skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
>Does anyone else subscribe to the idea that AGI is impossible/unlikely without 'embodied cognition', i.e. we cannot create a human-like 'intelligence'

Seems like you are confusing Consciousness with Intelligence? It's completely plausible that we will create a system with Intelligence that far outstrips ours while being completely un-Conscious.

>I feel like any AGI developed in silico without freedom of movement will be fundamentally incomprehensible to us as embodied humans.

An AGI will be defacto incomprehensible to Humans. Being developed in Silicon will have little bearing on that fact.
Yeah, TPM 2.0 is a real ass. Looks like classic anti-competitive lawsuit to me, has any org pursued this?
I guess that's thanks to the fact that WireGuard is a new system and new systems have little legacy bloat. Maybe the WireGuard author had golden hands, and the system is perfect, and indeed it it is quite good, but I think instead that WireGuard will eventually require a new version. Then one such solution will have to be chosen.
The jury is still out on VR and Meta but it hardly seems promising.
> Like....just pull the plug.

Watch this video https://youtu.be/3TYT1QfdfsM
agreed, Carmack's work ethic, opinions on work and opinions of how those around him work are legendary!
What was wrong about that?
How would you ensure nobody copies it to an USB stick and then puts it on a public torrent, making it multiply to the entire world? AGI facilities would need extremely tight security to avoid this.

The AGI doesn't even need to convince humans to do this, humans would do this anyway.
Offtopic: I really don't understand why there is any cookies involved in this static landing page at all. Seems to be just for tracking purposes. Would be better off choosing a cookie-less solution instead and get rid of the notification fully.
export your $DISPLAY with X11, Citrix stole the idea. not many really do it anymore it seems, and i doubt Wayland does it at all.. works great for me
They Lost Crypto in the Crash. They’re Trying to Get It Back
I agree with your first paragraph. However, I can't agree with your second. Most people who work there are just regular people, they are not "morally derelict" sociopaths. Indeed, the main reason they work there is money and prestige, which is not necessarily a bad thing. Blame the executives who make the decisions, not the workers who implement them.
...because not everyone has cash to buy the largest investment of their life...?

loans/credit are very useful...

profit is great, as long as there's competition, right?
Sure (According to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carmack ):

> During his time at id Software, a medium pepperoni pizza would arrive for Carmack from Domino's Pizza almost every day, carried by the same delivery person for more than 15 years.

C’mon man, Domino’s?!
Apple is likely denying you because they are stealing your idea for iOS 16 and don't want the competition.
https://archive.ph/cazuY
Why aluminum chassis rather than carbon fiber or titanium?
This is not a good deal. The price is not that much cheaper than a 4 year loan (~500 vs 750/mo), you still need a down payment, still pay for power and insurance and parking, and you don't even get equity!

I can't see this being used by anything other than short term rentals and corporations who like stable expenses.
Gotcha. Yeah, it makes sense from their perspective to not use version control if they're journalling everything already. I can imagine the thought is what's the point of the extra process. I don't feel that way personally, but I see the point.
Others have mentioned the Analog Discovery 2, a multi-function usb device. There's a nearly identical product made by Analog Devices called ADALM 2000. The hardware and software spec's are on par, but the price is about half. I managed to snag one off ebay for $50, and it's worked great for me so far.
Or better yet, use packetization PMTUD. 15 years after that was published by the IETF, every device should implement it by default.
> How exactly [has the] modern web ended up in a situation where, first time browser is displaying a single page (with maybe 3 pictures and 2 paragraphs of text), it has to download 300 resources from 12 different servers, including 2 megabytes of minified javascript?

Ads.
I'm 100% serious. I literally don't understand your concern at all.

>>And as soon as it has access to the internet, it can copy itself.

So can viruses, including ones that can "intelligently" modify themselves to avoid detection, and yet this isn't a major problem. How is this any differenent?

>>Good luck pulling the plug of the internet.

