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This is a mistake. Energy is the next/current big challenge, one in need of research (including and especially domestic, for the U.S.). Google retained some of my loyalty by continuing to pursue this, including such research.

Perhaps I'm just taking it personally. Nonetheless, mistake. 1) Google becomes ever more "just a web site company". (Well, and phones that access the web and apps hosted on the web.) 2) Google's starting to throw over its non-web projects the same way it's been discarding its web projects and acquisitions. This pattern may begin to seriously shake others' belief in and commitment to long term investments in their products and technologies, in both areas.

Whatever their future, the blush is off the rose (or however that metaphor's supposed to go), IMO.

Or maybe I'm just pissed that the U.S. cannot manage a coherent "next generation" energy policy, and the last player I had any hope in just got out.

P.S. I guess I should qualify this by saying my opinion is not tne most informed. So, again, this is in the nature of a personal reaction.
I wonder if the same thing will happen to stackoverflow? They have a number of levels of access, reviewing, meta-reviewing, administrators, etc. What level do you get to before becoming a bureaucratic place where everything is designed and decided by comitee?
When Google announced Adwords, it was with fanfare about how above-board their program was, and they were widely praised for it.
> You know how much I wish I could put my little no-name company on Wikipedia? A lot! But I can't and I'm glad I can't. These standards are why Wikipedia is so well respected.

But why? If there's an article about your company in a legitimate publication, I don't see why there shouldn't be a Wikipedia article about it. How would it make Wikipedia a less useful or lower-quality resource? Are you saying it would get in the way of finding information about more "notable" subjects? I don't understand how.

Sure, my attitude would make the disambiguation page for "John Smith" much longer, but I think it would still be reasonable as long as it's well-sorted into categories (as it is now).
Funnily enough Microsoft was pushing down the centralised health route a long time back, but gave up because everyone was worried about them holding centralised information. This was back in the days were passport was trying to be rolled out as a single signon solution.

The more things change, the more they stay the same...
No offense to the "reddit meshnet project", but the last I checked (this could have changed) what they're proposing isn't possible with the team that they have right now.

There are a couple of problems:

1) They don't have a solid hardware platform to work on, and the feeling I've gotten from talking to some of the people on /r/darknetplan is that they really don't have the proper understanding of wireless tech to make something like this happen. People are proposing cheap commodity wifi gear for this.

While it's certainly possible to do a very high density area with that, it's certainly not feasible to cover an area like a city, at least not without a considerable investment, and an understanding that network performance is going to be abysmal. (And at that point, just use ham radio...)

(Something like what they're proposing might work in an office, not so much in a neighborhood).

So is a problem, but hypothetically you could just toss hardware at it until it went away.

2) It's the addressing, stupid. http://www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan/comments/m2nd5/its_the_a...

I am definitely the last person to discourage people from "doing it wrong" (http://thingist.com/t/item/4372/ - http://thingist.com/t/item/19766/ - http://thingist.com/t/item/21434/), but people running this, prepare yourselves for the reality that you could fail.
Last week Apple locked me out of my iTunes account, and I can't even update the apps I already have installed on my iPad.

I'm done with cloud-based content. I'll continue to use dumb storage like Dropbox and S3, and I'm ok with subscription services like Netflix and rdio. But any service that pretends that I "own" content that can be yanked away with the flick of a switch to be restored only after weeks of haggling with an understaffed and indifferent bureaucracy can go fuck itself.

Of course, once again, it's only the people that play by the rules that suffer.
yes, having education might mean you can get the job that pays more but this does take into account the unemployed into the median.
The amount of negativity in this thread is depressing. I think a lot of people either didn't read the article or just skimmed it. For those of you who are citing Peter Norvig's essay, I also thought of the essay when I read this; it's one of my favorites. I've read it several times because it is humbling and inspires me to rise to the challenge of really becoming a great programmer. If Matt reads it he might feel similarly (if he hasn't already).

But do you really think Norvig would suggest that someone at his level is not a programmer? By my count, he's done about half the things on Norvig's list already and could be within a tenth of the fabled 10,000 hours (12 wks * 7 days * 8-16 hrs = just over 1000 hrs).

I agree that the title might have been misleading given how much prior experience he had, but seriously, this is one of those "if you don't have anything nice to say" moments. If he received that many emails from some random comment on HN that means there are a lot of people reading this thread right now who are in the same boat as he was and as the people asking for help are. What kind of community are we (I mean we as programmers and we as HN) if we denigrate Matt's efforts and these kinds of blogposts?

