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The author makes a very valid point, and it would be quite interesting to see what kinds of tactile UI designs might be achieved. But I think there's an important distinction to be made in how we build tools to solve physical problems and how we build tools to solve conceptual ones.

Apart from purely remediative technologies such as Braille, I can't think of any technology from any era of human history in which conceptual information has ever been conveyed via the tactile sense. There have never been tactile clocks, tactile books, or any kind of tactile language. When human minds attempt to import ideas from the outside word, they use the eyes and ears, not the hands.

There's certainly a real problem with the UIs presented in the MS video, but it's not that they're visually-oriented. It's that they're designed to appeal to the eyes themselves, and fail to encode information in a way that's optimally suited to the mind. The aesthetics of the UIs in that video are stunningly beautiful, but I have no idea from looking at them how I would use them as tools; each notification, dialog box, and prompt for input seems fine in isolation, but when I try to conceptually 'zoom out' and understand how each function integrates into a workflow that allows me to apply my capabilities toward fulfilling my needs, I'm completely at a loss.

There seems to be an unfortunate trend toward pure visual aesthetics in the software industry today - perhaps a cargo-cult attempt to emulate some of Apple's successes - and MS seems to be suffering from it almost as badly as the Ubuntu and Gnome folks.
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And Americans don't like those jobs - so my Vietnamese neighbors will prosper while my American neighbors will go on the dole and complain about immigration.

America has split in two: the land of opportunity is still there, but now alongside an entitled class of nth generation unwilling to put in the same effort as immigrants to succeed.
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They never said it doesn't have marketing juice, they're just talking about link building i presume. So surely it'd be better to focus on more solid SEO strategies than link building on no-follow sites and hoping that somebody mirrors it somewhere. Do .edu links even have any ranking weight anymore? It's probably one of the most abused link building schemes there is.
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An ad has "Buy this car! Buy this car! Buy this car!"

I deny ads work better when artistic. True, you remember them better. But often I totally miss what the product was, which makes them score Zero on the ad-o-meter. Do you remember the product for those 'artistic' Apple ads? Not good enough to say "some Apple thingy".
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All true; probably all legal.

Microsoft has been doing this for as long as they've been around. Used to work at a hardware vendor (desktop boxes with a proprietary OS). We paid $12 to Microsoft for every box shipped, because they had Intel processors and might conceivably one-day run Excel (called Multiplan back then).
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Same here, I spent a long time looking for and failing to find a microwave with a knob.

I wanted two knobs - power and time, and a start button.

Instead I found myriad devices intent on offering me a plethora of buttons designed to 'defrost a medium size chicken and one potato'.

Sigh.
I wonder what will happen to Microsoft Smooth Streaming if this happens.
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The politicians pushing the RIAA's agenda are more or less the same people pushing things like the Patriot Act (Joe Biden, Orrin Hatch, etc). To me, they all look like different symptoms of the same problem.
Am I alone in finding the following quote profoundly depressing: "It cost Patrick $8.95 to buy [halloweengiftcards], $100 for a writer to make 5 pages of content, and he made thousands in sales."

Ditto "If you’re a productivity app, write a page for “increases productivity in Healthcare”, another for “increases productivity in Education”, “lowers cost in Healthcare”, and so on."

This kind of seo-engineering just seems so desparate, as if SEO is the be-all and end-all of running an online business.

Whatever happened to having a site that obeys all the normal 'rules', and provides valuable information / services / products to your target audience. They'll find it.
I'm sure it's a useful tool, but if it keeps stats, then it's definitely not analogous to /dev/null!
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"""When someone says design matters, it means having a pleasant design"""

'Pleasant' to who? Myspace's design is/was pleasant to teenagers, for example. So surely design is tied closely to the audience. If the goal is, let's say, making money, and the site has been A/B tested extensively and this 'design' makes the most money from its audience, then it's presumably the best design. There are so many anomalously successful website designs that ye can't just say it's about 'pleasantness', unless your audience are graphic designers.
The courts aren't exactly doing a stellar job of watching out for the interests of individuals, either.
I refuse to kowtow also but rarely get into hot water. I'm curious what you're saying to these people. :-)

If someone does try to assert their superiority (I'm trying to think of an example, but am having a hard time) then I tend to appeal to their humanity and ask them to chill the fuck out.

