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"No viable successful open source mobile OS gives equal access to public and OEM partners to a private tree"

This is a true statement but you've set the bar pretty low there with 4 qualifiers.
To be fair, monadic code does not necessarily have side effects. It's just a useful way of thinking about computational steps. `Maybe` is a monad that is completely pure and has no side effects: http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/libraries/base/s...

I understand that this article is geared towards beginners, so this is probably just a simplification on the author's part. Other than that it's a great article.
Really? I haven't left Chicago for the last year and the event is scheduled for the one day I go out of town. Talk about bad luck.
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Whoa, as a python guy, this makes me not want to learn Haskell at all. The syntax seems as bad a Perl.
I've heard so many complaints from developers about the delayed source release, however I've never known Google to withhold source code for Android.

Could the slight delay in release simply be due to legal issues such as scrubbing patent issues and verification that OSS code isn't infringing?
This sounds like something I want to use. Some impressions:

The first thing I did was edit my profile, but I found that it doesn't give me enough feedback about errors. I tried changing everything all at once(of course) and then got greeted with the previous defaults. It took some trial and error to figure out that it wasn't accepting the RGBA PNG I had picked out for a profile picture. I'd also like a direct link to the markdown formatting docs, or even just a quick summary, on the profile editing screen.

My profile finished, I proceeded to look in my Dropbox folder. The README is not formatted for Windows Notepad and appears as one long line of text. I switched to NP++ and continued to write a "hello.txt" containing a link and an image. It shows up, so I go back and edit the README, too. Everything is in order, but what is this "cloud+arrow" button? Inspecting it reveals it's publishing, but I don't feel confident about whether I've published hello.txt until I log out and check.

I might continue using this. Some last thoughts:

I will probably want options to organize posts. There isn't enough documentation to know if I already have them.

I found myself wondering if there was a shortcut for marking up the image that would let me point to a folder inside Dropbox without tabbing out to find the public link.

I may not want the displayed title of README to be README.
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> human society normally creates conditions when such a decision can be a rational well-thought off one.

So you are dismissing the idea that Ilya was depressed. Yet, claim that there was terrible suffering and hell going on. Ok, I don't know what was happening in this life, but I will just guess that it is highly unlikely that famine, torture, physical, sexual or moral abuse was taking place, at least the kind were most people would agree that suicide was an obvious rational choice.

There is nothing shameful, imaginary, or about depression. Just like there is nothing shameful or imaginary about getting the flu.
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I agree with most of what you said. I'm not a designer nor a developer, and had to hack this together in the last few days since, as I'm sure you're aware, the startup hiring market is red hot and am already getting a few offers. This was all meant to be temporary, an MVP if you will.

Unfortunately, it had to go up today and ran out of time to handle these "devil details". There are reasons for some of this, but I did want to thank you for your candid response! :)
It's not actually syntax. The language allows you to define infix operators, and they're just functions like any other with full documentation searchable on hoogle: http://www.haskell.org/hoogle/
Google seems to be trying to position itself as the Microsoft of the post-PC world. I doubt ChromeOS, as an operating system designed for the now-defunct netbook, plays much of a role in that strategy.
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Trust me, it's better. Perl achieves conciseness by using global metavariables (e.g. $_, $/, etc.) which are silently updated by functions and that you have to keep track of. Everything here is explicit; there are just lots of symbols...
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Unrelated to the article.

You want this: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=40.458148,93.393145
I see so, "cracking" is admired here. "hacking" condemned.

Got it! :)
I felt this way a decade ago when my wife and I rented Season 1 of the show 24. I never enjoyed it, but felt strangely compelled to find out what happened in the next episode, and would stay up too late watching. After one season I decided that was enough of that addiction.
my heart goes out to you and all of his family and friends
I find it appalling that much of his notability is the fact he committed suicide.
You have started this discussion on the argument that "we create hell on earth for other people" which is about as unfounded as Cushman jumping to the conclusion that it was depression that caused this suicide, before the facts are in.

As it stands, you both have about the same amount of rationality in your argument while Cushman certainly has the numbers on his side - Mental Illness certainly is the leading cause of suicide:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide#Risk_factors

"Clinical studies have shown that underlying mental disorders are present in 87% to 98% of suicides"

So I think Cushman is right - there is no use for your argument in this discussion and all that stands is a misunderstanding about your choice of words on "imaginary" (which I understood the same way that Cushman did - you clearly didn't choose your words wisely there and were bound to be misunderstood).
I didn't say the comment had to be describing the code in terms of what it was doing, but it absolutely should describe why something was done. If that "why" changes, then the comments should be updated.