I could reach down and pull my ethernet cable out but it would make posting this reply a bit difficult.
The weird thing is I wouldn’t even consider this to be “too simple.” There are far, far more simple apps on the App Store. This is basically just a conference app, which arent usually much more complex than this and are basically just a (usually very ugly) wrapper for a website. At least this is trying to fit in with the visual style of the platform.
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> "has the urge"

it's quite a leap to think or even imagine that the class of systems generally being spoken of here are usefully described as "having urges"
Yeah, we maybe should've launched the internal alpha for HN :/

If you want to play, it's live at https://sinerider.hackclub.dev!
Or just make an app with a bunch of weird filters and shit, and an option in the settings to turn it to a simple app.
Which app is this? I’ve checked the box in sharing for screen sharing and it’s just using vnc. Is there a different one hidden somewhere?
ssh -X

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/566/how-does-ssh-x-...
See also https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbins_v._Lower_Merion_Scho...
Carmack had nothing to do with Doom Eternal.

For that matter, his contributions to the 90s FPSs he's most known for were more on the technical side, not creative. He was known for writing surprisingly performant FPS engines.
When that happens, you will use WireGuard v2 which is incompatible with WireGuard v1.

I wouldn't expect it to happen before a crypto-relevant quantum computer is built.
Worth noting that current models like Google LaMDA appear to already have access to the live Internet. The LaMDA paper says it was trained to request arbitrary URLs from the live Internet to get text snippets to use in its chat contexts. Then you have everyone else, like Adept https://www.adept.ai/post/introducing-adept (Forget anything about how secure 'boxes' will be - will there be boxes at all?)
VNC doesn't send all pixels of every frame. If you look at the RFC for the frame buffer protocol it uses, it concerns itself with areas of the screen.

https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6143.html

I've only seen very good performance using the built-in VNC client/server for macOS. You can try it out by turning on remote sharing and doing this from the terminal:

`open vnc://<host>:5900`
> ...a beer glass that poured out beer when you tipped the phone, and a lightsaber app...

Oh I remember those two. I think they were installed via Cydia[1] no? Or maybe it was right after, when the official AppStore was launched. Silly, but great wow factor in those early days.

[1] for the youngsters here: Cydia was the only way to install apps in your iPhone before the AppStore was created (circa 2008). You had to jailbreak your phone, install Cydia, and then we had a handful of apps that demonstrated iPhone's capabilities.

I remember my first app was some marble labyrinth game, that served as a fantastic demonstration of iPhone's accelerometers. Pretty surreal at the time.

Saurik, Cydia's main developer, is frequently seen around on HN threads.
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While we have the mighty gwern on the line: do you believe we'll have AGI in <= 10 years?
Is there?

If 200,000 calculator apps all fulfill your need, what is the problem? Just use one, and if it doesn't, use another. Use the stock one if you want, or ask some friends what they use.

I agree rating systems are not an effective measure, and can be gamed, however.
People don't really consider the immense risk of "speed superintelligences" as a very quick and relatively easy follow-on step to the development of AGI.

Once developed, one solely needs to turn up the execution rate of an AGI, which would result in superhuman performance on most practical and economically meaningful metrics.

Imagine if for every real day that passed, one experienced 100 days of subjective time. Would that person be able to eclipse most of their peers in terms of intellectual output? Of course they would. In essence, that's what a speed superintelligence would be.

When most people think of AI outperforming humans, they tend to think of "quality superintelligences", AIs that can just "think better" than any human. That's likely to be a harder problem. But we don't even need quality superintelligences to utterly disrupt society as we know it.

We really need to stop arguing about time scales for the arrival of AGI, and start societal planning for its arrival whenever that happens. We likely already have the computational capacity for AGI, and have just not figured out the correct way to coordinate it. The human brain uses about 20 watts to do its thing, and humanity has gigawatts of computational capacity. Sure, the human brain should be considered to be "special purpose hardware" that dramatically reduces energy requirements for cognition. By a factor of more than 10^9 though? That seems unlikely.
Dan Durston's posts on BPL are the goldmine I usually end up at when searching for technical explanation or classification of a fabric:
https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Abackpackinglight.com+...
>The "6 or so" breakthroughs sounds about right to me. But I don't really see the reason for being optimistic about 2030. It could just as easily be 2050, or 2100, etc.

