bullying enjoy. Free speech without consequences doesn’t work. See also gamergate.
I understand that many things in life are cultural and relative. Saying one language is "easier" may reveal many biases.

But "simpler" can be used in fairly objective ways. Spoon is a simpler mechanism than internal combustion engine. "Yes" is a simpler way of saying "absolutely I would be willing to undertake that endeavour". Square of plain colour is simpler than a painting. Some formula are simpler than others.

In this case the Immediate difference in sheer count makes it difficult for me to understand what point you're trying to make about this particular example, try as I might, because in this case I aftually think "more systematic" is the less defined, more ambiguous term :-(
> Treating voters like sheep that vote on whatever is being advertised is naive and dangerous.

If this wasn’t true then why do modern presidential races spend hundreds of millions on advertising?
The author chides the rich preppers for their cynicism, then spews lines like:

"Never before have our society’s most powerful players assumed that the primary impact of their own conquests would be to render the world itself unliveable for everyone else"

I can't help but roll my eyes. This is a very marxist take on how wealth is generated and I can't take this author at all seriously. I shouldn't have to say this, but the current state of affairs is not primarily due to rich people and is far more complicated. They display a third-grade level of it economics and are even more cynical than the people he chides.

They also use the "all men" dog whistle at the start of the article. The fact that the group is all male has no bearing on the rest of the story and I suspect was inserted to create a link between this type of behavior and men. When will this type of "journalism" die out? It has become tiresome and a primary reason I don't support rags like the guardian.
> for Talon it's more of an eye tracking+head pointing+voice clicking mouse

> If you have tmj/vocal cords/neck problems you won't be able to use eye tracker as a mouse replacement.

I disagree with these assertions. There are several options in Talon for eye tracking. Optikey is a nice suite of functionality, but it's Windows-only, while Talon is cross platform. I also have a few users who use the Optikey UI but prefer to use Talon's eye tracking to control it. I've certainly recommended Optikey to users.

The updated direct control mouse mode in Talon 0.3 can be used without any head tracking at all as long as your targets aren't too small.

The zoom mode explicitly uses no head tracking as well.

To click or trigger the zoom mouse, you can make a pop noise, use voice commands, or a physical mouse button, or keyboard, or any keyboard emulating input device (such as a foot pedal), or use one of the dwell options.
> everyone hardly even blinks

The story is on the front page of Hacker News and also getting spread on Twitter.
>making false accusations that he was a rapist

This is a lie. What happened is Destiny had a tirade about how to him stealthing isn’t rape, and Keffals pointed it out. Then KF went wild, as seen above.
Open-mindedness
More information on NNCP (including what those four letters mean) here:

http://www.nncpgo.org/
It's not only the ecosystem. It's a very opinionated language at the core. Problems that are traditionally solved with procedural approaches don't lend themselves to be solved in Haskell, in general.
Yes, but the point is that people are faking that paperwork. So what do you do then as a platform? Do you need to do anything? Is the platform even responsible for this? And if so, to what degree?
Two days ago when CloudFlare still publically supported them, a lot of the posters who usually comment on censorship stories with "it's a private company, it's their choice" were not so happy about this private company's choice.

Makes you think.
Don't forget about near/byuu. Killed themselves after DM'ing Josh Moon and warning that their KF thread was bringing them to suicide.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/near-byuu-suicide
Yep this is the winning strategy. Actual historians rather than random software engineers dabbling in history writing essays with minimal citation. I find it baffling how little the software community seems to care for the expertise of historians. There are so many books written by professionals who have spent thousands and thousands of hours on these topics that are available for access.
I actually think it has a lot to do with the runtime and perhaps a little with compilation time.

Compared to the JVM languages I would choose Haskell any time (if given the choice), but for most native tasks the "burden" of Haskell's type system and mediocre performance makes it hard to pass the "value return" threshold compared to Go, Nim, Rust or even C++.

I'm sure that Haskell's performance is plenty for most applications, and the low level/unpure escape hatches are there, but they also raise the complexity significantly from that I have seen.

To me Haskell still has an aura of language research.

This may be a prejudice assumption, I have not done anything more than toys with it.
What is the possibility of someone wanting to have the site taken down posting these threats? The post was apparently deleted by mods within 14 minutes.