This isn't double documentation -- it's complementary documentation. Code is the what, comments are the why. If one does not match the other, then again, that's on the programmer.
Thanks for the reply. Using the keywords like "custom ROM", "rooting" you mentioned in your reply I am also able to google for more.
I chuckled at the snarky Microsoft comment "I can see where Google photoshopped out the strings..."

It is interesting to live in the times where the world is grappling with something our grandchildren may see as obvious. On the one hand we have "Intellectual Property Interests" who are trying to extract every penny out of their "assets" while on the other hand we have the rest of us who are more and more irritated at being squeezed. The tension in key legislators between the folks who vote for them and the folks who pay for their elections is almost palpable.

Google, being bushwhacked by these people, is nicely not taking that sitting down. Its nice to see, but so far it has been like watching a court room lawyer and a bright high school student debate what is 'right' and 'wrong.' Fortunately they are a well funded high school student and they generally learn from their mistakes.

As the music labels die off, we can watch them to understand how it might go for others in their shoes, I am sure the book publishers are paying close attention. Your grandkids will read about this time in history and economics text books that is for sure.
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If you zoom in, you can see it's not a single structure or building. Most of the area (all the blue parts) is some kind of liquid, probably water. Zoom in far enough and you can see buildings on the edges of the pools.

Follow the little blue line upwards from the structure and you'll see a dam clearly pumping water, and the canals extend up to around 50km.

The Map View also shows a large area around it as a huge lake, so I'm guessing they drained the lake. Still pretty impressive in my opinion.
or being too optimistic, or relying on bad advice.
This connects well with the principle "Think big, act small, fail fast; learn rapidly." Idealism/perfectionism does seem to be contrary to progress because it keeps us from acting.
I was taken aback by support for 'JOIN' but this comment makes me less excited about the service.
Take a look at what happened to intangible assets across periods of severe stress, such as the Great Depression or the tech collapse of 2000. The intangible values drop substantially, which should lead you to believe that intangibles are more a function of money supply than anything intrinsic. And since we are coming off of one of the largest money supply expansions in history, it should automatically ring warning bells for events that contract money supply, which is why I mention Greece and Italy.

Ultimately, all asset valuations should be in equilibrium with each other. House prices went out of equilibrium with rents, and eventually that corrected (and still has a way to go.) That is an example of a very close equilibrium.

If Hennessy started rivaling Exxon (say) in valuation, I would say that I don't care what kind of brand recognition it has, it is out of equilibrium and is just waiting for some event (like contraction of the money supply) to re-equilibrate.

> which actually states that we are NOT in a bubble.

BTW, I was disagreeing with the article. I would encourage all to make hay while the sun shines, because these valuations are not going to last.
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Hi Trindaz,

There's a tool being built that will look to solve part, if not all of your problems mentioned above:

http://practiceignition.com

A dashboard system is one of the key components, connecting up your management tools in one place for you to gain an overview of your metrics.

If you're keen to find out more email guy@practiceignition.com
>So you are dismissing the idea that Ilya was depressed.

no, i'm dismissing the idea that suicide necessarily means a mental illness.
If Alanis Morissette read PG's essays on time management and knew he also built HN, she'd probably write more meaningful song lyrics.
There are many positive activities that can be both productive and fun, including a card game with friends. In that case, you are investing in to those relationships and fulfilling a very basic human desire for socialization.

It's not that you're not getting anything done. You're just getting different things done. Compare that to a day in front of the TV. Can you say you've gotten anything out of it? Did you learn anything? Were you able to relieve stress or relax? Perhaps in small quantities TV can provide those benefits, but would trading your entire day be worth it?

Now to take your card playing to an extreme, would it be beneficial for someone like the president to spend an entire day playing cards with non-political friends? Sure the president needs a vacation every once in a while, but assume that this is not a vacation day. There are many more important things that should be done, and even with the relaxation and socialization benefits that card playing with friends has, I believe the president's "wasting time" alarm would go off. There are elections to win and speeches to give. But what about spending an entire day reviewing a minor bill? Sure, bills are important. After all, the president should know about what new laws are being considered. Even so, an entire day could go by without the president thinking "this is a waste of time". After all, he's not playing. He's working.
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What's interesting is that he could have cashed out after Twitter and led an incredibly entertaining and enjoyable life, but still chooses to push on further for more success, more challenges, etc to the extent that such a huge portion of his waking life is taken by "work" like this.

