skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I feel like you've interpreted my comment mainly by the diving into the ethical content of the specific example I was using.

The point of my example, if I was unclear, was that ethical questions very demonstrably arise from scientific discovery, and demonstrably arise from the availability of technology. This point should be considered pretty hard to dispute. That being the case, when we see scientists getting together among themselves to try to better establish what responsibilities they have or do not have, that's broadly a good thing.

Could such a policy be misused in a bad way? Sure, absolutely, do doubt it could. But to me it seems historically illiterate that so many readers here immediately picture that "scientists decide they should have an ethics policy" could be used in harmful ways but these same readers struggle to picture that scientific discoveries themselves or technologies relating to these could also be used in harmful ways, and if so, whether that places ethical obligations on anybody at any point.

Perhaps, too, it ought to be considered that "scientists shouldn't decide to develop an ethics policy" is also a position itself, one that could also pretty obviously be used in harmful ways as well.
I very much disagree with JBlow because I came from games, I had similar opinions, and then I worked on "real software" (Chrome) and I had my thinking corrected. The problems JBlow and similar game devs are solving are not the same problems being solved elsewhere if you they really tried to solve the *same* problems I strongly believe they'd change their minds.

IIRC one example he once brought up was a text editor written with a small amount of code. Yea sure, I also had a word process that fit in 16k (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AtariWriter) but we're not on ASCII based computers with only text mode. Just a full unicode font takes 10s of megs of space. We're asking our software to draw fonts in any size, in several styles, in any language, and with emoji. That alone would break most of his assumptions because you can't just put them all in memory as pre-rendered glyphs, your user's don't have enough memory. Yet in games, most game devs would just basically say "F-that, you only get ASCII" or "F that, we're only supporting EFIGS + Katanana" and we only need 1 style.

Two good articles on the issues of text that games never deal with

https://gankra.github.io/blah/text-hates-you/

https://lord.io/text-editing-hates-you-too/

The point being, it's the same all the way down in all areas. Game networking is not nearly as complicated as say the networking in a browser, that has to be able to run N video streams + M audio streams + X WebRTC video chats + Y Websockets, and video capture + audio capture and sending that data over the net, etc vs some game which if it ever plays video (many don't) only ever plays one video at a time, in known sizes and formats, and usually not streamed over the net but read directly from storage, etc...

Or take just displaying images. Most games know up front how many images will be displayed. You might even give your artists a budget, no area of the game can use more than XX megs of image data. A browser can't run with those limits. Go look at imgur.com or scrolldit.com or pinterest. Situations games never deal with.

And on top that there's just getting shit done. If I can write an app in a high-level system and ship on iOS, Android, Windows, Mac, iPadOS, I'm going to. I don't care that it's more bloated than if I hand coded assembly language for each one and neither do my customers. Sure they care if my app is buggy or the UX sucks but that's got nothing to do with whether I squeezed out every last byte and cycle out out of it. HNers like to rant about apps that use some kind of less than native framework but nearly all them are using well made apps that use those frameworks, they're just not aware of it because the people making them did a good job.
In my experience of being the neighborhood computer fix it guy, there's a really good chance that your motherboard is fine and the PSU is all that's dead. PSU's have a lot of protection circuitry in them.
Written by who?
Yeah I do decent with Indian accents as well. And I have more trouble with Chinese accents and many British accents. But I mostly can’t stand the southern English and their inability to pronounce the letter R. It sounds like someone with a speech impediment. As an American I greatly prefer speaking to a Scot or Irishman.

And the closer you get to London the more the English have a French culture. By that I mean an inferiority/superiority complex. They’re always better than everyone else.
One thing I learned from university during my databases course was the use of Database Normalization, also known as Normal Forms.

It blew my mind because, I was already applying it in my daily life without realizing it, but in a different method: I would write things down to help me clear up my thought process; eventually I would organize my notes as bullet points and whatever could be placed under a specific bullet point, it would end up as sub-category, well sub-bullet that is.