Well if you read between the lines of the Gato paper there may be no more hurdles left and scale is the only boundary left.

>Not a recognition that we fundamentally still don't know how brains work! (or what intelligence is, etc.)

This is a really bad trope. We don't need to understand the brain to make an intelligence. Does Evolution understand how the brain works? Did we solve the Navier Stokes Equations before building flying planes? No.
were they large ? I'm curious about the amount of money wasted through them :)
This could be a ripe market for disruption. DaaS (dung as a service). YC 2023.
> There is an inverse relationship between the age of a futurist and the amount of time they think it will take for their predictions to become true.

That's not true. The so-called Maes-Garreau law or effect does not replicate in actual surveys, as opposed to a few cherrypicked futurist examples.
How does `ssh -X' work?
> There is an inverse relationship between the age of a futurist and the amount of time they think it will take for their predictions to become true.

I think calling Carmack a Futurist is pretty insulting.
App functionality is generally not covered by copyright. Code yes, some assets/images/etc. sure, look-and-feel maybe, but functionality no.
Ubuntu 22 ships an RDP server by default these days. Haven't tried it myself (my manual attempts at running xrdp way back in Ubuntu 18 broke stuff) but it seems to work quite well. Just open the settings application and enable it. Might not even be Ubuntu-specific, might be available in every GNOME distro?

Personally, I've used stuff like Steam in-home streaming and Parsec for remote desktop access. They're more meant for game streaming but they handle normal applications just fine and they run on pretty much any platform I can think of. As an added bonus, there's something nice about the idea of picking up a cheap second hand Steam Link and using it as a thin client for your PC.

Don't know about macOS, though.
If we could have nice things, I absolutely agree.
And somewhat sadly the dumb apps you shit out over a weekend make more money than the 'serious' apps you can spend months on, because the dumb apps are fun.
Wow, thank you!! We have a lot of optimization work left haha so it's a pleasure to hear it's working smoothly for you! I'll admit I'm a bit surprised ^_^
Additional info: https://twitter.com/FatManTerra/status/1560553570814070784
This sounds like a rebranded auto lease.

$6000 to start and $500 a month sounds like the terms of a car loan. If you just get a car loan for 5 years or whatever, it might even be less. But then the payment goes away! Yes there are maintenance fees, but those can be covered by insurance for vehicles under 100,000 miles. Don't forget modern cars are generally extremely reliable, and anybody can easily google the reliability of a specific model. Unless you're one of the very few Americans living in a dense urban center, you probably should just buy a car instead. And while it loses value considerably once off the lot, at least you have some sort of net worth intact at the end of a few year term.
Anyone can believe anything, but if one is buying products that don't do what they need or want, that seems like a poor use of funds.

Example: I can buy an Xbox and curse Microsoft that I can't play The Last of Us on it, but that's really on me.
Hi, thanks for posting this! Looks really cool.
I recently worked on a multiplayer editor application using WebSockets and it was really fun but definitely very challenging. Many edge cases and scenarios that weren't considered at first had to be covered.
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Also seems to be 16:10 instead of 16:9, and have a different set of ports. Honestly I don't see what those two laptops have in common beyond both being Lenovo.
> With VR, you can get the sight and physical environment you mention

"physical environment" ? VR lets you operate on and get sensory input based on a fairly significantly degraded version of physical reality.
That scaling will eventually hit a wall. What was it about nerds and S-curves?
Wow. To get the advertised lowest monthly fee for a model Y (Still $690/month!) you have to pay a $500 security deposit and a whopping $7900 “start fee”

While the deposit is refundable, the start fee doesn’t appear to be. So in 1yr, your total outlay is $16,680 for a $48,600 car. That’s essentially a 3 year payoff + 500 for deposits, and you don’t end up with a car after.