I could understand it (and put in a lot of hours myself) driving to get that first home run, but less so afterwards. I'd struggle to sit idle and travelling non-stop isn't the holiday everyone thinks it is, but my dream lifestyle definitely wouldn't involve 16 hour days once I had the means to pursue all my interests to a desired extent.
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I'm guessing he's referring to the "repo" tool mentioned above.
You can do that already, as long as you don't mind using your antiquated fingers to do so. Alfred[1] is my personal favorite, but Quicksilver[2] will do the job too (and is free).

[1] http://www.alfredapp.com/

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His work is his life and they are closely intertwined. This is great... IMO.

In the case of Square, they've been very quick to fire anyone who isn't putting 80+% percent of their life into Square -- often with little warning or reason.

What does this mean practically - that employees are expected to put 134 hours a week into working at Square? Or does sleep time not count against them, meaning they are expected to work only 89.6 hours a week? How many hours of sleep each night does Square recommend their employees get?
That Tchaikovsky recording was like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. I'm okay with the composition itself, but the recording was horribly distorted. I much prefer the electronic music, or this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQQGi4gN6gI
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You reminded me of one of the few Ayn Rand quotes I actually like. "The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws."
It's cute that people still get worked up about stuff like this, as though they're honestly surprised that legislators are bought and sold.

Here's the thing: the system is broken, and it impossible to fix. It will fail, though, and that's when there's an opportunity to replace it with something better (or, something far far worse).
That's because this is a very rough, "top-down" description of the language. If, instead of trying to think of Haskell as an inferior Python--which it definitely isn't--you learned it from fundamentals up, all of the syntax would make much more sense.

It's like math: if you just saw something like a triple integral over a weird region with little fiddly symbols everywhere, it wouldn't make sense. If you learned about them starting with the basics, the logic would be clear and elegant.

The other thing is that all the "do" stuff and 'fish operators" are actually really clever and really high-level abstractions--they are basically a unified language for describing all sorts of computations, not just ones with side effects. For just reading most code, this isn't important; for understanding the elegance of Haskell, it is.
I disagree. I've found it useful for a list of buzzwords that I can later look up as keywords. Plus, the organisations using it proves that there tends to be merit. You also provided keywords too though.

Also, I saw some posts that talk about bottlenecks as they scale up. You can't really get this from looking at software documentation unless they really emphasise it.
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I've written this note in another topic on this tragic event, my apologies for the repost, but I think it's important that taboo subjects like depression are discussed. Even if this turns out to not be depression in this particular case, it certainly is extremely common amongst people in tech (sitting in front of your screen, alone, for a long time really doesn't help). It helped me a lot, personally, to reach out and see just how many people went through something similar and I hope that what I wrote might in turn help out others. So here goes the repost:

--- --- --- ---

I wrote about depression a while ago - http://sk.or.at/elou9l - maybe you will find words that help you in my post.

Always remember: You only fail in things that you do, not in who you are.
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No number is made explicit -- they can't really be demanding more than 40 hours / week for exempt employees in California. You're expected to "find your own work/life balance", but there is strong social pressure to stay in the office nights and weekends.

I would expect to work 70 - 80+ weeks there if you're really into it (and checking in / working at home in the evenings and mornings).
>"How is it the the license for a handful of patents is equivalent to the license for an entire operating system that incorporates a lot more than just those patents?"

Because your question requires an understanding of the ways markets equilibrate, perhaps the Market Economics Fairy can provide an appropriate answer regarding the way in which the market establishes the exchange value of mobile operating systems based on supply and demand.
Just another way for MG to place Apple on a pedestal.

Look, it does make sense that when my mother goes to buy a computer, she can be confident in knowing what she's getting, without having to understand gigabytes, megahertz and cores. I get that.

But the first thing I did after clicking on the link to buy my Macbook Air? Spec'd it out the way I wanted. It's not transparent, and people like "specs". i7, 256 GB HD. It's the same reason I know the fuel mileage, tire size and horsepower of my car.

How can anyone take this guy seriously when he says things like:

"My MacBook Air doesn’t have the specs of a brand new HP PC laptop — but it still feels faster."
And look how well that turned out for Nokia.