Eventually it helped me keep my mind organized, let alone my projects, and meet the deadlines with approximation 95% success; the rest percentage is for unpredictable circumstances that can happen to anyone of course.

So, my advice would be as follows:

* Start small, start simple (KISS principle).
* Have your project's logic written down; personally I prefer on traditional notepad.
* Monolith first; most of the times going full microservices in advance is a premature action.
* Prefer battle - tested libraries than writing your own.
* Ask for advice or feedback if you get stuck.
* Invest time reading others' code; that's how you become better at programming.
* Last but not least, apply the UNIX philosophy (if possible); "Write programs that do one thing and do it well."

I hope my feedback helped somehow ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ...
But wiki article citations == sources.
Does FB contribute to Wikipedia’s funding?
Can they fact check the current news?
Color me skeptical.
Because websites are apps now. The browser is your operating system.
Looking for accurate historical or political information from any single source is going to lead to inaccuracies. Every single one has an interest in promoting a certain view of both historic and current events. Usually math or science facts are wrong on Wikipedia simply due to human error. Unless they somehow have bearing on a historic or current event that is contentious. In that case you are back to being unable trust any single source without corroboration wikipedia or otherwise.
But what's "common good" and a "useful skill" itself is defined by a status game.
Thank you for sharing the information, I will be trying heaptrack.
This article is way too padded with neural neural neural neural gobbledygook. This comment is brought by the sharp feedback loop between my brain, my fingers and the neural neural neural of the article writer yadda yadda
As my stoner friend says, “you just gotta believe, bro”

Believe what tho?
Lots of hybrid sedans, eg Prius, Corolla, Ioniq, Insight Granted I think the only non-hybrid ICE getting 39mpg or better is the Mitsubishi Mirage.
I like to think the reason for non-detection is that an alien civilization already had their AGI moment. The AI proliferated throughout the galaxy, to several galaxies, and ultimately found a way to "break" our classical and limited understanding of physics.

That the reason we're not seeing them is because we're looking for industry and megastructures, waste gasses, EM spectrum activity, etc., but that their needs are well beyond any of these things. That they don't have massive material or energy needs. And that maybe they've already been here, but consider us to be too primitive to acknowledge.

Or that maybe they're actively here now reconstructing our light cone to learn about us (ie. we've already all long since passed, and now we're all just holographic shadows of something that once happened long ago).

Or that maybe it's future us / Earth-AI doing that archeology.

Or a future AI "Space Jesus" is resurrecting our neural connectomes from non-lossy backwards projection of photons.

Or the same thing, except we'll all be put into museums or played with for sport. An outcome somewhat adjacent to Roko's Basilisk.

Of course this is all just mortal fantasy.

Dark forest is my other frequently thought about scenario, but that one scares me.
Pages reminds me of using various desktop publishing apps. FrameMaker, Ventura, InDesign.

I used to be able to eke out accurate page layout in MS Word, but it was always fraught and more difficult. But if you’re not perfectionist about layout precision, MS Word provides the same meta-data encoding function through the application of style (‘this is a heading’, ‘this is a definition’, etc).
This would be covered by the zoo hypotheses[1] I think.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoo_hypothesis
Being Australian?
We're also paying municipal tax dollars for separated bike lanes and street trees and electric busses and all the other little things that reduce air pollution.
To make a world language, you need power and control. A cultural invasion and reasons for the language to be absolutely superior to others.

I don't think Finland has the economic or cultural capacity to make that real. China is the next best bet, but they haven't succeeded in the cultural invasion aspect. Japan with anime and Korea with kpop (the cultural export was funded by the S.Korean gov to start) has made better inroads.
I think consolidation has also lead to this knowledge/experience, at least among younger engineers, being siloed in larger companies rather than spread out among many smaller companies. I started in the industry when the Internet was still relatively new, and at that time most companies I worked with had their own ASN & address space and were running BGP, whereas nowadays most companies just use the cloud.
oh cool, didn't know this, thanks!
Jerks have important information that shouldn't be censored.