It’s not immediately clear what the advantage is here, I guess unless you can’t qualify for a regular car loan. But the equity cost here is very high.

They claim a loan on this car at 4.25% would cost 1900/mo, but it’s more like 1300. And Tesla financing is as low as 2.9%, which is 1277/mo if you put 4500 down. Those go to 1203/mo and 1178/mo respectively if you put down 7900.

I dunno. Nothing about this seems like a particularly good deal or good for it’s users. They don’t get the tax credits, they don’t get the equity, they just get a more economical rental. It doesn’t even look like there’s a purchase option in the end like a regular lease.

Maybe I’m being cynical here, and I will admit I have never quite understood the appeal of leasing anyway, but this concept just totally escapes me, and the numbers don’t make a good deal of sense to me either.
> The user has no "right" to "install what they want". Words have meanings.

If I own a gadget, I own it. That means that I _have the right_ to do whatever I want with it, including jailbreaking it, disassembling it, or throwing it from a cliff.

Apple might not like it, and might take punitive action. Void the warranty, maybe even cancel your Apple account. But they can not send me to jail.
IMO, your take in the broader sense is an extremely profound and important point for AGI ethics. While GTA is seemingly extreme, I think that's going to be a problem no matter what simulation space we fabricate for training AGI agents — any simulation environment will encourage various behaviors by the biases encoded by the simulation's selectively enforced rules (because someone has to decide what rules the simulation implements...). An advanced intelligence will take learnings and interpretations of those rules beyond what humans would come up with.

If we can' make an AGI that we feel ok letting run amok in the world after living through a lot of GTA (by somehow being able to rapidly + intelligently reprioritize and adjust rules from multiple simulation/real environments? not sure), we probably shouldn't let that core AGI loose no matter what simulation(s) it was "raised on".
This seems similar to https://on.to/. We used this at my last company to test our smart charging app and it seemed like a good deal. It removed the hassle of having to sort insurance, breakdown cover and servicing. It also included free charging at BP, Shell and Instavolt chargers, which I used on a number of occasions.

They did raise their prices recently, but from my calculation it still seemed like a fair offer and it's something I'd use.
The argument is that every question in your post is a red-herring. That is, humans don't actually function in the way that your questions suggest, even if they have the "experience" of doing so.
Doesn't work at all
I wonder if this has something to do with "zooming" capabilities. Samsung's Galaxies already nail it and are a head and shoulder above the competition (e.g., iPhone). When there's not much room for innovation in an area, create a new need and compete there!
Don't use your phone while you're driving!
The marketing department has never heard of diffractions limits. Not a problem because most consumers haven't either. All they know is "bigger number better"
Recession? What recession? Amazing to see these pre-revenue VC fundings in 10s and 100s of millions (Flow!).
To give it some context a 4K UHD television has about 8 million pixels. Feels like the main purpose of having 200 million pixels is just to have a larger number than the competition.
There are issues with AB5 as it pertains to owner-operators (people who own their truck and drive it).

Before AB5, a carrier company could hire an owner-operator to do some work without them being employees (eg. to handle excess work that their employees could not), but now they cannot, so those carriers are not sending any more business to owner-operators.

The options for owner-operators, who paid a large sum to acquire their truck, are to move out of California, become employees (owner-operators likely don't want that, hence them acquiring their own truck), or stop driving altogether.