There are going to be more and more programmers in the world as the pace of computing accelerates and people are exposed to gadgets and technologies that excite them enough to peek under the hood. We should be encouraging them and welcoming them and telling them "yes, programming is awesome!"
I don't understand why you are getting down-voted for your comment. This is exactly what happens. I've been in on more than 30 or 40 so AfD discussions. There is usually a deep debate of it.

In the end it's not about votes either. We leave long explanations as our points for or against. We weigh the arguments. It prevents the "+1 me too! I agree!" responses from adding to it so consensus by vote doesn't always matter.
For anyone who has read this book, any thoughts on if this book has aged well? Is there a better book out? Anything more relevant to the current state of the art?
Ah, yes, of course. Sorry. However, still good for them. Doing something different to get exposure and doing something good. Worth learning from I think.
It's been a long time since I participated in Wikipedia's "community", and I agree that the community is dysfunctional, but I think it's going to be comically hard to justify that the largest and most successful reference project on the Internet --- and possibly in the entire world --- is a "side effect".

I sure hope it isn't a side effect, because if it is, we need more communities like Wikipedia's.
So are you saying the module loading is not asynchronous?
Who's with me for providing a version of Wikipedia (there data is open right) that contains all pages that were ever deleted for notability reasons.

I fail to see how whether something is notable makes it more or less a fact that should be categorized.
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If you'd really like to dive deep into GE's filing try taking at look at it as a tagged XML file using XBRL at
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/viewer?action=view&cik=40554&...

You can also download the data as an Excel Spreadsheet - they may obfuscate as much as they want - but if you start leveraging the XBRL tags - you can automate search for that incriminating needle in a haystack...

This is what the SEC auditors are doing these days1
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The author is saying, among other things, that the editors who decided that the person was not notable did not have the domain-specific knowledge needed to enable them to do the research to make that determination.
I think 40% makes sense. Remember that for Apple, the US is a market above all others. For a lot of other players, the US is, at best, just one of many first-class citizens.

Apple is a US company, Samsung/HTC/Nokia/RIM/BLAH aren't. They market very well to US consumers, both their products and their brand. Also, Apple products tend to go on sale in the US first. Even if you cut it by half, the numbers are still embarrassing for everyone else.
re. 3, he was given instructions: don't change this, follow that process instead. Is the process is incorrect, how do you proceed?

re. 3,5 - there's a lot of confusion here, coming from an experienced web user. If he can't figure out what's going on, is it a user problem, or instructions issue?
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Well, there isn't actually any module loading. The define function lets you define new modules with dependencies. The require function returns a reference to a module or throws an exception if it hasn't been loaded.

The idea is that you get to use CommonJS-style module definition in conjunction with old-school script loading using script tags. This could be used during a transition of a large project to something more robust like RequireJS. Or it could be used if your application has to support high-latency connections where you need to minimize the number of HTTP requests.
I have no problem paying with my time. I just wish they would have me pay with my time by listening to stuff I don't despise with a passion normally reserved for Hell and all Montagues.
I'd be curious to know if this resistance to input from "subject matter experts" is the same for, say, notable physicists or notable cardiac surgeons? It wouldn't surprise me at all to find that because the subject matter in question is "SEO" that there are a lot of prejudices and suspicion of ulterior motives from the wikipedia end. In one sense, I'm of the opinion that if you're promoting yourself as "an SEO expert" your contributions to wikipedia should be treated with significant additional scrutiny due to the possibility of conflict of interest.
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That would have been for the original version - which just had links down the right hand side, not the blended ones at the top.
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With a few changes this excellent description of Wikipedia politics and bureaucracy could accurately describe my social life.
Two differences between Facebook and Groupon immediately occur to me. First, despite everything else that's wrong with it, Facebook's business model does not depend on persuading small businesses to sell goods and services at less than their cost. Second, Facebook has generated significant value in the form of non-replicable technology, infrastructure, and connectedness to just about everything else on the net. None of this is true of Groupon. There is nothing hard to copy about Groupon, and "find more suckers" pretty much sums up their business model. These are the differences between a company with staying power and a company without it, so only a fool would expect similar IPO outcomes.
This is disingenuous.
I actually enjoy gruber's posts most of the time, but this article is incredibly stupid, for exactly the reasons he posts about. If you include the iPad numbers, the numbers for all other tablets become meaninglessly small. So if you want to write an article about the number two tablets, the only way to do it is to exclude the ipad. The article isn't about how successful the iPad is, no matter how desperately John wants to be reminded of that.
This is definitely a great update and it's getting close, but for me this still can't replace gitx. I absolutely need something that can show a tree-view version of the repo branches. Even the CLI can do this. The web UI has the network graph view which is ok but not great since it doesn't really show branching.