The crushing majority of jerks are simply jerks.

Yeah I'm declaring an even simpler truth. That Owen is unlikely

No, that's simply being a jerk.

Isn't this mean?

no

Dang issues a warning first, then shadow bans next, that's how he operates.

It's not 'how he operates' that I've seen.
I would not have voted in the election if I knew about the laptop. True story about something that is true.
I agree (although I use Linux, not macOS). I tried to use nixpkgs in an existing Slackware installation and... it worked but has a bunch of warts, especially GUI applications don't respect my desktop settings
From the article and the cited Meta blog post, the AI is trained on millions of wiki citations. As for what it's attempting to do:

>Automated tools can help identify gibberish or statements that lack citations, but helping human editors determine whether a source actually backs up a claim is a much more complex task — one that requires an AI system’s depth of understanding and analysis.

>we’ve developed the first model capable of automatically scanning hundreds of thousands of citations at once to check whether they truly support the corresponding claims.
No, I'm just guessing that the inflection point of productive scientists being financially displaced by useless academia career optimizers was some time in the last few decades.
I ran an Uber Eats-only toasted sandwich business with my brothers for a month as an experiment - we rented a small room with no shopfront, and while we were popular, realised it was difficult to grow revenue when your only source of orders was via the gatekeeper apps (Uber Eats, etc) that take a high margin, and your at the mercy of their positioning of your shop amongst others.

This makes me think anyone running a cloud kitchen is going to always be under the thumb of the apps/landlord with no way to expand revenue.
I think the only micropayment people are usually willing to make is watching an ad.
If you’re not perfectionist about layout precision, MS Word provides the same meta-data encoding function through the application of style (‘this is a heading’, ‘this is a definition’, etc), as one can get from structured document layout applications like FrameMaker, Ventura, InDesign, Quark.

If the PTO has provided an MS Word Style Template and a document schema (document template), it is dead easy to extract a useful XML encoding for further analysis. There is a lot you can ignore in an MS Word file. Dead easy to write XPaths and XQueries that provide an API for the original DOCX document collection.
I am a little frustrated that there are services I would pay $1 per month for, but the floor for monthly services is usually $10, occasionally $5.
I used this software (the app version) a couple weeks ago for the first time. I grabbed a great clip while playing a game and wanted to show it to a friend, but I didn't want to send the full 500MB 60s video when the clip was only ~6 seconds. I didn't want to spend a ton of time downloading proper editing software so I gave it a shot. It's a little clunky if I'm honest, it feels like an evolution of Windows Movie Maker; it works in a pinch, just don't expect anything professional to come out of it.
Are they still using that hand-wavy "cryptographic proof that a duration of time has passed"?
> Don't you hate when news sites add a "- from XYZ" to your clipboard? That shouldn't be possible. I'm not sure how you'd fix this, but it should be fixed.

There are browser extensions. For example, my own StopTheMadness on macOS and iOS:

https://underpassapp.com/StopTheMadness/

I'm going to work on this navigator.clipboard issue, because I find it unsettling, and I use Chrome quite a bit.
Seconded! Great expression! I want more.
To anyone disappointed by these effectively regular umbrellas, maybe you'll be more interested in the traditional Basque makila. Most of the time it's just a walking stick. But when you're in a pickle it unsheathes into a spear. They're still fairly common among the more traditional types in the country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makila
My opinion? They’ll start marketing and selling it as well.

Just like a hundred years ago people believed putting cocaine into everything was great, we’ll do the same.