Since California is a major port of entry for goods in the USA, having fewer truckers to move those goods leads to logistical issues.
Personally I side with an individuals' right to install whatever they want on a device they purchased. Without that "right to repair" individuals are only renting their devices from a duopoly. Very unsatisfying!
I watched the whole thing. Man spent a lot of breath asserting that an AGI will have broadly the same types of goals that humans do. Said exactly zero words about why we won't just be able to tell the AGI "no, you're not getting what you want", and then turn it off.
It's the sandals
Also bundlers without treeshaking - I personally once delivered 70MB of compressed JS to clients in production
That's a fine perspective to have, but many people feel that a government of elected representatives is a better place for determining and adjusting impacts on people.
Complete with a top-down loading.
Un-paywalled: https://archive.ph/JGLnp
Yeah… I’m a relatively sophisticated consumer, and the state of the Play Store means that if I’m looking for any app to “do a thing” (as opposed to an official app for a company), it’s effectively impossible for me to get that app only via my phone. I have to wait until I’m at a desktop with a big screen and mouse/keyboard where I can efficiently browse through reddit comments and GitHub repositories to figure out what’s worthwhile, what’s junk, and what’s spam.
To be clear, I am absolutely not "too high brow" for such an app. I, personally, wouldn't use it, but like I said I appreciate a 69 joke. But if Apple is going to insist on a curated App Store, then an app like this should not be allowed.
Why? Because he also wrote some game engines?
On mobile it looks like a captcha where you identify buses or stoplights.
How so? It’s not immoral to abstain from creating life (having children, biologically speaking). Am I missing something?
€9 Ticket
The improved screen shots are improved, but not anything I would call impressive
I see that as two separate goals.

One is to build something inteligent (an AGI), and the other is something human like. Intuitively we could hit the AGI goal first and aim for human like after that if we feel like it.

In the past, human like inteligent seemed more approachable for I think mostly emotional reasons, but for our current trajectory if we get anything inteligent we’d still have reach a huge milestone IMO.
> I'd like to make my machine output-only, not promiscuous in this way.

The TV advertises itself on the network so it's the one being promiscuous. Your machine is still being passive, it just shows you the devices that are have advertised themselves.

No idea about the sound thing though, I don't use any Mac stuff :)
I would argue that people have a very intrinsic need for the "doing" mode (setting goals, spending effort achieving them, slowly observing the progress). If we don't get enough of that, we start inventing goals. If we don't manage to find/invent anything worth spending effort, we get depressed and step out of the game, freeing up resources for those who have goals. Brutal efficiency of nature in action.

If you focus on "being" too much, you still end up subconsciously setting goals, but those goals will be very tribal and emotional: get more people to give you attention or acknowledge your feelings, bash those who express opposing views.

I think, what works the best is reserving the "being" to your friends and close circle (that you can pick according to your preferences), and devoting work time to a 100% professional-driven "doing" mode where you focus on common goals and leave everything else outside the office. Sadly, companies don't want people to have lives outside of work anymore, so they are trying to substitute it for "being" at work, creating division out of the blue, and making the work culture toxic.
We used to boot sun360's diskless using bootp to a freebsd 1.5 X server, which would serve our 20" black and white CRT monitors and the chunkiest keyboards ever. Remote desktop? Pah. Fvwm. ehem.
>You also didn’t answer the actual questions posed

> I write my comments for me.

Why would I answer your questions. You said you write your comments for yourself, that means the question is for yourself, not me.
Like most big tech companies I'm sure they find success metrics in every project they do. Especially the ones consumers hate.
There was a post a couple of weeks ago on “second order thinking” from the

http://fs.blog

I think that this post points out an example of where “second order thinking” may be necessary or applicable.
whether or not something is or is not an inconsequential gimmick doesn't have much to do with quality engineering.
It's midnight, so I'm not super keen on watching the whole thing(I'll get back to it this weekend) - but the first 7 minutes sounds like his argument is that if you build a humanoid robot with a stop button, the robot will fight you to prevent you pressing its own stop button if given an AGI? As if the very first instance of AGI is going to be humanoid robots that have physical means of preventing you from pressing their own stop button?

Let me get this straight - this is an actual, real, serious argument that they are making?
Sounds quite dumb a method of firing. Doesn't make you want to invest in this company...
Write the same app but in React Native. All the extra boilerplate it includes will pad the code out a lot, and they'll probably assuming that it must be a legit use case for someone to go to that effort. But resubmit under a different app name. I bet it goes through.