It's so tempting to use a list-view because it looks nice and simple, is easy to implement and it hides complexity. The problem is that I need a view into that complexity to use git. The git model is a tree (or graph even) and to not display it that way just makes things harder.

I think what gitx has is still the best.
(^-- this is paraphrasing the article, not my opinions)
The Wikipedia definition may be accurate. It's important to note that it does not say "undeveloped markets." You added that in your head.

"Development and research for markets" -- just markets. That means any market.

Startup is a phase, not a type of business. There's no reason not to consider a brand new restaurant a startup. Except possibly that it did its market research before opening its doors, unlike what most people on HN call a "startup."
My biggest problem with the article is that it's essentially a puff piece about how awesome the writer thinks he is, and how special he is for being able to learn the basics in a short amount of time. The post is entirely too hand-wavy about actual details; telling someone to read some blogs, Q&A sites and code doesn't help anyone.

Where is the substance? Were there any interesting ah-ha moments? What would he do differently? What guidelines would he give to someone else in a similar position? How did he find an appropriate mentor? What was he surprised to learn? What can he do now that he couldn't do when he started?

There's so many things he could have documented that would have been helpful. He didn't write any of them. Instead, he made the implementation details seem mystical and gives the opinion that "hard work" (whatever that is) is the only key.
I'm not sure what SOX ("Auditor Protection Act") has to do with preventing pump & dumps...
It's probably because you scare them. Here are people who have spent several years in school to gain a certificate that shows they know how to program. You may never be a competition to them in the job market but the knowledge that someone spent close to 12 weeks (not even a semester) and was able to land a basic job programming is probably rubbing their sense of entitlement the wrong way. Me personally, I have a M.S. in Computer Science but I work with a group of people, who, with sheer will and hard work, are in much better programming situation than I am. Not everybody gets to, or needs to, write a compiler or an operating system. Most of the applications are crud applications. Just because you are not of Linus Torvald's caliber doesn't mean that you are not a programmer.
I made this site awhile back, partly to address some of Wikipedia's conceptual peccadillos (notability, navigability, less than full openness). It didn't get traction, and I found it hard to market a knowledge-sharing site, in part because almost nobody is actively searching for knowledge-sharing solutions.

The core idea was a bidirectionally weighted graph where users could set the weightings using slider controls. I've since moved on to another project. Anyhoo, the site is mobwa.com. Sooner or later I'll get around to taking it down.
Here is another good article about getting your site out there. It includes info about getting it on TechCrunch. The post is from Feb 2011 so it should still be relevant. I was searching for similar information the other day, which is how I found the article in the first place. I submitted my site to TechCrunch two days ago and I'm waiting to hear something.

If you want to go directly to the submission page:
http://techcrunch.com/contact/

For the entire article:
http://viniciusvacanti.com/2011/02/08/how-to-get-your-first-...
>>Everyone should have a wikipedia page

Isn't that what Facebook, MySpace, Google+ is for? Wikipedia is trying to collect all of human knowledge. They are trying to hold themselves to a higher standard than a site like Facebook.
From what I heard in the IRC group when I was hanging out, the group is mostly made up of people who think it's a nice idea but have absolutely no idea what they're doing.

My prediction is this movement fails flat on its face, as the people with the knowhow to develop the new protocols for this network are uninterested in joining a mass of lemmings who are more interested about what the project is going to be called than if it will work.

Here's a fun issue: security and stability in BGP. As we've seen many, many times over BGP is a completely insecure protocol with persistant problems with blackhole and cyclical routes. Many people inside IRC have proposed BGP as the routing mechanism for the mesh network, but have no proposals on how to deal with a completely decentralized network of high latency connections.
I joined this discussion at 32 comments and the all down-voted comments ones were people with the same sentiment. I really don't understand the anti-wikipedia sentiment hackernews is having in general around this.