These drugs may work for some, but we don’t know the effects at scale. Who knows maybe in a 100 years we will think damn they were really doing that? Meanwhile we’ll all be hitting some new drug that someone found out about from some ancient civilization. Then we will find out why they are ancient.
However, by the middle of the 16th century supplies of wood were beginning to fail in Britain and the use of coal as a domestic fuel rapidly expanded.[10]: 22

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_coal_mining#:~:text...

Similar comments here about the lack of wood driving the use of coal.

https://industrialrevolution.org.uk/coal-mines-industrial-re...

And:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/24953925
I Revived My Mechanical Keyboard
IBM noticed. DEC noticed. There were a few others sounding the alarm from way back.

But, hey, those Intel/AMD chips sure are cheap! And, let's be honest, that's all that anybody cares about.
Fun topic because the question of under what conditions would we as humans would contact another less advanced civilization in space opens up some pretty interesting but simple criteria.

We would need for that civilization to not be a danger to us, not only from a technology angle, but from an ontological perspective. When you look at how insane other creatures in nature are and the biological economics of their survival, we wouldn't adopt them into our own societies, and the ones we do are cats and dogs and other pets. This is how much we can trust another being we can only share a small part of our experience with by keeping them confined or on leashes. We probably don't want rich aliens to breed us in captivity and buy us as pets for their kids to ride. So there's a bar we would need to meet to not become that.

The question I have would be, what would we as a species need to demonstrate to be allowed "off leash," in a community of other spacefaring civilizations? What consistent understanding would each person as a random human need to have to be able to be relied upon to interact safely with a spacefaring being?

What would we equip a civilization with to evolve with those tools before arranging to meet them without destroying the equillibrium of their societies as they compete for our favour and become dependent on us? Reciprocity of respect for life and the ability to apprehend some universal shared truth seems like the only thing that would separate an animal from another conscious being capable of reason.

I would wonder what that prerequisites or criteria for us as humans encountering a new civilization would be.
Exactly this and soft power is the best. Lot of young Western women moving to Korea to find Korean men. Such is the power of pop culture and unfortunately this means the West's anti-asian posture in films and exclusion of asians in pop American culture is clearly out in the open. We are heavily influenced by media.

nobody is learning Finnish before Korean or Japanese.
New tab page google doodle
So if the Protestant revolution never happened and the Catholic Church still had political control over much of the world, you still think the scientific revolution would have happened? I have my doubts.
Many of the comments in this thread seem to not have anything to do with the content of the article, or the researchers' blog post cited within the article. There also seem to be some mistaken assumptions about the purpose of this AI.

Here is what the model is actually (attempting) to do:

>It calls attention to questionable citations, allowing human editors to evaluate the cases most likely to be flawed without having to sift through thousands of properly cited statements. If a citation seems irrelevant, our model will suggest a more applicable source, even pointing to the specific passage that supports the claim. Eventually, our goal is to build a platform to help Wikipedia editors systematically spot citation issues and quickly fix the citation or correct the content of the corresponding article at scale.
I SO want to do that!
They need to be frozen under vacuum. Otherwise the moisture in the air will damage the books as they're frozen. Not standard equipment libraries have at their disposal.

Most libraries just isolate donations and if there's any insect activity they're discarded. Only special, valuable books would be sent out to specialized companies that do the freeze drying process.
I want to know what happens when they read text describing food.
No rubber.
Lol. Like many people, I too have $99/month service. I typed my name into the evil waitlist. I subsequently received a satellite dish that gave me space internet. For less than my cable subscription. For internet from space.

Haters gonna.
Most of my life I have been told: "do not rely on Wikipedia, it is inaccurate". And I get it, it's true if you're going through academia...

But. Compare to the rest of the internet. Compare to every single propaganda website. Text on Wikipedia has one of the highest chances of being true by default. If a random website contradicts Wikipedia one shouldn't trust that website.

I'm sick of people comparing Wikipedia to peer reviewed journals... When instead people get their knowledge from tabloids, random newspapers, individuals getting mad in youtube videos, and websites like Facebook.