(I don't know of a pecking order on HN. AFAIK you're all my equals. Even PG. He has more money than me, and has more relationships than me, is older as wiser than me, but I don't see him in any way to be my social superior.)
Is the current 404 a demonstration of how AWESOME the error pages are?
You can do what you wish, but be aware that when you say it, maybe YOU mean "very" or "awesome", but your listeners may hear something different. To me, the combination of a word that means sexual intercourse with a forceful tone of voice has a very unpleasant connotation of rape.

I can't keep you from saying it, but neither can you prevent that image from appearing in my mind when you say it. You're making a decision that a particular word choice is worth offending people.

In fact, I'd argue that you're choosing TO offend people. "Fuck" is an arbitrary syllable; you could just as easily say any other word. So your statement that "it's neutral" is not credible to me. If everyone DID get off their "high horse", if "fuck" became an everyday word on cereal boxes and in kindergarten classes, I bet you'd find a new word that sounded harsher, because it would no longer serve your purpose.

I'm not telling you what words to use, but I think your statement to "get off your high horse" is dishonest. You can't deliberately offend people and simultaneously ask them to stop being offended.
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entirely stagnant

I totally agree. As an API user, their version 2 API had been in beta mode for as long as I could remember. I guess in anticipation of this IPO, they finally removed the beta labels. The API is not very powerful either. ( Reference: http://www.yelp.com/developers/getting_started/api_overview )

As an aside, the thing that always puzzled me about their API TOS is that you are not allowed to cache the review data. It seems like that requirement was decided on many years ago before we all started using things like Varnish Cache. Why would a data supplier demand that you hit their API for every request, including duplicate ones within a short time frame? What a waste.
>They probably gave it a good shot, but couldn't get it anywhere near lean enough. Flash turns laptops into battery-powered space heaters; on a mobile device it's just a non-starter.

I gotta call BS on that. I've personally played hundreds if not thousands of flash games on an under-powered $500 laptop purchased in 2009. The article itself mentioned the success of flash on Blackberry devices, due largely to the fact that they cooperated with Adobe's engineers instead of freezing them out.
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Is that 'second order impact' not tied to the public doing the link building for you, outside of twitter? E.g. blogs, reddit, etc, rather than Google actually putting ranking weight onto info in tweets?
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they should have probably made this decision before starting the first release!
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This is something Google are surely working on, or, i hope they are. As much as the topic of SEO fascinates me, when it's successful it can be so deleterious to the quality of results. Google search is practically useless, for many searches that i'd do which i'd imagine are common enough.
This is pretty old, but still cool.
Good riddance.

And once again, all the companies that decided to rely on a proprietary, non standard technology are going to get bitten.
Is this not a bias? As in: It only looks like Google discriminates for the Big Three, because they are so abundant?

I've heard from official sources like below that Google doesn't discriminate on TLD. There are my sites and Googlers who use ".info" TLD in a legit and well-ranking manner.

Where this "evidence" does play a role, is in spam/made for Adwords-sites. It is reasonable to assume that a .co or .ly will get more attention, to combat spam/made for Adwords sites that try to use Keyword-In-Domain tricks to outrank legit companies.

But if you are not making Keyword-In-Domain Made-For-Adwords sites, you have nothing to worry about (at least as for Google discrimination).

It is mostly _users_ who discriminate for a .com. If Google ranks website.ly in the top 5, but its users don't click on the result, in fear of spam or low-quality, then your rankings might suffer.

Matt Cutts interview on DomainRoundtable.

"For example, do .com domains carry more weight than a
.net, .us, .info, etc.