Oh, wait...
No obvious parking, otherwise could be employee accommodation of some sort. Hard to tell how narrow those spines are. I'm guessing four storeys tall?
Yes, I've always thought of Monads as a programmatic way to "compose" computations, or, a "programmable semi-colon."
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Interesting point, especially considering Google specifically said the source would not be available until the Galaxy Nexus was out.

>year's backlog

This is inaccurate, they have been releasing patches and updates for other versions of the platform over the last year.

They did skip Honeycomb, which fits your Amazon theory, mind you, from the reviews I have read the Fire would not benefit greatly from ICS as they Frankensteined the Android experience.
Anyone with Wireshark or tcpdump could have already seen what IP address the Siri client communicates with it.

Any competitor's jealous of Siri aren't learning too much to find out that the client uses HTTP, compression, and binary payloads in what it sends over the wire to the Siri service - the magic is server-side. The client has to communicate with the service somehow.
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For me, one of the biggest obstacles to understanding lots of Haskell code is opaque infix operators.
Same story for me as far as MMORPG's, Farmville and similar go. I get super addicted for a week and play probably 8 hours a day, then I just get bored. The whole thing is vaguely addicting, but ultimately completely uninteresting.

If I'm going to watch a character level up I'd much rather hit the gym. The increasing weights you can lift offer a nice chance for some nerdy analysis while you're also actually doing something useful.
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CR has plenty of influence over what sells to its target market. If this weren't so, it would be impossible for them to turn a profit. The author is claiming that CR is irrelevant and out of touch, and "demonstrates" his point using a market that CR doesn't even cater to.

You might as well argue that Techcrunch is irrelevant because it doesn't cover the latest in housing and furniture.
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Then spammers would upvote their own sites and outnumber any normal user. And competitors would downvote each other generously.
I'll pass it on to JBQ and Shawn among the people who did the actual work :-)
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Your theory about the genesis of suicidal ideation is not based in fact. Read "Suicide as Escape From Self".
There aren't that many of them in the Prelude and common libraries.

Besides the standard arithmetic ones, only ones I can think of are the "fish" operators, composition dot, and a few arrows.

Did you try to learn what they mean, or did you give up earlier than that?
If you can give details about those 3 and their reasons, perhaps you have a slight chance of convincing others that people have valid reasons for suicide other than depression. But EVERY case I've ever heard/seen (and maybe my sample is too small to be reflective of reality) points to depression as the leading and possibly only cause. There may have been root causes of that depression that were hell on earth, but the "but for" test still says depression was the direct cause of suicide in every case I've ever seen/read about/etc.

While I don't know any personally, I know people who know others who had living hell (eg. rape by father, impregnated, abortion). Those people got support, were able to fight back, and regained their lives. What made them different from others was the depression factor, and it's easy to conclude that the support others gave to help them stand up again prevented depression from taking hold.

You're making a very difficult-to-believe claim (for me for sure, and probably for others, given your downvotes) that depression had no factors in those 3 suicides, and an additional difficult-to-believe claim that it's not reasonable to conclude that depression is a leading factor in suicide in general.

Some details would be appreciated if you're going to make such difficult-to-believe claims.

edit: And if you would make the clarification again that you never claimed that depression wasn't a leading cause, just that it's not necessarily a factor, I don't see how that's a profitable statement. People have to make decisions and judgments all the time with incomplete information. Until the picture is 100% known here, it is logical to conclude what the numbers say: depression was a factor, if not the leading factor.
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You have a misunderstanding of the causes of suicide. Read "Suicide as Escape From Self".
> But Haskell programmers are allergic to extra variables.

Point-free style, best style. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3233870
'A reasonable argument would be that the first time I went to Facebook, I wanted to search for a friend, so I put in HIS first name and last name, created an account, and now I am stuck with it.

Unfortunately, Facebook's very own terms restrict me from correcting this error (due to their lack of clarity and inconsistencies on the home page), as the terms say "You will not create more than one personal profile."'

Lest you think this is just a hypothetical, consider the prosecution of Lori Drew for creating a fake profile on Myspace.

The problem, as Prof. Kerr has repeatedly pointed out in his blog (over at http://www.volokh.com) is that if you have a law which can be argued to criminalize what most people do, then we move from a government of laws to a government of prosecutors. It was on this basis that he put time into defending Lori Drew, arguing that the US Constitution did not permit this prosecution because it was a violation of due process.

His work was largely instrumental in getting the misdemeanor convictions thrown out.
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