If Facebook claims to know more about the world than Wikipedia, it should factcheck itself.
I think Korean is being learned at far greater pace, zoomers think Korea is cool and want to live that ideal kpop world. No need to learn kanji which means its a lot more approacheable.

I would say hebrew is also another interesting alphabet system
Google drive/Onedrive?
> Kanji are fun to learn,

huge nuance here. it is not fun memorizing hyroglyphics
Firefox does this via the setting:

dom.event.clipboardevents.enabled
And yet most people I know don't get microdecision fatigue every time they decide whether to turn on a light or use an appliance due to the electricity transactions.

I claim that--to the extent to which this was ever an issue--this is due to the notion of "micropayment" really being too large still: the industry has often used this term to describe transactions on the order $1-$10.

Instead, this discussion is about hosting fees for a chat app that will add up to almost nothing for light usage, not the $1 per article news companies keep wanting to charge. My company (Orchid) has been calling these fees for incremental hosting costs--which are on the order of $0.001-$0.10--"nanopayments".
That's exactly what I was getting at!
yeah but it sounds so horrible
Its a general purpose encyclopedia. Why would anyone expect it to be competing with a masters student level of knowledge?
I agree with the idea, at the same time I'm sure there's some income vs expense graph that shows expenses raising faster than income and at some point surpassing it.

I wonder when it will hit github. At the moment they offer free hosting for open source projects, including github actions. It seems pretty clear at some point they'll have to back off in some form or another. Maybe the "open source" part is enough of a filter?
Guys. This article is a joke.
There's something /off/ about discourse that I can't put my finger on.

In the past (10-15 years ago) I remember using game forums (e.g., tribal wars, cs2d) and it didn't feel awful to use, even though I only had dial-up or 1mbps connection.

Today, some recent communities that I have visited using discourse are manjaro, elixir, purescript, and grim dawn. Across all of these I noticed that the initial time to render feels so slow, then the subsequent fetches using infinite scroll just sucks.

I've also visited some forums recently that do not use discourse, like the arch forum and some maplestory private server, and I don't feel the awfulness that discourse invokes.
MPX? Mpox? The struggle to replace ‘monkeypox’ with a name that isn’t racist
Tickets can be $200. People can leave their car and keep getting tickets. They could accumulated thousands of dollars in no time. Adding to that is the huge number of diplomats and other non-citizens who get ticketed and ignore them with impunity.

However I agree a large % is probably not recoverable at all.
What would this phenomenon be called. "The commodification of everything?"
Thank you for your comments and consideration of our time. I think it was Stanislaw Lem that said there is so much poor quality writing out there, reviewers should present the materials they find good in, rather than the bad--I know that's a bit different than what you are saying, but still relevant.

> think for themselves

That always interests me.

[edit]

I just read this paper in detail. Adding to coincidence here, I kept thinking back to Lem's Pirx the Pilot series and The Cyberiad. It makes me want to read more about the Lindbergh family. Also, it touches on another topic I was thinking about tonight, the thread on HN about Finnish as a universal language when Leary writes:

> French philosophy, for example, has recently stressed the importance of language and semiotics in determining human behavior and social structures.

this also extends to computer languages, IMO. Pointy haired bosses and their languages of choice is the modern equivalent of the mutation of the "pilot" to the "steerer" in his Greek to Roman example. I found this paper thought provoking, but like his LSD campaign, misguided in its exuberance of the benefits of the "Cyborg" experience. There are drawbacks. Who's to say the computer as rudder won't become the steerer, among other "bad things"?
Ope. If it’s true Facebook censored info at the behest of the FBI, that’s only going to further fuel a certain group’s belief that the FBI is an arm of the Democrats.
If by "pampered" you mean you don't want to be scammed by some popup kitchen that can easily rename/rebrand itself once it amasses a bunch of negative reviews... then yes, you're "pampered".

Always better to go to a place that has its reputation on the line.