He said that TLD doesn’t matter -- that’s the way Larry
and Sergey originally designed the Google algorithm. The
algorithm doesn’t care where the page is located, it’s
all about pagerank (LINKS) of the particular page. At the
end of answering this question he did admit that they
might have started to look at particularly cheap (and
spammy) TLDs differently than other TLDs or they might
start considering TLD in their algorithm if they’re not
already doing so."

So it is still good to advice against .io and witty domain names (portfol.io), but not for the reason of Google discrimination.

I am reminded by statements like: "For better ranking, claim your domain for 5+ years". Just because Google gives extra attention to domains with a low expiration date, because they correlate with spammy/get-rich-quick sites, doesn't mean that spam on a 5+ years registered domain is ok, or that simply claiming a domain for 10 years, somehow signals quality to Google.

You only have to worry about registration dates, when you know that you deliver low-quality content and you don't want to be found out soon.
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I wonder why isn't W3C / Google / whoever doing more to bring / standardize proper video streaming support to HTML5.
I mean the HTTP progressive download support e.g. in Chrome is almost like streaming, but it's not the same.
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Well - those were just quick reactions I had to the video. But, I think if I could now somehow set my own childhood educational curriculum, I don't think long division would be on it.

I don't think I know how to do long division, at the moment. I certainly haven't done it in very many years. I suspect very few people ever do it. Computers even follow different algorithms.

I would definitely agree that learning simple algorithms is important for future development.
But why division? It'd be good to show kids an example, to let them see how its possible. But I wouldnt make them practice it, to internalise it.

I'd put something like 'binary search' on the general curriculum, instead of long division. I see a future where many more people are going to have to manipulate information, all the time, and I think teaching things like simple programming concepts to the general population, is probably more valuable than teaching simple arithmetic rules.

I don't know what way data manipulation technology will pan out - but I'd hope that in future, we can come up with better things to have children internalise, than simple arithmetic algorithms.
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I thought what I quoted was about ACM/IEEE. $198 per year (less than that for students) to the ACM gets you unlimited access to their online archives. I didn't check the IEEE rate, as I rarely encounter a paper I have to get from them instead of from ACM -- is it much more? What am I missing out on by not checking Elsevier's stash?
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Cool experiment but I actually found his about page a lot more interesting and, perhaps, HN-appropriate: http://www.ndoherty.com/about/
I think those are different. I say "y'all" because I grew up in the southern US, and we recognize the need for a proper second-person plural here. Not everybody likes that word, but I'm not saying it in order to annoy them.

On the other hand, the very thing that DEFINES a swear word is that everyone knows that it's offensive. To choose a word BECAUSE it's offensive, then demand that people not be offended by it, is silly.
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SO AGAIN - WHY is HN so damn crawling slow?
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The amazingly high quality of your content will be irrelevant if the keyword density on your page is one that Google deems to be low quality.

"""If you’re a productivity app, write a page for
“increases productivity in Healthcare”, another for “increases productivity in
Education”, “lowers cost in Healthcare”, and so on."""

^ That type of thing is pretty risky if it's one of your big strategies..
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I think he was more pointing the finger at HN in general.
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Does Google still give weight to the .edu domain? It'd surely be unhelpful to proper meritorious rankings seeing as it's one of the first strategies SEOers will use?
My eyes are bleeding. Give me some contrast on the text also. It's like trying to read something written on the sun!
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@tome, sure but stats are very useful as a practical tool.
@charliesome, one use case of this, is to deploy it (lets say on ec2), on lets say webnull.myhost.com, and point any webservice / client you wish to its http visible domain. You gain a handy tool that fakes http reliably, readily-deployed for any experiment.
The problem is, what is high quality content? That is never defined. I talked to SEO who though he had a great writer because it flowed so well. But the articles were all fluff. We really should define what great content is, because I think there are many different ideas about this.
The guy that picks her up at the airport, appears to be a professional driver. He has a black cap, and he nods deferentially, before turning around to apparently open the door or trunk for her.