I've been through the AfD process 30 to 40 times myself. I normally don't see it because I spend most of my time on vandal patrol where I've contributed code and countless hours to that effort over the last 5 years. Most of my deletes are speedy deletes for vandalism and not notability except where it's clear and someone is trying to make wikipedia their personal homepage. It's a massive multi-gigabyte site and it takes a lot work to maintain it. That's why admin's have an icon of a broom.

I've seen this same type blog post all over the place. Someone burt hurt around an AfD. I've seen full campaigns to try and tarnish Wikipedia as having some kind of secret underground conspiracy against another group. It really doesn't work like that. You see that quickly if you get really involved in the site.
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>Even although they make less money than apple by an order of magnitude,

Google reported revenues of ~30B for FY10, Apple reported ~60B. That's only an order of magnitude in binary.
Credit to you for sticking with it for 12 weeks and being successful.

I had been attempting to learn how to program (Ruby) for the past 6 months (from a ZERO programming background) and in the beginning I honestly could not do more than one week learning 'intensively' before I had to take a break to let all the new concepts and information settle in.

Perhaps it's just my style but I've found learning a little bit everyday is more effective in the long run than cramming it into a condensed period of time. It's surprising how you can take a break from a piece of code and have everything come together when you look at it again.

That said, learning how to program in 'X weeks' sounds great and I wish I could have done it!
It's a concept that has been around in various forms for some time but doesn't seem to have gained much traction anywhere. As well as a tip everywhere system I assume your letting publishers after they have claimed their site to push the tips with buttons on their site?

I don't think I would be inclined to ever tip unless I knew that the author has a presence on the tipping service so I knew they were actually going to claim the tips. Wonder to if a reverse model, similar to a kickstarter would work, as in an author proposes a piece of content they will put some time into a produce if they get some upfront commitment of tips.
Uh huh. Interesting argument, but I'm afraid that the Linux kernel is fundamentally not like an encyclopaedia.
I hope this data is normalized and other contributing factors such age are removed. It is better to see a regration model than pure stat graphs.
It's an archived discussion under Articles for Deletion (AfD).

At the top of the page is a bread crumb back to the deletion process. (Someone should probably update the template for the archive notice to have a link maybe for those that stumble on to it).
There's a lot of HTML5 books, yet the standard is a draft, and new drafts to that draft come weekly.

Now, I'm not saying the books aren't useful - they are.

But it's about time to make it a standard and work on HTML5.

It's what _forces_ browsers to all have a very short development model, btw.
I'm not arguing to suddenly put irrelevant info onto WP. The high standard can still be achieved, the level of detail is just higher. Turing might get its own set of pages, while my kindergarten teacher maybe gets a few lines.
Education pays. Or being clever gets you more education, and also pays. Or being willing to work hard does those things. Or coming from a family with more money, or with a particular kind of attitude (curiosity? go-getting? ...), does those things. Or there's a lot of prejudice out there (on the basis of sex, skin colour, or whatever) that affects both how a person's education goes and how their later career does. Or any combination of those. Or any number of other possibilities.

All together, now: Correlation is not the same thing as causation.
I'm fine with this move, but I hope this is as far as they are about to go. I really hope this isn't a precursor to much more aggressive censorship, like removing those sites from the index or giving them a much lower priority in the search results even when you're specifically looking for them.

I know Google is the easy target for RIAA/MPAA and their politician allies lately, but Google really doesn't have to "give in" at all here. At least not until a law like SOPA gets passed. But until the ink is dry on a passed law like that, Google doesn't have to do any concessions.

The only reason I could see them doing this anyway is by trying to appease the content industry when making content deals with them for their own services, but for Google's sake, I hope they won't be going that road, because there won't be any turning back. They will just ask for more and more censorship in future deals. They just need to tell them that's absolutely off the table in negotiations, and not even agree to start the negotiations before they acknowledge that.
That is current averages ie. historical data.

What it says is that somebody who got a medical/law degree 20-30 years ago, did very well over the last 20-30 years.

It says nothing about whether somebody leaving school today will do better in 20-30 years having spent 10x as much as their parents generation on college - rather than becoming a plumber or electrician or founding a startup
Nice generalization! I disagree as well.
At this point, it really is a collection of hobbyists who want to help but can't offer much, however every day we acquire one or two more skilled, dedicated engineers/techs to help. IRC user Tanuki is currently running a meshnet project in Australia with 150 users over 200 KM. He was just offered satellite time for distant sites!
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