I'd have thought that in a 'Productivity Future Video' you'd have the car driven by computer, given that we seem to be on the cusp of that technology, already.

I'd have thought she say to her device that she wanted a car from the airport to her hotel, and it would have done the rest.

This would clearly be more productive, as we wouldn't be wasting the labour of the man who drives the car.

You are right that its possible that he wants to be a driver for people, out of some individual preference, in which case this is essentially a leisure activity for him. But I'd leave people that do unnecessary work, because of a personal preference, out of a 'future productivity video'.

I can't help but wonder if the reason the cars don't drive themselves is because its a Microsoft video, and Google who have gotten a lot of PR out of driverless cars, are a competitor.
Fantastic article - thanks for writing this - it is exactly how I feel about UI and the dissapointment that generally follows anything these days that is claimed to be "innovative".
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Another option is that they understand it but believe it is a concept that has bad effects if followed.
Apologies for veering off topic a bit...

Does have experience with the CORS "partial support" in IE?

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-Origin_Resource_Sharing]
A bad implementation of quicksort has O(n^2) worst case, and that's not really a fair comparison. I'm not defending quicksort, just pointing out that a fair comparison should keep in mind that we can easily select better pivots to achieve best-, average-, and worst-case complexity of O(n log n) for quicksort.

Comparing sort algorithms like this shows that we really care about more than just time complexity. We care about memory used or swapped down to the byte, quirks on popular processors, and expected run times on real-world data.
I do not think it is unreasonable for law enforcement agencies to designate, during the course of an actual investigation of a specific target, individual cars for GPS surveillance...

Okay, so why not require a warrant for clear-cut cases like you suggest here? There's a legal mechanism, a historical precedent, a best-practice way of handling this sort of privacy intrusion. What is the compelling reason for throwing all that away?

I'm not generally opposed to things that allow law enforcement to do a better job with fewer resources.

Do you honestly imagine that a police department that adopts warrant-less GPS trackers will lay off some of the force it no longer needs for stakeouts and surveillance?

I don't.

This is a more efficient way of doing surveillance, but it isn't something that will be used to "do a better job with fewer resources." It will be used - it is being used - to cast a wider net, to launch larger fishing expeditions, just like every single piece of surveillance technology and surveillance-related legislation in living memory.
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They are talking about Twitter having no link juice.

With my post I tried to show that Twitter has both SEO (indexation, ranking, discovery) and marketing value (visitors, network, following).

Using Twitter is so-so SEO strategy. But it is an invaluable online marketing strategy.

Just dumping your links on Twitter and calling that link building is silly, and he is right to shoot that down. But using Twitter a little more intelligently, would have you connecting with other webmasters and linkerati: People who can add (Twitter) links to their sites, for example when they blog about the topic of your tweet, or submit it to Hacker News.

There are valid reasons to ditch Twitter: if your produce content just for ranking, instead of your users, and you lack a brand, because you have a keyword-in-domain.net, then Twitter will be very ineffective. No one wants to follow or engage with a non-brand, with highly optimized content.

If you have a brand and produce interesting content, you'll shoot yourself in the foot, if you ignore Twitter.

>> Do .edu links have any ranking weight anymore?

I don't know, I am unable to measure their value (lack control groups with the exact same linking profiles)

There is good reason to believe there is something like "proximity to authority". Taking a seed set of quality websites (Stack overflow, Wikipedia, a lot of .edu domains) you can calculate the distance/similarity of your site to this seed set and measure your own quality and authority.

If this is a solid measure, then the .edu TLD alone might not give a free pass. It matters if the .edu is deemed authoritative or not and to what degree. A link from cnn.com can be more authoritative, relevant, contextual and so provide more ranking weight, than a link from a random university student page that happens to end in ".edu".

A nofollow link always caries mention-value. For a smart search engine just a relevant mention of, for example "SEOmoz", could attribute a vote to http://seomoz.org . Also an added benefit of mentions is the increased "search results estimate" for your brand or product. Some people give more trust to companies that have more results in the index, especially when comparing companies.